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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:36am On Jul 02, 2017
Jayceon:
In Timbaland's voice *the damage is done so I guess I should be living*



Cry me a river!!



Cerebral Assassin....
You've been KAFFIRnated.Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:37am On Jul 02, 2017
Nowenuse:


There is nothing i am doing that Nairobiwalker is asking me to desist from really. What am i doing?
Don't mind that one jare.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:01am On Jul 02, 2017
Muafrika2:


NASA has the mkate nusu government as a mirror of what they are capable of. I remember Rails talking about a bridge from Mombasa road to Westlands before the Superhighway and sikuwa nashikanisha. One thing I know those people can bring is novelty in planning. Of course their focus is taking power. What else? They don't have the treasury in their control.

I always ask the same question. What else should they focus on? They have to be in power to deliver what they promise.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 7:22am On Jul 02, 2017
realjoker:
can you endeavor to provide us with the recent data please?

It's been done over 20 times! What's the use? Take it from me the latest national electricity coverage is 60%)
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:46am On Jul 02, 2017
Hati13:

Triple H cheesy
grin grin I knock down fools with my sledge hammer

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:00am On Jul 02, 2017
obaaderemi:
You've been KAFFIRnated.Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.
mental slavery you say.coming from someone who detests his black skin with a passion and sings oyinbo praises 24/7..that's just cute

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 8:09am On Jul 02, 2017
Jayceon:
The childish insults are exactly what I expected.what can a dumbo that operate with brain power of a zygote do to construct a proper comeback.

You have now being reduced to posting laughing emojis as defense,but I know behind that forced laughter your heart is dripping with blood from the deep cuts of Lord Jayceon's swords of war grin


Cerebral Assassin...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 8:11am On Jul 02, 2017
HURRAY.

At last, The BAN has been lifted
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:12am On Jul 02, 2017
Jayceon:
mental slavery you say.coming from someone who detests his black skin with a passion and sings oyinbo praises 24/7..that's just cute
400 Years A Slave With No End In Sight.You can always cry on our shoulders.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:15am On Jul 02, 2017
Shaytun:
HURRAY.

At last, The BAN has been lifted
Hahaha,what were you banned for,bro?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:23am On Jul 02, 2017
obaaderemi:
400 Years A Slave With No End In Sight.You can always cry on our shoulders.
you are cramped in shìthole that was set up by the Brits and today they are sipping tea in their mansions watching fools going back and forth with their religious and tribal squabbles


Take the L

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:49am On Jul 02, 2017
Jayceon:
you are cramped in shìthole that was set up by the Brits and today they are sipping tea in their mansions watching fools going back and forth with their religious and tribal squabbles


Take the L
400 Years A Slave With No End In Sight.You can always cry on our shoulders.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by realjoker(m): 8:52am On Jul 02, 2017
kikuyu1:


It's been done over 20 times! What's the use? Take it from me the latest national electricity coverage is 60%)
just back up your assertive statement with a link to clear his doubts.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 9:10am On Jul 02, 2017
obaaderemi:
Hahaha,what were you banned for,bro?

Posting too much links, I think.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:27am On Jul 02, 2017
Jayceon:
grin grin I knock down fools with my sledge hammer
grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:38am On Jul 02, 2017
So that's how being banned tastes..was banned for positing French an wasn't even abusing Nowe..I should have one that before they banned me
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:40am On Jul 02, 2017
Shaytun:


Posting too much links, I think.
"...outdated links to cover up my pain"


L

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:13am On Jul 02, 2017
realjoker:
just back up your assertive statement with a link to clear his doubts.

This is old info,btw, given the high electrification rate.

Kenya added 1.3 million households to its electricity grid last year, raising the percentage of connected Kenyans to 55%, from just 27% in 2013, when the country’s electrification campaign began in earnest. In another four years, Kenya plans to achieve “universal access” where 95% of homes will have access to electricity.

https://qz.com/882938/kenya-is-rolling-out-its-national-electricity-program-in-half-the-time-it-took-america/
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:14am On Jul 02, 2017
kikuyu1:


Time for the truth! Obama was just a homo!! But actually I don't blame him for that but for being a Zionist tool. Trump was brought into power by an anti Zionist faction-watch this space!
Lay down the pipe bruh..whatever ya smoking not good grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:20am On Jul 02, 2017
freshest4live:

Southafricans are ritualists too, if you want l would give you proof.
Ya number is to much up there grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:23am On Jul 02, 2017
Bifwoli:
Too much selective "facts" and misrepresentations here .

First off ,Lapsett was never about oil discovery it was mooted as part of Vision 2030 way back in 2008 - thats 4yrs before oil was 1st discovered in 2012,and in any case the total cost of Lapsett is way way above the small value of oil discovered .

