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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 4:49pm On Jun 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Thanks for the clarification buddy !

No pls. I think Ishalbash is wrong here.
Hausas are not indigenous to most northern states.

~~There are 19 northern Nigerian states n ethnic hausas form the overwhelming majority (80-100%) in only 5 of these states (Sokoto, Zamfara, Katsina, Jigawa & Kano).
2 other states (Kaduna & Kebbi) have about 50% hausas.
Hausas are small minorities in the other 12 northern states and are mostly settlers there (non-indigenous). Apart from maybe (Bauchi state) smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:51pm On Jun 14, 2017
Hati13:

What! Ethiopians being among the top spots in visiting Mombasa. I'm surprised, because I never thought Ethiopians visit other countries as a tourist that much.

Did you visit Mombasa?

Yeah, many Ethiopians visit Kenya and there's a sizeable Ethiopian community in Nairobi and Nakuru. In Nairobi's Kilimani neighborhood there's an Ethiopian church and Ethiopian restaurant. There's this popular Ethiopian girl living in Kenya who runs a fancy Ethiopian restaurant and uses Facebook to advertise her business.

I live in Kenya and I visit Mombasa frequently. I have family living in Mombasa. I'll be visiting Mombasa next in August.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:53pm On Jun 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


kaka, kuna venye Luhyas are very mixed with Nilotes esp Luos. Do you think that had an influence on their great sportsmanship?

I think so because Bantus tend not to be so good in sports and physically Nilotes are stronger than Bantus.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by genieluv(f): 4:54pm On Jun 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:



Do Hausa's live in that Bauchi state?

Holly they do. N infact they (hausas) are almost taking over Bauchi state cos most of those smaller ethnic groups have become hausanized n abandoned their own native languages.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 4:58pm On Jun 14, 2017
genieluv:


yah, Islam has destroyed the culture.





But... They still do " shadi" its very common in my place.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:59pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Yeah, many Ethiopians visit Kenya and there's a sizeable Ethiopian community in Nairobi and Nakuru. In Nairobi's Kilimani neighborhood there's an Ethiopian church and Ethiopian restaurant. There's this popular Ethiopian girl living in Kenya who runs a fancy Ethiopian restaurant and uses Facebook to advertise her business.

I live in Kenya and I visit Mombasa frequently. I have family living in Mombasa. I'll be visiting Mombasa next in August.
If you didn't eat Ethiopian food, then make your debut there. You may love it.

Can you take me with you vie your bag? lol grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Isahalbash(m): 5:31pm On Jun 14, 2017
genieluv:


No pls. I think Ishalbash is wrong here.
Hausas are not indigenous to most northern states.

~~There are 19 northern Nigerian states n ethnic hausas form the overwhelming majority (80-100%) in only 5 of these states (Sokoto, Zamfara, Katsina, Jigawa & Kano).
2 other states (Kaduna & Kebbi) have about 50% hausas.
Hausas are small minorities in the other 12 northern states and are mostly settlers there (non-indigenous). Apart from maybe (Bauchi state) smiley







Nop, you r wrong toogrin even in Borno a non Hausa state, we have indigenous hausas. They hausas mayb in minority in those states but they r indigenes... I just understood why most Hausas in plateau state r NT gvn indigene letter they rather obtained it in Bauchi.



We have majority Hausas in - Kano, Jigawa, Sokoto, Kaduna( you might disagree, but hausas r majority here oda tribes r minorities), Zamfara, Katsina, Bauchi and maybe Kebbi( nt to sure here)... Minority in Borno, gombe, yobe, adamawa, Niger, Nasarawa, plateau, Taraba.









If Hausas r 50% in Kaduna nd kebbi states respectively, in a state dat has multiple ethnic groups- And d oda 50% is divided amongst d Jabba, kataf, Fulani, Gwari etc. Someone should do d calculation for me and tell me which is d majority tribe in such states...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:37pm On Jun 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:


kaka, kuna venye Luhyas are very mixed with Nilotes esp Luos. Do you think that had an influence on their great sportsmanship?
Definitely, kina Humfrey Kayange. Ukimix speed ya Bantus na endurance ya nilotes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jun 14, 2017
MtuMsuper:

Maras and Samia are at the complete opposite sides of understanding amogst luhyas. They struggle to understand each other, many a time they use swa to communicate, i have an example where i work where two of my colleagues are from both groups and they agree it's hard to understand the others dialect. I think they're therefore separate tribes. Some say the groups with several sub tribes emerged as a tribe during the colonial era for administrative purposes and for political purposes in forming KADU. . For example, before '52 all kalenjins were simply referred to as "Nandi" whereas there was a curious term called "Kavirondo" that grouped both luos and many of the luhya sub tribes. Agitation for separate identities and a need to form political parties actually created groups like kalenjin who have a similar dichotomy in spoken language between them as the luhyas do. Indeed many kale friends of mine tell me of how one innocent word in one dialect can be a complete insult in another. I think some languages within each subtribe have diverged sufficiently enough to become separate languages and hence tribes. It's like how Dutch and Afrikaans have evolved and developed separately to become different inspite of common origins.. I'd say the divergence of English from German would be a good example too.
True,

Kalenjins are so diverse. Imagine even Ogiek people are there, Pokots and Sabaot on mount Elgon. Even their culture are different.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:52pm On Jun 14, 2017
Hati13:

If you didn't eat Ethiopian food, then make your debut there. You may love it.

