Let's hope this comes to pass.

"According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture is expected to enable the Navy acquire a General Purpose Frigate valued at $350 million; Long Endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel valued at $120 million; Medium Endurance OPV estimated at $60 million; Landing Platform Dock worth $350 million and a Landing Ship Tank valued $90 million.

Others include a submarine worth $300 million; a Sea Defence Boat and Naval Helicopter estimated at $10 million and $25 million respectively."

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/07/17/naval-chief-nigeria-requires-1-3bn-to-secure-territorial-waters/

rka2:
Let's hope this comes to pass.

"According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture is expected to enable the Navy acquire a General Purpose Frigate valued at $350 million; Long Endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel valued at $120 million; Medium Endurance OPV estimated at $60 million; Landing Platform Dock worth $350 million and a Landing Ship Tank valued $90 million.

Others include a submarine worth $300 million; a Sea Defence Boat and Naval Helicopter estimated at $10 million and $25 million respectively."

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/07/17/naval-chief-nigeria-requires-1-3bn-to-secure-territorial-waters/

Damnnn .. Nigeria we're coming through!! We need money. How much is the Navy's share in the budget?


According to him, the "proposed" funding.

Nigeria has lost billions to pipeline vandals, it's better we spend the money on something reasonable. I hope they get the funding, that's some crazy big list.

newafricaken254:
kenyan soldiers and police in the rift valley

Such a beautiful landscape. Is this part of the national park that the SGR cuts through ?

rka2:
Let's hope this comes to pass.

"According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture is expected to enable the Navy acquire a General Purpose Frigate valued at $350 million; Long Endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel valued at $120 million; Medium Endurance OPV estimated at $60 million; Landing Platform Dock worth $350 million and a Landing Ship Tank valued $90 million.

Others include a submarine worth $300 million; a Sea Defence Boat and Naval Helicopter estimated at $10 million and $25 million respectively."

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/07/17/naval-chief-nigeria-requires-1-3bn-to-secure-territorial-waters/

Damn we are getting that Indonesian vessel for sure, its only a matter of time, if only the chief of Naval staff was in the same love triangle as the chief of sir staff, the chief of army staff and the president maybe extra budgetary funds would be easily accessed by the navy.

At $45 millions each that thing is a ripoff to the seller and of course the navy is not stupid, so it will get a multipurpose Frigate, the contracts will most likely be executed simultaneously.

jakeporeshenko:

Damn we are getting that Indonesian vessel for sure, its only a matter of time, if only the chief of Naval staff was in the same love triangle as the chief of sir staff, the chief of army staff and the president maybe extra budgetary funds would be easily accessed by the navy.

At $45 millions each that thing is a ripoff to the seller and of course the navy is not stupid, so it will get a multipurpose Frigate, the contracts will most likely be executed simultaneously.

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

jakeporeshenko:

Damn we are getting that Indonesian vessel for sure, its only a matter of time, if only the chief of Naval staff was in the same love triangle as the chief of sir staff, the chief of army staff and the president maybe extra budgetary funds would be easily accessed by the navy.

At $45 millions each that thing is a ripoff to the seller and of course the navy is not stupid, so it will get a multipurpose Frigate, the contracts will most likely be executed simultaneously.

It is doable ($1.3B) . The CNS needs play his " cards right" The NAF has become the most transparent, the most professional and is has now leapfrogged the NN in terms of manufacturing , patenting and employing indigenous companies, also they collaborate with at least six Nigerian Universities.
1 The NN needs to become more transparent like they were in 2014- 2015.
2. The N.N. needs to become more professional like they were in 2014-2015, I don't know who the Navy spokesperson is ? i know that of the NAF and NA
3. The N.N. needs to manufacture more in house ships and come up with an indigenous mini sub, if they get stuck on this talk to the Colombians.
4. One of the most powerful Senators is from the same area as the CNS South- South . I am talking about the Senator who is connected to the presidency,Sen.Ita Solomon Enang is the Senior Special Assistant (SSA) to President Muhammadu Buhari on National Assembly Matters
(Senate). The CNS needs to collaborate with him.
5. Nigeria needs a submarine for classified reason ( I am a submarine apologists) build the pen/ port in AKWA IBOM * and send the NN personnel to Pakistan.
6. The NN needs to collaborate with at least SIX universities and some of the Oil Companies

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

Nigeria started increasing Military spending ..... MAY2015*, It depends on needs and wants and who is at the helm at each service.
The NA has seen the lot improve significantly
The NAF has seen their lot improve significantly
The NN needs to" open their MOUTH " because a close mouth does not get fed.

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

Some countries don't have the same level of outcry as South Africans. South Africans want everything and anything to be done by the state, free education with free learner books and free stationery, free healthcare, free freeways blah blah blah.

