Greatihex:
yes, there is a problem at the club. Bt, we all chose to blame mou for all the guys that left the club during his time, claiming that he does nt like youth. He did nt gv them chance etc. Why are we nt doing the same nw?

Kindly be specific about the players so we can be clear on which to agree or disagree on bcuz that fvcktard did destroy the chances of alot of players in CFC.

Greatihex:
what do you mean by it is nt conte's fault. Conte is signing a certain bakayoko that wl ensure that Nathan gets his ass glued to the bench with fabregas nd matic still around. How wl u expect the boy to play.

There is a word called 'competition'.

sinizia:


Please spare us of this annoying and boring excuse which is borne out of hate and jealousy for our success not facts. You hate United for her success not because we inflated the transfer market.

Normally when Hensben goes about displaying this sorta ignorance -he's the one always blaming United from thread to thread- I ignore him because his football reasoning is very low, but when a supposedly intelligent poster like you displays such ignorance, I wonder how you let hate get better of you so easily. It's okay to hate United, I hate Chelshit too, but being objective shouldn't hurt you that much.

Right from the 70s to the 80s, to the 90s down to the 20s, football record have been broken and been on the rise. It had nothing to do with United ALONE. The records broken in those decades have been broken by many clubs, and have gone from when 500k was a world record to when 1m was a world record. If you do a through search, you'll see when 50k was probably a world record.

Do you know that The first ever three-figure transfer fee was the £100 paid by Aston Villa in 1893 for Willie Groves? Eleven years later, Alf Common joined Middlesbrough for the first ever four-figure fee, a sum which caused a national sensation and outrage amongst the football authorities. The £5,000 mark was first reached in 1922 when Falkirk paid that amount for West Ham United's Syd Puddefoot , and six years later Arsenal paid the first ever £10,000 fee to acquire David Jack of Bolton Wanderers . After the Second World War, the spending power of clubs in mainland Europe outstripped that of British clubs for the first time, resulting in several substantial jumps in the transfer record. John Charles became the first British player to command a fee of £50,000 when he joined Juventus in 1957, and four years later Denis Law joined Torino in the first £100,000 transaction involving a British club.


I'm sure Pogba's deal was the reason David Jack was transferred for a world record fee when Arsenal paid £10,890 to Bolton for his services, after Bolton had asked for £13,000, which was double the previous record made when Sunderland signed Burnley 's Bob Kelly a fee of for £6,500. Yes o, Pogba in 2017 was the reason for that record in over 30 years ago. Clap for yourself.

Yes, United were the club that bought those players for a record fee, abi? Blame it on United because you're envious of their success, that's what haters do all the time.

United were the one that paid a record fee of 15m for Shearer? United were the club that paid a record fee for a goalkeeper when Juve bought Buffon, right? Because United is the surname of Juventus. United were the ones that created the Galactico spending, based on paying huge fees for the best players out there back then. United were the ones that paid huge sum of €69m for Ibrahimovic. United were the one that paid a world record fee for Kaka And another one for Ororo in ONE transfer window. United were the one that paid a record fee for Bale, abi. If the truth about Neymar's are revealed including all the bribes given, we'll be looking at almost a 100mil deal. Yes, Neymar plays for United, abi?

I'm not done yet. Where was this your wish for Chelshit to be burned down and destroyed when Abrahimovic came into the game and bought the likes of Essien, Drogba and Co for huge fees back then, contributing majorly to the madness in this transfer window? Oh, your hypocrisy blinded you from that fact? No, wait a minute. When Chelshit sold Luiz for a record fee to PSG, can you show us your post condemning it, o ye righteous one?!! It's okay for Chelsea to sell players for huge fees abi, but when asked to pay for a huge fee you blame United. Typical Shekpe fan. Can you show us your post condemning the sell of Oscar for a Chinese record? Yeah, I'm sure you're in a coma when that deal happened. When Wengay was complaining about the money Shekpe and City were spending, I'm sure you weren't born then.

Chelshit will be burned down first for their contribution to this madness before we get relegated.

*In P. Diddy's voice* You jealous motherphuckas!!

Mate, have some tea. WTF? On top one sentence?

Who the fvck is sanctioning the deals this summer? What's the wholesome dispensing with homegrown talent about? Who is taking their spots? Are we buying a dozen players?

Chalobah for £5m ? I am freaking incensed.

Greatihex:
why aren't you blaming it on conte, like hw we all blame mou for the ones that happened under him?

double standards sir.
Ake, Traore, Cholabah Sold.

Aina, Cheek loaned. Baker could be next.




Well, Emenalo doesn't want them

So which players go fill this HG quota?

Matic fit stay oo

Nihilist:


70m should be buying solid experience, even in this bloated market.

Belotti is too much of an unknown quantity to be purchased for anywhere near the figures quoted. I find it funny how you're talking about Belotti being 23 and being a better candidate. Lukaku is 24 and has significant local and European experience, as well as over 120 career goals to boast of...but you weren't considering his young age and capacity to improve when you kept announcing that no big club will buy him.

