NairobiWalker:


Nairobi is a planned city. Slums take up 6% of the total land while good housing takes the rest. Nigerian cities seem all effd up with slums taking up as high as 90% of the total area. See Majengo slum below that your friends keep talking about and compare it with 'normal' housing in Ibadan and Abeokuta. No difference. The only difference is 90% of Ibadan looks like that while only 6% of Nairobi looks like that.

First photo Majengo
Second photo Ibadan

Holly This is a very ridiculous statement!
How did you know that 90% of Ibadan looks like this? What are your proofs?
The only full blown slum in Nigeria is Makoko, no matter how hard you try dude. lol

Hati13:

Is most of the farming you do through traditional or modern way?

You guys are very tall. There are also very tall people in Ethiopia like the Gambelas and Somalias. I'm sure I'm talking to a 2 meter friend right now.

Hahahaha I am not that tall. But Nilotes are very tall, I am sure you see how tall the south Sudanese people are. Maasai, Kalenjin, Luos are very tall. I am sure you see Nilotes a lote, races-Kalenjin, Football - Luos and Maasais are very popular around the world. The Bantus however are not that tall, you rarely get to see them a lot, they don,t participate in Sports a lot. We are in the same AFCON qualifiers group, we will play vs you in Ethiopia, you will see how tall some Kenyans are
Most of Kenyan farming is not traditional, it is modern. Most of things in Kenya are very modern btw. We are quite developed for an African country. Like we buy our milk from the shops and supermarkets, coz it is bought from the farmers and then processed and packed. You should visit Kenya some day

NairobiWalker:


Nairobi is a planned city. Slums take up 6% of the total land while good housing takes the rest. Nigerian cities seem all effd up with slums taking up as high as 90% of the total area. See Majengo slum below that your friends keep talking about and compare it with 'normal' housing in Ibadan and Abeokuta. No difference. The only difference is 90% of Ibadan looks like that while only 6% of Nairobi looks like that.

First photo Majengo
Second photo Ibadan

You can see that no matter how terrible those Ibadan houses look, they are appartment-styled houses which were laid with a foundation n design. There are just very old houses.
Kenyan slums were built to be slums from the onset.
Most of Kenyan slums r built with iron roofing sheet, metal scraps, no design, no plan, no foundation, no nothing.

Holly! Can u compare those Ibadan poor n ugliest areas with these pictures of Mathare below?

***Even a blind person can see the difference***

genieluv:


You can see that no matter how terrible those Ibadan houses look, they are appartment-styled houses which were laid with a foundation n design. There are just very old houses.
Kenyan slums were built to be slums from the onset.
Most of Kenyan slums r built with iron roofing sheet, metal scraps e.t.c

Holly! Can u compare those Ibadan poor n ugliest areas with these pictures of Mathare below?

***Even a blind person can see the difference***

The poor are poor. So no need to compare that. We should focus on improving their lives

More Blankets and wine

That is part of Nairobi, and the area circled is Kibera. Not as big as some guys here potray it to be

More of this

genieluv:


Holly This is a very ridiculous statement!
How did you know that 90% of Ibadan looks like this? What are your proofs?
The only full blown slum in Nigeria is Makoko, no matter how hard you try dude. lol

why are u disturbing urself with this johnnie walker?...............
someone that does not even know what a slum really mean.

PissedYagami:
That is part of Nairobi, and the area circled is Kibera. Not as big as some guys here potray it to be

as much as you want educate them they dont wanna know..for them its good if Kibera is 90 % Nairobi..tell them Nai is growing an growing very fast..

mtis:
More Blankets and wine

Funny how I have never seen Indians and whites mix at any event

mtis:

as much as you want educate them they dont wanna know..for them its good if Kibera is 90 % Nairobi..tell them Nai is growing an growing very fast..

