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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Florblu(f): 2:22pm On Aug 14, 2017
This man has never fail me. He is one of the few men of God that I respect. The first time I was under his ministration,Mehn!it was thought provoking and it never left me.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 14, 2017
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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by daddyrich: 2:24pm On Aug 14, 2017
Thumbs up sir
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Nobody: 2:25pm On Aug 14, 2017
This man said the very truth, tithing is a wonderful practice but I think it should be given to needy people not rich churches, for wealth distribution in our society. Religious people are mostly misinformed and brainwashed, they would even come back and say it's because of seed sowing and tithes that so and so miracles happened!

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by bjayx: 2:26pm On Aug 14, 2017
Why the long post n the quote of the same
Its either no brain in ur head or no sense in the brain. shocked
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Infomaz(m): 2:28pm On Aug 14, 2017
Seed in the Bible and as used by Jesus in the parable of the sower refers to the word of God and not money. See Mark 4:14-15 below.


14 The sower soweth the word. 15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by shine12: 2:29pm On Aug 14, 2017
Money-doubler Christians will start castigating him. The greatest Ponzi of the century is not Maddof, Its not even the Charles Ponzi guy himself. but hustlers like everyone else that claim to represent God and also tell them that they have a mandate to make poor men become rich. I'm a christian by the way but I do not subscribe to that version of Christianity.

The reason why we (21st century people) are better off than the peasants of the 16th century and 17th century was because man has continued to use his God given brain to explore, discover and innovate. The day we stop is the day we are doomed.

If they inform a man in 15th century that he'll have access to tap water, sit down and watch activities occurring 2,000 miles from him in his living room and that his children will be delivered in a hospital whilst telling him that to afford all that, he's only required to work for 37-40 hrs per week, He will ask you that "what drugs are you on?". All that prosperity was due to the fact that man used his brain (God given and design of course) to innovate.

Money and infrastructure et al DO NOT double because someone told you to sow without an inner conviction, buying suit or car for a man.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by win2kwire: 2:29pm On Aug 14, 2017
and god told him that?

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by CoCoLav(f): 2:29pm On Aug 14, 2017
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by oglalasioux(m): 2:31pm On Aug 14, 2017
No way o!

God desperately need the seeds.
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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by holyfather(m): 2:33pm On Aug 14, 2017
richidinho:
I think I know this man before when he was the senior pastor then under winners in bayelsa
He was never in Winners!

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Nobody: 2:34pm On Aug 14, 2017
In a bid to sound politically correct we must not deviate from the truth in the word of God.

"Give and it shall be given unto you, Pressed down shaken together shall men give unto your bossom"


Seed sowing isn't just for churches by the way, you can plant seeds in orphanages or aid ministries and you would reap it back as u desire.

The only issue that I have is many churches do not preach or emphasize on Alms(for the poor and destitute) which is equally or even more important than the tithe(if the tithe is solely for church administration). There are many church groups in poor countries giving aid to the poorest and also assisting with disaster relief. E.g Jentzezen outreach for Haiti, Joyce Meyer prison outreach, James and betty Robinson outreach in South Sudan, TD jakes Megacare etc. You should sow financial seeds in these ministries and you would see what God would do for you.

However do not starve your church of your tithe-it is needed for expansion and propagation of Christ and the Christian order e.g payment of pastors(read gal 6:6), building of churches, missionary, establishment of non profit schools e.t.c

So you need to hv a financial plan that serves ur family, church and the poor. Shalom

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by holyfather(m): 2:34pm On Aug 14, 2017
CoCoLav:
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by HajimeSaito(m): 2:36pm On Aug 14, 2017
An2elect2:
This man is a bit sound.

You mean the likes of the Sex Award Winner ( S.A.W ) fake " prophet " M for MUMU? The pedophile " prophet " whose followers commit numerous acts of terror in his name?
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Mucokey(m): 2:38pm On Aug 14, 2017
Twisting things more.. . I cannot just blindly hail him cos he still succeeded in convincing me not, since he conclusively still says that him himself still can't stop giving his money to the church.
I ve once worshiped in his church @uyo during my undergraduate days. I still remember how he's praising one American preacher who he claimed has a private jet n thus makes that private jet his mobile church sort of. Jah only sanctifies us all

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by JUBILEE2000: 2:40pm On Aug 14, 2017
CoCoLav:
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.

