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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:55pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Rohr's belief that Kelechi had a poor game was evident with his early substitution . Kelechi admitted he had a poor game , The South African coach Baxter said the Nigerian attack was blunt , Some Nigerian reporters questioned why Kelechi was left on the pitch, they believed he should have been subbed earlier, With my very own eyes, I saw that Kelechi was very poor on the day. You skipped all these points and went to town screaming I'm taking Rohr's word as gospel. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:57pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
jihday: I understand your argument. But for replacement of the yak with Aghahowa remember the period of consideration is for 10 years. Yakubu during this period emerged 2nd highest scoring Super Eagles player of all time. And he was also the highest scoring African player in the EPL before being over taken by Didier Drogba. So I think he deserves the best striker of that decade award. As for Obaobona replacing Balogun, honestly it was a tough one for me to decide between the two. Oboabona had a good spell between 2013 and 2014 but Balogun IMO has a stronger influence on the back line than Obaobona did. However if you say Obaobona deserves the spot I still agree with you. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:58pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s: Virtually nailed it. I do not see what to add. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:03pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: I don't believe that our midfield was over ran. Before South Africa scored,they barely found a way out of their own half. Our midfield dominated so much that the commentators were happy that South Africa held us to a goalless draw at half time. When the team went a goal down,they panicked and lost shape probably due to inexperience. Let's get our facts right. Yes, I still maintain that Etebo could be deployed as a false 9. He started out at Warri wolves as a striker and last season in some Fierence games I followed he played as a striker in the later stages of the league. What he lacks in height, he certainly packs in good measure with strenght and intensity which can take out the Camerounians. Why are you guys afraid of having Kelechi play as a second striker? Is there something I'm not getting? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:03pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: Kelechi had a poor game because our midfield could not give him good service. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend? It will take a multitude to easily spot this watching the game but for days people are echoing the same point and you jump to the had a poor game. Even Suarez will have a poor game with bad services. Please stop the hate campaign. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: No one is scared of Kelechi playing as a second striker. I wonder where you got that from. Kelechi has played as a second striker for Rohr. So no one is scared. Our problem is that we do not have lethal forwards. Even the Etebo you are screaming for missed a golden opportunity to give us the lead when Iheanacho gave him a brilliant chance. That is why Iheanacho leads the line because he is our most lethal striker now. How come everyone gets this but you. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:10pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Can someone confirm if Henry will wear the nine shirt for Anderlecht? That is an interesting development. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:16pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s:(80/89) I will replace Rufai with Emma Okala from the first team. (90/99) The second team basically selects itself. No addition really (99/10) I will replace Babangida with Aghahowa and Yakubu with Obafemi Martins (tough one) (2011 to date) I will swap Leon Balogun with Oboabona and Kelechi with Ikechukwu Uche. *before they call me hater and plunge me into an unnecessary arguement. I don't think it will be right rating players with less than 10 caps and no tournament experience for the senior national team ahead of those with 40+ caps and tournament experience. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:17pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If I may understand what you are thinking, IE he being offered the CF role. He may not necessarily be offered that role even though he wears the 9 jersey. But I would he very delighted if this boy can be modeled into a CF just like what Wenger did to his model Igwe Henry. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:23pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I agree he is the most lethal forward we have now but scoring is just one part of his game. Other aspects of his game which is vital to the formation the team plays is lacking. That is the reason it makes sense playing him as a second striker and get someone to complement his obvious weakness which is ariel dominance and power play like we saw against Zambia when paired with Ideye. You're just being deliberately myopic by tagging me a hater. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:24pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Rohr and the NFF shouldn't jeopardize our chance of making it to the world cup with this their incessant scouting of foreign born Nigerian players. Instead they should focus on building a balanced team now. if we male it to Russia 2018,these same players would be eager to play for us. I won't be surprised if one or two of the England u-20 boys decide to play for us by 2018.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: That is like saying City should not play Aguero upfront because we need aerial dominance or Barcelona should not play Suarez upfront because we need aerial dominance. The point has not changed. Aerial dominance was not the problem against South Africa. Service was the problem. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: Yeah Ikechukwu Uche! I wonder why the name totally escaped my memory. Going back to modify my list sharperly! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s: Precisely. The coach might up to us Henry's skill and pace up front or he might play him wide. We would see how his coach uses him. What excites me is the Henry getting a first team Jersey at Anderlecht. It shows the coach rates him highly. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:31pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s: If Osimhen breaks through this season as I expect and Onyekuru flourishes in Belgium, then we will have a formidable fire power attack force. Iheanacho, Osimhen, Kayode and Henry. I am also expecting a bang from Success. I hope he can put his injuries behind him and Victor Moses is also a dynamite forward. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:36pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
