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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:52pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Nigerdeltaboi: That is why it has to be a surprise. Let's wait till then |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:52pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
70percent of d list I av seen so far excludes Etebo.I feel those who excluded the guy etebo from deir list ought to b an active supporter of RUGBY not FOOTBALL, dey av absolutely nothing supporting d game of football,Thank God u guys re not Rohr Aw can u drop a multiplayer like Etebo,dt guy can play anywhere except goal keeping/central back.his kind re rare, he reminds me of a certain Mr GARBA LAWAL AT D OLYMPICS 96,so versatile |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:56pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
My List in Summary (1) Dele Aiyenugba (2) Ikechukwu Ezenwa (3) Dele Alampasu (4) Shehu Abdullahi (5) Leon Balogun (6) Troust Ekong (7) Ederson Echiejile (8} Ola Aina (9) Tyrone Ebuehi (10) Chigozie Awaziem (11) Uche Agbo (12) Mikel Obi(c) (13) Ogenyi Onazi (14) Karo Etebo (15) Abdul-Jeleel Ajagun (16)Wilfred Ndidi (17) Victor Moses (18) Simon Moses (19) Odion Ighalo (20) Kelechi Iheanacho (21) Olarewaju Kayode (22) Ahmed Musa (23) Alex Iwobi |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:57pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
forgiveness: Tega Abrahams is not a winger, he an out an out No.9 Abdul Ajagun is he on the up? is he one of the best in his league. Is he better than Fred Onyedinma and or Tega Onomah? Taiwo Awoniyi hasn't done enough to merit a call up although the season is still young, let's see. Would like to see Seyi Ojo in the mix. Which left sided player do we have that is better than him ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:00pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn:None 4 now. By Giroud-esq, i mean striker that is known for scoring with head occasionally. But before we find our Lukaku, he must have been playing Mbappe level before senior national team scents him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:03pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007: Aiyenugba and Ajagun , i will take out |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:06pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia: How people still include Carl Ikeme on their WC list still baffles me. A goalkeeper that is not likely to see even 1min of football action all season. A person that will likely spend more time on chemotherapy bed than on the training pitch Form is something that can easily vanish. If you stay out of sports for so long you lose form. My prayer for him is for this illness not to end his career. But expecting him in Russia? Haba! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:07pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s:exactly ! the final list will chop at least 30 pages ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:09pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:On Dele Aiyenugba i can tell u Rohr m not know him.I can tell u most of d guys u are seeing today are based on recommendation.What can u say about Aaron Samuel invitation? Dele Aiyenugba is a very good keeper with experience and still active in Isrealite top league as number 1,he deserves a look but sometimes coach can think otherwise especially goalkeeper trainer. A lot are questioning Alloy Agu on not searching well for quality keepers thanks to Ezenwa for rising to d occasion and save d situation. It's left for Alloy Agu to make recommendations even outside d shore of Nigeria coz Rohr cannot know it all.I know Rohr w be wondering with d performance of Ezenwa and Ajiboye in training coz they are home based. Right now i don't think Dele can make it coz Ezenwa has grown to become a reliable keeper to some point and all emphasis is on Enyeama to get a club and come back coz of his pedigree. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:09pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn:You wrote Veron not Varane before now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:14pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Can you state your Reasons?! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 8:16pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:bros for real? aiyenugba? ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 8:16pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:bros for real? aiyenugba? ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:17pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45: The emboldened Parts have said it all. Thanks for making very balance and objective Submissions. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:18pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jotey: Mention any Nigerian Goalkeeper better and more experience than him presently? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 8:20pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007: don't make me laugh abeg ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:22pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jotey: "Dele Aiyenugba is a very good keeper with experience and still active in Isrealite top league as number 1,he deserves a look but sometimes coach can think otherwise especially goalkeeper trainer. If you wanna laugh feel free to... coz you have every right to it. But that does not define you being logic with your opposition against his Inclusion. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 8:22pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia: Great Ife.. You be awo boys? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:26pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
