Icon4s:


Haha haha.

Seems the only Eagles he credits is his 1980 winning class.

Ask him to pick 5 best Nigerian players ever and 4 will come from his set.

He said Akpeyi is the worst Eagles goalie ever. He forgot there was one Chigozie Agbim. Hahahaha.

Mickael2:

what's the difference between Agbim and Akpeyi?

Joebie:
Some very important points from Segun Mathematical7 Odegbami

Reasons for our loss:

1. SOUTH AFRICA'S PROGRESSION OVER THE YEARS: "In short, the improvement of Bafana Bafana is real. It has taken them all of 25 years to break through the psychological, physical and technical barriers that generally held them back for so long.
Nigeria has been their ultimate litmus test because, aside from never defeating Nigeria..."

With my earlier opinion: 100% in agreement

2. ROHR FAILING TO STUDY SA: "He took South Africa for granted and assumed that any team he assembled would defeat them based on history and past tradition. He played with the weakest goalkeeper to have ever kept goal for the Super Eagles. He played a young debutant in the heart of the defence."

With my earlier opinion: 100% in agreement

3. PLAYER SELECTION AS REGARDS ROLES IN THE MIDFIELD: "He played with three great defensive midfielders in one team at the same time. Throughout most of the match they clashed in their roles. He did not have a holding midfield player as well as a creative midfield general. ... It needs a creative midfield general, an artist, a player that can hold the ball and deliver ‘killer’ passes to free a frontline brimming with goal-scoring talent. The very quick attackers must be filled with the confidence and freedom to take on defenders, use the spaces in the flanks and their natural physicality within the box to finish in front of goal."

With my earlier opinion: 100% in agreement (I had said we lost the match in the midfield)

4. DEPLOYING HIS IN-FORM FORWARDS: "Finally, he only deployed his new, young, in-form and lethal forwards late in the game when the match had already been lost." [Maybe referring to Kayode]

I didn't say this earlier. As I don't think either of Kayode or Osihmen would have made a difference even if they started

Icon4s:


Haha haha.

Seems the only Eagles he credits is his 1980 winning class.

Ask him to pick 5 best Nigerian players ever and 4 will come from his set.

He said Akpeyi is the worst Eagles goalie ever. He forgot there was one Chigozie Agbim. Hahahaha.

Odegbami forgot that Akpeyi was there because of EXPERIENCE.

At least Awaziem can claim Rookie.

Icon4s:


Joebie, I salute you for your objectivity. That is the spirit.

You were one of those that strongly recommended Awaziem to start over Omeruo. But after the game you have come to realize why some of us wanted Omeruo no matter how Awaziem performed at the 'drills'.

You now understand why I have always been against starting a rookie in the heart of the defense.

With time I know this wound will heal.

TheGoodJoe:


Odegbami forgot that Akpeyi is there because of EXPERIENCE.

At least Awaziem can claim Rookie.

kennysville:



Hmm ... the day Omeruo will fluff his lines again, u will still come back and say he is no good. Frankly, I am not sold on Omeruo. That dude fidgets a lot at the back. Dont worry, cameroun game is next. We will see how his expereience plays out. Experience. Experience, how did Echiejile fair in that game? Would u honestly beat your chest and say he had a good game?

I think we still dont get it. We lost the game from our midfield. Talking about rookie defender or whatever the case is , is practically immaterial. We have seen good midfielders make defenders look soooo gorgeous. And when all that is not in place,
Same defenders get jittery. And thats just exactly what happened. We lost the game from wrong tactics and bad midfield combo. PERIOD!
Anyone but omeruo please

do4luv14:


I don't said he is of poi,t, but are you telling me that even after watching the match, you don't pin point it,

1. Onezi is always dis-organized, he dose not stay in his position, he like going here and dia, and wen the player who was supposed to be covering that area, see onazi doing it, he joins the attack thinking onazi will cover, but you already know he wo,t

Mickael2:


what's the difference between Agbim and Akpeyi?

Agbim is Agbon (coconut) while Akpeyi is Apeere (basket) so basket can still be used to carry coconut

Joebie:
Anybody who holds tight to his/her beliefs can never grow. As humans we need to keep learning. I was wrong about Awaziem.

Segadem:
Agbim is Agbon (coconut) while Akpeyi is Apeere (basket) so basket can still be used to carry coconut

kennysville:



Hmm ... the day Omeruo will fluff his lines again, u will still come back and say he is no good. Frankly, I am not sold on Omeruo. That dude fidgets a lot at the back. Dont worry, cameroun game is next. We will see how his expereience plays out. Experience. Experience, how did Echiejile fair in that game? Would u honestly beat your chest and say he had a good game?

I think we still dont get it. We lost the game from our midfield. Talking about rookie defender or whatever the case is , is practically immaterial. We have seen good midfielders make defenders look soooo gorgeous. And when all that is not in place,
Same defenders get jittery. And thats just exactly what happened. We lost the game from wrong tactics and bad midfield combo. PERIOD!
Anyone but omeruo please

Icon4s:


All just because Alampasu didn't make match day squad. Haha haha

The truth is there are no good goalkeepers in Africa any more. I mentioned this fact months ago.

