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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:00pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Alhaji Gero score against Bilbao 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:01pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie: It is very feasible unless our current crop of players are no where close to the best we have. If they are not, then we are deceiving ourselves with the current squad thinking team spirit will fix our deficiencies. Also, most of the Foreign based players will gladly participate in a camping exercise if they have a shot of going to the World Cup. If we could camp in the nineties, especially, 1994 where we had a host of foreign-based players, including one who even came from Brazil, why is it rocket science today. You need the best players before you form a team. It will make blending, carrying out tactics and winning games occur easily. Than carrying a crap player who gets skinned repeatedly, hoping his high team spirt will possess and rescue him. The National camping is the best exercise to find out the best players. Even if it means camping in Europe to reduce logistical challenges, it should be done. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:04pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie: If the current crop of players are our best, very few will Edge them out and we still get to keep the crust of our team. However, if many gets edged out, then the team we have is obviously the stronger team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:06pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I would agree with you but will add ceteris paribus. I recall the exceptional Danny Shittu who was rendered a bench warmer and surplus to requirements at Bolton. I truly admire his mental resilience many players would have crumbled. He then went on to win best CD in the championship immediately after leaving relegated Bolton. For me outside of Yobo in that era in my opinion the best CB we had. I remember his game against Ghana when sprinted to the other goal after defending a corner and it only needed Osaze to square the ball and it would have been a goal, but he didn't. That not withstanding you cannot be a mouse in your parent club then come to the SE and become a Lion over night. It's not possible. What you do week in week out should be the justification for selection and invitation to the SE. But it's football you can always be proved wrong, Iwobi was essentially an academy player before he was invited to the SE. The rest we can say is History but then Iwobi went on to prove his quality with subsequent first team games. Decide not on the coaches opinion but the players performance. Using KC as an example he hasn't been able to adapt his game to the Leicester city style good or bad he has to adapt, which he has not been able to do. I have said before his true test will be when he leaves city surrounded by world class players that can make an average player look excellent. I didnt say he was average just making a point. His situation has nothing to do with the coach but himself. He may get lucky and a coach comes in that sets the team play to suit him. However it may get worse and a kick and rush typical blood and guts English manager comes in. At that stage he may find himself in the same position of Musa. My view is good strikers adapt no matter the situation. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:07pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Relatively unknown winger, James Adeniyi start for Albanian side, Skanderbeu. Theo Solomon not listed by Partizan. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:07pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Incredible personal experience my hat goes off to you. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:12pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: Origi was never a starter for Liverpool. Let's not talk up Origi likes he's some sort of world class player that was let go by Liverpool for Solanke to have a pathway. Solanke is a youth team player. He haven't done nada at the pro level. His team mate at Chelsea Bertrand Traoure, is a Full international for Burkina Faso with 2 AFCON experience under his belt (both semi finals appearance), Europa cup finalist with Ajax and 2 resounding good season in the Dutch top flight. This is what I call progression not playing U20 world cup. The jury is still out on Solanke. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:14pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Waiting to see Ademola play for Everton against Lyon watching it live.But he doesn't seem to be on the team sheet For sure Everton are going to be flooged like junior boys were go follow seniors fight. Lyon is a team of Africans United skill, speed and panacea. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:15pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Nowadays, inviting hundreds of players to camp is impractical. It wastes a lot of time. Most of the players in the 70s and 80s were home based so maybe it was easier. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:16pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Joebie:Gero is a nothing player. I watched him when he was in the NPFL prior to the U20 world cup and scratched my head how this guy could be a professional footballer. He is one of the worst players I've seen play for Nigeria at any level. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:20pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
tbaba1234: I agree with you. Football industry in the 80's wasn't as developed as it is now. The 80's solution cannot be applied in 2017. We are talking about 1982 when Volkagon beattle without a radiator was the coolest thing in town. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:28pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
goldfish80:one thing with thegoodjoe is that if he believes in something...I don't think any Jupiter can ever change his mind on that.... He will argue u till ages until u concur to his own 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:31pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:36pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Ubong Ekpai assist for Zlin 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:40pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
goldfish80: I remember Traore when he was at Chelsea he got capped by Burkina at about 16. He made the right moves going to Ajax now at Lyon teaching Everton how to play football. Solanke didnt do a lot in the Eredivisie but he tore up the script at the U20 world cup. Yes the jury is still out but he is looking very sharp for Liverpool, early days let's see. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:47pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: It is a learning stage for Iheanacho. Same goes to every player. You do not sign deals just because the money is good or a club wants you. If you noticed before Iheanacho's departure from City, I hammered on signing to a club that suits his style. The true test is not the challenge but his mindstate to bounce back. A lot of players have reached positions in clubs that did not work or suit them. A recent example, Lukaku. Lukaku flopping at Chelsea did not rub away his qualities. He was still a special talent. He went to a club that favored him, redirected his path and today, one of the most exceptional talents. Messi has not replicated his Barcelona status with Argentina. That does not write-off his Barcelona exploits. I hope a coach that suits Nacho comes. If not, he gets his British passport and jets off to a club that will suit and favor him. The rest is history. It must not be a big club but a club that plays open attractive attacking football. Concerning camping, if a player is doing it week in week out, it does not guarantee his quality. I remember how people hammered Kayode is a better choice because he is scoring in Austria and Iheanacho benching in City. I asked if Kayode would start at City. So why make Austria the right criteria. We need the best players. Not the most played players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:49pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