daveP:Codename:Vladimir project Destination:Russia Prosecutors:32 nations |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:32pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Icon4s:When the reality is painful, fantasies bloom. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:36pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jotey:Pls do u have contrary view,let hear your opinion coz it make d thread thick If everyone is laughing without making an input either contrary we will not be on page 1k 787 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:39pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
soetanoreoluwa:Are you Great Ife ...nice to meet you oooo I am an unrepentant AWO boy ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 8:39pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oga please take time to peruse the phrase in bracket after Carl Ikpeme/Vincent Enyeama. If you had, there won't be need for this your Epistle. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 8:41pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
I no know wetin make me spend 5years for that hall alone. soetanoreoluwa: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 8:42pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Me be Awo boy but I no dey do aro again Nigerdeltaboi: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:59pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kennysville, at the time I wanted to tackle this your post I discovered that I had already served some hours of my ban on NL, which I believe lasts for 24 hours. Well, now here I come. My first thought was that you probably had some personal negative experience dealing with whites maybe in the UK, hence your sentiments-filled opinion. Granted, everyone is entitled to theirs. However on these TAMMY matters and many others for that matter, sound opinions can only be given when sentiments are not attached. Let me take you as well as others who gladly clicked “like” to your post to the reality of the world as it were, and even till this day. Responding to your paragraphs one at a time: Paragraph 1: I have heard that common saying times without number here in Nigeria -- “a country of over 200 million CANNOT…. “ Let me put that question to you.. why don’t we SEEM to have the best doctors, engineers etc. as well IN NIGERIA despite our population? The first and paramount reason is Brain Drain, which is caused by we ourselves failing to create the environment for ourselves to thrive here in Nigeria. The effect, many intelligent ones go abroad and become experts. Or many go to schools there and become professionals. Many of these would love to come back but for the reason that the situation still hasn’t changed. Even those who go abroad to take on menial jobs bring up children there who become experts in their field. And you expect those parents to tell them sweet sweet stories about Nigeria in nostalgia, and ask them to return.. FUNNY. Go to the Uk, US, Canada etc., they would always give preference for experts and promising talents from Nigeria etc. when considering them for Work Visas. Now let me take you back to football, and yes we are still talking human resources. The situation is somewhat the same. You can choose to live in caves if you want, but the reality of the world since the past till this very day is, advanced nations stay ahead because they know how to use the talents of other countries to advance themselves further in almost every field for that matter. Yes, their policy is if their indigenous population cannot fill a NEED then they must fill that vacuum with talents from another country. Of course this policy enforced strictly, since the government policy does not hold in many companies, some of which are also foreign-owned. Most of the time these countries will not only give chances to any person that they are confident will add value to their country, but they will also provide the environment for these foreign nationals to grow in their system. And I don’t want to make a generalization because racism does exist. But you are taking it way too far. Do we still have textile industries in Nigeria? Our local shoes made in Aba, would you rather buy them? It’s easy to talk. The things that you own, are they locally made or made abroad? Most of the things we think are locally made are actually made in China haha Over to Kanu Nwankwo. He and many others were a product of our U17 team. A system we have maintained till today. Over the years we have over-relied on our cadet teams to supply talents for the future. That is a failed youth developmental system, because when our junior teams miss out of the world cup it always spelled danger for us. Looking back and insinuating that was a period of excellence, is highly misleading. We’ve never had it right in this regard. But all of a sudden some people are speaking ill about the quest for foreign-breds to fill a need here, as if that’s the reason why we have not developed our own. That reasoning is misplaced. The big sin many of us are committing is misdirecting our anger. I will be the first person to call for the Pinnick-led NFF to take steps to building a solid developmental youth football structure here in Nigeria. However, showing interest in foreign-bred players will in no way