If I look into the NPFL for instance I can't even think of any goalie that is credible enough to face Cameroon in the absence of Ikeme.

No just mention Alampasu o bc that game go be like horror movie. I no go watch.

I don't even know why Emmanuel Daniel is being ignored. I have more confidence in him than Alampasu.

Let us see the goalies Rohr will invite against Cameroon.

goldfish80:
England's Young Lions can handle the Golden Generation tag - Abraham

England Under-21 striker Tammy Abraham insists the Young Lions can handle being called the next Golden Generation.
The 19-year-old is confident Aidy Boothroyd's youngsters are ready to take the spotlight following the Under-20s' World Cup triumph on Sunday.
Paul Simpson's side were crowned world champions after a 1-0 win over Venezuela, with the Under-21s now aiming to echo their success at Euro 2017 in Poland.
The previous group named the Golden Generation included David Beckham, Frank Lampard, Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney but never got past the quarterfinal stage of a major tournament.
Chelsea forward Abraham is preparing for Friday's tournament opener against holders Sweden in Kielce and believes the new crop can cope if they are given the same nickname.
He said: "We definitely can handle that tag. We have guys who are talented, can work hard and have everything. It's just about blending in and becoming one, not just thinking about yourself.
"They did the country so proud and we would love to follow in their footsteps by winning the Euros. Obviously being the Under-21s we want to show we are the next up and coming players for the England squad, so there is a bit of pressure.
"But then we have some amazing lads, so we think we can go far as well. We can't have them bragging they won and we didn't!''
Abraham, who has been linked with a loan move to Newcastle or Brighton, was eligible for Simpson's Under-20s squad but was selected by Boothroyd for Euro 2017 after scoring 26 goals on loan at Bristol City last season.
He could have been a world champion but is determined to focus on succeeding in Poland with the Under-21s.
Abraham, who will wait until after the tournament to decide his future, said: "Yes it's bittersweet, it's true. It's a great achievement. I'm sure they're proud of themselves.
"The whole country is proud of them. They deserved to win it. But obviously I'm here to win the Euros and we've got a lot of good players, so we're in with a chance.
"A lot of the boys watched the whole game at St George's Park after training. I'm proud to have helped them get to the tournament, of course, but obviously I'm so proud to be here as well.
"Hopefully what I've done all season is paying off and we can win the tournament. The boys are buzzing.
"It's massively inspiring. We're going into a massive tournament now with the Under-21s and it would be nice to end it on a blast. The boys are confident.
"We've had a great season. We just want to top off with a win. Some of the lads have played in the Premier League, in top teams, we have an amazing team. Hopefully we can show that. We're all excited and we just have to prove it.''

http://kwese.espn.com/football/england-u21/story/3143272/englands-young-lions-can-handle-the-golden-generation-tag-abraham


.........................
Tammy Abraham is already talking about being part of the golden generation of England players. Seriously, the way people talk up the prospects of some of these players dumping European countries for Nigeria perplexes me.

Is it that we haven't learnt from previous experiences that Nigeria will never be considered if such player is in the ascendancy with top career prospects.

Let's continue making derogatory comments about our home grown players and league while talking up the chances of Nigerians abroad to make babies who will represent us. Let's continue deluding ourselves.

If Tammy dumps England for Nigeria, I will quit my job and become a Thai monk for a year

Icon4s:


All just because Alampasu didn't make match day squad. Haha haha

The truth is there are no good goalkeepers in Africa any more. I mentioned this fact months ago.

If I look into the NPFL for instance I can't even think of any goalie that is credible enough to face Cameroon in the absence of Ikeme.

No just mention Alampasu o bc that game go be like horror movie. I no go watch.

I don't even know why Emmanuel Daniel is being ignored. I have more confidence in him than Alampasu.

Let us see the goalies Rohr will invite against Cameroon.

Dedebanky85:
Has it ever occur3d to anyone that Onazi could be a great LB/RB. Apart from the "wayo" PK they awarded against him in 2013 ANC, Onazi excelled greatly in the RB position against Zambia. Alaba was converted from MF to one of the best FBs. There are many more players like this. I say this cos I think Onazi could excel very well in thr problematic LB position. He has the energy to pace up and down all game, he tackles very firmly, we can manage his passings if he's in the opponents box.
Also, we seem to underrate Ideye a lot in Naija. Ideye is one attacker that makes a nonsense attack lime look like they have swag due to his link up play. Although, he misses a lot but his movement is a source of concern to most opposing defences. He worked perfectly with Emenike, Iheanacho and to some extent with Musa. One of my regrets watching SE is that I never got to see Ideye and Martins play together. To me these are the best linkup attackers that Naija have had in recent times.
With that being said, my ideal teamexcluding injuries would be:

Ikeme; Shehu RB, Balogun & Troost CBs, Onazi LB; Mikel and Ndidi MFs; Etebo LM/LW, Moses LM/LW; Iheanacho SS, Ideye FW

Mickael2:



Onazi of 2013 is not the same as Onazi of 2017. If you try that stuff then we will end up having a 3 man backline or the chances are that he will continue conceding dangerous freekicks. The criticism we have of his game is his lack of positional discipline and you want to play him at LB?

goldfish80:

Emmanuel Daniel haven't played a game yet for Orlando Pirates. Must be said the last season in Rangers, he was not the first choice. Nana Bonsu, kept about 80% of Rangers games, the other 20% was shared between Emmanuel Daniel and Akor Itodo.

