genieluv:


Lol @ PissedYagami, buh didn't the whites also wanted to stay in Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia et al? Buh the people of these countries apparently aren't as westernized as you Kenyans.

Sorry to say but you sound so ignorant...

A terminus somewhere in Africa

jln115:

"The number of the 18 most common wildlife species reduced from a total of 1,809,605 in 1977-1980 to 607,233 in 2011-2013." The number includes your wildebeest population not that of migrating wildebeest since the don't stay in your country permanently!


http://theconversation.com/kenyas-wildlife-populations-are-declining-markedly-as-livestock-numbers-grow-6664

So which are those South African large animals that number 20M? Elephants? Buffaloes? Rhinos?

See, there are only 700k Elephants in Africa, Buffaloes are 830k, rhinos are barely over 5k. Those put together are just about 1.5M animals in the whole Africa. Which are those mammals that make up 20M in SA then?

About the wildebeest, I told you they're just less than 1M in Maasai Mara after emigration and over 3M after immigration. All in all, the migrating animals move between Kenya and Tanzania and you've put the figure at less than 1M for both countries. That's absurd. Again those are figures for Maasai Mara alone.

PS...

Your link is absurd. Not only is it unreliable, it says nothing about the numbers of wildlife in Kenya. Honestly you sound like a troll.

PissedYagami:

You should just use one African language, say Igbo,

Hmm, would be quiet difficult, mainly because traces of the Empires and traditions that existed before the coming of the white man are still there in both North, middle belt, and southern Nigeria.
Maybe a better or more advanced form of pidgin English that has so many indigenous languages embedded and that can be recognized as an official language, would be easily accepted by all.

genieluv:


Thank you for telling QueenOfNepal, Ngozi123 n ephi321 the truth.

****Hausa-fulanis were more advanced than the rest of us before and even during colonialism buh that is history because today we are doing better than them.

You Igbos n Yorubas are doing way better in education, media, international achievements, economical influence e.t.c and am so proud of you guys n seriously wish my own middlebelt people to catch up with you guys cos it's obvious we are still behind.

Holly I wonder why many Nigerians like to paint the truth with bigotry. Sometimes, admitting the truth helps you work on yourself n bring out the best from within you. This is my school of thought.

You just spoke the truth. Nigerians are in the habit of telling lies thinking that we are protecting our interests not knowing that without being truthful we can't identify problems and find solutions

genieluv:


Sometimes i find you Southern Nigerians to be heavy hypocrites (am sorry if i sound insultive).

**** You guys keep on talking about how northern Nigerians dominate the military, politics or whatever buh you do not talk about how you guys dominate the economy of the country.
You guys are not talking about how the British favoured you guys by establishing the capital of the country in Lagos n how this has brought heavy development n urbanisation to Southern Nigeria n how this has made Southern Nigeria the economic powerhouse of the country.

Why don't you guys tell this to the Kenyans? ephi321 n co

Please stop making noise on my mention. Are you okay at all?

Logically, Northerners cannot dominate the economy when they have remained largely uneducated. Whose fault is it that they've continued to propagate the almajiri system and not educate their youths like other regions have done?

Figures and facts can never be twisted no matter how hard you try. In any case, make your ignorant and false comments in peace and keep me out of that nonsense. Same goes for the commenter above. I don't know you from Adam and won't tolerate you quoting my moniker aimlessly all over the place.

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Jay254:


Sorry to say but you sound so ignorant...

What do you expect from a person whose main contribution to this thread is Nigerian clothes? Thats why QueenofNepal called her out too

PissedYagami:

What do you expect from a person whose main contribution to this thread is Nigerian clothes? Thats why QueenofNepal called her out too

She's probably a tailor somewhere. Instead of facing her trade in peace, she is dabbling into things she knows next to nothing about. Very silly behaviour.

Lol, Nairaland is hosted on a server that is in Kenya. You guys are lucky we have fast internet here else Nairaland will not function

Marcelo290:
Nobody is talking about elections here man, try to be objective for once, Buhari can be likened to a plumber who told you your sink is bad, you hired him to come fix it and instead of doing so, he keeps telling you how bad the sink has gone rather than find a substantive solution, keeps feeding your mind with hatred about how the past plumbers did a very poor job, but why was he called? to fix the damn sink!