South Africa would have afforded having the military that was suggested by the Defence Review before the Arms Deal if it wasn't for the over spending in education. 20% of the country's national budget goes to the DoE, WTF? No country under the sun does that.

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

Nah, military spending is not tot be increased. The post says:


"

According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

Public ouctry ?? I'm not sure how much hay can influence.

Anyways I am not getting my hopes high, however it feels good to know the navy has a plan and knows were it wants to be and what it'll take to get there.

Get my point ?

HOUSE PROPOSES MARITIME FUND FOR THE NIGERIAN NAVY.

The Speaker added that establishment of Maritime Security Fund would provide the Navy with needed funds to effectively discharge its sub-regional duties of patrolling the joint development zone between Sao Tome and Principe and Nigeria.


Dogara also posited that security in Nigeria’s teritorial waters must be strengthened, with the Nigerian Navy and other relevant agencies collaborating to stem the tide of piracy and other attacks, while the parliament seeks ways to secure its territorial waters.

He disclosed these at a public hearing on a Bill for an Act to amend the Maritime Operations Coordinating Board Act, reconstituting the Maritime Operations Co-coordinating Board for effective control of all maritime operations in Nigeria’s territorial waters and the Exclusive Economic Zone, create the Maritime Security Fund and establish anti-piracy offences.

Dogara said that the importance of the maritime sector and its capacity to take Nigeria out of recession could not be undermined.

FOR JNL: The way we run our government isn't the same. People do not see things the same way.

Noting that poor funding has been one of the constraints of the Nigerian Navy in securing Nigeria’s waterways, the Speaker said the creation of the Maritime Security Fund will go a long way in providing the much needed fund to also effectively despatch it sub-regional duties of patrolling the Joint Development Zone between Sao Tome and Principe and Nigeria, and the Gulf of Guinea generally.

https://guardian.ng/politics/nigeria-loses-n7trn-to-insecurity-in-high-seas-annually-says-dogara/

jakeporeshenko:

Damn we are getting that Indonesian vessel for sure, its only a matter of time, if only the chief of Naval staff was in the same love triangle as the chief of sir staff, the chief of army staff and the president maybe extra budgetary funds would be easily accessed by the navy.

At $45 millions each that thing is a ripoff to the seller and of course the navy is not stupid, so it will get a multipurpose Frigate, the contracts will most likely be executed simultaneously.

The Indonesian Strategic Sealift Vessel is a done deal. We are getting it for sure. However the figures been quoted are kinda off.

I hope it comes to pass soon. We have been patient enough.

tdayof:
HOUSE PROPOSES MARITIME FUND FOR THE NIGERIAN NAVY.

The Speaker added that establishment of Maritime Security Fund would provide the Navy with needed funds to effectively discharge its sub-regional duties of patrolling the joint development zone between Sao Tome and Principe and Nigeria.


Dogara also posited that security in Nigeria’s teritorial waters must be strengthened, with the Nigerian Navy and other relevant agencies collaborating to stem the tide of piracy and other attacks, while the parliament seeks ways to secure its territorial waters.

He disclosed these at a public hearing on a Bill for an Act to amend the Maritime Operations Coordinating Board Act, reconstituting the Maritime Operations Co-coordinating Board for effective control of all maritime operations in Nigeria’s territorial waters and the Exclusive Economic Zone, create the Maritime Security Fund and establish anti-piracy offences.




Noting that poor funding has been one of the constraints of the Nigerian Navy in securing Nigeria’s waterways, the Speaker said the creation of the Maritime Security Fund will go a long way in providing the much needed fund to also effectively despatch it sub-regional duties of patrolling the Joint Development Zone between Sao Tome and Principe and Nigeria, and the Gulf of Guinea generally.

https://guardian.ng/politics/nigeria-loses-n7trn-to-insecurity-in-high-seas-annually-says-dogara/

This governments strategy of spending its way out of the recession might backfire, but let's all enjoy it in the short term "put money where your mouth is"

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

I disagree with you. Military spending can be increased, all Nigerian armed services can point to a threat. Air Force and Army would say Boko-Haram, Navy would claim oil theft.

Even we look at the things the Nigerian navy chief has mentioned, you can see that they are already been acquired.

He mentioned 1 Helicopter, we all know the Nigerian navy is receiving 3 Airbus helicopters. We have seen pictures.

He mentioned LPD, we know the Nigerian navy would soon order an SSV from Indonesia. I shared an Indonesian link.

He talked about a Landing Ship Tank, we all know the Nigerian navy signed an agreement with the Indians to locally build an LST in Nigeria.

He mentioned a Seaward Defence Boat, we all know we build those in Nigeria. A 40 meters SDB was launched last year, a larger 50 meters SDB is currently under construction at the Nigerian naval dockyard.

