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Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by OtemAtum: 12:29pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
davidodiba:yes, a human-god |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by xtivin(m): 12:30pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
By default everyman is a computer full with virus, What the blood of Jesus does is the format the computer by giving it a new operating system, then if that man continues in christ an anti virus is installed in the new OS to resist virus attack (satan). Now virus is produced every day meaning the satan is active every moment hence Christians has to update their virus database often to resist attacks 2 Likes |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by OtemAtum: 12:31pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
chuksanambra:Ask Shina Rambo, once a thief, now a pastor ![]() |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Integrityfarms(m): 12:33pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
chuksanambra: Though he may be punished by the laws of the land but in the presence of God he is a free man and if he dies in his state of righteousness, heaven is for sure for him. 1 Like |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by GoodMuyis(m): 12:35pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
hahn: I strongly disagreed with you. Which one is better? To tell an immoral man that their is no God to judge is work, hence he gain confidence to remain wicked OR To tell an immoral man that there is God that will pardon his evil works IF he can repent, hence he sees compassion and change his from his wicked way make i rest small.. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by GeneralOjukwu: 12:42pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hier: In that case. ..give me your sister/wife for some hot sessions. I would beg Jesus for forgiveness immediately after. I would keep doing that till I supply pipe to all female members of your church |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by oglalasioux(m): 12:50pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Therefore, brethren, kill as many people as you wish. Take other people's property by force including their wives or husbands. Lie your way out of any situation. .. Don't worry, brethren. When you are through, just accept Jesus and you are as good as new. Nonsense! 1 Like |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by ultimate77(m): 12:54pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Can we relate Galatians 6vs 7 with 2cor 5 vs 17 |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 12:59pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Millz404: Did I mention Government in my topic |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:09pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
GeneralOjukwu: Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. Bro, speak to that flesh of yours Your body has the potential to conform to whatever your tongue says over time, just as the ship respond to the rudder and the car respond to the steering and the bit(rope) that controls the horse. I would that you come to the knowledge of Gods word,be saved and see you in God |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
nunamyeong:If that's true, then it no longer matters what you BELIEVE in. It's your ACTIONS that count, so you wouldn't need Jesus, in which case you wouldn't be a Christian, so you're wrong. In Christianity your beliefs are INFINITELY more important than your deeds, which makes it a simplistic religion for dummies and spastics that don't want to be responsible for their lives and actions, and want to put it in the hands of a fantasy conjured up by primitive ancients. If deeds are more important as you claim, why did Jesus grant salvation straight away to a THIEF on the cross whose deeds were bad, simply because he believed in Jesus and acknowledged him as the Messiah? I'm glad you can see the grotesque stupidity and immeasurable evil of the pernicous doctrine of Justification by Faith. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Amhappy(f): 1:14pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hier: I think the person you quoted is trying to warn the abusers of that scripture. It's true that God forgives but the consequences may still be there. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:18pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
ultimate77: Matthew 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. This should answer your question Once the tree is good, it becomes good, if the tree becomes bad, it is totally bad, so you either give your life to Christ and start living right and God would see a good tree. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Lovine: 1:18pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Are trying to tell me that Evan can be forgiven by his adapters just imagine the disgrace he drawn to his family,,,, Even his father is now crime Celebrity Evans has not committed unpardonable sin, God can forgive him if he truly repents but must face the shame of what he has done. God can forgive you if you got drunk but what you did when you got drunk is there for you to bear. Even yourself, Evan might be better than you. Don't judge |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
OP, I will hack off your head and feed your body to my dog. Then I'll repent so that God will forgive me and I can make heaven. Can you see? So sweet and simple, but extremely stupid_ and evil. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:23pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Amhappy: Do you know God wants us to have a personal revelation about Him Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Lemme ask ma, do you know God for yourself, forget all that you have heard, does God speak to.you, do you know about Spiritual gifts, is your desire on earthly things or your desire is in knowing God truely cause I weep for God when people use their religious sentiment to interpreted the personality of God |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:26pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Tearless: I wrote this post so as to give those who think God won't forgive them their past sin a different mindset about the personality of God, and by the way, I think we all need to come to the knowledge of Gods love towards us |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by hahn(m): 1:31pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
GoodMuyis: By telling a man there is no god, it makes him realize that he is responsible for his actions and that there are things as a judiciary system that men have come up with over the years to punish those who commit what society considers to be crime(s). OR God in this scenario is useless because most criminals already believe in god. Evans is said to pray daily by his wife and arm robbers would pray for a successful heist. There is no proof that belief in god reduces the tendency to commit crime. Even here in Nigeria we have one of the world's most corrupt officials even though they swear to god to be honest during their tenure with either the bible or quran and yet still go ahead to loot as much as they can. They are even endorsed by daddy GOs and Imams despite the obvious lootings going on. make i rest small.. Please think while you are at it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hier:But you forgot to add the kind of values it teaches, and the kind of nonsense it encourages. So, let me use you as an example, so that everyone can see that God really is merciful towards the evil and filthy. Shall we? ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by monex(m): 1:43pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
chuksanambra: repentance and forgiveness and mercy does not exempt you from restitution. in fact it is important to embrace restitution as part of seeking forgiveness from God |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Kay17: 1:43pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
hahn: Don't you think there should be redemption for everyone? |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:46pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
