Mujtahida:

Are you satisfied with Rohr's tactical prowess? Cos he emphasises so much on team spirit, cohesion, discipline and hardwork which are very good things but is such emphasis not a cover for inadequate tactical nous as some like Mickael2 (if I'm not mistaken) have alleged as in allege that he ain't all that strong tactically?

TheGoodJoe:


That was my point from the start. I pointed it out because of the heavy criticism Iheanacho came under on this thread and how much we needed a powerful forward. How Iheanacho is not a true number nine and a true number nine will make a better choice.

Now the powerful forward had a poor game and a lot did not criticise. Shows bias to me.

junnyjake:


Forgotten Onuachu??

tbaba1234:
Potentially, depending on how the playoffs go

Mujtahida:

I guess like England tried to convince Iwobi to play for them after he'd made up his mind to play for Nigeria abi
"England did contact me recently before I played my first competitive match for Nigeria, asking if I wanted to play for England"- A. Iwobi

safarigirl:
soon as I saw this comment, I knew it was you ....checked and voila, no surprises

komekn:


There shouldn't be any suprise that I will not be emotionally sentimental but factually objective.

Thanks for the commendation

TheGoodJoe:


Keep in mind he is talking about modern game. Look at Guardiola tinkering with his formations and selections regularly.

TheGoodJoe:


That was my point from the start. I pointed it out because of the heavy criticism Iheanacho came under on this thread and how much we needed a powerful forward. How Iheanacho is not a true number nine and a true number nine will make a better choice.

Now the powerful forward had a poor game and a lot did not criticise. Shows bias to me.

junnyjake:


Forgotten Onuachu??

safarigirl:
you mentioned Simon Moses twice

Mujtahida:

I'm surprised that you left out Ezenwa who has manned the goal post thrice for Alampasu who has not done so even once. What informed such decision on your part?

Napoleon55:
i thought u said u expect only 75% of the current team to make the list

tbaba1234:
Potentially, depending on how the playoffs go

Mujtahida:
When you toast a lady once and she rejects your advances and you toast her again and again, some will call it begging but I trust that making that call again, making that effort again is how a large number of men got their wives and that's how many will still get their wives.

Icon4s:


Tactically, Rohr may not be up there amongst the best but his ability to instill team spirit, cohesion, discipline and hardwork is top notch.This is typical of German coaches and German teams.

Rohr is just almost like Westerhof including tactically.

jihday:
I'll like Russia Peru Iran

junnyjake:


Someone did half the job by getting the ball to him, Yaks had to do the other half by tucking the ball in. That to me was half - chance.

Humility017:

what I the lady is already in a relationship or better still engaged...?
will you still keep hovering over her...

TheGoodJoe:


That was my point from the start. I pointed it out because of the heavy criticism Iheanacho came under on this thread and how much we needed a powerful forward. How Iheanacho is not a true number nine and a true number nine will make a better choice.

Now the powerful forward had a poor game and a lot did not criticise. Shows bias to me.

Mickael2:



Ok I have to strongly disagree here.

There was a game we were playing, I think it was against Algeria in 2005? Westerhof was in the NTA studios, immediately the team sheet was released he analysed the games and told us how it would pan out and the number of goals Nigeria would score in the first half and bam it happened. In the second half too he said he expects Martins speed to be a bonus plus other things he said and there we go it happened that way.


Westerhof after 4 years built a team that was easily outplaying Bulgaria and most of the teams on the African continent, trust me after 4years our team would still be dragging with Zambia. German coaches as a matter of fact do not dwell on team spirit/maintaining the same team etc etc (cc Joachim Low, Jurgen Klinsman and Klopp ), these people depend on their tactical nous and their ability to get players to play to their formation, that is why teams like Germany and USA under Klinsman can field an entirely different 11 and still maintain the same identity, the only day we failed to name 3 of our starters we were playing kick and follow football.


I applaud Rohr for his all round man-management skills but comparing him tactically to Westerhof is just not true

terzurum5:
Rohr Line Up Russian-Nigerian Defender Idowu As Replacement For Injured Echiejile

Super Eagles left full back Elderson Echiejile has been ruled out of Nigeria’s final World Cup 2018 Qualifiers tie against Algeria in Algiers after picking up a hamstring injury in their 1-0 win over Zambia last weekend.


Echiejile went off injured late in the game, and was replaced by Chelsea full back Ola Aina, and recent test suggest he will spend at least four weeks on the sidelines as he work his way back to full fitness.