You mention collapse of sugar industry but fail to say some of its woes are tied to Kidero - the NASA man widely held responsible for Mumias woes .And some of the chief accusers of looting and corruption were asked to go give concrete evidence to EACC they refused -cuz it was all for political mileage but with no supporting evidence.

You just mention one industry relocating but fail to highlight the many that've set base in Kenya.Daimler came in 2016,VW set up not too long ago,Hela clothing came in March 2017,many respected global hotel chains have opened shop,Volvo Trucks is opening an assembly plant in Mombasa and many other smaller firms have same plans.AVIC also set up their HQs here not bcuz of oil mind you.

You mention GDP not doubling and prices going up but you fail to say other factors like exchange rate went from 85 per $ to average 102 per $.In any case no country can lift its millions out of poverty in just 5yrs - even China with its massive growth of 10% for nearly 20yrs hasn'tbeen able to lift every Chinaman from poverty hence you see them trooping to settle in Africa.Real GDP growth has to go for long time in a sustained manner for you to see the dividends (has Ethiopia which is grows even faster managed to eliminated poverty?)

Lastly the debt rise has its visible effect - the roads ,power plants ,the massive rise in electrification rate ,the better hospital facilities (two specialised centeres in every county) the port dredging and capacity enhancement .the SGR ....all these are visible effects of debt rise and they'll have a knock on effect on GDP.

Now tell us with a straight face that living standards haven't improved and all these other factors don't have a net effect on the overall sitution? Lets not argue with emotions but let facts come naked with no skewed and selective way of looking at the big picture.

I've a buddy who supplied cane to Mumias and later interned there. He said Kidero turned round the companty. He cleared long standing arrears and increased production. His successor,a Coastal turned everything to poo.
Today's paper talks of a national shortage of WAREHOUSING. The implications are obvious; consumption is rising faster than FCMG producers plan for.
It's serious!

Almost two thirds of companies in Kenya are facing warehousing shortages, according to a poll released today by Tilisi Developments Limited, the first mover in Kenya’s emerging Grade A logistics real estate sector.

Of 52 companies polled across Kenya’s manufacturing, FMCG, pharmaceuticals, logistics, import, export, retail and e-commerce sectors, 62 per cent reported that they had experienced some kind of warehousing shortage in the recent pas

http://www.procurementandlogisticsonline.com/2017/06/warehouse-shortage-kenya/

That's very very real growth,by any standard,in fact imo,its even higher than what's captured in official stats. Yes,we still have poverty and inequality but its reducing. Also even a 30% GDP increase in 5 years,adjusted for rebasing is nothing to sneeze at.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:38am On Jul 02, 2017
kikuyu1:


This is old info,btw, given the high electrification rate.

Kenya added 1.3 million households to its electricity grid last year, raising the percentage of connected Kenyans to 55%, from just 27% in 2013, when the country’s electrification campaign began in earnest. In another four years, Kenya plans to achieve “universal access” where 95% of homes will have access to electricity.



so from your own source , access to electricity last year in kenya for 2016 is 55% wink 27% in 2013 ,

nigeria was 57.7 % in 2014 , but still the two countries like most african countries are very late in the world .

in africa when you see stats for access to electricity in 2014 , their is only 7 or 8 country that do well : South africa 86.0% ,Gabon 89.5 % , Morocco 91.6%, Libya 98.4%, Tunisia 99.8 % , Egypt 99.8% , Algeria 100%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:42am On Jul 02, 2017
Shaytun:


Posting too much links, I think.
Too bad.But don't let that deter you if you got links we can all learn from.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:46am On Jul 02, 2017
chkil0:


so from your own source , access to electricity last year in kenya for 2016 is 55% wink 27% in 2013 ,

nigeria was 57.7 % in 2014 , but still the two countries like most african countries are very late in the world .
You are right.Africa is way behind.This thread has exposed a lot.Do you still have rural areas in Algeria that aren't connected?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:52am On Jul 02, 2017
chkil0:


so from your own source , access to electricity last year in kenya for 2016 is 55% wink 27% in 2013 ,

nigeria was 57.7 % in 2014 , but still the two countries like most african countries are very late in the world .

in africa when you see stats for access to electricity in 2014 , their is only 7 or 8 country that do well : South africa 86.0% ,Gabon 89.5 % , Morocco 91.6%, Libya 98.4%, Tunisia 99.8 % , Egypt 99.8% , Algeria 100%

In another four years, Kenya plans to achieve “universal access” where 95% of homes will have access to electricity. So no biggie

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MtuMsuper: 10:53am On Jul 02, 2017
Bifwoli:

Eish ,thats a very short sighted view my friend.Is the drought (and food shortages) ravaging parts of east africa ,Yemen and other places political also? How's a team laser focused on electioneering ,court cases on elections and nonstop politicking gonna actualize your aspirations when their key focus the last 5yrs has been their own aspirations of gaining/sharing power ? (i can tell you for a fact their manifesto is just an after thought) Tell me their legislative successes ,voter-centered projects to their name ,any serious livelihood-centered changes they sought and visions over their long careers in parliament
Bifwoli, you're just being economical with the truth.
First off, my observations and reality on the ground viz. corn shortage and higher food prices cannot be ignored. Month on month, they're rising. And now you think that's not something to discuss? The smart folks at kilimo house surely should have had contingency to mitigate the obvious impending shortage but they're not managing things ad hoc. Is that good governance. I have an engineer friend who's closely linked to the galana kulalu project and he tells me that there is alot of mismanagement in both technical and operations point of view. The project failed in its objective which was to plug maize shortages, and failed miserably. Now precious forex is enriching Zambian and Tanzanian farmers and traders. Is that not a fiasco? Ps: We live in a high tech age, just because your neighbors suffer shortages doesn't mean we should!

Second, i doubt if you have ever lived in the 90s era to appreciate some of the civil and basic rights like seeking legal redress for perceived and real breach of the same to rejoice in seeing leaders of the opposition engage in legal proceedings that baba Moi would have sent you to detention w/out trial for. I envy our democracy, and i love seeing people come out and practice their CONSTITUTIONAL rights, and not fall in the oh well! mediocrity that the masses have fallen into.

Third, the essence of a political party is to have a vehicle that you use to sell your ideas to the citizenry, in order to attain power. They are not responsible for development, the state is. But the state must actuate the policy and vision of the ruling party. As an opposition party, you don't have the levers of power, nor the purse strings, so you can't be responsible for any mess that the government makes. So they have to get into power first! Look at Nigeria for instance, the APC has failed dismally in correcting the mess of the PDP, their pre election "politicking "(please tell us your meaning of this word) notwithstanding. They simply rode a wave, but had no clue about what to do about it. I say without any equivocation that jubilee rode to power on anti ICC wave, but had no idea what to do with corruption and let's face it, they weren't so keen on devolution. The result is massive discontent in vast swathes of the country who feel left out. Yes, this is why NASA will always be there.

Fourth, i think you know very well that our parliament is a place where laws are made. That's the primary role of the legislature. By pressuring your MP to give you development, you drive the gears of corruption whereby bwan MP is forced to look for funds to help your project. Several MPs have had tonnes of projects in their constituencies, you just seem to fall into some bizarre trap that alot folks like falling into which is you start by making a false assertion then you repeat it ad infinitum till it begins to sound like the truth. And the falsity here being that not a single leader of the opposition has done anything worthwhile in their official /personal capacities to uplift Kenya /Kenyans.Gov Nanok for instance has done tremendous work in raising the pry school enrollment of kids in turkana nearly 100% fold since his ascent. The govt leaning press will not allow you to hear this, lest they destroy the carefully crafted narrative that says opposition hawana maendeleo.

Fifth, mega projects tend to have a booster effect on the macro economy within the medium and long term. In the short term, they obviously boost the local economy for the duration of a project, but how they lift people in the immediate vicinity is mostly a heart rending story. Did you know most people living near Masinga dam, sondu miriu hydro tunnel etc have no electricity but my comfy butt in Nairobi does?

More later.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:54am On Jul 02, 2017
mtis:

Lay down the pipe bruh..whatever ya smoking not good grin

Pls,tell me where I lied or exaggerated.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:59am On Jul 02, 2017
kikuyu1:


Pls,tell me where I lied or exaggerated.
Calling Obama homo..not fair bro..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:01am On Jul 02, 2017
obaaderemi:
You are right.Africa is way behind.This thread has exposed a lot.Do you still have rural areas in Algeria that aren't connected?
All countries have rural areas.......rural doesn't mean you don't have electricity.

South Africa is set to have universal electricity for all its citizens by 2025.....well that's the goal anyway!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:04am On Jul 02, 2017
obaaderemi:
You are right.Africa is way behind.This thread has exposed a lot.Do you still have rural areas in Algeria that aren't connected?

no in algeria access to electricity is 100% ,so even rural areas have electricty , now they work on Natural Gas for all homes and the connection of the rural area to the natural gas network , population access to Natural Gas in Algeria was 59% in 2015 ( including rural areas)

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:12am On Jul 02, 2017
mtis:


In another four years, Kenya plans to achieve “universal access” where 95% of homes will have access to electricity. So no biggie

yes , in the futur , wink , in 4 years ( 2020), plans to achieve , will have .... just shared the true real actual 2016 stats from your post

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:15am On Jul 02, 2017
Kenya a small beautiful E African country with no natural resources to brag about but yet kicking butt..one of the few African countries showing potential .no fcking religious fanatism like north ..no freaking crazy stuff like West(naija )..No fvk exploitation like central (Congo)..just nice country grin grin

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