Can you take me with you vie your bag? lol grin

I'll actually go via the newly launched SGR. The economy class is a mere KES700 ($7) from Nairobi to Mombasa - that's 3 times cheaper than bus - while the business class is KES3000 ($30) and almost twice faster than taking a bus and much cheaper than air.

I'll definitely try Ethiopian food. Did eat some injera from my Somali friend's home though.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


I think so because Bantus tend not to be so good in sports and physically Nilotes are stronger than Bantus.
I think it depends. Many Bantus are watered down by admixture and not all nilotes look strong also because of admixtures(eg pokots - I hear they're good with AK47s though grin )

Bantus do well in sports like football, boxing, weight lifting, short distance running while nolotes do well in endurance sports like long distance. Their bodies are slender.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 6:37pm On Jun 14, 2017
ArtanK:


Dude, what is your problem? Any time you have mentioned Somalis, it has been negative. You sound like you've got a huge chip on your shoulder.

Care to explain why you think Somalia won't be stable in the near future?
I am just a realist mate. I wish Somalia well but I dont see that happening anytime soon, sorry bruh
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 6:40pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


I think so because Bantus tend not to be so good in sports and physically Nilotes are stronger than Bantus.
Yeah, I wonder why though?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:41pm On Jun 14, 2017
Muafrika2:

I think it depends. Many Bantus are watered down by admixture and not all nilotes look strong also because of admixtures(eg pokots - I hear they're good with AK47s though grin )

Bantus do well in sports like football, boxing, weight lifting, short distance running while nolotes do well in endurance sports like long distance. Their bodies are slender.
Fair...
Most Bantus who do well in very heavy sports are mixed with nilotes though. Interestingly, mixed Bantus are on average stronger than both Bantus and Nilotes (e.g Luhya, Baganda, Bagisu, Banyoro, Kisii to some extent). The Eastern Bantus who didn't mix with Nilotes aren't so good in heavy sports such as weightlifting eg. Kamba, Taita, Chagga, Pare etc. Kikuyu's are a very mixed people - some of them are more mixed with Nilotes while others are more mixed with cushites

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 6:43pm On Jun 14, 2017
PissedYagami:

Yeah, I wonder why though?

I guess original nilotes were giants of people. See the Sudanese for instance - they're a purer form of nilotes than Kenyan and Ugandan Nilotes. BTW phenotypes suggest Cushites are a mix of nilotes and Arabs. Can the Ethiopians on this thread say something about that?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 6:48pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


I guess original nilotes were giants of people. See the Sudanese for instance - they're a purer form of nilotes than Kenyan and Ugandan Nilotes. BTW phenotypes suggest Cushites are a mix of nilotes and Arabs. Can the Ethiopians on this thread say something about that?
And the Turkanas of Kenya, they are very tall too. Saw this somewhere
In the case of some Sudanese tribes, males can have an average height of 1.9 m (6 ft, 4in) (!), while women of 1.8 m (6 ft) (!). These people have slim but strong bodies, and their heads are more elongated than in the case of the typical African Blacks. In case of a mixed race, these huge heights may not be generally attained by the population.

The most famous group and more racially preserved of the Sudanese race are the Nilotic tribes (they all originated on the Upper Nile area). The most famous are Maasai, Turkana, Samburu and Dinka, whose main occupation is animal husbandry.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 6:48pm On Jun 14, 2017
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:27pm On Jun 14, 2017
TayserMahiri:

I've tried to search for Ethiopia but cant find it
I told ya so grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:29pm On Jun 14, 2017
Omoluabi16:
If you mock me ehn.. frankly I just had that belief without even confirming it. Big error.

NB- I aint mocking
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:29pm On Jun 14, 2017
fanficgirl:
I didn't know people still use telegram machines
I was talking about the app
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:31pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


Me

I was planning to create telegram group to have the biggest nairaland team in the app. But since most of 'em don't use it. . .i just dropped the idea
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:34pm On Jun 14, 2017
Guys please wish NairobiWalker the best birthday!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! HAVE A BLAST!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:43pm On Jun 14, 2017
uzzyfire:
guy is Kenya short of people ?