Buhari should do the needful and stop complaining, that is the point. You know the truth deep down you that things have gone bad, but your love for Buhari cos he's your Muslim brother wont allow you say the truth,..

Speak ye the truth and dou shall set you free!

Another twist to evade a simple argument. " am sympathetic to Buhari cos am a northerner muslim" for d sake of argument, let jst accept even though u can't prove ur assumption. You quick to say; northern hausas dislike Gej not because he didn't perform, but because isn't a northerner Hausa or Fulani muslim, accepted- while do southeasterners' hate Buhari?


In 2011 Benue, kogi, kwara, Adamawa and most southwest states voted Gej massively, while didn't they vote for him in 2015... I guessed its because Hausa/fulani Muslims owned dos states too daz y since he performed wonderfully?



I also guess SE don't hate Buhari because he's a northerner christians too...



You can't accused people of what you r also guilty of and say you're bn objective, daz a blatant lie, you knw it deep inside you.


If you want to be objective sincerely, then u shud stop saying some people hate bla bla cos u also do dsame.



Lastly, d person I quoted was talking about Northerners hate Gej, I equally asked him to do dsame for d SE ND see if dey also love a northern muslim... Daz why d election stuff came in not weda Buhari has done well or nt talk of me bn defensive cos daz illogical.

Maduawuchukwu:


You just spoke the truth. Nigerians are in the habit of telling lies thinking that we are protecting our interests not knowing that without being truthful we can't identify problems and find solutions

I don't know why i refused to engage you in a debate. You need to learn Fashion from your Stalkee so that you will talk About Africa and Utopian Fashion because politics is not your forte

Dear genieluv

Listen the below women empowering song. It's an Ethiopian song named "abet" and sang by "Yegn Band". The band was formed by 5 women in 2005(2013). All of them are in their 20s.

- "Yegn" is an Amharic word which means "ours". Our Band in English.

- "abet" is also an Amharic word which means "what".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvFDJjPcWEo

PissedYagami:
Lol, Nairaland is hosted on a server that is in Kenya. You guys are lucky we have fast internet here else Nairaland will not function

Cloudflare shows your location not where Nairaland's server is based, so that varies for each person when it displays the error message.

fanficgirl:

Is this legitimate?

Sure, make adequate research and educate yourself.

PissedYagami:
Lol, Nairaland is hosted on a server that is in Kenya. You guys are lucky we have fast internet here else Nairaland will not function

lol I thought I was the only one experiencing this

genieluv:


Sometimes i find you Southern Nigerians to be heavy hypocrites (am sorry if i sound insultive).

**** You guys keep on talking about how northern Nigerians dominate the military, politics or whatever buh you do not talk about how you guys dominate the economy of the country.
You guys are not talking about how the British favoured you guys by establishing the capital of the country in Lagos n how this has brought heavy development n urbanisation to Southern Nigeria n how this has made Southern Nigeria the economic powerhouse of the country.

Why don't you guys tell this to the Kenyans? ephi321 n co

On a more serious note I find most of your comments very funny, you need to do more of reading than hearsay, and we ain't fighting dear. Now let me school you a bit cos you are ignorant of some things you say here.

You firstly need to ask yourself which route the colonists used to enter the Niger area, it was through the sea. And Lagos is surrounded by water, what does that tell you? they navigated through the Atlantic Ocean, some landed in Lagos, while others through the river in Lokoja. Lord lugard administered Northern Nigeria where he was in charge before the almagamation with southern Nigeria from Lokoja, you can visit the said place presently on mount Parti in Lokoja Kogi state and see things for yourself.

Lagos was the route through which slaves were transported cos of the sea, so this was one of the earliest places the whites settled and controlled other regions from there, so what do you expect from such a place? most economic activities like trade, which comprised of agricultural products was transported and facilitated by Lagos cos of its closeness to the sea, Lagos was now annexed in 1861 and made the capital of the then Southern Niger area.