CzarChris: Oooooh, thanks for bringing up the case of Paul 1 Timothy 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. Lemme ask, Jesus suffered so much in the Bible, which sin did He commit ![]() Paul had the strength to do great works and the sufferings of Paul was not to pay for the evil he did, naaaa, it was not. God said to Paul, I want you ti testify before Caesar(Rome) Acts 23:11 And the night following the Lord stood by him, and said, Be of good cheer, Paul: for as thou hast testified of me in Jerusalem, so must thou bear witness also at Rome. All that Paul suffered, was so that the gospel would reach the outermost part of the earth and you would see Paul say things like 1 Corinthians 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, please remember Jesus said, Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. I believe this is your definition of what Paul passed through, but it was not restricted to Paul only, its a part of the cross of the believer. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 1:53pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
hahn: Insofar as I would agree that some aspects of religion as a whole are questionable, and that contemporary interpretations of Christianity especially Pentecostalism leave much to be desired with their ahistorical and unchristian focus on wealth, I must ask you to reconsider your negative and militant atheism. Christianity does not promote immorality. Far from it. The moral standards you enjoy today mostly come in a direct line from the Aristotelian/Judean/Christian teachings and traditions. Christian moral ideas from Jesus and Paul through Augustine, to Calvin and the modernists like Dietrich Bonhoeffer (I leave out more than 30 other philosophers out of consideration for space), are responsible for much of the modern values we take for granted. Christian ethics are at the root of the legal code practiced in just about all of Europe, America and their colonies. Even Asians adopt many of Christian codes of conduct indirectly. Christian ethics have permeated the entire world. The killing of twins was stopped by Christian doctrines, the forgiveness of prisoners can be traced to christian ideals, same for the equality of the sexes and universal suffrage. Democracy is a Greek idea polished by Christian influence. Christianity preaches against usury, polytheism (partly for its destructive effect on society), murder, adultery, stealing, bearing false witness, and showing unconcern at our fellow beings suffering. Even a respect for animals can be traced to Judeo/Christian teachings (one of the barbaric acts the Israelites noted about the Philistines was their habit of cutting off the leg of sheep for meat to keep the animal alive and the remainder fresh). Finally, Christians and Christianity more than any other group, helped spread education and science to the world. This is no small feat. I would argue that the Christian influence the strongest foundation of modern civilization To assert that Christianity promotes immorality is blatant falsehood. In the passage you quote, nobody, least of all Jesus is advocating that evil should go unpunished. Instead he means that no one is so bad that he will not be accepted into the fold if he repents. This is a radical departure of the idea of retributive and exclusionary law that existed before Jesus time. Remember the principal message of Jesus was forgiveness, love and repentance. The same Jesus declared a strict division between the religious and the political institutions : "Render unto Caesar what is Caesars ...."(Mark 12:17) A world without punishment is not a christian world. A world without redemption isn't either. Personally I tend towards (christian) agnosticism but that is not to say that I would support a misinterpretation of Christian doctrine in pursuit of my motives. Happy Sunday 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by hahn(m): 1:58pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Kay17: Of course not. If you commit a crime pay the time. That is the essence of responsibility. That is why we call ourselves adults That said, god does not have the right to punish anyone for sin because it created sin and created us with full knowledge of our sins before we even commit them, if the claim of it being omniscient and omnipresent are anything to go by, and therefore the responsibility of our crimes rest on it Fortunately, men of the judiciary know to ignore god when passing sentences because they understand every man is responsible for his actions I am yet to see a single criminal that was found guilty and allowed to walk free just because he/she is a "born again" Christian |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 1:59pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
greggng: You pay for the sins you didn't repent of And as a Christian, once you are a new man in Christ, you are a new member of the family of God, and one must live according, I mean as a citizen of heaven on earth. You should be guided by God. 2 corin5:19, take a look thanks, if you mind, see 1 Tim 1:12-13 |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by hahn(m): 2:00pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
IamaNigerianGuy: How come despite the fact that Christianity teaches all these things you claim we still have a high rate of crime, public lynching, corruption, rituals, kidnapping by the same Christians in our country, Nigeria, despite having a church on every street and attending church service weekly? 1 Like |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 2:03pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
hahn: Because we have a failed system of justice and government in Nigeria. It has nothing to do with Christianity or Islam or even traditional religion. All countries with social order share the same characteristics of strong government and institutions . They may be Islamic (Dubai), Christian(Norway) or atheist(China), Shintoist (Japan) etc. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Hier(m): 2:07pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
chuksanambra: When you give your life, it is required that you peace with all men, I never knew this post would get to FP, so it was just a casual sharing to me, I have many post before this, Yea, about restitution, why would anyone want to keep what does not belong to them in the first place and feel at ease. This post, well, I believe it would achieve the purpose for which it was intended. Many people are living under condemnation all their lives, not knowing what to do. Like someone earlier said, what shall separate us from the Love that abound in Christ, God sincerely Loves us, but we need to tell people God loves them at times, is not everytime we should be screaming the Hell gospel |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Kay17: 2:21pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
hahn: Yea but restitution is a form of redemption. The idea of being responsible by paying back for what you have done. In this way we are saying the same thing. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by davidodiba(m): 2:27pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
OtemAtum: Do you believe in God at all? |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by chuksanambra: 2:33pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
Hier: Who mentioned Hell? Did you hear me mention Hell in my post? I just said people should make amends for wrongs and you're already jittery saying people shouldn't live in condemnation. Bro, let me tell you, Zacchaeus was an example of someone who had peace with God and man. If you think asking people to be responsible for the consequences of their actions is threatening them with Hell, you're on your own o! Remember what the Bible said about those who subtract from the Bible? Let that guide your message. |
Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by Wilgrea7(m): 2:44pm On Jun 25, 2017 |
adepeter26: my apologies.. I've been really busy these days... I'll try to be more frequent here.. how's everything going with you? |
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