goldfish80:


Lewandoski is a big centre forward in the mould of Benteke and Drogba. Yes!

Ask anyone who watched Benteke at Aston Villa where he shouldered the goal scoring responsibility oft the team. He was a proper target man with quality skills on the ball to get past CBs. Why do you think Liverpool paid £35M for him in the first place if he's some clogger.

You have to step it down a bit before making comments against having a big striker up top. Even Germany had to recall Mario Gomez for their world cup campaign.

By the way, did I read your say Lewandoski is a no 10? Abeg, abeg stop.

do4luv14:


his only problem has been anger management

Loogan:


You just shot yourself in the foot lewndowski is not just a target man if you don't know he has mad workrate, link up play, dribbling skills vision, speed and defensive contribution, why do you think guardiola always advices iheanacho to learn from lewandowsi, you think when pep was in Bayern he would have bought him if he didn't fit his system?

Nobody is saying a old fashioned target man is not needed but Morden day coaches priorities technical dynamic forwards, not just some target man with no foot work, una no dey even try understand the coaches tactics and game plan but we be shouting for target man....the isak you are saying has good technique, which target man do the SE have that is technical and buries his chances? The one you have you are not appreciating, and please stop pulling that sentiment card it's just lame we equally want all your players to be successful so that our country can have something to be proud about...players will always have bad games that's part of the profession, but it seems some people here are and waiting for some players to underperform so they can just Criticize them....our young players are not there yet but that dosent mean we undermine them, we don't hype our youngsters as much as a lot of countries do.

goldfish80:

Who told you big strikers aren't dynamic and skillful? Have you watched Berbatov play? Ibrahimovic? Cavani? Luca Toni? Kluivert? The list is endless, these guys are the proper decision of centre forwards who are dynamic, skillful and all that.

I wonder where you guys got this idea that lewandoski is a no 10. Cam you mention the game he played as a no 10 for club or country? Can you list any stats website that lists him as a No 10?

I don't know how you guys come about some of the things you say here.

BascoVanVeli:


Lewandowski can't play 10 that's taking it too far o.

BascoVanVeli:

Sure and he could probably play goalkeeper too if need be.
He is not just a target man he has a great football brain with skill to match but that doesn't change the fact that he is great at holding up the ball. I would want my striker to have every trait possible but there is no need to nitpick.

TheGoodJoe:


No one is arguing his talent. The point is that he flopped at City.

do4luv14:



HW what, Js. Say you don't like him already

When I say Balo
You say Floppy
Balo
Floppy
Balo
Floppy

It seems you are talking about BaloFloppy.

TheGoodJoe:


When I say Balo
You say Floppy
Balo
Floppy
Balo
Floppy

It seems you are talking about BaloFloppy.

Loogan:


This is why I don't waste time arguing on this forum, do you know the meaning of an old fashioned target man? And I did not say lewandowski is a 10 I said he can play there because he has the ability..please read what wrote before you quote someone anyhow

TheGoodJoe:


Why do you think Klopp dropped Benteke on the bench? Hope you saw the kind of players attributed to Lewandowski, Shearer, Batistuta, not Drogba and Benteke.

TheGoodJoe:



That's what makes him so good. Lewandowski is a combination of every single kind of forward player. He finds space and can outmuscle defenders like Alan Shearer, has the eye for goal of a Batistuta or (Brazilian) Ronaldo, the quickfeet and vision of Sergio Aguero and links up play like Yaya Toure.

What Lewandowski does so well is all of the most basic of things. He is strong and powerful in the air, which suits being the target man, brilliant on the ball and under pressure in the area; capable of finding that one yard of space he needs to get a shot away, and plays with a vision and understanding of teammates required of a creative number ten.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/bayern-munich/11928742/Robert-Lewandowski-how-he-became-the-most-prolific-striker-in-Europe.html


Arguementator. Lewandowski is a thorough modern forward. Not a huff and Puff-puff player you are trying to make him.

TheGoodJoe:



Yet Lewandowski has told FFT that, although he was not happy about it at the time, operating in the No.10 role helped him become a more rounded player.

Speaking exclusively in the December 2015 issue of FourFourTwo, he says: “Borussia first expressed an interest after my first year in Poznan. When I left after the second season, I wanted to take the next step - but suddenly I was playing in a No.10 role. I was quite mad because I wanted to play up front.

It was only in the following year that I realised how much I had learned in that position. I told myself: ‘You have become a better player.’ Then I realised why the coach had asked me to play as a No.10; he made me a more complete player.”

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/lewandowski-i-was-mad-klopp-over-no10-role

BascoVanVeli:


Can he play 10 for Bayern yes or no?

Which kind of question is this one?

goldfish80:


The writer figuratively described his link up game like that of a creative midfielder. He didn't say he was or could play as a creative midfielder. I know English is not our first language but these sort of figurative comparism shouldn't be lost on someone like you with a decent level of education.

By the way, I never in any of my lost advocated for a battering ram kind of striker in the name of playing a big man ala Emile Heskey. I have always emphasised on someone who can bring other players into the game with a good hold up play. You cannot be decent in hold up okay without being good with your feet.

Drogba is not as skilled as Okocha but he just has about enough in his locker to get past his maker and he's deceptively quick. I recall Vidic highlighting this part of his game.

Loogan:


You just shot yourself in the foot lewndowski is not just a target man if you don't know he has mad workrate, link up play, dribbling skills vision, speed and defensive contribution, why do you think guardiola always advices iheanacho to learn from lewandowsi, you think when pep was in Bayern he would have bought him if he didn't fit his system?

