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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 2:30pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Yup. As I was watching the hearing yesterday, all I kept saying to myself was 'let's hope that Eni's experience is gonna make the likes of Tammy Abraham etc to understand what's really going on .... ' I have lived in the US for over 20 year but people still perceive me as a Nigerian, even though they know very well that I am a US citizen! And I had said a few times here in the forum, when I was playing for my college team, I realized that as a black guy (especially an African immigrant), you have to be twice as good as the other guys in order to start ahead of them. Actually, as a black dude you have to be twice as good but if you're an African, the odds increases .... as an African, you have to be three times as good in order to play! O pari tbaba1234: 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 3:34pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:These whites sef. theyl be hiding behind this 'humor intended' cloud. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:55pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Would you consider Oliseh's statement to Ekong a racist remark, when he said Oyibo are soft? How about the plethora of tribaliatic hate-filled remarks we make against ourselves in this country? I don't think racism is necessarily white thing. It just happens to be that they are somewhat in control that's why theirs is a bigger issue. daveP: 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:57pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:your list good for first camping, |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:57pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Icon79: True. I have a few experiences as well. East coast or West Coast. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:00pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Hahaha Napoleon55: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:04pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Mickael2: Ike Uche is good but based on current performance Ighalo and Martins are contenders. For category 2, I am thinking of players in their mid 20s - 27 years of old. At the same time has experienced. I don't think Iheanacho falls into this category. The reason I gave these criteria for this category is because most Nigeria players of this age are sometimes in their prime. In regards to, Iheanacho is more experienced than Kayode, can you please explain with facts? Ahmed Musa has played majorly as CF than LW. He started from the NPFL. On category 3, I will go for Tammy Abraham if he decides to play for Nigeria. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:05pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:They have 1st class uppest in racism and thats just it to me. i wasnt generalizing though. behind cameras is the reality. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:26pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
safarigirl: Players that are or will be in their mid 20s to 27 during the world cup are the ones I placed in category 2 hence the reason I placed Iheanacho and Dessers in category 3. I should have explained better. Is it only Solanke ya eyes see? Solanke is still far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far ahead of Dessers and others on that list. ![]() He didn't go from Chelsea to Liverpool by fluke. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:30pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
goldfish80: Hahahahahah! ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:31pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Lol. They have a history of racism, slavery and oppression so they have to deal with the tag. However I was just stating a fact that hate based on race, tribe etc is pretty the same. daveP: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:34pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:I'm even tired of warning Tammy jare. off this, who would you prefer to head attack vs algeria? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:38pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
forgiveness:Oga, your definition of 'far far far....' ahead must be different from mine. so cos he cross carpetted, it means he is better than Dessers that scores anyhow. oh dont bring up league rankings cos Solanke isnt even a regular still. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:39pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Mickael2: Wow! That's a good one from you. Thanks Now, I can see there is light at the end of the tunnel for him. Initially, I thought his career has ended signing up for Lugo but it seems they are good afterall based on the results on ground. I don't think it's possible for him to get work permit because he has not played in top European League for two seasons now. This should be his 3rd season in the second tier of LA Liga. Thanks for the update on Ramon-Azeez and his club. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:41pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
They assume. You can only say they know if they are sure. Oftentimes their assumption could be wrong. So yes let's not reaffirm their beliefs. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:42pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
daveP: Ask liverpool-fc and Chelsea they will give a definition of far far far ahead. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:45pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Nwakaeme and Dessers as sub, if he gets the chance. I see this as final test for the bench warmers and an opportunity to cap-tie daveP: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:53pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
I spent about 15 years in the national team but those who do not know won’t believe it. I was a product of eight years before I broke into the national team. I started with the Green Eagles in November 1981. We started camp with 182 players and it was Rabar Madjer that denied us a place at the World Cup. That was the Chukwu, Odegbami era and the team was disbanded. When it was going to be rebuilt, over 140 players were invited and that was when I met the likes of Ben Iroha, Monday Eguavoen, Azuka Abor, Bright Omokaro, Peter Rufai, Steven Keshi and the late Benjamin Okorogwu who was my room mate at the NIS camp. When the team was cut to 60, I made the list and when it was cut to 30 I also made it and we began camping for the Libya’82 Nations Cup but I was dropped at the end of the day. http://www.transparentnigeria.com/news_entries/26308/Keshi,-Amokachi-ruined-US%E2%80%9994-Super-Eagles-%E2%80%93Moses-Kpakor An example how it was done back in the days. All these, this one scored in China, this one has a regular shirt in Hong Kong, this one the coach dropped on bench means he should not go to World Cup is all guess work. Unless someone can come up with another system that can give a precise method of screening out the best players for the country and give all the potential quality players a fair chance, we will keep going to tournaments and games without the best players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:53pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
forgiveness:You cant define that? i see. you make it sound like he'r benching even sturridge or emre can+performance that klopp would even praise. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
From the excerpt above, you can see that even the likes of players training together in camp gives the young ones exposure to training with quality players, which give them a chance to improve. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:58pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:Papi Rohr though... Wants to keep undefeated record. If this guy gives Rohr something other strikers dont give, he'l be unavoidable. Dessers&Vicmo may make good partners(based only on style of play around the box) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:01pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:with a change of how the game is viewed, dont you think it would ignite bad blood and section creation among them? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:07pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
daveP: Very nice question. That is where the ambition of the manager comes in to play. If the manager wants the best, he suppose to have his laid out strategies and tactics to prosecute the World Cup. Clearly defined requirements for each role. The selection will be based on merit. Only the best in each role gets the nod. Not League position, where you were born, regular playing time, where you are from or who you know. All these leads to a bias and sentimental selection. If the very best are selected, anyone having bad blood is against the success of the team and country. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:09pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
tbaba1234: I understand Eniola is a lawyer. She would have torn the FA to pieces if they went to court. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:10pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Thank you! I went to college in the East Coast. Bros, that man almost made me doubt myself .... because at that time I was just a newbie and wasn't well schooled in the "American school of racism" yet. He would make it sound like he's trying to push me to maximize my potential, but as time goes on I began to realize that there was a different agenda. I mean, I could score 2 goals but if we lose he would ask why I didn't score 3! In addition, anytime we lose it's because I didn't have a great game but when we win he would give the credit to almost everyone else before he remembers me. That's why I tend to sympathize with our players when these TV pundits pick on them for criticisms. Many of those folks have their own agendas and we ought to take everything they say with a big dose of salt. O pari tbaba1234: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:11pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:I mean as the cut down starts playing out like 70 reduces to 48 to 36 and so on. Besides talent isnt enough. Passion is what is currently driving our SE sef. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 5:12pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
FIXED TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 5:12pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
forgiveness: If Solanke wasn't British, he will be playing in the Dutch 2nd division or the Belgian Pro league at best. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:17pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
daveP: I did not see anyone get suicidal when Rohr makes cut for his final starting eleven. We need the best and not to please people. You can also get passion from the best players. If not sentiments, how can someone select a team based on passion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:22pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Icon79: Thank you for sharing your personal experience here. It was educative. This is the main reason why I find basing our team selection based on the choices of foreign club coaches detrimental to the team. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:22pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:24pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
My question to you. Where they mostly home based at the time? TheGoodJoe: |
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