I speak with facts and not hearsay, do more of reading and research.

freshest4live:

The problem l have with the North is the radicalized form of Islam they practice. The form of Islam that is against western education and promoted by Usman Dan fodio, is what leaves them lagging behind, afterall the British has been away for the past 50 years now.
Take a look at Dangote, he is an example of what the educated core Northerner can become, the northerners had great empires then and the potential to unleash their talents but they have put themselves behind.
The economy and media would continually be controlled by southerners until the core north begin to embrace education and not just Islamic education alone.
Illiteracy is also the reason why many are prone to kill at the slightest provocation in the name of religion.

Do you have proofs dat Usman Dan Fodio was against western education? cos all his descendants if ant wrong acquired western education and r still seeking for it till today. Usman Dan fodio might have forcefully conquered many territories in d north, but I don't think his type of Islam " the Qaddariyya" are radical Muslims, besides most Yoruba practice it.

freshest4live:

Yeah the north has been affected by usman Dan fodio Islam, the core Northern tradition and history, if free of radical Islam or merged with just moderate form of Islam would do great.
Today a 15 year old Northerner from Nigeria(Ibrahim) is the youngest Havard student presently, honoured by even Obama himself.

Nice one but ur assertion abt d Usman Dan fodio form of Islam bn radical is wrong... Am stand to be corrected.

freshest4live:

So you think you are up to Nigeria's level because of HDI! keep deceiving yourself, you are not to be blamed, but we are to be blamed for even engaging you for so long, all in the name of education and discussion.

No nigga! We've done that many m,any times over these pages. i can't go back even if you paid me your naira! Have someone explain to you the importance of the HDI,a measure comprising multiple national indicators of national wellbeing unlike GDP which is easily faked.
While you're at it the same guy can tell you the real meaning of the legatum prosperity index and logistics prosperity index.

Isahalbash:





Do you have proofs dat Usman Dan Fodio was against western education? cos all his descendants if ant wrong acquired western education and r still seeking for it till today. Usman Dan fodio might have forcefully conquered many territories in d north, but I don't think his type of Islam " the Qaddariyya" are radical Muslims, besides most Yoruba practice it.

Ok, but you would agree with me that in general the Yoruba Muslims practice a more peaceful, progressive Islam than what is found in the core North. For example, you can't compare the Senegalese or Ghanians Muslims (who are more peaceful) to Nigerian Muslims or muslims in Afghanistan or Yemen.
My point is that the North lags behind in education and progress mainly because of the particular wahabbi form of Islam they have adopted.

You have time to school her. I'm happy i do come here now because her type are the ones that give false history about Nigeria to massage her Lilliputian ego.


Imagine her assertion about why the british gave Northern Nigeria political power?

I dare her to post this on a new thread and see if she won't deactivate the next day

Marcelo290:
On a more serious note I find most of your comments very funny, you need to do more of reading than hearsay, and we ain't fighting dear. Now let me school you a bit cos you are ignorant of some things you say here.

You firstly need to ask yourself which route the colonists used to enter the Niger area, it was through the sea. And Lagos is surrounded by water, what does that tell you? they navigated through the Atlantic Ocean, some landed in Lagos, while others through the river in Lokoja. Lord lugard administered Northern Nigeria where he was in charge before the almagamation with southern Nigeria from Lokoja, you can visit the said place presently on mount Parti in Lokoja Kogi state and see things for yourself.

Lagos was the route through which slaves were transported cos of the sea, so this was one of the earliest places the whites settled and controlled other regions from there, so what do you expect from such a place? most economic activities like trade, which comprised of agricultural products was transported and facilitated by Lagos cos of its closeness to the sea, Lagos was now annexed in 1861 and made the capital of the then Southern Niger area.

I speak with facts and not hearsay, do more of reading and research.

Isahalbash:





Another twist to evade a simple argument. " am sympathetic to Buhari cos am a northerner muslim" for d sake of argument, let jst accept even though u can't prove ur assumption. You quick to say; northern hausas dislike Gej not because he didn't perform, but because isn't a northerner Hausa or Fulani muslim, accepted- while do southeasterners' hate Buhari?


In 2011 Benue, kogi, kwara, Adamawa and most southwest states voted Gej massively, while didn't they vote for him in 2015... I guessed its because Hausa/fulani Muslims owned dos states too daz y since he performed wonderfully?



