Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,174,695 members, 7,892,771 topics. Date: Wednesday, 17 July 2024 at 05:15 PM

Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) - Foreign Affairs (1298) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) (6351802 Views)

Am I The Only One Whos Tired Of This Kenya Is Ahead Thread / Femi Adesina: "I Don't Lie, No Matter What"; Nigerians React / Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (1295) (1296) (1297) (1298) (1299) (1300) (1301) ... (9933) (Go Down)

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 10:27am On Jul 07, 2017
Algerian1:


the source is the UN united nations organisation , the UNODC , United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime so not t some unknown or unrecognized organization wink https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/about-unodc/index.html?ref=menutop

and again im sure that countries on the the list like ( South Africa , DRC , Uganda , Nigeria , Ethiopia ,Tanzania ,. Sudan , Kenya ,Egypt , Algeria , Morocco ect... ) are not a jungle without born , death registers and polices services like you think



Thanks .I will check out your think.

You are jumping the gun there soldier, no one said countries without proper data are jungles. The concern is that there are countries who have computerized data capturing systems in all their police stations and hospitals and we can't hide the fact that in the continent there are still more without these facilities. So my question is , how accurate is the data from a town/ village with no good functioning hospital/ police station? And again there are still countries with no clear data on how many they really are. Perhaps when I go through your link some of the questions will be answered.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:14am On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Na you wan buy Gun for am?
Guns will come from Russia, Israel, etc Of course in exchange for oil fields after the war grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 11:24am On Jul 07, 2017
Algerian1:


what ? i m sur all countries on the list have register of born , and declaration of death and police services that know the number of Intentional Homicide stats wink
Got to argue with how accurate they are as well, after all TIA(This is Africa), Chkil wink

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kirigidi(m): 11:45am On Jul 07, 2017
9jakool:



It's an online database that's constantly updated as the status of the languages change. You simply cannot cite a database like a book. The last updated date of ethnologue is 2016 as they do yearly updates.
Here is the reference list Ethnologue cited for India:
Bradley 1997, Bradley 2005, Breton 1997, Campbell and King 2011, Hugoniot 1970, Marrison 1967, Masica 1991, Matisoff et al 1996, Singh 1994a, Singh 1994b, Singh 1995a, Singh 1995b, Van Bik 2006, Van Driem 2001, Van Driem 2007

For Nigeria:
Bendor-Samuel and Hartell 1989, Blench 1992, Blench 2003, Blench 2011, Blench 2015, Campbell and King 2011, Connell 1994, Crozier and Blench 1992, Dimmendaal and Voeltz 2007, Hansford et al 1976, Hon et al 2014, Nengel 1999

Now back to you, I'm still awaiting that source for your figures for India.