Why do you say that?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 7:47pm On Jun 14, 2017
Hati13:

Cities/Towns - Addis Ababa, Lalibela, Bahir Dar, Mekele, Axum, Adwa, Harar, Gondar, Awasa and Dire Dawa.

What about in Kenya other than Nairobi and Mombasa?

We have so many... Naivasha, Nakuru,Kisumu, Nyeri,Nanyuki,Narok,Mombasa,Diani,mtwapa,Kilifi,watamu,malindi,lamu...

The list is endless plus 1000's of parks, conservancies, lakes...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 7:59pm On Jun 14, 2017
Jay254:


We have so many... Naivasha, Nakuru,Kisumu, Nyeri,Nanyuki,Narok,Mombasa,Diani,mtwapa,Kilifi,watamu,malindi,lamu...

The list is endless plus 1000's of parks, conservancies, lakes...
You forgot Eldoret.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:00pm On Jun 14, 2017
fanficgirl:

You mean the Chinese are on steroids in Angola. Honestly, I don't see how they are promising except for the Portuguese there.
My dear, why have you fallen into this trap where you ascribe all progress in another African country to non black people? Have you ever met intelligent and educated non Nigerian Africans in your life?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 8:03pm On Jun 14, 2017
PissedYagami:

You forgot Eldoret.

The city of champions
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:09pm On Jun 14, 2017
cc : muafrika2 cool

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 8:09pm On Jun 14, 2017
Muafrika2:

True,

Kalenjins are so diverse. Imagine even Ogiek people are there, Pokots and Sabaot on mount Elgon. Even their culture are different.



Good you mentioned pokots. Can they ever change their (cattle rustling ) ways? Hiyo eneo yao iko na potenjo mbaya mbovu lakini wana pungufu ya elimu, exposure na ujajna. Kama wangetaka, wangekuwa no.1 suppliers wa nyama ndani ya KE, lakini zii ,wako na storo za kuiba tu mifugo na risasi. Nawaombeanga jo, nawapenda ila wana itikadi kali.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:11pm On Jun 14, 2017
NairobiWalker:


I guess original nilotes were giants of people. See the Sudanese for instance - they're a purer form of nilotes than Kenyan and Ugandan Nilotes. BTW phenotypes suggest Cushites are a mix of nilotes and Arabs. Can the Ethiopians on this thread say something about that?
Let me explain it like this:-
Cushites are the people who speak Cushite languages. The ancestor of Cushitic is Afro-Asiatic. Afro-Asiatic originated in the Horn of Africa. All Ethiopians and different Afro-Asiatic speaking people were one people and spoke one language(Afro-Asiatic) around 10,000 BC. Afro-Asiatic started to branch to other sub languages after 10,000 BC.

Nilo-Sharan is an independent Super family language like Afro-Asiatic. The ancestor of Afro-Asiatic was Proto-Afroasiatic, but the ancestor of Nilo-Sharan isn't. So those super family languages don't have common ancestor, which means Cushites has nothing to do with Nilotes.

The ancestor of Bantu family languages is Niger-Congo super family language. Niger-Congo super family language doesn't have the same ancestor with Afro-Asiatic super family language, which means Cushites has nothing to do with Bantus.

So the answer to your question is Cushite people aren't the mix of Bantus and Nilotes. The ancestor of Cushite people was Afro-Asiatic speaking people around 10,000. Semitic, Omotic, Berbers, Chadic and Ancient Egypt family language speaking people were/are sister of Cushitic speaking people.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 8:19pm On Jun 14, 2017
Hati13:

Let me explain it like this:-
Cushites are the people who speak Cushite languages. The ancestor of Cushitic is Afro-Asiatic. Afro-Asiatic originated in the Horn of Africa. All Ethiopians and different Afro-Asiatic speaking people were one people and spoke one language(Afro-Asiatic) around 10,000 BC. Afro-Asiatic started to branch to other sub languages after 10,000 BC.

Nilo-Sharan is an independent Super family language like Afro-Asiatic. The ancestor of Afro-Asiatic was Proto-Afroasiatic, but the ancestor of Nilo-Sharan isn't. So those super family languages don't have common ancestor, which means Cushites has nothing to do with Nilotes.

The ancestor of Bantu family languages is Niger-Congo super family language. Niger-Congo super family language doesn't have the same ancestor with Afro-Asiatic super family language, which means Cushites has nothing to do with Bantus.

So the answer to your question is Cushite people aren't the mix of Bantus and Nilotes. The ancestor of Cushite people was Afro-Asiatic speaking people around 10,000. Semitic, Omotic, Berbers, Chadic and Ancient Egypt family language speaking people were/are sister of Cushitic speaking people.
He said a mixture of Nilotes and Semites, not Bantus, Bantus came to East Africa later.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 8:21pm On Jun 14, 2017
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