The length of time he will be out has lead to coach Gernot Rohr of the Super Eagles casting a glance at Russian-Nigerian defender Brian Idowu.


Idowu plays for Russian side Amkar Perm, and even though he qualifies to represent Russia, he was interested in switching allegiance to Nigeria before their first game against Algeria.


Issues concerning owning a Nigerian passport stopped him from honouring the call to represent Nigeria who are already through to the World Cup courtesy of their 1-0 win over Zambia last weekend.

Osas Mahawi

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/11/rohr-line-up-russian-nigerian-defender-idowu-as-replacement-for-injured-echiejile/

Mickael2:



Ok I have to strongly disagree here.

There was a game we were playing, I think it was against Algeria in 2005? Westerhof was in the NTA studios, immediately the team sheet was released he analysed the games and told us how it would pan out and the number of goals Nigeria would score in the first half and bam it happened. In the second half too he said he expects Martins speed to be a bonus plus other things he said and there we go it happened that way.


Westerhof after 4 years built a team that was easily outplaying Bulgaria and most of the teams on the African continent, trust me after 4years our team would still be dragging with Zambia. German coaches as a matter of fact do not dwell on team spirit/maintaining the same team etc etc (cc Joachim Low, Jurgen Klinsman and Klopp), these people depend on their tactical nous and their ability to get players to play to their formation, that is why teams like Germany and USA under Klinsman can field an entirely different 11 and still maintain the same identity, the only day we failed to name 3 of our starters we were playing kick and follow football.


I applaud Rohr for his all round man-management skills but comparing him tactically to Westerhof is just not true

Mickael2:



he had an average game, not poor game. True he failed to put away some chances but atleast he got those chances. Against Algeria Mikel was there, but Nacho was not even getting in the right passing lanes all game long, against SA granted Mikel wasn't there but still Nacho was making impossible runs. The fact that Ighalo actually got into this positions shows an upgrade, a serious upgrade on Nacho.

About Ighalo not pressuring, that was the low point of his game

jihday:
at least you can't accuse ighalo of being anonymous in that game unlike nacho's game against Algeria

jihday:
how many coaches are like Pep, especially at the international level?

Icon4s:


See, the principle is same all across. You don't tamper with the set up of the team at random. If the team is not getting results you can chose to overhaul but when the team is getting results you try as much as possible to maintain shape so as not to lose balance. This is a simple principle in coaching.

I have worked with Westerhof (I learnt coaching from him) and I know what I mean by he not being much different from Rohr in terms of tactical approach to games and team selection.


If the NFF wants to get any of those coaches you listed then they should be ready to shoulder the huge financial responsibility. I have said it that Rohr, tactically is not amongst the bests but the other things he brings to the team have carried the team thus far.

Then also remember that Club football is different from national team football. And remember also that it took Westerhof 5 years to build that team that featured at the 1994 World Cup and I completely disagree with you that the current crop cannot dominate African opposition. We are working towards that and we will get there but remember also that football has generally progressed in Africa. You can hardly dominate for too long.

Kog45:
Truly not much difference but they cannot be compared coz i remember Bonfrere Jo was doing a lot for Clemens tactically and it was obvious but i don't know of Rohr may he has someone doing it for him too

Yes club football is totally different from national team football and cannot be compared tactically.Rohr already has his team and they are doing well,so to tamper with d team w not be easy especially on d verge of making it to d WC.

I see Rohr as a very conservative coach that need assistance in area of tactics coz i w not deceive u d team has been playing as a compact team which i understand.

I believe before WC things w take shape and we w see a better and balance team

Icon4s:


See, the principle is same all across. You don't tamper with the set up of the team at random. If the team is not getting results you can chose to overhaul but when the team is getting results you try as much as possible to maintain shape so as not to lose balance. This is a simple principle in coaching.

I have worked with Westerhof (I learnt coaching from him) and I know what I mean by he not being much different from Rohr in terms of tactical approach to games and team selection.


If the NFF wants to get any of those coaches you listed then they should be ready to shoulder the huge financial responsibility. I have said it that Rohr, tactically is not amongst the bests but the other things he brings to the team have carried the team thus far.

Then also remember that Club football is different from national team football. And remember also that it took Westerhof 5 years to build that team that featured at the 1994 World Cup and I completely disagree with you that the current crop cannot dominate African opposition. We are working towards that and we will get there but remember also that football has generally progressed in Africa. You can hardly dominate for too long.