Negro comes from the Latin word for black, so it's good that you've addressed that.
Thanks for clarifying yours! Here are my sources: [1] Mallikarjun, B. (5 August 2002) "Mother Tongues of India According to the 1961 Census",
Languages of India. M. S. Thirumalai. ISSN 1930-2940. [2] Zvelebilin H. Kloss & GD. McConnel; "Constitutional Languages". p240, Presses Universite Laval, 1 Jan. 1989. ISBN2-7637-71866. [3] Naheed Saba (18 Se. 2013) "Multilingualism". Linguistic Heterogeneity and Multilingualism in India: Linguistic Assessment of Indian Language Policies (PDF). Algarh. Aligarh Muslim University. pp. 61-68. [4] Pandharipande, Rajeshuwari (2002). "Minority Matters: Issues in Minority Languages in India" (PDF). International Journal on Multicultural Societies. 4 (2): 3-4. [5] www.censusindia.gov.In/Census_Data_2001/India_at_glance/popu">http://.www.censusindia.gov.In/Census_Data_2001/India_at_glance/popu|.aspx. [6] "India: Languages". Encyclopedia Britannica. [7] Constitution of India (as at Dec. 2007) PDF. "The Constitution of India". Ministry of Law & Justice. Archived from the original (PDF) on Sep. 2014. [8] Ishtiaq, M. (1999)." Language Shifts Among the Scheduled Tribes in India: A Geographical Study". Delhi: Motilal Banarsidass Publishers. pp. 26-27. ISBN 9788120816176. [9] Thomas Benedikter (2009). "Language Policy and Linguistic Minorities in India: An Appraisal of the Linguistic Rights of Minorities in India". LIT. Verlag Munster. pp. 32-35. ISBN978-3643-10231-7. [10] H Kloss & GD. McConnell,
"Constitutional Languages". p. 239, Presses Universite Laval, 1 Jan. 1989. ISBN2-7637-7186-6. [11] "Report of the Commission for Linguistic Minorities": 50th Report (July 2012 to June 2013)(PDF). Commissioner for Linguistic Minorities, Ministry of Minority Affairs, Government of India. Archived from the original (PDF) on 8 July 2016. Other sources are: [12] "National Commission for Scheduled Tribes". Government of India. Archived from the original on 14-01-2012. [13] "List of Notified Scheduled Tribes" (PDF). Census India. p. 27. Archived from the original (PDF) on 7 November 2013. [from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]. In fact, [14] "Census of India 1961" identified 1,652 mother tongues or languages been used in India. [15] "Census of India 1991" identified 1,576 mother tongues with separate grammatical structures. [16] "Census India 2001" identified 1,721 languages in India. Out of which 122 are major languages belonging to the majority of people in India and other 1,599 belonging to smaller societies, local groups, tribes and interior areas. Also, according to the findings of "People's Linguistic Survey of India" launched in 2010 and conducted by 3500 volunteers including language experts, historians and staff of Bhasha Research and Publication Centre [Vadodara], there are 1,100 spoken languages in India as at 1961. They further discovered that nearly 220 languages have disappeared while 880 languages are still in use in India. And over the past 50 years India has lost about 250 languages. [https://www.readmeindia.com/how-many-languages-in-india/] The credible sources are so numerous that I have to pick out these few to bring to your attention. Obviously, in term of multiplicity or diversity of spoken languages, Nigeria is no match compared to India!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 11:47am On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

Guns will come from Russia, Israel, etc Of course in exchange for oil fields after the war grin




They will only give weapons if they know that he stands a chance of winning which as of now is next to zero.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 12:16pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

Guns will come from Russia, Israel, etc Of course in exchange for oil fields after the war grin



What oil fields are you talking about for God's sake? You don't even know much about this topic.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


They will only give weapons if they know that he stands a chance of winning which as of now is next to zero.

They may not win but they are capable of causing so much disturbance that the county becomes ungovernable.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:04pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:


They may not win but they are capable of causing so much disturbance that the county becomes ungovernable.

What is going to be the benefit of the foreign nations who are supporting then?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


What is going to be the benefit of the foreign nations who are supporting then?
The black market I guess. War is a business you know. Guns, ammunition , oil, food etc grin Syria is turning people into billionaires by the minute right now,











#To this other freshest guy ----->>>>(don't quote me again freshest4live concerning oil angry Get a job sad )
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:17pm On Jul 07, 2017
[quote author=Muafrika2 post=58218108]
The black market I guess. War is a business you know. Guns, ammunition , oil, food etc grin Syria is turning people into billionaires by the minute right now,

Na who go give them the money to pay for all these weapons? Support for Kanu is weak among the elite and the economy of Igbo land is not based on extractive industry where you can quickly acquire ammunition buy selling stolen crude. Nnamdi Kanus support is because of the animal Buhari who divided Nigeria in his earliest presidential chats.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:27pm On Jul 07, 2017
[quote author=Maduawuchukwu post=58218318][/quote]
Its not that complicated. Rwanda somehow got truck loads of machettes that were used to kill Tutsis at a moments notice. Just think of people like Kony, Garang, who have been fighting wars lasting decades. There is always a way. Nigeria's is worse off with the open sahel and the instability of Libya, etc. I think the place will probably get their supplies from the East - Cameroon, Congo(trouble) ----- and as far East as it takes.

There is no war worth mentioning which lacks the US on one side(of the rebels mostly) and Russia on the government side.