I also guess SE don't hate Buhari because he's a northerner christians too...



You can't accused people of what you r also guilty of and say you're bn objective, daz a blatant lie, you knw it deep inside you.


If you want to be objective sincerely, then u shud stop saying some people hate bla bla cos u also do dsame.



Lastly, d person I quoted was talking about Northerners hate Gej, I equally asked him to do dsame for d SE ND see if dey also love a northern muslim... Daz why d election stuff came in not weda Buhari has done well or nt talk of me bn defensive cos daz illogical.

You are still beating about the bush, am not talking about elections man, let's say some people hate him cos of his region and tribe, now do the whole country also hate him for same? Go to Benue, Kogi, and most middle belt states that voted him and shout "Sai Baba" and you would see the reaction of people, Nobody is saying Jonathan is perfect, but we voted in an acclaimed 'Messiah' to take us to the promise land, what has he done? this is the big question.

Most of those who voted him are regretting even some Hausa people, except offcus some primitive illiterate core northern Muslim.

You yourself be sincere, can you compare the economy now and in the last two years? that is the point man..

Kiss the truth!

freshest4live:

Ok, but you would agree with me that in general the Yoruba Muslims practice a more peaceful, progressive Islam than what is found in the core North. For example, you can't compare the Senegalese or Ghanians Muslims (who are more peaceful) to Nigerian Muslims or muslims in Afghanistan or Yemen.
My point is that the North lags behind in education and progress mainly because of the particular wahabbi form of Islam they have adopted.

You absolutely right here. I, also practice d Senegalese Islam, you re also right about d wahhabis( ahlusunnah, Izala ND salafis) bn radical Muslims cos we from d north who don't do dere type of Islam r also label " fake Muslims nd people of innovations'( bidi'a).

kikuyu1:


No nigga! We've done that many m,any times over these pages. i can't go back even if you paid me your naira! Have someone explain to you the importance of the HDI,a measure comprising multiple national indicators of national wellbeing unlike GDP which is easily faked.
While you're at it the same guy can tell you the real meaning of the legatum prosperity index and logistics prosperity index.

The HDI is important but Kenya's HDI in Africa which just recently puts her at the middle class is nothing to boast about yet, and of course Nigeria should sit up and do better.
GDP is the greatest measure for powerful societies or economies, that's just the way it is unfortunately, l also believe HDI should be what really matters, but it's not as simple as that. A 70 Billion dollar GDP for 45million people does not speak well of the Kenyan progress. This is the reason Kenya is not there yet for a so called dick measuring. You can't measure up in Economy, Military, Technology, Entertainment, Resources, except you wanna speak of Tourism and of course HDI.
Nigeria was the second largest economy in Africa for a long time despite using a 1990 model that didn't account for all aspects of her economy like Nollywood, fashion and the boom in telecommunication, even at that we were just slightly behind south africa, when all of these factors were brought in for the rebasement in 2014, it was already believed Nigeria would topple south africa by a wide margin.
You can see that we rarely talk about GDP when speaking with the south africans, this is because the SA with a GDP of about 350 Billion dollars for 50 million people is definitely a big economy in Africa.
Like you've said let's forget it, the arguement is not worth it.

NairobiWalker:


So which are those South African large animals that number 20M? Elephants? Buffaloes? Rhinos?

See, there are only 700k Elephants in Africa, Buffaloes are 830k, rhinos are barely over 5k. Those put together are just about 1.5M animals in the whole Africa. Which are those mammals that make up 20M in SA then?

About the wildebeest, I told you they're just less than 1M in Maasai Mara after emigration and over 3M after immigration. All in all, the migrating animals move between Kenya and Tanzania and you've put the figure at less than 1M for both countries. That's absurd. Again those are figures for Maasai Mara alone.

PS...

Your link is absurd. Not only is it unreliable, it says nothing about the numbers of wildlife in Kenya. Honestly you sound like a troll.

Large game include kudu, eland, waterbuck, zebra, impala,gemsbuck ect ect.

And why is my source absurd?? Because you say so??

