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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 3:43pm On Oct 15, 2017
Ibime:


In my interpretation of football, vision and delivery trumps dribbling everytime. Debruyne can also dribble but only enough to create space for a harmful pass or cross. That is better than dribbling 3 players while defence regroup. Go and see how Hazard crossed for Morata against ATM instead of dribbling which he would do 9 times out of 10. The whole purpose of football is to get the ball to where it needs to be to create a chance. Debruyne knows that ball travels faster than man, Hazard doesn't.

Vision and passing is pretty important but I feel dribbling is slightly more important....

Passing requires other players making dangerous runs and having good ball control... But a dribbler can do it all on his own

And again effective dribblers are much rarer than passers...

Although, the best thing is if a player can combine dribbling and passing ability. It always makes for a Lethal combination.. If hazard can improve his passing, he will be much more dangerous

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chrisley024(m): 3:52pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:


Vision and passing is pretty important but I feel dribbling is slightly more important....

Passing requires other players making dangerous runs and having good ball control... But a dribbler can do it all on his own

And again effective dribblers are much rarer than passers...

Although, the best thing is if a player can combine dribbling and passing ability. It always makes for a Lethal combination.. If hazard can improve his passing, he will be much more dangerous
Actually we've more dribblers than passers. I mean good passers as described here like De Bruyne not sideways or safe passers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 4:00pm On Oct 15, 2017
lol people criticizing hazard for his lack of direct play will be the same folks overhyping him when his dribbles starts tearing defences again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jaysmallz(m): 4:05pm On Oct 15, 2017
Leyqute:
Q: What is a Chelsea?

Chelsea is the new Arsenal.

Q: What is Arsenal?

Arsenal is the new Crystal Palace. cheesy

Don't worry....manure's decline is in progress cool

Leyqute:

And I'm afraid we're slowly (emphasis on slowly) tending toward Crystal Palace's direction.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:05pm On Oct 15, 2017
Is atsu still a CFC player or we have sold him to Newcastle?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 4:06pm On Oct 15, 2017
chrisley024:
Actually we've more dribblers than passers. I mean good passers as described here like De Bruyne not sideways or safe passers.

Are u sure? Man city have de Bruyne, David silva, Bernardo silva, gundogan... All good passers but they don't have any truly world class dribbler... Although sterling and sane are okay at dribbling

Man ute has pogba, mhiki, Mata, even Herrera is a good passer and their best dribbler is martial who is okay but not very good at dribbling

Madrid have Isco,Kroos,modric, all world class passers but the best dribbler in that team is probably bale or Ascensio

Might be wrong but seems good passers normally outnumber good dribblers
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jaysmallz(m): 4:08pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


Why would you excuse batshuayi? Did you see that cross from azpi in the 1st half, where he already showed him where he wanted to dash to, and later made a stupid second run and killed the chance? I missed morata there. Did you see how he killed possessions many times? He was not even running behind their defenders for fab passes.
That was how he played poorly against cyprus. He is never chelsea's quality, he can just be coming in few minutes to 90 mins to try his luck.

cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:15pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


chelseafan1, airmark you got mail

and no be me dey type am na your fellow Chelsea fans

I only reply to mails from cobham, because they reject foolish mails. Even yesterday, hazard played a one-time through pass to pedro, that forced a save from their keeper. Did he wait for their defence to regroup before giving the pass?

Next time don't hijack the work of cobhams and send me a stupid mail from a blind lacazette lacasera seller.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:16pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:


Are u sure? Man city have de Bruyne, David silva, Bernardo silva, gundogan... All good passers but they don't have any truly world class dribbler... Although sterling and sane are okay at dribbling

Man ute has pogba, mhiki, Mata, even Herrera is a good passer and their best dribbler is martial who is okay but not very good at dribbling

Madrid have Isco,Kroos,modric, all world class passers but the best dribbler in that team is probably bale or Ascensio

Might be wrong but seems good passers normally outnumber good dribblers

Bale and dribble kwa!? Bro...it should be isco, not even ascensio comes close.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:17pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


I only reply to mails from cobham, because they reject foolish mails. Even yesterday, hazard played a one-time through pass to pedro, that forced a save from their keeper. Did he wait for their defence to regroup before giving the pass?

Next time don't hijack the work of cobhams and send me a stupid mail from a blind lacazette lacasera seller.



Lol... cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:21pm On Oct 15, 2017
Fraser foster is a joke of a keeper
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 4:28pm On Oct 15, 2017
Nihilist:
Fraser foster is a joke of a keeper

I think you're a bit harsh on him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
Morata is back!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:29pm On Oct 15, 2017
diggz:


Lol... cheesy cheesy

Abi now. If care is not taken, they will tell us hazard never played a through pass to our striker, before.

Did he wait for defence to regroup here? Nonsense. That's how they said modric was a poor midfielder, because he doesn't play like debruyne.

[img]https:///media/10-15-2017/kUv1mN.gif[/img]

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 4:31pm On Oct 15, 2017
diggz:
Is atsu still a CFC player or we have sold him to Newcastle?


Sold
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:43pm On Oct 15, 2017
Elnino4ladies:



Sold

Ok. Tx

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:44pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


Abi now. If care is not taken, they will tell us hazard never played a through pass to our striker, before.

Did he wait for defence to regroup here? Nonsense. That's how they said modric was a poor midfielder, because he doesn't play like debruyne.