If ur position is true then u r saying Jesus died in vain but God forbid!!!!
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Sleyanya1(m): 2:40pm On Aug 14, 2017
Getting wealthy isn't really by Hardwork alone, also there are various dimensions of Wealth. As for Divine wealth from God, you must keep to scriptural principles irrespective of what ever legit job you do for a living.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Neatboy(m): 2:42pm On Aug 14, 2017
morereb10:


more @ http://www.exlinklodge.com/2017/08/clergy-warns-against-seed-sowing-god.html



Faith and Reasoning or Logic are antithetical. When you say the unseen things created the seen things it will still be illogical to that pastor. Listen folks, these days we have more motivational speakers than true pastors. That pastor is simply a motivational speaker. If you work hard without God's favour, grace or mercy you will never prosper. What about truck pushers, and street peddlers. How long will they hustle to make it? Bro., you even need God to open your eyes to see opportunities. You still need Him to order your steps to the right paths and right people. In fact, these days, Christianity is becoming a social gathering and less powerful. What is Christianity without the power of faith? the answer is: social gathering. Ask that pastor if he got his own wealth with his own strength. God shows mercy to whom He chooses to. Although God has never asked us not to put efforts, but He still wants us to come to the realization of the fact that it is Him that multiplies.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by seunfape(m): 2:43pm On Aug 14, 2017
Salvation is free but ministry needs money ,for ministry to keep going, members have to sow seed .that is general definition right now .

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by ricsman(m): 2:44pm On Aug 14, 2017
this pastor major topic is wealth.... I'm surprised he is saying this...
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Unikempire(m): 2:45pm On Aug 14, 2017
I'll bless the work of your hand not multiply the money that you gave pastor. Unik Empire speaks http://www.unikempire.com.ng/2017/05/ue-muzik-li-ogaranya.html
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by stagger: 2:47pm On Aug 14, 2017
Nowhere in the bible has seed sowing ever replaced the value of hard work. Seed sowing connects you to divine grace to prosper, but you have to work it out physically. Seed sowing is a complete package that involves tithing, offerings, giving to the poor, giving to parents and supporting social causes. Every Christian is expected to do all of that in a balanced manner.

Seed sowing however, connects you to Divine grace to prosper. On its own, it cannot produce wealth. Smart work which imparts value has to follow it. Those people quoting Winners here should know the effort it takes Bishop Oyedepo to write, print and publish books being sold all over the world. As someone who routinely writes more than 100,000 words in articles and research reports every month, as well as write seminar presentations and speeches for a Commissioner in my state, I can fully identify with this. It is hard work.

Even Bishop himself has once driven out someone who was praying in the church for blessing on a working day, reprimanding the person to go and get a job!

Anyone who sows seed and relaxes thinking that God is a money doubler or a counterfeiter who will rain Naira notes from heaven for any seed sown is just deceiving himself or herself.

Sow your seed, then get out there and work.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by ricsman(m): 2:47pm On Aug 14, 2017
Mucokey:
Twisting things more.. . I cannot just blindly hail him cos he still succeeded in convincing me not, since he conclusively still says that him himself still can't stop giving his money to the church.
I ve once worshiped in his church @uyo during my undergraduate days. I still remember how he's praising one American preacher who he claimed has a private jet n thus makes that private jet his mobile church sort of. Jah only sanctifies us all
exactly. just don't know what to say about him.... he preaches more on giving than any topic....

I went to his church in d morning and refuse to go back in the evening....

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by hippieguy(m): 2:48pm On Aug 14, 2017
Thanky you sir...And I think that is done for obvious reason

Statsocial:
In a bid to sound politically correct we must not deviate from the truth in the word of God.