And how can millions of people fit in that small part of the city? I wonder

PissedYagami:

Funny how I have never seen Indians and whites mix at any event

Actually Indians are cool guys if know them..PissedYagami i believe ya from that culture

NairobiWalker:


Those are the nicer places in Ibadan and are just as good as the nicer places of Mathare and Kibera.
Mathare

***Stop being mischievious! How can you juxtapose Ibadan n Mathare/kibera?
If i show u the modern parts of Ibadan, the first sky scrapper in Africa was built in Ibadan. Ibadan is the largest city in west Africa or even the entire Africa if am not mistaken. So, a very large part of it is modern.

~~~There r old sections of other african cities (north africa especially) that look as terrible as the old sections of Ibadan. They can never be classified as slums, cos they were never built as slums n were very beautiful in the times of their prime.
I can show you pictures of these old Ibadan houses many decades ago in their prime n you will be wowed. Can you show me beautiful pictures of Mathare or Kibera in their prime?

>>>>>Those new mass housing u are showing me in Kibera are govnmt built apparently to upgrade the place buh i heard that it has failed as some slum dwellers sell their given modern appartments n return back to the slums, n compared to the population of kenyan slums, i consider those buildings a joke. (although i still say to the govnmt kudos, at least for making an effort).

PissedYagami:

And how can millions of people fit in that small part of the city? I wonder

I really donno d population of Kibera buh slums r irregular settlements which happen to be very densely populated. So it's very common for slums to be highly populated compared to their smaller sizes.

mtis:

Actually Indians are cool guys if know them..PissedYagami i believe ya from that culture

I am man.

genieluv:


I really donno d population of Kibera buh slums r irregular settlements which happen to be very densely populated. So it's very common for slums to be highly populated compared to their smaller sizes.

NGOs exaggerate those figures so that they can get more funding. Kibera had a population of 170k during 2009 census. Probably 300k now at worst.

PissedYagami:

That is just a small % of the foreigners. How likely are you to see a Chinese man on the street wearing Nigerian clothes?

Holly Even most Nigerians do not wear the bogus cultural attires walking on the streets. We wear them to social/formal gatherings alone mostly.
We haven't also promoted these attires as such to foreigners. We r gradually doing that

genieluv:


***Stop being mischievious! How can you juxtapose Ibadan n Mathare/kibera?
If i show u the modern parts of Ibadan, the first sky scrapper in Africa was built in Ibadan. Ibadan is the largest city in west Africa or even the entire Africa if am not mistaken. So, a very large part of it is modern.

~~~There r old sections of other african cities (north africa especially) that look as terrible as the old sections of Ibadan. They can never be classified as slums, cos they were never built as slums n were very beautiful in the times of their prime.
I can show you pictures of these old Ibadan houses many decades ago in their prime n you will be wowed. Can you show me beautiful pictures of Mathare or Kibera in their prime?

>>>>>Those new mass housing u are showing me in Kibera are govnmt built apparently to upgrade the place buh i heard that it has failed as some slum dwellers sell their given modern appartments n return back to the slums, n compared to the population of kenyan slums, i consider those buildings a joke. (although i still say to the govnmt kudos, at least for making an effort).

How is it a joke for the govt upgrade kibera..you sound like a director of an NGO somewhere in Africa..an please Kibera is reducing in size due to upgrading an very soon there will be no space for cons to go back

PissedYagami:

I am man.

Awesome man

ArtanK:


I'm lucky enough to lay claim on three countries. I was born and raised in Germany, but I'm the son of a Djiboutian Somali and a Somali national. Hope that answers your question.

The name 'Somalia' was synonymous with fear.It used to depress me as a boy especially with the bloody legends of men like Farah Aidid.

mtis:

How is it a joke for the govt upgrade kibera..you sound like a director of an NGO somewhere in Africa..an please Kibera is reducing in size due to upgrading an very soon there will be no space for cons to go back

Okay, what of the other slums? there are about seven Kenyan slums out of the top twenty in Africa by ranking of slums, what do you have to say to this?

genieluv:


Holly Even most Nigerians do not wear the bogus cultural attires walking on the streets. We wear them to social/formal gatherings alone mostly.
We haven't also promoted these attires as such to foreigners. We r gradually doing that

Then how comes you guys yap that Kenyas dont have stuff like that..i can tell that in our social traditional gathering we also wear ours an they are cool

PissedYagami:

Hahahaha I am not that tall. But Nilotes are very tall, I am sure you see how tall the south Sudanese people are. Maasai, Kalenjin, Luos are very tall. I am sure you see Nilotes a lote, races-Kalenjin, Football - Luos and Maasais are very popular around the world. The Bantus however are not that tall, you rarely get to see them a lot, they don,t participate in Sports a lot. We are in the same AFCON qualifiers group, we will play vs you in Ethiopia, you will see how tall some Kenyans are
Most of Kenyan farming is not traditional, it is modern. Most of things in Kenya are very modern btw. We are quite developed for an African country. Like we buy our milk from the shops and supermarkets, coz it is bought from the farmers and then processed and packed. You should visit Kenya some day

There would be a great then. I hope we revenge our 5-0 defeat by Ghana on you guys lol

I really want to visit Kenya. My classmate back grade 10 usually visited Kenya during summer and he told me how clean and modern Nairobi was. The rest about it's natural beauty and wildlife is known. Most of the documentaries on NatioWild is about Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana and South Africa. Ethiopia has natural beauty and wildlife, so Ethiopia should also needs to be included I guess.

My attitude towards Kenyans was almost negatively before I joined this forum. Now Kenya is the country I love the most after my country. My attitude towards Nigeria also changed for the best.

freshest4live:

Okay, what of the other slums? there are about seven Kenyan slums out of the top twenty in Africa by ranking of slums, what do you have to say to this?

LETS FORGET ABOUT SLUMS.............

freshest4live:

Okay, what of the other slums? there are about seven Kenyan slums out of the top twenty in Africa by ranking of slums, what do you have to say to this?

the others a smaller as compared to Kibera (actually very small ) an they situated near industrial area so guys would have to pay much to go to work..apparently life is soo cheap in slums that sometime one would wish just go an live there..i know millionaires (Kshs ) who live in the ghetto..

PissedYagami:

How thick can you be?

I really do not indulge stupid people.

mtis:

the others a smaller as compared to Kibera (actually very small ) an they situated near industrial area so guys would have to pay much to go to work..apparently life is soo cheap in slums that sometime one would wish just go an live there..i know millionaires (Kshs ) who live in the ghetto..

Okay l believe the full blown slums then may not be up to 6 or 7 as portrayed, probably some of those are just low income areas like Ajegunle.

Hati13:

There would be a great then. I hope we revenge our 5-0 defeat by Ghana on you guys lol

I really want to visit Kenya. My classmate back grade 10 usually visited Kenya during summer and he told me how clean and modern Nairobi was. The rest about it's natural beauty and wildlife is known. Most of the documentaries on NatioWild is about Kenya, Tanzania, Botswana and South Africa. Ethiopia has natural beauty and wildlife, so Ethiopia should also needs to be included I guess.

My attitude towards Kenyans was almost negatively before I joined this forum. Now Kenya is the country I love the most after my country. My attitude towards Nigeria also changed for the best.

why was your attitude negative towards Kenya sir if i may ask

PissedYagami:

Wow, those clothes are amazing. OMG

We don't wear the bogus or tight ones for everyday affairs, doesn't mean we don't wear at all lol

We wear the simpler ones for everyday activities like these ones below (especially on fridays).

genieluv:


We don't wear the bogus or tight ones for everyday affairs, doesn't mean we don't wear at all lol

We wear the simpler ones for everyday activities like these ones below (especially on fridays).

the ladies look nice..i wouldnt say much for the guy coz am one of them

mtis:

Then how comes you guys yap that Kenyas dont have stuff like that..i can tell that in our social traditional gathering we also wear ours an they are cool

These r the bogus/more expensive/occasionally designed ones am talking about. Lol

PissedYagami:

NGOs exaggerate those figures so that they can get more funding. Kibera had a population of 170k during 2009 census. Probably 300k now at worst.

That's still too much and it reflects a sick society.It's sad when people come here to downplay such problems when right now as I type another child with a bleak future is being born in that slum and the politicians don't really care because their own kids have the best of everything.Same goes for Nigerians here.So far what we have done for over 1000pages is comparing two struggling messed up societies to see whose poo smell nicer.