There are also people, Nigerians in this case, who for their own self preservation, will fund. The problem will not be weapons.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:35pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

Its not that complicated. Rwanda somehow got truck loads of machettes that were used to kill Tutsis at a moments notice. Just think of people like Kony, Garang, who have been fighting wars lasting decades. There is always a way. Nigeria's is worse off with the open sahel and the instability of Libya, etc. I think the place will probably get their supplies from the East - Cameroon, Congo(trouble) ----- and as far East as it takes.

There is no war worth mentioning which lacks the US on one side(of the rebels mostly) and Russia on the government side.

There are also people, Nigerians in this case, who for their own self preservation, will fund. The problem will not be weapons.

Hmmm. but any insurgency has elements for success without which it will fritter out like maitasine and many other insurgencies. I do not see success for Nnamdi Kanu except Buhari and the northern establishment further pushes the Igbo to him. As far as Osibanjo continues his peace building efforts Kanus support will fall.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by realjoker(m): 3:04pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

Guns will come from Russia, Israel, etc Of course in exchange for oil fields after the war grin



And the western nations, China and Brazil who are the major stakeholders in Nigeria oil industry will be watching like mannequin?
Russia is the largest producer of Energy in the world, what will be their interest in Nigeria oil which they have in abundance and even seeking for foreign investors to invest in?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 3:05pm On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Hmmm. but any insurgency has elements for success without which it will fritter out like maitasine and many other insurgencies. I do not see success for Nnamdi Kanu except Buhari and the northern establishment further pushes the Igbo to him. As far as Osibanjo continues his peace building efforts Kanus support will fall.
I also think we can use this opportunity to fight for a form of regional Government. This is why folks like Nnamdi kanu are relevant, and come once in a while to put pressure on the Government. We are under utilizing our potential, and we have to change this system of Government that has not worked now for about 47 years.
The south east Biafrans, the oil rich south south, the south west, the middle belt, and reasonable core northerners must come together to fight for a form of resource control with about 40% contribution from all regions to Abuja. We could use kanu's agitation to put pressure on APC for restructuring now that Bubu is away.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 3:18pm On Jul 07, 2017
freshest4live:

I also think we can use this opportunity to fight for a form of regional Government. This is why folks like Nnamdi kanu are relevant, and come once in a while to put pressure on the Government. We are under utilizing our potential, and we have to change this system of Government that has not worked now for about 47 years.
The south east Biafrans, the oil rich south south, the south west, the middle belt, and reasonable core northerners must come together to fight for a form of resource control with about 40% contribution from all regions to Abuja. We could use kanu's agitation to put pressure on APC for restructuring now that Bubu is away.

Yeah. That is one funny thing in human affairs. Figures like Kanu are the ones who drive society to effect change. The media and some folks have already latched unto this Nnamdi Kanu situation to demand restructuring and Osibanjo said that the government will roll out some measures as regards restructuring. Let us see how far Osibanjo will go.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:47pm On Jul 07, 2017
realjoker:
And the western nations, China and Brazil who are the major stakeholders in Nigeria oil industry will be watching like mannequin?
Russia is the largest producer of Energy in the world, what will be their interest in Nigeria oil which they have in abundance and even seeking for foreign investors to invest in?
Insert your country of choice in the "etc"
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:58pm On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Hmmm. but any insurgency has elements for success without which it will fritter out like maitasine and many other insurgencies. I do not see success for Nnamdi Kanu except Buhari and the northern establishment further pushes the Igbo to him. As far as Osibanjo continues his peace building efforts Kanus support will fall.
True. There are losses to make in any war, and the traditional rulers and upper class Nigerians who have business interests, government jobs, would prefer peace. Such people, especially traditional rulers are also trusted and probably hold more sway with the masses. Do any support him?

Am curious as to why the government is not touching him. And am not talking about a court procedure. Who is he that he's getting away with all these - incitement, disregard to court orders, threats to national security, etc etc. Is he related to a former coup leader?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by realjoker(m): 5:21pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

Insert your country of choice in the "etc"
like I earlier stated. I don't want to join you on this back and forth petty arguments, name callings or slandering.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 5:27pm On Jul 07, 2017
TayserMahiri:


Hati13 and Ednite, what is the difference between your wars and our wars?