affect our developmental agenda should we have one -- Apples and Oranges. Countries that are far more advanced in football compared to Nigeria have all used several foreign-born or foreign-bred players when these players have demonstrated they can add value to their teams. If you want me to name names I will. It is misleading to single out England. Even Germany, Spain, Italy are noteworthy examples. And I’m talking heavyweights in world football. I asked a question about Ejaria, and only komekn dared take a stab on it, although his answer was not satisfying to me. Let me bring it up again. Ejaria had long shown his interest playing for Nigeria. He even trained with our U17. Why did UK make a move for him, knowing that he wants to play for Nigeria? NOBODY called it begging. Why did Ejaria accept the offer to play for their U20? Yet NOBODY insinuated he made a U-turn. Ejaria still keeping up with the Super Eagles. But we are here trying to crucify Abraham because the 19 year old said he was still available for the England U21s, in the midst of a possible PR nightmare. I became convinced when I read your more recent post about conspiracy stuff. I’m going to tackle that post here as well. I’m not surprised by your remark. I had already sensed it. I’m even more convinced now that your opinions are borne out of sentiments, and even more so, your conspiracy beliefs. Nigeria won the Olympics in 1996. And here you are believing that the white countries/coaches have all ganged up to prevent that from happening for a second time, as if that will stifle our progress at the senior level. Let me clear you on this. Rio 2016 facts: Fifa had released an official statement in September 2015 that Rio Olympics was not in the FIFA calendar but appealed to clubs to release players. “The event is not part of the international match calendar,” FIFA said in a press release. “However, FIFA is asking for support from the clubs to allow players who are called up by their national teams to be given the chance to be part of the Olympic experience.” http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2015/09/25/fifa-olympics-release-players-clubs-soccer-rio-2016-qatar-2022-world-cup/ The prior Olympics? “In 2012, FIFA ordered club teams to allow under-23 players to compete in the Olympics. In 2008, the Court of Arbitration for Sport ruled Barcelona did not have to release Lionel Messi to compete in the Olympics, though Messi did end up winning gold with Argentina anyway.” – same source. So please can you tell us, was FIFA targeting Nigeria in their 2015 release as well? Did FIFA conspire with the European club coaches as well? Did other countries not miss out from fielding some notable players? Even at the U20 stages, countries like Germany are not represented by their best players in that category. Especially players already established in their clubs. Was that also an attempt by the coaches to hijack the football development of their respective countries? Will you be balanced now in your reasoning? In fact, Infantino said this when he visited Nigeria, “It is difficult to include the Olympics in the FIFA programme because the international match calendar is already congested and the start of the of the season clashes with the Olympics. This is why clubs insist in having their players, leaving the players with the dilemma of choosing between club and country. “We are discussing with the clubs to allow the players to serve their nations at the Olympics. In fact for some players once they miss one opportunity they may not get it again to play at that big stage and this is not good,” I can’t wrap my head around the idea that clubs would conspire against Nigeria, not considering their need for the players. Let’s give Pep etc. the benefit of the doubt. They wanted to see as much of their players during preseason. If you can come up with names of players from other countries these coaches released for Rio, name them. Who did Pep etc. release instead? Hmmmm I think my earlier analogy fits you perfectly well. One I gave safarigirl –- coincidentally. But I will modify it. It goes like this: One very bright sunny morning a boy called Tunde (lol) approached a beautiful sexy girl he had known for a while and asked her to marry him, holding a ring. He had his friend shoot, and other passersby also joined in shooting while he popped the question in that beautiful moment. Behold! although the setting looked perfect this girl blatantly said no in a very very rude way. In fact, she hissed and walked away.. that video went viral.. Since that day Tunde has been suffering from a very very low self esteem, he would take any girls every body language and remark to mean rejection. The story of Onuora statement vs. other England-bred players’ comes to mind in this analogy.. For those of you who tow this line of reasoning, that no clear statement in favor of Nigeria means rejection, I hope you get the analogy. You don’t have to be in the shoes of tbaba1234 , komekn etc. or myself to relate or understand the situation of these foreign-breds. It only calls for deep thinking and consideration to have sound judgments like Mujtahida ‘s and a few others’. Yes, It is left for the player to decide where his allegiance lies. Either way it should be respected without hard feelings. It is a professional decision. Many of you, in their shoes, WILL even do worse. To your next paragraph, it’s illusory of you to think that anyone is suggesting that they, foreign-breds are “the best thing that has happened to our football”. Side note: I like to use the term