What else is left in the list, just a Frigate,an OPV and a sub. So you tell me, where are we?

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military t alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

The money the navy is using to buy 3 helicopters, 14 vessels and 24 amphibious vehicles is from an alternative funding stream.

jakeporeshenko:

This governments strategy of spending its way out of the recession might backfire, but let's all enjoy it in the short term "put money where your mouth is

Hahaha, so far it is on military equipment, they have my approval

rka2:
Let's hope this comes to pass.

"According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture is expected to enable the Navy acquire a General Purpose Frigate valued at $350 million; Long Endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel valued at $120 million; Medium Endurance OPV estimated at $60 million; Landing Platform Dock worth $350 million and a Landing Ship Tank valued $90 million.

Others include a submarine worth $300 million; a Sea Defence Boat and Naval Helicopter estimated at $10 million and $25 million respectively."

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/07/17/naval-chief-nigeria-requires-1-3bn-to-secure-territorial-waters/

We keep buying more and more OPVs, this obsession won't stop. We already have 5, why get any more?

I'll probably hold on, on the Submarines, invest in other areas first. At the minimum we should have 1 Frigate, 2 Corvettes and 4 missile boats.

jln115:

Dude don't get your hopes up, there's is no way that your government will increase military spending while you are in a recession, imagine what public outcry that would cause??

And unfortunately we are in the same boat, best thing your defence ministry can do is to look at alternative funding streams, like ours are trying to do.

Fact is be thankful for the few pieces you already payed for and are busy recieving since it will be quite a long time before you will receive anything substantial again.......South Africa are in the same boat.

Nigeria and SA is not in the same boat. Nigeria's defence budget is opaque by many standards even in the most transparent of governments that hold power in Abuja.

Henry240:


We keep buying more and more OPVs, this obsession won't stop. We already have 5, why get any more?

I'll probably hold on, on the Submarines, invest in other areas first. At the minimum we should have 1 Frigate, 2 Corvettes and 4 missile boats.

I'd understand for prestige the big name tickets but OPV's are actually cheaper to run and they are the new work horse of the Sea. For enduring presence at Sea against contemporary threats they pack a punch and make sense and most Navies go for it. Besides in War if an open design can be reconfigured to meet existential threats. Talk of killing two birds with one stone.

In my thinking the Frigate and Submarine are for deterrence and statement in an increasingly bold and ambitious neighborhood.

rka2:
Let's hope this comes to pass.

"According to him, the proposed funding for maritime safety architecture is expected to enable the Navy acquire a General Purpose Frigate valued at $350 million; Long Endurance Offshore Patrol Vessel valued at $120 million; Medium Endurance OPV estimated at $60 million; Landing Platform Dock worth $350 million and a Landing Ship Tank valued $90 million.

Others include a submarine worth $300 million; a Sea Defence Boat and Naval Helicopter estimated at $10 million and $25 million respectively."

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/07/17/naval-chief-nigeria-requires-1-3bn-to-secure-territorial-waters/

Power projection. And with the incoming birds both for the Navy & NAF no one is gonna mess with us again . This is intent on a self sustaining strategic expeditionary fleet for deterrence and offensive voyage. An Admiral's delight! Look for a new naval command.

Henry240:


We keep buying more and more OPVs, this obsession won't stop. We already have 5, why get any more?

I'll probably hold on, on the Submarines, invest in other areas first. At the minimum we should have 1 Frigate, 2 Corvettes and 4 missile boats.

Brotherly We need OPVs no matter how we look at it...the Thunders will be nearing wheelchair stage soon and I wouldn't want us to be competing in looks with bingo..However the prices quoted for the OPVs r giving me twitches

I'd also not advocate One of anything..remember Aradu?Anyway for the subs...i'd not hold my breath since building infrastructure for it is gonna take some time.

Henry240:


I disagree with you. Military spending can be increased, all Nigerian armed services can point to a threat. Air Force and Army would say Boko-Haram, Navy would claim oil theft.

Even we look at the things the Nigerian navy chief has mentioned, you can see that they are already been acquired.

He mentioned 1 Helicopter, we all know the Nigerian navy is 1.receiving 3 Airbus helicopters. We have seen pictures.

He mentioned LPD, we know the Nigerian navy 2.would soon order an SSV from Indonesia. I shared an Indonesian link.

He talked about a Landing Ship Tank, we all know the 3.Nigerian navy signed an agreement with the Indians to locally build an LST in Nigeria.

He mentioned a Seaward Defence Boat, we all know we build those in Nigeria. A 4.40 meters SDB was launched last year, a larger 50 meters SDB is currently under construction at the Nigerian naval dockyard.