"Give and it shall be given unto you, Pressed down shaken together shall men give unto your bossom"


Seed sowing isn't just for churches by the way, you can plant seeds in orphanages or aid ministries and you would reap it back as u desire.

The only issue that I have is many churches do not preach or emphasize on Alms(for the poor and destitute) which is equally or even more important than the tithe.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Dereformer(m): 2:53pm On Aug 14, 2017
CoCoLav:
If you go through the bible, you will see various passages where God requested for seeds as a sign of faith. It may not have been monetary at the time but in various instances, the children of Israel were asked to pledge their gold/silver. What God needs is something that is dear to your heart as in the case of Abraham/Isaac and not necessarily money. Pastors harp on money and other material things because that is what most of us hold very dear to our hearts in this modern times. In the case of Hannah for instance, she pledged Samuel because he was very dear to her heart. You need to start sowing seeds to understand how they work. If you dont plant, there can never be a harvest.


You are twisting it again. hannah gave samuel because she has samuiel. She did not give samuel to receive double or tripple of samuels. That is the point Pasor Abel is trying to pass across.

Any body that tells you to give so that God will give you back is a criminal. In fact, Abel said you give because you have not because you want to receive.

A friend invited me to a church one sunday. The pastor, after preaching called for those that will God N150,000. According to him, God specifically told him that that blessings attached to the N150,000 will be received that week. He encouraged every member of the church to key into the vision even if it means borrowing.

I told my self that the pastor is a criminal.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by openmine(m): 2:55pm On Aug 14, 2017
little by little,Christians and pastors are getting liberated and speaking out....lol...

first it was givers embassy,now this pastor.... soon the scales dat blinded gullible Christians will fall off....that's wen U will know who they truly believe in..their charismatic pastor or God!!

A time will come when no pastor will either preach about tithe or seed sowing...cos how wud U tell a wealthy man that he will have "landed properties" that he has in abundance....

Don't get me wrong...am a firm believer in giving generously to a cause and to the needy...please study slowly (Matthew 25:34-45)

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by destino24(m): 2:57pm On Aug 14, 2017
If hard work was all that is required for riches and wealth, Dangote wouldn't be the richest and those hardworking Barrow pushers and Masons mixing concrete won't be where they are. Hard work is important, but that's just a minor part of what is required for actual wealth.

My 10 Zimbabwean Dollars

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Nobody: 2:57pm On Aug 14, 2017
Neatboy:



Faith and Reasoning or Logic are antithetical. When you say the unseen things created the seen things it will still be illogical to that pastor. Listen folks, these days we have more motivational speakers than true pastors. That pastor is simply a motivational speaker. If you work hard without God's favour, grace or mercy you will never prosper. What about truck pushers, and street peddlers. How long will they hustle to make it? Bro., you even need God to open your eyes to see opportunities. You still need Him to order your steps to the right paths and right people. In fact, these days, Christianity is becoming a social gathering and less powerful. What is Christianity without the power of faith? the answer is: social gathering. Ask that pastor if he got his own wealth with his own strength. God shows mercy to whom He chooses to. Although God has never asked us not to put efforts, but He still wants us to come to the realization of the fact that it is Him that multiplies.
I agree with you. But I don't think it was right calling him a motivational speaker. Christianity leaves room for individuality but that doesn't make him less of a pastor.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by Nobody: 2:58pm On Aug 14, 2017
destino24:
If hard work was all that is required for riches and wealth, Dangote wouldn't be the richest and those hardworking Barrow pushers and Masons mixing concrete won't be where they are. Hard work is important, but that's just a minor part of what is required for actual wealth.

My 10 Zimbabwean Dollars
True that. No be hard work Na grace and smartwork.

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Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by muller101(m): 2:58pm On Aug 14, 2017
I wonder what kind of Seed the half baked Christians are sowing.
Re: Abel Damina Warns Against Seed Sowing: God Doesn't Multiply Money, Hardwork Does by piagetskinner(m): 2:59pm On Aug 14, 2017
I agree with this man 200%

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