foreign-bred because as a matter of fact, a handful of these players we refer to were actually born in Nigeria. Even Komekn who I must admit seem extreme sometimes, I have to concede with him anytime he is able to prove that any of those foreign-breds he mentions are better than what we have right now in terms of position of play. Let’s think straight and be progressive in our approach to discussing these matters. Every country wants excellence and wants the best.. Sentiments removes from excellence – just as “rotation” does. If you can argue for a player or two who are home-grown and can prove that they are better than these foreign-breds make your arguments without sentiments, and I will concede. These players are all known to us.. We can check the facts. Videos can demonstrate their strengths.. If your desire is to hit back at whites for treating you in any specific way don’t take it on foreign-bred who happen to be biracial sometimes. IF YOUR CLAIM IS TRUE , that they are only second fiddle in that country, then why do you want to also treat them as such here. If you were in their shoes will you cherish being caught at the middle that way? Ekong said Oliseh said oyibo are soft (something like that), if that similar remark was said by a foreign coach to a black player abroad won’t we shout racist remark? And somebody said Ekong should forget the past. Haha. But he never forgot because he is human too. Please someone correct me if I’m reading your intentions wrongly. As regards England, England is a special case. But one thing is sure, they have now won the U20 because of us—yes I see them as us. And we have NEVER won that tournament. They are doing better at the junior levels because of us. Not like we --Nigeria—who are so so blessed, but have done great at the senior level either. Those Nigerian players they capped and “shoved aside”, how were their club careers at the time? Which coach will dump an ourstanding player just because he wants to prove a point with so called white English players? It happens most times here in Nigeria with our tribalistic “rotation” mindset. Ameobi’s case is that special one. Because he did do well at some point even after insisting on playing for England. I would rather blame the England coach at the time, than blame the country. (Let me chip in although I didn’t want to earlier, 50% of my immediate family are UK citizens and are doing well in their fields. And we even extend to Australia, so I have a world view in some of these matters). Back to what I was saying before I digressed, as long as Dele Alli and Ross Barkley stay outstanding they will always get the nod at the senior level (Check Barklay’s form now). Understandably, any player that hits a rough patch does not deserve an invite in any national team for that matter. You don’t use National teams to fix player’s careers. It’s not done that way. That’s bringing sentiments in where excellence should be the watchword. You want to invite the best at all times. John Fashanu, only 2 games for England. He played roughly 90 Premier league matches his entire career, and scored just about 20-something. I think his number of England caps is commensurate with his club performance. Victor Moses especially will be an England international today if not for his switch – going by his recent performances. How has Jordan Ibe been performing? Hahaha England national coaches are hawks but they are not as sentimental as most of our indigineous coaches. And lastly, to your last paragraph, “They need Nigeria more than Nigeria needs them” ,. The fact actually is, the need is mutual. If Fashanu had played for Nigeria, I’m sure many of us would have loved it for him to run our FA?.. A section of us wouldn’t for some obvious sentimental reasons. You see where I am going? What we have today in Nigeria is a result of years and years of incompetence at all levels of leadership. We can be sentimental for all we want, but that will not fix the problem even for our unborn children. kennysville: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia: The word in bracket was after Enyeama. You did not state it as "availability of both". |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:01pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Who re those mentioning aiyenugba again Please let's knw if u re related to d player u re suggesting on dis thread and not based on records,form Someone dt was giving a chance by siasia against Guinea in abuja here,due to d misunderstanding BTW enyeama and siasia, he couldn't utilize d oppt and keep a clean sheet for us to qualify,conceded 2goals against Guinea o U re now suggesting him again for world cup!!! Iro Aiyenugba ko,Orunugba ni,I would prefer a peter rufai to him self ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naijaphobia(m): 9:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Its OK...We both are wishing Ikpeme speedy recovery. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:05pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007: Not good enough. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:06pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia:His name is Ikeme and not Ikpeme. Thanks |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:11pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
As regards Players list for world cup, most of you are jumping the gun. Let's talk about Algeria and the coming friendlies. How about Nations Cup qualifiers? A lot can happen between now and Russia. 1 Like |
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