johnw74:



The verse is talking about God exalting the man Jesus, how does God exalting Jesus and giving Him a name above every other name, mean that the Word is not equal with God as scriptures show He is?
come back now you hear

a bit to many ha ha's there ac, you appear to be bordering on hysteria,
that can happen mocking the Lord and Saviour as you do.




well of course continued confusion from you ac hor ladey, it seems all you have,
continued confusion - mumbo jumbo to deny God's word that shows "the Word is equal to the Father":

Php 2:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 
Php 2:7  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Joh 5:18  Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.




And in your continued confusion and mumbo jumbo ac, you still deny the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ:

Joh_4:42  And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

Php_3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

2Pe_1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


I give scriptures showing that the word is equal to the Father, and I give scriptures showing that Jesus is indeed the Lord and Saviour,
you ac don't believe God's word and give confusion and mumbo jumbo in your denial of God's word and in your denial that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour
of course confusion and mumbo jumbo is what comes from denying God's word and the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
you prove that in your every post.

Barristter07:





Very hilarious statement though , You can't be subordinate to your equal . Absorb that

Since you agree with the scriptures that Jesus is subordinate to His God, Am okay with that






Same way Jesus is subordinate to His Father



We are both humans, But definitely Not equal



Angels have the nature of God ( Spirit being John 4:24) They are all Spirits .

Hairyrapunzel:


So you are saying Satan has divine nature?
Whether you like it or not Paul said Jesus is God in that verse.
Don't say what's not in the Bible. Do you know the implication of what you said?

Hairyrapunzel:



You and your boss both have different roles at work but you are both human beings
Angels are not in nature God. They don't possess the divine nature.

There is only one true God

achorladey:

I have been waiting for you to quote this scripture, my prayer answered definitely.
Do you believe what the Jews said here about Jesus your personal Lord and Saviour ........
Joh 5:18  Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, [b]making himself equal with God
Do you believe what Jesus your personal Lord and Saviour said here about the same Jews ..........
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
If I am a student of yours, whose word would you want me to believe(that of the Jews or Jesus christ or both). Note, Whatever you choose for me tells me the kind of person you are. Chose wisely or run from the question as usual.

achorladey:

JESUS SAID SO AS WELL JOHN 17:3. what do you think? Psalms 83:18 says that only true God is the most high all over all.

achorladey:

Wetin concern me with divine nature, you start from nature, now you don enter divine nature. Divine nature ko undivine nature ni. You want start to qualify nature nw, oya start. Tell me the implications, I wan hear you

Hairyrapunzel:


You see yourself didn't you make wrong assumption that the nature of God and the nature of Satan is spirit?

Hairyrapunzel:


Read the Bible well. you remind me of the Jews wanting to kill Jesus because they said Jesus said he was God which to them that was blasphemy
And You tell us it is blasphemy when we say Jesus is God and Jesus is our personal Lord and savior.

achorladey:

Tell us the nature of Satan. I know you have the knowledge about him as well.

Hairyrapunzel:


See how you are moving from pillar to goalpost is it not you that mentioned Satan in trying to explain y Paul made his statement in phil 2:6?

achorladey:

Oga if you can't answer the question don't bother to quote. Wetin I use the Devil in my explanation still dey that post go and read it. It is still there.

achorladey:

JESUS SAID SO AS WELL JOHN 17:3. what do you think? Psalms 83:18 says that only true God is the most high all over all.

Hairyrapunzel:



You and your boss both have different roles at work but you are both human beings
Angels are not in nature God. They don't possess the divine nature.

There is only one true God

Hairyrapunzel:


Same Divine nature

Hairyrapunzel:


For me Jesus is God and you are thought to believe Jesus is a god. we both agree that there is only one true God.

Since you believe Jesus is a god then what kind of God is he? A true or a false God?