[img]https:///media/10-15-2017/kUv1mN.gif[/img]

Lol.....Cc Raumdeuter
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 4:46pm On Oct 15, 2017
diggz:


Bale and dribble kwa!? Bro...it should be isco, not even ascensio comes close.

Yh, maybe... But Isco is still more of a passer than a dribbler
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 4:53pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:

Yh, maybe... But Isco is still more of a passer than a dribbler
It's the other way round, Isco is more of a dribbler than a passer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 4:56pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:


Yh, maybe... But Isco is still more of a passer than a dribbler

Isco is actually more of a dribbler bro. He dribbles more than every other player you have mentioned in Ur list. Try to check up their stats bro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 6:13pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:


Are u sure? Man city have de Bruyne, David silva, Bernardo silva, gundogan... All good passers but they don't have any truly world class dribbler... Although sterling and sane are okay at dribbling

Man ute has pogba, mhiki, Mata, even Herrera is a good passer and their best dribbler is martial who is okay but not very good at dribbling

Madrid have Isco,Kroos,modric, all world class passers but the best dribbler in that team is probably bale or Ascensio

Might be wrong but seems good passers normally outnumber good dribblers

The best dribblers in Madrid are Marcelo, Modric, Kovačić, Isco; Kroos rarely dribbles but rather uses his passing and feints to get past an opponent; Asensio is more of a runner than a dribbler

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hopefulLandlord: 6:18pm On Oct 15, 2017
randomperson:


Vision and passing is pretty important but I feel dribbling is slightly more important....

Passing requires other players making dangerous runs and having good ball control... But a dribbler can do it all on his own

And again effective dribblers are much rarer than passers...

Although, the best thing is if a player can combine dribbling and passing ability. It always makes for a Lethal combination.. If hazard can improve his passing, he will be much more dangerous

I agree with most of what you wrote here but I have to point out that dribbling also involves other players making dangerous runs to make it happen

even Messi can't dribble without other players supporting him through positioning and runs which distracts whoever is marking Messi, such supports usually go unnoticed by the viewers and they think Messi did it all alone although I have to say passing relies on such more
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:40pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


Abi now. If care is not taken, they will tell us hazard never played a through pass to our striker, before.

Did he wait for defence to regroup here? Nonsense. That's how they said modric was a poor midfielder, because he doesn't play like debruyne.

[img]https:///media/10-15-2017/kUv1mN.gif[/img]

diggz:


Lol.....Cc Ramdeuter

This type of pass from hazard is what Debruyne does like 10 times a game

Showing Fellaini dribble one person as evidence that he's a dribbler is like showing airmarkrychowiak as evidence of common sense

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 6:44pm On Oct 15, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


I agree with most of what you wrote here but I have to point out that dribbling also involves other players making dangerous runs to make it happen

even Messi can't dribble without other players supporting him through positioning and runs which distracts whoever is marking Messi, such supports usually go unnoticed by the viewers and they think Messi did it all alone although I have to say passing relies on such more

That's true... Suarez does that a lot...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 6:49pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:




This type of pass from hazard is what Debruyne does like 10 times a game

Showing Fellaini dribble one person as evidence that he's a dribbler is like showing airmarkrychowiak as evidence of common sense
will you prefer he presents more gifs,or you will not relent your hazard hating career?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:53pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:




This type of pass from hazard is what Debruyne does like 10 times a game

Showing Fellaini dribble one person as evidence that he's a dribbler is like showing airmarkrychowiak as evidence of common sense

Lol...I was expecting you to respond this way grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neymar1095(m): 6:54pm On Oct 15, 2017
Just imagine Our bench striker is better than Man u Chelsea Arsenal Tottenham and Liverpool starting Strikers Lol.
Pep what have u done. By The way Sanchez is coming in January .When are we playing Chelsea again ha beg.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:56pm On Oct 15, 2017
cheesy cheesy

Na wa o!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:02pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:




This type of pass from hazard is what Debruyne does like 10 times a game

Showing Fellaini dribble one person as evidence that he's a dribbler is like showing airmarkrychowiak as evidence of common sense

cheesy cheesy cheesy

10 times ko, 1000 times ni. Show me just 5 of this hazard's type of pass, successfully setting the striker on goal, that debruyne gave against chelsea last time, and collect 100 bucks tomorrow morning?

Apari werey.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:04pm On Oct 15, 2017
atheist5:
will you prefer he presents more gifs,or you will not relent your hazard hating career?

No amount of gifs can prove that hidden hazard does that nearly as much as Debruyne.

Check the number of assists since kdb got to England and compare with hazard.

That's despite that Kevin plays very deep in midfield compared to hazard who plays as an attacker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 7:06pm On Oct 15, 2017
airmark:


cheesy cheesy cheesy

10 times ko, 1000 times ni. Show me just 5 of this hazard's type of pass, successfully setting the striker on goal, that debruyne gave against chelsea last time, and collect 100 usd tomorrow morning?

Apari werey.






Lol... cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by atheist5(m): 7:13pm On Oct 15, 2017
raumdeuter:


No amount of gifs can prove that hidden hazard does that nearly as much as Debruyne.

Check the number of assists since kdb got to England and compare with hazard.

That's despite that Kevin plays very deep in midfield compared to hazard who plays as an attacker
what about the number of assist of players like iniesta?,is prime debruyne not a better player that prime iniesta being a more productive player?

yes you right debruyne does that more,but mr eden has far more other component to his game than just that and he has deliverd more in his career that debruyne

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