BascoVanVeli:


Are u joking? When did I say don't invite him? Abeg correct yourself.

BascoVanVeli:


Pls if anyone should be dropped it should be Etebo . He missed our best chances and offered zero creativity against SA. I can only agree to drop Nacho if the coach wants to punish him for the stunt he pulled.

goldfish80:

If we should be strict in dropping players using the SA game as the yard stick, we will have to drop everyone who wore the green white green shirt on the day and Gernot Rohr with his technical crew will be served their termination letters.

goldfish80:



Perhaps you should clear up what you meant by the bolded.

zicky:
Yea, we are both looking at the same picture but from different angles, iheanacho inability to hold up ball or get a shot at goal was because of the poor midfield, if you put another 9 there this same poor midfield will make this 9 look poor. I hope you grab

BascoVanVeli:

So the whole freakin team is what u felt I meant ehn not the starting line up like u were talking about with Nacho abi?

BascoVanVeli:


I stand by wat I said after the match, Iheanacho was not poor his teammates and coaches were. If Nacho had ran off the field the real question would have been why take out a striker who has not even been given a chance by his teammates. He won his share of duels and even created the best chance we had.

goldfish80:


If Kelechi was not poor and was playing to instructions. Why will Rohr sub him off when the team needed a goal badly? Its not as if Rohr have substituted him before in a game.

goldfish80:

If we had a taller Striker who could battle and win ariel duels, perhaps one of those balls Kelechi didn't even bother to contest in the air will have been won by him which could have set up attacks quicker high up the pitch against a retreating bafana defence.

If we had a better person up to who could hold up play better than Kelechi, he may have set up Etebo or any on rushing midfielder or winger.

The only time Kelechi got his hold up game right, it nearly resulted in a goal.
If he had managed to do this 5 times, you can fill in the blanks...........

goldfish80:

If we had a taller Striker who could battle and win ariel duels, perhaps one of those balls Kelechi didn't even bother to contest in the air will have been won by him which could have set up attacks quicker high up the pitch against a retreating bafana defence.

If we had a better person up to who could hold up play better than Kelechi, he may have set up Etebo or any on rushing midfielder or winger.

The only time Kelechi got his hold up game right, it nearly resulted in a goal.
If he had managed to do this 5 times, you can fill in the blanks...........

zicky:
So the Etebo you prefer over Iheanacho will he contest those high balls or hold the ball better than Iheanacho.

safarigirl:
goldfish has forgotten that Etebo is short.

I feel like some people should stay away from arguments concerning certain players due to their bias.

zicky:
So the Etebo you prefer over Iheanacho will he contest those high balls or hold the ball better than Iheanacho.

Icon4s:


Same person advocating for a "big striker".

safarigirl:
his bias will not even allow him argue in a straight line.

The long and short of his point is "anyone but Iheanacho"

BascoVanVeli:


Come on u are the same guy that has said even Pep makes some bad decisions, so why is it so hard understanding that Rohr screwed up? He got caught up in the moment and made a poor decision.

zicky:
That's what I noticed, anyone but nacho.

forgiveness:


At 1.87m Iheanacho is tall but he doesn't seem to fit into our 4-2-3-1 pattern.

He doesn't have the attributes of a Lone CF.

He can't hold onto play. He can't control well. He's not good on the air. Many more.

We all know Nacho has good vision to set up a through pass (I no weda e still get am) oo and he is a prolific goal scorer (though as a poacher in Man City) hence the need to play him at the position to utilize his ability.

I sorry, he can't play as a lone CF. EOD.

Icon4s:


Same person advocating for a "big striker".

zicky:
And Etebo gat all these attributes. I don't agree when people say nacho don't have control give him the ball on his feet, watch the way he controlled the ball before passing to Etebo or his ball control to beat the zambia keeper.

forgiveness:


Did I suggest Etebor? No

I will rather play a natural CF like Martins, Kayode and Adi against Cameroon. EOD.

On his feat, Nacho can but on the air, I am sorry he is not good enough.

zicky:
the pelzon I quoted said he prefer Etebo to Iheanacho as a false 9. Btw is Kayode or Martins better than Iheanacho on the air?

forgiveness:



That is one of the major part of their strength.

goldfish80:


The decision to pull him out didn't just happen. There was a method to the madness.
The underling fact was that Kelechi was having a bad game hence they thought it wise to pull him off even when the team was a goal down with more than 30mins to play.
Substitutions don't just happen. Rohr must have gone over the decision 5 mins earlier with the bench before making up his mind.

Kelechi is one of his most trusted players. It couldn't have been an easy decision to make,if not that his performance was incredibly poor.

Lazyerudite:
I feel we all watched the match and noticed that most passes were either overhit or undergo. No one is even focusing on our midfield which is very key if we want to win any match. The fact that people just expect a striker to do wonders without a good midfield is surprising to say the least. You can only score if you have the ball.

BascoVanVeli:


Forget the coach tell us where and when he was poor. How can u say a coach was poor then defend just one of his decision? I guess to fit into ur bias.

Lazyerudite:
I feel we all watched the match and noticed that most passes were either overhit or undergo. No one is even focusing on our midfield which is very key if we want to win any match. The fact that people just expect a striker to do wonders without a good midfield is surprising to say the least. You can only score if you have the ball.

Icon4s:


Same team. still SA 0-1 Tan 71'

Dedebanky85:
We shouldn't peddle lies just to press home a point. Here's a link to the SA team list yesterday, tell me anyone you can recognize. But you just responded to this guy "same team".

http://mobi.supersport.com/football/bafana/news/170702/Bafana_lose_to_Tanzania_in_quarters

Truth is that even our strongest squad with Mikel and Co. may be humilated by SA. We just want to fail to realize that they have caught up in terms of having a formidable team.

goldfish80:


Throughout his career. Mourinho have always favoured playing a lone striker. At Inter Milan, he played Ibramovic up front with Balotelli but Balo will always miss games due to his problems. This made Zlatan play mostly alone up front. Even when Zlatan left, Mourinho played Eto on the wings and Milto as the lone forward.

Ivica Olic mostly sat on the bench for Manzukic. When he played, he came in from the wings. I followed Bayern with keen interest at the time. Rewatch their champions league finals against Dortmund and see.

Dedebanky85:
We shouldn't peddle lies just to press home a point. Here's a link to the SA team list yesterday, tell me anyone you can recognize. But you just responded to this guy "same team".

http://mobi.supersport.com/football/bafana/news/170702/Bafana_lose_to_Tanzania_in_quarters

Truth is that even our strongest squad with Mikel and Co. may be humilated by SA. We just want to fail to realize that they have caught up in terms of having a formidable team.

goldfish80:


Defend what decision? If it was a bad decision or not, the bottom line was that in the view of the technical bench, Kelechi was not doing well in the game. I have been saying from day 1,he was lost in the game.
The decision to pull him off could be open to interpretation but the underling fact there was that he had a bad game.

Since Victor Moses is unavailable for the game, advocating for Kelechi to start in the same position is like saying more of the same. If we don't try a different combination up front. We may not earn more than 1 point in both games against these people. God forbid.