Personally, I wouldn't suggest Emmanuel to start for the Super Eagles. I believe he has lost a certain spark in his game which he had in abundance while he was an upcoming keeper. These days, there's a lot of big manism in his game. He has become arrogant and pompous because he feels he have arrived.

I'm a huge fan of Daniel. I had him as Vincent Enyeamas successor especially after his heroics against Sfaxien in Tunisia. A game he saved a penalty and posted a shut out that she Rangers qualify for the group stages of the Confederations cup.

For now, he's not ready for the Super Eagles.

This is coming from a big fan.

GoodBuhari:
Chai we don loose this lad.

Joebie:
Let's be objective in our arguments. This is Cameroon's squad that won AFCON 2017.



Goalkeepers
Jules Goda (Ajaccio, France)
Fabrice Ondoa (Sevilla, Spain)
Georges Bokwe (Coton Sport, Cameroon)

Defenders
Faï Collins (Standard Liege, Belgium)
Ernest Mabouka (MSK Zilina, Slovakia)
Nicolas Nkoulou (Lyon, France)
Michael Ngadeu (Slavia Prague, Czech Republic)
Adolph Teikeu (Sochaux, France)
Ambroise Oyongo (Impact Monreal, USA)
Mohammed Djetei (Terragone, Spain)
Jonathan Ngwen (FC Progresso)

Midfielders
Sébastien Siani (Oostende, Belgium)
Franck Boya (Apejes, Cameroon)
Georges Mandjeck (Metz, France)
Arnaud Djoum (Hearts, Scotland)

Attackers
Vincent Aboubakar (Besiktas, Turkey)
Jacques Zoua (Kaiserslautern, Germany)
Benjamin Moukandjo (Lorient, France)
Clinton Njie (Olympique Marseille, France)
Edgar Salli (Nuremberg, Germany)
Christian Bassogog (Aalborg, Denmark)
Toko Ekambi (Angers, France)
Ndip Tambe (Spartak Trnava, Slovakia)

I personally don't see why we attach so much to the league a player plays or the division. I think players from the Championship. La Liga II, Serie B, and other top lesser leagues in Europe can still offer something if given the chance.

Kog45:
Icon4 remember we had a discussion on d need for Rohr to look at home front for players but guys here kick against it saying they are not good enough for national team but now we are having serious issue in goalkeeping and defence.

The same thing happened to Keshi prior to Afcon 2013 coz at that period we lacked quality defenders in Europe,Keshi look inward and discovered Oboboana,Eguekwe,Odunlami and moved Omeruo to CB when Yobo was losing it.

Rohr need to look inward coz we are lacking quality defenders in Europe and this was d reason a Porto B defender needs come in as CB and there is need for us to stop this attitudes of always forcing our players to early retirement coz I don't know why player like Oboboana was not considered for invitation again despite still playing in Europe.

On goalkeeping,well we have seen what happened against south Africa that in d absence of Ikeme we are in trouble coz I don't see Akpeyi,Ezenwa,Alampasu stepping into Ikeme shoe for now but I believe Austin Ejide and Dele Aiyenuga are still active,d duo are still better as cover up,i remember at a time Spain always have Casillas,Valdez,Reina in d national team,so what stop us from doing d same.

kennysville:



Hmm ... the day Omeruo will fluff his lines again, u will still come back and say he is no good. Frankly, I am not sold on Omeruo. That dude fidgets a lot at the back. Dont worry, cameroun game is next. We will see how his expereience plays out. Experience. Experience, how did Echiejile fair in that game? Would u honestly beat your chest and say he had a good game?

I think we still dont get it. We lost the game from our midfield. Talking about rookie defender or whatever the case is , is practically immaterial. We have seen good midfielders make defenders look soooo gorgeous. And when all that is not in place,
Same defenders get jittery. And thats just exactly what happened. We lost the game from wrong tactics and bad midfield combo. PERIOD!
Anyone but omeruo please

enomakos:
that better

Joebie:
My line up for Cameroon.
I think we will need "The Rock" Esiti. Has good ball control. He is big and his passes are pretty good. No disrespect to Onazi.
Ndidi will be fine helping out defensively as well.

http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=ty19s

Icon4s:


But why has it been difficult for you to admit that Awaziem had a very poor game? Why?

Kog45:
Michael2 and Onazi?

Oasis007:


I do not need to re-watch the Match Dude. I'm convinced Onazi was the best among the 3 Midfielders played by Rohr.

Hence, I really don't understand why some of you are pinning the Blame only Onazi. What were you expecting him do do?! Kill himself on the Pitch?!

Good chances were missed by both Etebo and Ndidi, yet they were stylishly left out of Criticism?! Why?!

Kindly chill a bit and free Onazi of sentimental Blames.