Nobody is saying a old fashioned target man is not needed but Morden day coaches priorities technical dynamic forwards, not just some target man with no foot work, una no dey even try understand the coaches tactics and game plan but we be shouting for target man....the isak you are saying has good technique, which target man do the SE have that is technical and buries his chances? The one you have you are not appreciating, and please stop pulling that sentiment card it's just lame we equally want all your players to be successful so that our country can have something to be proud about...players will always have bad games that's part of the profession, but it seems some people here are and waiting for some players to underperform so they can just Criticize them....our young players are not there yet but that dosent mean we undermine them, we don't hype our youngsters as much as a lot of countries do.

goldfish80:

Your gut feeling told you that he can play as a no 10 and you basically want to impose your opinion in a public forum, which isn't guided by any laid down fact but merely on your gutt feelings.
However, I'm not surprised. You're the same guy who tried to shout me down with an unfriendly comment when I said Iwobi was having a bad game against SA. Not until Rohr substituted him that you ate your humble pie.

Seriously friend, stop making sentimental judgments. Don't run opinions on just how you feel. At home, it is cool but in public? You should be more calculated and screwed on.

jihday:
you just shot yourself Pep did ask within his powers including swapping Etoo to bring Ibra who is a target man to Barça

Loogan:


First you quoted me on a stupid argument now you are taking things personal your problem. And stop that sentiment thing, don't just assume everyone talks based on sentiment. I'm here to share my opinion, don't quote me if you know we are not going to learn from each other...you argue to attack personalities and do not see other people's opinions, you the sentimental one here.

Loogan:


No one cares if you love iwobi the most or not but guy are you watching this match? Like the other guy said iwobi has been impressive with the little he has seen on the ball he's Just not getting it enough, Simon has been the least threatening oga

TheGoodJoe:



Yet Lewandowski has told FFT that, although he was not happy about it at the time, operating in the No.10 role helped him become a more rounded player.

Do you want to argue with Lewandowski too? Learn and move on. You did not know but now you know. Simple. I once learnt about this too.

goldfish80:



Players at some point in their careers are made to play in unfavourable positions. Drogba at sone point in his career played at right back and later a right winger. Rivaldo fell out with Van Gal when he made play from the wings at Barcelona against his preferred position as a no 10.

It is wrong to label Rivaldo a winger because Van Gal forced him to play there or call Drogba a right back except you have an agenda.

Lewandowski is a proper centre forward. Playing him at no 10 is like asking a plumber to paint the sisten Chapel. Its not going to be pretty.

Stop the cries. The point is a simple as accepting the truth. Lewandowski has played the ten role and can play the ten role. Simple. Modern day forwards can play multiple roles. That is why Lewandowski can drop into different pockets off spaces during play. That is what makes him exceptional.

Finish. You can continue arguing forever or learn and move on.

Loogan, do not mind some of them here. They will rather take a bullet to the head than learn if it means they were wrong.

jihday:
you just shot yourself Pep did all within his powers including swapping Etoo to bring Ibra who is a target man to Barça

TheGoodJoe:



Stop the cries. The point is a simple as accepting the truth. Lewandowski has played the ten role and can play the ten role. Simple. Modern day forwards can play multiple roles. That is why Lewandowski can drop into different pockets off spaces during play. That is what makes him exceptional.

Finish. You can continue arguing forever or learn and move on.

Loogan, do not mind some of them here. They will rather take a bullet to the head than learn if it means they were wrong.

goldfish80:


Going by your allusion, one can say Drogba is a right back, Thomas Vermalen and Rio Ferdinand are strikers because they played those positions at some point? Aren't you tired of cooking up propaganda after propaganda just to serve an agenda? Congratulations anyway, you have succeeded in misleading a few people here with your half truths and misinformation.

TheGoodJoe:


You are not deceiving anyone here. My point is simple. Can play the role. That is no way saying that is his role.

The point is too simple. Learn and move forward. You did not know Lewandowski could play the ten role and can play the ten role. Now you know. Finito.

goldfish80:

If he can play the role why was he complaining in the interview?

"I wanted to take the next step - but suddenly I was playing in a No.10 role. I was quite mad because I wanted to play up front"

It's obvious Klop wanted him to learn something specific at that point which was the reason he deployed him there not because he could play as a 10.

Jumping in circles.

He did not say he can not play the ten role he said he wanted to play upfront. As I said, you are not deceiving anyone here. Learn and move on.

You did not know he has played the ten role or could play it. Playing ten for Dortmund is not beans. You can keep trying to deceive people.

You did not know, now you know.

Rather take a slug to the head than accept the truth.

TheGoodJoe:


Ibra is more than a target man and Guardiola had ideas he wanted to execute with Ibra that he could not achieve with Eto'o. Unfortunately, Ibra was too full of himself to learn and Guardiola had to let him go. Guardiola does not play with just target men. He demands more from his forwards.

goldfish80:

If he can play the role why was he complaining in the interview?

"I wanted to take the next step - but suddenly I was playing in a No.10 role. I was quite mad because I wanted to play up front"

It's obvious Klop wanted him to learn something specific at that point which was the reason he deployed him there not because he could play as a 10.

Lazyerudite:

Not to support him but he gave you facts. You can learn a few things. You dey have to win all arguements

TheGoodJoe:


Jumping in circles.

He did not say he can not play the ten role he said he wanted to play upfront. As I said, you are not deceiving anyone here. Learn and move on.

You did not know he has played the ten role or could play it. Playing ten for Dortmund is not beans. You can keep trying to deceive people.

You did not know, now you know.

Rather take a slug to the head than accept the truth.

goldfish80:


What circles? You're not happy because I highlighted the part you edited out in the interview quoted.

You gats to be kidding me. I posted an excerpt and put the link for any who wants to get the full story. Think of another excuse.

Rather take a cap to the skull than accept the truth.