TheGoodJoe:


They meaning those blowing his trumpet. Ritchie so absolutely brilliant but I do not hear future forward or what a great player, despite his consistent brilliant performances. The Trumpets blown for Rashford is not a decent player trumpet. It is more like a Shearer trumpet. When realistically, he has not yet shown so much unbelievable performance on the pitch.

You need to watch a young Ashley Young to get my drift.

bataderemi:

So Gray is as good as Rashford, ok.

safarigirl:
how can you cite Dele Alli as someone who is no fully English?

The minute you agree to play internationally for any country, you are fully from there. Dele Alli is as fully English as Iwobi and Moses are fully Nigerian

Please, never mention Dele as an example in this kind of thing.

And once again, Rashford's hype is because he is fully English. Tammy BROKE A RECORD in the Championships last season, do you think he would have been sent on loan if he was fully English? Has Rashford broken any record anywhere?

If Tammy was Fully British, he would have been USHERED into Chelsea's first team this season and nobody would buy Morata. The press would have slaughtered Conte for sending him out on loan

Why are you talking as if you are unaware of the politics in British football? As I dey read this your Tammy vs Rashford argument, e dey pain me.

Rashford is not better than Tammy. Put Rashford in that Swansea team and let's see how awesome he is, switch places and let's see if Tammy will not equal Lukaku's record by now

bataderemi:

Good you said 'they'. I haven't said anything to suggest he's exceptional. He probably won't even win the Golden boy award, so...
I see the problem you all generally think anyone who thinks Rashford is a decent player also thinks he's the world's brightest talent. Like I said, forming opinions and going with it.

TheGoodJoe:


Where did you get that from. I am pointing that your opinion of Rashford performing well at Leicester City is not true. Gray is brilliant but is having trouble despite a player who loves to make runs with the ball.

Gerrit?

bataderemi:

And I'm telling you he's more likely to perform cos he can help their counter-attacking style because he's better than Gray.

TheGoodJoe:


Is he better than Mahrez? Is Mahrez not having a torrid time under the same system?

The current system of Leicester City has more to do sith long balls from deep to Vardy. Not counter attacks with making runs with ball. So Rashford will be stranded too. That is why Gray is suffering in the system and he has little chance to make a shot at Rashford.

Put Gray in Manchester United set-up and put Rashford in Leicester City. Let me see you say Rashford is better.

That is why we use the term like handed out to Rashford. It favors him.

bataderemi:

Aunty, calm. Where did I say it's Kelechi's fault? It's their style, obviously not his fault. My country man's team? Really? Are the two clubs not English, what level is sentimental is this... God. Rashford will play kick and follow cos he runs. Kelechi will play better under Pep cos his game is better when his team can have the ball and pass around.
Rashford has things handed to him, wow. A win for black people then.

TheGoodJoe:


Is he better than Mahrez? Is Mahrez not having a torrid time under the same system?

The current system of Leicester City has more to do sith long balls from deep to Vardy. Not counter attacks with making runs with ball. So Rashford will be stranded too. That is why Gray is suffering in the system and he has little chance to make a shot at Rashford.

Put Gray in Manchester United set-up and put Rashford in Leicester City. Let me see you say Rashford is better.

That is why we use the term like handed out to Rashford. It favors him.

TheSuperNerd:
The European Section's EPL fanboys (esp. man utd fanboys) always show up here when we talk our own.... We say things as they are and they cringe.

I have never visited any European clubs thread on NL and will possibly never (only been in a few euro matchday threads even and it has been a long while)... in fact I don't even know they exist... Hahahahahahahahaha.... but they always come in here and hardly contribute any meaningful discussions about Nigerian Football...

All they wanna do is draw swords and defend anything Old-traffordish or Rashfordish or maybe even Trash Mikel as seen in "the invasion" of those European section dollopheads...

Look here... if you don't like what we say... then jump and pass aiit... Go cringe in your rooms and threads but don't come here to start blabbing nonsense and derailing this beautiful Super Eagles thread. Enough of the EPL orgasmic reactions from you guys on here... stick to your European flavor aiit... and stay out if you got nothing for Nigerian Football.


As in eh... lol... That moment when you see them telling you Rashford doesn't ride on hypes... and telling you Stuffs like... "Come on... there are no hypes around Rashford mehn.. even the media doesn't talk much about him" or that it has nothing with him being Fully English.... plus many more....


This is the look I give most times when I hear or read such lies and Nonsense...... lol

safarigirl:
Tammy na half caste?

No be only 4 half caste dey our team now? If the French team can be made up of 70% Africans, what is wrong in our team having 30% half caste (not even full whites)

safarigirl:
so, Rashford would blend because he runs? What a joke! Put him there first and let us see, easy to run your mouth when he's not there. Can you compare the Kelechi in City to the one in Leicester? Can you compare the Rooney in United to the one in Everton? So, common sense does not tell you that the players around a forward determine greatly, how well they perform?

And you are here claiming objective, now, you are talking about black people....oga objective, we see how your comments lack sentiments.

PietroRico:
you and your 'eyesorish' prepubescent rants.
I wonder how people here manage to cope with your childishnes.

komekn:


YOU ARE WRONG.

Rashford parents are from the Caribbean, his entire family background is black. And from Wythenshawe and the neighbourhoods of Moss Side, Hulme in Manchester.