If age is a factor, then we already have a 33m pound 23 year old striker on our books, who can possibly improve in the long run, while we get an experienced striker in right now.

There's no logical justification for a belotti transfer...especially at that price

I say no to Belotti

Firstly, I did state categorically that only Ronaldo level talent should worth that amount.

Secondly, we've been through this Lukaku thingy. It doesn't matter that he is 24, he lacks the fundamental requirements to take us to the next level. We've come a long way in our building. At least for once, the rhetoric of sexy football doesn't winning matches is dead forever.

Jam body football is gone. I hate to see us spend £80m to bring it back.

nateevs:


Firstly, I did state categorically that only Ronaldo level talent should worth that amount.

Secondly, we've been through this Lukaku thingy. It doesn't matter that he is 24, he lacks the fundamental requirements to take us to the next level. We've come a long way in our building. At least for once, the rhetoric of sexy football doesn't winning matches is dead forever.

Jam body football is gone. I hate to see us spend £80m to bring it back.

So Lukaku with a proven goal scoring record lacks fundamentals, but Belotti with one good season in a relatively weak season does?

Pull the other one mate.

I don't understand what you mean by Jambody football is gone. It's almost as if you didn't watch us last season.

Anyway, your opinion is your opinion. My opinion is that your opinion is wrong...then again, nobody asked me.

Currently we have 4 homegrown players with a squad number (Victor moses, Cahill , Fabregas and Musonda). Only Musonda is from our academy, we still need 1 player from the academy ( maybe Baker or Clarke-salter)


3 spots empty. Make i just dey watch

diggz:


Kindly be specific about the players so we can be clear on which to agree or disagree on bcuz that fvcktard did destroy the chances of alot of players in CFC.

is there a single one of them that left during mou's time that we dnt blame mou for? You are the one who shld tell us a player that left the club then that we dnt blame mou for.

09/10 with Carlo as the coach we played some good football with players like ballack,malouda,lampard ,drogba,zhirkov, anelka,mikel,joe Cole,deco, kalou,alex ,terry,cech etc

I still remember the demolishing of villa in SB. Good days....

Griffon:


There is a word called 'competition'.

where is the competition there.
Nathan's case is like that of a gladiator that is sent out to fight against three soldiers with sword without being given a sword.
Nathan did nt hv a sword to fight against fab and matic with swords, and you are bringing a bakayoko with another sword [£40m and UCL semifinal] for him to fight against. Where is the competition there?

Mourinho binned yoot and most of them are still at his throat,even after donkey years.

Conte doing same and the tone has changed to 'who is responsible for this?'

Lool

Griffon:
Tiemoue Bakayoko has followed Chelsea FC, Willian, David Luiz, Michy Batshuayi and Didier Drogba on his twitter account this morning.

This boy is blue.

But he tweeted good morning from Manchester. I hope he was trolling the manures.

Do you know?: Rooney left Everton, got married, cheated, had 3 kids, played in 3 World Cups, won 16 �, went bald, had a hair transplant, became Man United's top scorer, and returned to Everton without Arsenal winning the EPL.

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Greatihex:
what do you mean by it is nt conte's fault. Conte is signing a certain bakayoko that wl ensure that Nathan gets his ass glued to the bench with fabregas nd matic still around. How wl u expect the boy to play. If Nathan had started like 20 matches last season, do you think he would have refused the contract?
If it was mou nw, everybody wl start saying that it is because mou is nt giving him chance.
It is very difficult for you to see a player that mou says is simply nt gud enough. Mou's language is always like this, "he has the potential", "he needs to improve", "he needs to learn to play my style or to my instructions", "he needs to get to terms with the intensity of the league" etc. The problem nw lies in the players who nw requests to leave the club, which mou has vowed never to be in the way of anyone who wishes to.

Mourinho is gone bro, u really dont ave to bring him to d matter... D man u trolls will be feeling themselves now

PietroRico:
Mourinho binned yoot and most of them are still at his throat,even after donkey years.

Conte doing same and the tone has changed to 'who is responsible for this?'

Lool

exactly. Maybe, at the end of the day mou fit beta pass conte. At least em play players like, courtious, zouma etc.

Greatihex:
exactly. Maybe, at the end of the day mou fit beta pass conte. At least em play players like, courtious, zouma etc.

Now I see were you are heading to with your talk, Courtois and zouma? Enjoy your day.

Of all the 3 strikers we have been linked with this summer....

Lukaku comes with the PL experience, hence,very little risk but the least ceiling.....He won't improve much,his first touch never improve for 4 years now

Morata comes with a moderate risk,but then a higher ceiling..... if he gets it right,we are sorted out for years


Belotti is the biggest risk of all,one season in Serie A...But he has the highest ceiling.......If this guy can do what he did in Italy in England and Europe,then we can say 'New Drogba'.