What else is left in the list, just a Frigate,an OPV and a sub. So you tell me, where are we?

1. Buying military equipment is not like buying fast food, you don't order and pick up that order at the next window, those helos were bought months even years ago

2. Dude if I reasoned like you SA would have 200+ Leo's, 2 LSDs, 6(80m) OPVs, several C130-J, Several A400M ect ect, simply being interested in something doesn't mean you're going to buy it. You actually need money for that.

3. We signed several memorandums of understanding on a lot of things, from fighters to LSDs.........You don't see our LSDs anywhere do you?

4. And? 40m boats aren't that expensive, they are also only armed with small calibre manned guns.....thus no need for any complex management systems. We've also received several boats in the last year.

Lastly look at your list......how many have you actually ordered?? at of your whole list only the 3 helicopters have actually materialised!

Henry240:


The money the navy is using to buy 3 helicopters, 14 vessels and 24 amphibious vehicles is from an alternative funding stream.

Small boats don't require large capital, and your Airbus helicopters were either ordered months/years ago or are second hand, as I said before you can't order a helicopter and then it's ready for collection a few days later.

jakeporeshenko:

Public ouctry ?? I'm not sure how much hay can influence.

Anyways I am not getting my hopes high, however it feels good to know the navy has a plan and knows were it wants to be and what it'll take to get there.

Get my point ?

I get your point

jln115:

1. Buying military equipment is not like buying fast food, you don't order and pick up that order at the next window, those helos were bought months even years ago

2. Dude if I reasoned like you SA would have 200+ Leo's, 2 LSDs, 6(80m) OPVs, several C130-J, Several A400M ect ect, simply being interested in something doesn't mean you're going to buy it. You actually need money for that.

3. We signed several memorandums of understanding on a lot of things, from fighters to LSDs.........You don't see our LSDs anywhere do you?

4. And? 40m boats aren't that expensive, they are also only armed with small calibre manned guns.....thus no need for any complex management systems. We've also received several boats in the last year.

Lastly look at your list......how many have you actually ordered?? at of your whole list only the 3 helicopters have actually materialised!

1, Except there are budgetary constraints, a Helicopter only takes 9 months to deliver. Read my initial comment again, i stated clearly that the helicopter the Chief of Naval Staff is talking about is already due for delivery.

2, Dude, i'm not referring to a wish-list. Some ofthe items referred to in the CNS comments have already been bought or are in the process of being purchased. The things you mentioned for SA are just pipe-dreams.

3, On items such as the SSV there is already budgetary provision for a large vessel from PT PAL. It is clearly right there in the link i posted.

What i stated is an MoU, is that of the LST signed with India.

4, A 40m vessel costs a minimum of 8 million dollars a unit. My post which mentioned the Seaward Defence Boat has nothing to do with price.

Read it, understand what i posted, then come back and comment.

On the list, 3 Helicopters, 1 SDB and 1 vessel from PT PAL.

jln115:

Small boats don't require large capital, and your Airbus helicopters were either ordered months/years ago or are second hand, as I said before you can't order a helicopter and then it's ready for collection a few days later.

While you are at it, could you point out specifically where i typed the helicopters due for delivery were ordered yesterday when the CNS made the comment?

Henry240:



On the list, 3 Helicopters, 1 SDB and 1 vessel from PT PAL.

Don't forget the 4 OCEA boats.

http://www.janes.com/article/68025/nigerian-navy-purchases-ocea-patrol-vessels

Henry240:



2, Dude, i'm not referring to a wish-list. The items referred to in the CNS comments have already been bought or are in the process of being purchased. The things you mentioned for SA are just pipe-dreams.

Maybe they'rent. The Leo 2s he's referring to were actually gonna be purchased. Remember the Olifant MK2 still needs to be replaced, whatever firing modifications done on them were just for the meantime... Same goes for the A400M and airtanker...... If you remember that we talked about 7 new navy vessels for years while you and Augububu laughed about it... Bang, the 7 new vessels are coming.

jakeporeshenko:

Such a beautiful landscape. Is this part of the national park that the SGR cuts through ?

those are grazing lands,where cattle rustling is rife between kenyan pastoralist communities e.g pokot

Kenya and Britain revamp defence relations to deal with Al Shabaab

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBwSXv7XHdA

off topic :it looks like US SOCOM operator lost a SCAR assault rifle

jakeporeshenko:

Damn we are getting that Indonesian vessel for sure, its only a matter of time, if only the chief of Naval staff was in the same love triangle as the chief of sir staff, the chief of army staff and the president maybe extra budgetary funds would be easily accessed by the navy.

At $45 millions each that thing is a ripoff to the seller and of course the navy is not stupid, so it will get a multipurpose Frigate, the contracts will most likely be executed simultaneously.

I agree.