@Chief Icon4s.... From 1980-1989, well I don't think I have the valid in depth knowledge of that era to speak on that generation... but from the much I read, and also saw of certain videos and clips, I wanna ask why you didn't place Emmanuel Okala or Best Ogedengbe as the Goalie for that era. From 1990-1999, I think you nailed that one. ![]() From 2000-2009, I think it is almost perfect too.... But the omission of Martins is kinda debatable shaa. Yakubu and Martins were two of our finest then. From 2010-now, I honestly was surprised to see Kelechi Iheanacho and Leon Balogun on your list..... it is true these are two of our best players now and their records for us speaks volumes of excellence for the most parts buuuuttttt.... Kelechi does not merit a best XI place yet.... he is still rising... still has less than 12 caps... lol Leon also... Truth is they are candidates for the best XI by the end of this current decade if they keep this up (Kelechi could also feature in the era of 2020-2030)... but for now... ....I will place Ikechukwu Uche instead of Iheanacho... and also go for Oboabona Godfrey instead of Leon ... just for now... This decade is not even over yet... shaa.... By 2020, we will know our best XI of the 2010-2020 era.... looollll But from 2010-2017 so far... Kelechi is a no no for me... Let him play more games and show more impact and lead us to maybe a good world cup showing and the Afcon title in 2019... then we will see about his place in a best XI for us. Same goes for Balogun. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:44pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Man city actually won something when they had smallish strikers up front like Baloteli and Dzeko paired up with Aguero & the dwarf Yaya Toure behind them. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:44pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Now we are back talking Football made in Nigeria.... #AnotherGoldenGeneration loading.... That league of extraordinary hitmen is still very possible Sir GoodJoe. ![]() TheGoodJoe: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:46pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: Rufai IMO is Nigeria's second best. So no way I will place Emma Okala ahead of him. Babangida and Aghahowa do not play the same position. Babangida remains our best winger after the exit of Finidi. Aghahowa should placed in the same comparison basket with Yakubu, Martins and Agali. I stick to Yakubu because of his achievements but at national level and club. Emerging second highest goal scorer for the national team and 2nd highest Scoring African player in the History of EPL, just behind Didier Drogba. I have already swapped Iheanacho with Ike Uche. And also agree about Obaobona replacing Balogun. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:48pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Yes he will.... but it does not automatically translate to him being played as the Top9 shaa ooo.... That may yet be in the plan but time will tell. Will be very interesting I confess. A wing forward he is already and if he is moulded into a dynamic CF... hmmmm.... The lad could be more than something to watch if all goes well. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:51pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: I have modified my list. But Yakubu still tops Martins for me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:51pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s:You listed Rufai twice that was why I replaced him with Emma Okala with the first team. Aghawonder started his national team journey as a right winger. Knowing the fun memories he brought at the time, he was our go to guy for a good number of years. Couldn't just leave him out that's the reason I listed him. Tough choice. Tough choice between Obafemi and Yakubu. Very tough choice. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:54pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: These boys are still young. They still have a lot learn. One or two seasons are not even enough to call them formidable. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:00pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
goldfish80: Peter Rufai made more marks in the national team in the 80s even more than the 90s. His heroics in that era dwarfens that of Okala. Even in the 90s Rufai was still the best though Ike shoromun too was solid. Aghahowa, though started as a winger at U20,all through his Super Eagles days played as a striker and was never played as a winger. Yakubu and Martins achieved more than him as a striker in that era. And based on statistical indices both for club and country Yakubu tops Martins. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:08pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Okay Chief.... And Whosoever you go with between Yakubu and Martins is fine by me... They are literally equals on almost all counts so picking one over the other is same thing. I read an article in HITC like one day ago or so... and They listed Yakubu ahead of Martins in Nigeria's best 15 by recent eras and the past. So it's all good. ![]() Icon4s: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:10pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
He looks to the future naa.... They are all rising gems. And our national team belongs to them now. It is their time so they have to be given the time to grow as individuals and as a team. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:17pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: ....hahahaha go back and read his post. He is talking about if they click this season. Some times I feel that lose to SA was a blessing in disguise for us. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:24pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Looollll.... okay now I get you. Hahahahahahahahaha.... Well, the way I understand it shaa.... he justs hopes they all light up their leagues this season and translate some of that to the national team to begin forging what will be eventually referred to as a formidable attack line in the long run (going forward)... I saw the post in the light of the near-future and long-term future of the team. What we have now is a promising attack but not formidable. P.S: And yes Chief... that loss is a blessing. Really I am glad it came now. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s: Anelka was young before he became known as formidable. Same with Djibril Cisse and Trezeguet. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:26pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
Icon4s: Thomas Nkono with Emma Okala were the best African goalkeepers of that era. Dont forget Emma Okala was the first gK to win an Afcon. You listed the other 2 but not him. Check am na I maybe tempted to swap Yakubu with Aghahowa. It will be difficult to leave out Julius. He was the go to guy for the team for a good number of years. More reliable than anyone we had from 2000 till date. With him in the team you know there is hope irrespective of the opponent. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:29pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Mark my words not all of those players he lined up will end up being part of the 'formidable' attack he is talking about . Some other players may still likely spring up and some of those on that his list will get relegated from that attack. That is football. It keeps happening over and over and over. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:31pm On Jul 04, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: This is Nigeria we are talking about and not France. |
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