"South Africa currently has an estimated 20.5 million head of game (approximately 16 million on private land and the rest on state parks)"

http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/articles/hunting-and-conservation.html

As I said before the head count only contains permanent game not migrating animals......that said if you include all the migrating animals, the population would still make up barley a tenth of that in SA.

PissedYagami:

The British tried to make Kenya like SA, but they met full resistance. Mau Mau and stuff. They even gave collaborators in the Anglo-Boer war land in Kenya. Thats why you will find places called Trans Vaal, Trans Mara etc here in Kenya. But the rebellion was badass here.
Our rugby and cricket are shittier than yours though better than all other countries in Africa I guess

British didn't do much in SA, we became a union in 1910.

Marcelo290:
You are still beating about the bush, am not talking about elections man, let's say some people hate him cos of his region and tribe, now do the whole country also hate him for same? Go to Benue, Kogi, and most middle belt states that voted him and shout "Sai Baba" and you would see the reaction of people, Nobody is saying Jonathan is perfect, but we voted in an acclaimed 'Messiah' to take us to the promise land, what has he done? this is the big question.

Most of those who voted him are regretting even some Hausa people, except offcus some primitive illiterate core northern Muslim.

You yourself be sincere, can you compare the economy now and in the last two years? that is the point man..

Kiss the truth!

You're jst talking sense now. When u kip generalizing some people from a particular place hate someone because of his religious affiliation daz wat I will never agree with you. Mind you, nt only core northerners still like buhari( you're generalizing again), some people who r not from d core north are stil wit him... You jst want to Mk it a northern tin ND exonerate oda part of d con3 wich is NT right.



I always argue hoping d truth should come from my opponent which I will gladly accept cos I fear, if d truth cums from, he might not accept.


I will always kiss d truth, from whom ever its comes from.

PissedYagami:

What do you expect from a person whose main contribution to this thread is Nigerian clothes? Thats why QueenofNepal called her out too

She has alot to learn, with scanty information she has she makes a conclusions like a person who has done 3yrs of research..

freshest4live:

The HDI is important but Kenya's HDI in Africa which just recently puts her at the middle class is nothing to boast about yet, and of course Nigeria should sit up and do better.
GDP is the greatest measure for powerful societies or economies, t[/b]hat's just the way it is unfortunately, l also believe HDI should be what really matters, but it's not as simple as that. A 70 Billion dollar GDP for 45million people does not speak well of the Kenyan progress. This is the reason Kenya is not there yet for a so called dick measuring. [b]You can't measure up in Economy, Military, Technology, Entertainment, Resources, except you wanna speak of Tourism and of course HDI.
Nigeria was the second largest economy in Africa for a long time despite using a 1990 model that didn't account for all aspects of her economy like Nollywood, fashion and the boom in telecommunication, even at that we were just slightly behind south africa, when all of these factors were brought in for the rebasement in 2014, it was already believed Nigeria would topple south africa by a wide margin.
You can see that we rarely talk about GDP when speaking with the south africans, this is because the SA with a GDP of about 350 Billion dollars for 50 million people is definitely a big economy in Africa.
Like you've said let's forget it, the arguement is not worth it.

Wrong again! GDP is no longer the only economic measure just because you say so! Your rebasing,btw,still puts your REAL GDP below ours according to Osinbajo,your own VP who put your REAL GDP at 90 tn naira. At the time your exchange rate was 470 and now 350 to the dollar.

kikuyu1:


Wrong again! GDP is no longer the only economic measure just because you say so! Your rebasing,btw,still puts your REAL GDP below ours according to Osinbajo,your own VP who put your REAL GDP at 90 tn naira. At the time your exchange rate was 470 and now 350 to the dollar.

Lol how you wish? Like l said the arguement is childish, you are wrong in your evaluation, thank God you are no finance minister or lMF body, but l'm tired of this arguement already. Even if l go with your arguement, it is funny to compare your Kenyan gdp with it, you are damn hilarious.
For your information, official exchange rate has never been 400 to a dollar.
If you want to be taken seriously, you should always do your own research a little. It is common with you and kenyastar, you guys pull down the efforts of other Kenyans here when you argue.