I would have been gutted to buy Lukaku when I can buy Morata or Belotti for the same amount..... There is a reason he was second to Morata on Jose and Conte's list



Considering all things,I say let's get Morata AND Auba

1- We can play them together
2- Auba is a short term fix till Morata is ready to lead alone
3- Morata thrives when he is playing with another striker that can engage defenders

hinky:


Mourinho is gone bro, u really dont ave to bring him to d matter... D man u trolls will be feeling themselves now

that is nt my concern. My concern is our hypocricy.
For me, i dnt blame mou for some of the players that left during his time. Bt, since most of us here blame mou almost all the players that left then [both young and old], it wl be right if we also channel our blame to conte for the ones leaving nw.

Greatihex:
exactly. Maybe, at the end of the day mou fit beta pass conte. At least em play players like, courtious, zouma etc.

Jose will never play Chalobah against United,City,Liverpool e.t c like Conte did

Jose will rather play Terry on wheelchair than play Ake in a FA cup game at Wembley

We had RLC,Chalobah,Ake and Kennedy on the pitch in one of our games, Jose will never do that


Did you just mention Courtois and Zouma??

diggz:


Now I see were you are heading to with your talk, Courtois and zouma? Enjoy your day.

YES! No be mou gv them their debut come stil dy play them regularly?

Greatihex:
YES! No be mou gv them their debut come stil dy play them regularly?

Please stop disgracing yourself Bros. E b like you just wan argue go anywhere way Ur belleface today. Meanwhile, feel free to blame Conte too because it's Ur right. Enjoy Ur day.

I knw why we are finding it difficult to blame conte for anything nw. It is becvs we are still happy from the perceived magic we think he did to win the league.
When our old players and his new signings start misbehaving nw, na there chelsea fans go begin show their real self.

We have fab, Kante, matic and Baka in that midfield position, two cm and two Dm depending on the formation.

bigkesh:


Jose will never play Chalobah against United,City,Liverpool e.t c like Conte did

Jose will rather play Terry on wheelchair than play Ake in a FA cup game at Wembley

We had RLC,Chalobah,Ake and Kennedy on the pitch in one of our games, Jose will never do that


Did you just mention Courtois and Zouma??

what happened to courtios and zouma?

bigkesh:
Of all the 3 strikers we have been linked with this summer....

Lukaku comes with the PL experience, hence,very little risk but the least ceiling.....He won't improve much,his first touch never improve for 4 years now

Morata comes with a moderate risk,but then a higher ceiling..... if he gets it right,we are sorted out for years


Belotti is the biggest risk of all,one season in Serie A...But he has the highest ceiling.......If this guy can do what he did in Italy in England and Europe,then we can say 'New Drogba'.

How did you ascertain the respective 'ceilings of the players?

You're training to be a doctor, not a carpenter.

In terms of capacity to improve, Lukaku has scored 16, 20, 25, and 26 goals in his 4 consecutive seasons...thats constant improvement....and now he's moved to a bigger team to play along better players who will undoubtedly create better quality chances for him, at a a higher volume too.

Morata on the other hand managed 9, 15, 12, and 20 goals over the same time period

Belloti did 10, 6, 12, and 28 in his last 4 seasons.

I don't know how you assessed these ceilings, but the logic ain't looking watertight to me.

Nihilist:


How did you ascertain the respective 'ceilings of the players?

You're training to be a doctor, not a carpenter.

In terms of capacity to improve, Lukaku has scored 16, 20, 25, and 26 goals in his 4 consecutive seasons...thats constant improvement....and now he's moved to a bigger team to play along better players who will undoubtedly create better quality chances for him, at a a higher volume too.

Morata on the other hand managed 9, 15, 12, and 20 goals over the same time period

Belloti did 10, 6, 12, and 28 in his last 4 seasons.

I don't know how you assessed these ceilings, but the logic ain't looking watertight to me.

'Lukaku is dead to me'

diggz:


Please stop disgracing yourself Bros. E b like you just wan argue go anywhere way Ur belleface today. Meanwhile, feel free to blame Conte too because it's Ur right. Enjoy Ur day.

pls, tell me hw i am disgracing myself.

Greatihex:
that is nt my concern. My concern is our hypocricy.
For me, i dnt blame mou for some of the players that left during his time. Bt, since most of us here blame mou almost all the players that left then [both young and old], it wl be right if we also channel our blame to conte for the ones leaving nw.

Ok i grab... Seems we love conte more

bigkesh:


Jose will never play Chalobah against United,City,Liverpool e.t c like Conte did

Jose will rather play Terry on wheelchair than play Ake in a FA cup game at Wembley

We had RLC,Chalobah,Ake and Kennedy on the pitch in one of our games, Jose will never do that


Did you just mention Courtois and Zouma??

Jose too can't pick youths to play Carling cup ND fa cup even if its against division 20.