Doesn't matter where you are from as long as you are not white you are black full stop.

Things are changing you are black you will face discrimination. However money has no colour. If you can produce then you will be on the ascendancy.

Rashford is not better than Tammy but he is in a team that will give youth players a chance. I have already talked about the dynamics at Chelsea race and nationality have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

The most influential person outside of Roman in Chelsea football club is EMENALO a former Nigerian international a black African.

There is no hype about Rashford he was simply given an opportunity and he seized it. If KC was at Manchester United he would certainly be a regular. There are different dynamics in each club.

A few months ago I was opportuned to watch Liverpool vs Chelsea U18. I was shocked the entire Chelsea team was black apart from the goalkeeper.

Chelsea is an international team on a lot of occasions they may not field one English player. So your perceptions and deductions are totally wrong.

Lukaku was not given a chance at Chelsea after hus move at 18 from Anderlecht, the rest as we say is now history, arguably the best striker in the premiership.

Across the top level if the EPL in thier academies there is now a racial bias in favour of strong, fast, athletic, technical players. Which simply means Black African origin players. I have had complaints from white players and thier associates saying. " You got to be black to get in, it's so unfair "
a kind of reverse racism.

If I didnt have conscience I would fly to Benin city pick out 3/4 top youth players of U17 from the various youth academies. Get them to England declare them as U14 and nurture them, put them through the system and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank and so will they.

TheSuperNerd:

Hahahahahahahahaha.... another Dollophead remark... Yara Yara this is Babylonian...



E pain am!!!

bataderemi:

Lol, you do not watch football.

komekn:


YOU ARE WRONG.

Rashford parents are from the Caribbean, his entire family background is black. And from Wythenshawe and the neighbourhoods of Moss Side, Hulme in Manchester.

Doesn't matter where you are from as long as you are not white you are black full stop.

Things are changing you are black you will face discrimination. However money has no colour. If you can produce then you will be on the ascendancy.

Rashford is not better than Tammy but he is in a team that will give youth players a chance. I have already talked about the dynamics at Chelsea race and nationality have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

The most influential person outside of Roman in Chelsea football club is EMENALO a former Nigerian international a black African.

There is no hype about Rashford he was simply given an opportunity and he seized it. If KC was at Manchester United he would certainly be a regular. There are different dynamics in each club.

A few months ago I was opportuned to watch Liverpool vs Chelsea U18. I was shocked the entire Chelsea team was black apart from the goalkeeper.

Chelsea is an international team on a lot of occasions they may not field one English player. So your perceptions and deductions are totally wrong.

Lukaku was not given a chance at Chelsea after hus move at 18 from Anderlecht, the rest as we say is now history, arguably the best striker in the premiership.

Across the top level if the EPL in thier academies there is now a racial bias in favour of strong, fast, athletic, technical players. Which simply means Black African origin players. I have had complaints from white players and thier associates saying. " You got to be black to get in, it's so unfair "
a kind of reverse racism.

If I didnt have conscience I would fly to Benin city pick out 3/4 top youth players of U17 from the various youth academies. Get them to England declare them as U14 and nurture them, put them through the system and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank and so will they.

bataderemi:

Gray is at best a darker Lingard.

mumemma:


4 is a number na......sister.....Abeg we need true nationals.....It makes the SE pure... Very soon other countries will take credence for baffing up our talents and all we did was to utilize.

PietroRico:
it's just a shame that after such a long time of rubbing minds with goodjoe, komekn and many other really intelligent and mature people here, very little has rubbed off on you.

bataderemi:

Lol, you do not watch football.

TheGoodJoe:


You can not tell because the young man is trapped in a poor system that does not suit him.

safarigirl:
Please, can the English football fans kindly exit this thread and go disturb their fellow English football fans?

Funny how the original discussion was Rashford and Tammy, but as always, it somehow reverted to Rashford and Kelechi as usual. Later, they will say we always drag Rashford.

PietroRico:
it's just a shame that after such a long time of rubbing minds with goodjoe, komekn and many other really intelligent and mature people here, very little has rubbed off on you.

It is also disappointing that you don't get called out on this.

TheGoodJoe:


Is he better than Mahrez? Is Mahrez not having a torrid time under the same system?

The current system of Leicester City has more to do sith long balls from deep to Vardy. Not counter attacks with making runs with ball. So Rashford will be stranded too. That is why Gray is suffering in the system and he has little chance to make a shot at Rashford.

Put Gray in Manchester United set-up and put Rashford in Leicester City. Let me see you say Rashford is better.

That is why we use the term like handed out to Rashford. It favors him.

komekn:


Thier friends and social circles is 100% Naija and African that's a huge pull of influence. Like I said these boys will dance Shoki more than you. Irrespective of the fact you grow for Naija.

bataderemi:

I doubt you understand how discussions work. So, bye bye.

TheGoodJoe:


Rashford came into the mix after the commentator in the last Manchester United game said Rashford is the future number nine of England. Shocking when Tammy is there. I expected Rashford on the left and Tammy nine (if he opts for England). Rashford is a brilliant talent but in the nine role, I feel Tammy has more to offer.

However, that statement from the commentator sent warning bells that Tammy might not be in the picture Of England as some think. That is what dragged Rashford into the picture.

Gerrit?