Do you guys have a war?? Of what type?
Kinda like racial problem?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 07, 2017
realjoker:
like I earlier stated. I don't want to join you on this back and forth petty arguments, name callings or slandering.
You must be confusing me with someone else undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by realjoker(m): 5:58pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

You must be confusing me with someone else undecided
"You", I mean all of you, I am not referring to a particular person
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jul 07, 2017
realjoker:
"You", I mean all of you, I am not referring to a particular person
Ahah undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 6:23pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

True. There are losses to make in any war, and the traditional rulers and upper class Nigerians who have business interests, government jobs, would prefer peace. Such people, especially traditional rulers are also trusted and probably hold more sway with the masses. Do any support him?

Am curious as to why the government is not touching him. And am not talking about a court procedure. Who is he that he's getting away with all these - incitement, disregard to court orders, threats to national security, etc etc. Is he related to a former coup leader?
Nnamdi Kanu was just released from prison after a 2 year detention which saw his popularity rise. The government does not want to make him a martyr. They are hoping for a political solution likely. Also arresting him is further going to strain Nigeria as worse offenders than him like some herdsmen who kill people in their farms are walking about freely.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:02pm On Jul 07, 2017
[quote author=Maduawuchukwu post=58218318][/quote]
the fact that nnamdi kanu fulfilled his "draconian" bail conditions shows that he has considerable support among igbo elites (you needn't see his personal motorcade to know).
The guys philosophy is also gradually encroaching into south eastern universities.The only setback the fed government can latch onto, is the dichotomy between igbos who has strong roots to the east and south south, and the igbo who doesn't.
the method of warfare has vastly changed. boko Haram and the Niger delta militants showed that getting arms is now very easy (the missing armouries of many African armies is some where in circulation-besides, the technology behind such aren't restricted anymore).
The good thing about this kanu situation , is that issues normally swept under the carpet in Nigeria, is now every day discussion. I only hope the Feds see the writing on the wall and save Nigeria before its too late.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jul 07, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:

Nnamdi Kanu was just released from prison after a 2 year detention which saw his popularity rise. The government does not want to make him a martyr. They are hoping for a political solution likely. Also arresting him is further going to strain Nigeria as worse offenders than him like some herdsmen who kill people in their farms are walking about freely.
This is why I think Nigeria has greater freedom of expression than most African democracies. I think he wasn't ever a politician when he started this.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jul 07, 2017
Muafrika2:

This is why I think Nigeria has greater freedom of expression than most African democracies. I think he wasn't ever a politician when he started this.
no, he was smart enough to build up massive discipleship in London before coming back to Nigeria. Fulani herdsmen (the current president tribe) attack allover the country,the skyrocketing cost of living and alleged marginalization, made the guy sort of became a rallying call for Nigeria's 3rd biggest tribe .ipob rallies/sit at home was also getting international coverage (especially after tangible proof of the military extrajudicial killings of ipobites) .Nigeria is in such a tribal tension that a little bit of shove might deteriorate into the tribal massacres pre Civil war.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:33pm On Jul 07, 2017
Quick Facts.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:35pm On Jul 07, 2017
QUICK FACTS.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:40pm On Jul 07, 2017
Quick FACTS.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:44pm On Jul 07, 2017
Quick Facts.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 11:48pm On Jul 07, 2017
Quick Facts.

1 Like

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by freshest4live: 11:54pm On Jul 07, 2017
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/playlist%3Flist%3DPLkxfG2ZWQF1DHUCJTqnGqNqyzKe2uV3TS&ved=0ahUKEwiLjeSqofjUAhVDLFAKHRIICO44ChAWCCowBQ&usg=AFQjCNH3iZMbffIGuZVOIx-3A9rFNEYOhg
This is Nollywood's wedding party. Funny dance steps from 1hr.32 mins, in the video. The dance steps also from 46 mins and the pastor's prayer at 1.01hr. Enjoy.

(1) (2) (3) ... (1295) (1296) (1297) (1298) (1299) (1300) (1301) ... (9933)

Viewing this topic: 5 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 67
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.