tbaba1234: I am still asking about the 90's. You guys are just hiding under the shell of 80's. In 1994, we camped a huge number. A lot from foreign clubs. So why was it practical in 1994 with foreign players and impractical now? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:55pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: Lukaku and Rashford could not replicate their good performances against Liverpool, due to the negative style of Mourinho. So expecting Iheanacho to adapt is farfetched. Brilliant great players make the right choices. Look at David Villa. When he was at Zaragoza, they were one of the fierce attacking sides in Spain. In a game, they put 8 goals past Real Madrid. Then he moved to another brilliant attacking Spanish side, Valencia. Then to one of the best attacking teams in the World, Barcelona. Today he is under one of the best attacking teams in the MLS. New York City FC. Playing with Lampard and Pirlo. Coached by Patrick Vieira. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:56pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I agree with you. Just one thing Lukaku didn't flop at Chelsea he was just not given an opportunity. In addition the small matter of in form powerful DD Drogba standing in his way. He then went on loans to premiership clubs and to dated has been tearing up the EPL since. I agree if KC was in Austria he would be free scoring for fun. This is why I say some of these boys tearing it up in lower level leagues will struggle to get into the youth teams of these top EPL clubs. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:58pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: Look at Suarez. From Ajax, to Liverpool. Two clubs with history of playing beautiful attacking football. Now he is at one of the best attacking sides. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:02pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: Not Getting a good run of games in a favored role is still part of flopping. Some people are saying Iheanacho must adapt to the Leicester System, even though it does not favor his style or give him the opportunity to showcase his talent. Lukaku in some games was played on the wing off his position. Iheanacho will do better if he is playing up top and they are sending all the balls to him. Unfortunately, Shakespeare refused even for few minutes to give Nacho that opportunity. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:08pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
AT LONG LAST Ademola Lookman has entered the game |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:10pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
Chei Ademola nearly score Dude is very hungry he has been starved of games. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:18pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I always say to forward players that that you must be able to play wing on both sides. Because you may not always be first choice striker. Being versatile is a good attribute. Indeed Balotelli, Thierry, Bolasie, Walcott, Wellbeck, Sanchez, Sturridge, Neymar, Mbappe, the list is endless. I can say that nearly all good top class strikers play or have played wing. It's almost an essential ingredient and requirement. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by damagnificentusb(m): 9:18pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: TheGoodJoe: TheGoodJoe:the coaches aint got that luxury of time to screen over 100 players,this idea is not feasioble. ....... THAT ALL 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:22pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: I do not get it. Iheanacho can play on the wings too. The problem with Shakespeare's system was apart from Vardy who is the target man of the long balls, those behind him suffer. Including the wingers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:22pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: To be honest I would never have advised KC to go to Leicester. You need a team thar wants to play good on the deck attacking football. Even Newcastle would have been better for him. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:24pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn:I saw Solanke at the u20 world cup, nothing special keep in mind a certain Adiya won golden ball at the 2009 edition and today not sure even heart of oak will include him in their B team. not trying to rubbish him o but then trying to hype him like he's some Aguero no be am he could improve and be a world beater or could go the way of them Francis Jeffers 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:24pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
komekn: Newcastle would have been far better and Benitez worked with a young Fernando Torres, making him a good candidate to nurture Nacho. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:32pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
forgiveness: This your list get as e be. These players do not deserve a look in, at least not now, maybe AFCON 2019 & Qatar '22. Aaron Samuel - I don't rate this one at all. He's not better than the tested and untested. Simeon Nwankwo - seriously?? He's not ready for this WC and he's below the pecking order currently. Tammy Abraham & Solanke - When dem switch?? I work with what's available, this is not some fantasy football team. Taiwo Awoniyi - He's just finding his foot in the Belgian league, he didn't have a great season at the Netherlands last year. Osimhen - Because Rorh called him for the SA game?? He had 45 mins of play last term and hasn't been seeing as much game time as he'd have loved this season. Should he be invited solely on his exploits at the U-17 level. Sadiq Umar - The one we saw at the '16 Olympics or another? Oh! his preseason games are just about enough?? I don't think so. He's not ready for now, maybe later. please and please, don't come at me with the "'ifs' and the 'ifs' not" I'm a realist and don't deal on unlikely possibilities. Lest I forget, why was Fanendo Adi not included, you think those you included are better than him? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:39pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
jihday: Francis Jeffers was pure rubbish can't believe Arsenal paid £10 million plus for him. Believe it or not he is a coach at yes Everton academy if I'm right. Watching the Everton vs Lyon game football is out the window index there was an exchange of blows it's Al fired up. Lyon are not used to blood and guts do or due football. They have forgotten thier technical football and are playing fighting football. They have played into Everton hands if na fight they want fight. Chei chei yeah Traore has remembered who he is a complete technical footballer. He just scored. However Lookman is without doubt Evertons best player on the field. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 9:42pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
tbaba1234:The east coast (NY especially) isn't that bad though(depending on where you live). I can never imagine myself living in places like SC and Alabama. Those guys are proper rednecks |
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