Hairyrapunzel:


Using the satan explanation not in the Bible to support your argument About Jesus not being God.
See your comment below

Let me help you reason well, let's assume Jesus is equal with God(definitely Jesus was not) would it be right for Jesus to entertain such thought of taken advantage of his equality with God? What will he(Jesus) gain from taking such advantage since they are equal? Will it be necessary for Jesus to seek God's consent to be restored back to a position he humbly dropped? Or why will God need to exalt him to a position he(Jesus) humbly relinquished? That Satan took advantage of being in God's form or nature made him any better than his creator? See that scripture in its proper sense.

see how you put in satan explanation something not in the Bible to ask your questions

And the way you ask questions are not good instead of asking questions directly you tend to make suggestions on what the person is to answer while ending the statement with question mark. I think It's being deceitful

Well I won't assume my beliefs are not based on assumptions from the Bible rather from the Bible itself. If Jesus had a problem with people calling him God or giving him accolades given to God he would have told them to stop and told them he wasn't God that they should stop. Don't ask me to assume. But just know that you just told me your beliefs are based on assumptions

Like I said read the whole chapter and get a real grasp of what the chapter means. You are quoting out of context and btw that Paul said that Jesus being in very nature God, but did not consider himself equal as the father doesn't mean Jesus is not God.
Paul even acknowledged Jesus Christ as God

Barristter07:
Johnw74




@ captivator is right, Jesus spoke of His Father as His God and our God (John 20:17) If His Father being our God means he is Superior to us , Same applies to Jesus going by John 20:17 quoted earlier .

Barristter07:



Father and Son are not equal ( John 14:28)

Barristter07:
achorladey



Thank you for the bold part in the above post, If they are indeed equal, Exalting him should have make him Greater than God

Barristter07:

achorladey




Logical , Even the context doesn't support their submission.

Barristter07:
saintmark88




Very hilarious statement though , You can't be subordinate to your equal . Absorb that

Barristter07:
saintmark88




Angels have the nature of God ( Spirit being John 4:24) They are all Spirits .

achorladey:

I have been waiting for you to quote this scripture, my prayer answered definitely.
Do you believe what the Jews said here about Jesus your personal Lord and Saviour ........
Joh 5:18  Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God
[b]Do you believe what Jesus your personal Lord and Saviour said here about the same Jews ..........
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
If I am a student of yours, whose word would you want me to believe(that of the Jews or Jesus christ or both). Note, Whatever you choose for me tells me the kind of person you are. Chose wisely or run from the question as usual.

Hairyrapunzel:


Read the Bible well. you remind me of the Jews wanting to kill Jesus because they said Jesus said he was God which to them that was blasphemy
And You tell us it is blasphemy when we say Jesus is God and Jesus is our personal Lord and savior.

Barristter07:


Hairyrapunzel



Still a very illogical assertion,

Barristter07:

Are you aware that humans will be Partakers of the DIVINE NATURE ? ( 2 Pet 1:4) Does this mean they are equal to God ?

Barristter07:

Hairyrapunzel



The same Divine nature that Humans will have ? ( 2 Pet 1:4 ) Hehehehehe , a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. Do you agree that those humans are equal to God ?

achorladey:

What a question!!!! You don't have to stoop so low to ask such a question. You can go and ask your personal Lord and Saviour what John 17:3 means after all he(Jesus) was praying to the only true God no be me talk am, Na Jesus talk so for John 17:3

Hairyrapunzel:


For me Jesus is God and you are thought to believe Jesus is a god. we both agree that there is only one true God.

Since you believe Jesus is a god then what kind of God is he? A true or a false God?

achorladey:

You could have given us the nature of Satan, if you can tell us the nature of Jesus christ will that of Satan be difficult? After all the Satan we all know today was created.

alchemist13:
At least Jehovah Witness do not believe in the ridiculous doctrine of the Trinity.

johnw74:



lie lie barristter, saintmark post is a good one, and all you can do is try and twist- lie away the truth

Jesus the "man" is subordinate to Father "God", and with that you deny all the scriptrures showing that "the Word is God",
God(Father) and God((the Word) is God, of course God is equal to God,
but instead of believeing the Bible, you deny it because you cannot understand, not having God's Spirit.

Jesus emptied himself of his divinity, of his equality with God, and became a subordinate man.
As God, God and the Word is equal, of course, but not to Christ deniers, not to antichrists


you don't understand or believe, I know that, bad for you lie lie.

Ignoramus johnw74