andrewza:




It was actually the Iraq regular army that folded. The special forces are not there to hold front lines.

Special forces were there to prevent infiltration - which they failed abysmally to do.

Mosul had fallen long before ISL "regulars" showed up, most of 3rd Div had moved off to conduct operations in Anbar, leaving special forces and the state security apparatus to hold and clear the rear.

But they failed, there were over 1 500 ISL militants in the city before the actual operation started - leaving the regular army hopelessly outnumbered and massively demoralized by the terror campaign ISL had conducted prior to the semi-conventional invasion. There was only really a battalion of police and army support staff left in the city when the attack went down.

The massive number of Iraqi army prisoners is a result of some super suspicious stuff that went down after Mosul had effectively fallen. Soldiers re-deploying from Anbar were told by senior leadership that they would get a weekends leave and were provided buses to "take them home". Busses """""somehow"""""""" delivered them straight to ISL.

patches689:
On an unrelated note?

Remember these assholes? Iraq's super operational operators who operated operationally in operational operations.

And got whooped by some illiterate ISL goon with a room temperature IQ.

Just goes to show: Gucci Kit =/= Gucci Moves

These same guys are getting back Iraq.

patches689:


Because they were fighting security forces
- attack civilians = terrorist
- attack security forces = militant

There is also the fact that the group is linked with the Muslim Brotherhood which muddies the waters - is the violence driven by politics or is it driven by Islam? I am sure we could argue that question for the next week!

Same issues arise with HAMAS.

nope ! all attacks on security forces , police in western country was described as terrorist attacks , i follow closely most europeen press and medias and its always the same . when you have inside terrorism, you start to notice this kind of difference in the use of words

check on google titles its easy to see on most western medias :

- Boko Haram' militants kill 48 villagers in attacks in north-east Nigeria .. the guardian

- most terrotist attack in algeria 90s 2000 against civilians most medias use the word militants, same for the last attack on gaz plant in 2013, same for attacks in egypt , pakistan , irak , nigeria ect...


dont know for english but in french , their is a big difference between a militant and a terrorist .

patches689:
On an unrelated note?

Remember these assholes? Iraq's super operational operators who operated operationally in operational operations.

And got whooped by some illiterate ISL goon with a room temperature IQ.

Just goes to show: Gucci Kit =/= Gucci Moves

Foreign doctrine is irrelevant in a local conflict. These guys got US specialized training to fight people who are not fighting by any rule.

patches689:


Because they were fighting security forces
- attack civilians = terrorist
- attack security forces = militant

There is also the fact that the group is linked with the Muslim Brotherhood which muddies the waters - is the violence driven by politics or is it driven by Islam? I am sure we could argue that question for the next week!

Same issues arise with HAMAS.

actual ISIS in sinai has killed Christians in egypt,some western media do call them militia but when a lone wolf carries terror attack in the west.they call him a terrorist

part of an AK "barrel" that landed in a house 100s of meters away from the scene of SVBIED attack

patches689:
Get a load of this guys settup... I just cant even

My end are the guys who wear NVGs and have thermal scopes on their rifle, in broad daylight!
I tell you, everybody operates operationally nowadays.

A SAM-16 Gimlet, found in a FDLR HQ near Mibirubiru, North Kivu Province, DRC.
Missing some components such as the battery, the grip stock as well as the power supply system.

Reports that 4 intact systems have also gone missing from FARDC stocks . Why these were even assigned to units in the Kivus - where belligerents don't fly around - beats me.
Same as the Ukrainian Hinds which initially deployed with ATGMs when cannon and rockets are all that's needed.

Sudanese soldiers in Yemen on top of a Saudi made "AL SHIBL 2 "light armored vehicle,with a mounted NSV heavy machine gun on the turret.

some america are b@tch what need is their for their troops to be in Africa after loosing special ops,like African states asked them to come in Africa. if they can't handle being in Africa they should leave(like we showed them,we don't even need their IMF or world bank)they can't even deliver aircraft which are being paid for,we need to treat them like how Egyptians are doing and shop else where.they keep b@tching how their tech is top notch

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnI7ebtIBfI

newafricaken254:
some america are b@tch what need is their for their troops to be in Africa after loosing special ops,like African states asked them to come in Africa. if they can't handle being in Africa they should leave(like we showed them,we don't even need their IMF or world bank)they can't even deliver aircraft which are being paid for,we need to treat them like how Egyptians are doing and shop else where.they keep b@tching how their tech is top notch

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnI7ebtIBfI

Our leaders have eaten vegetables. Won ti je efor riro pelu iru.

Kenya Defence forces Kismayu landing operation

newafricaken254:
some america are b@tch what need is their for their troops to be in Africa after loosing special ops,like African states asked them to come in Africa. if they can't handle being in Africa they should leave(like we showed them,we don't even need their IMF or world bank)they can't even deliver aircraft which are being paid for,we need to treat them like how Egyptians are doing and shop else where.they keep b@tching how their tech is top notch

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnI7ebtIBfI

wtf is this rant?

Its incomprehensible!

tdayof:


These same guys are getting back Iraq.

Nope, that would be the """"popular mobilization forces"""" (totally not, at all, in any way, whatsoever, Iranian regulars), Kurds and Iraqi regulars.

KDF Afmadow operation

Algerian1:

dont know for english but in french , their is a big difference between a militant and a terrorist .

Personally I dont see much a difference between the words. Terrorist simply implies immoral motive. Militant is equally ambiguous.

patches689:


wtf is this rant?

Its incomprehensible!

Dissociative Identity Disorder is serious problem

kenyan soldiers supplying water to a school in Merti, Isiolo. cushioning people & livestock in hard hit areas.

The tri-service Guard Of Honour led by Lieutenant Colonel Meshack Kishoyan of the 9th Battalion Kenya Rifles at Mashujaa Day 2017

patches689:


Nope, that would be the """"popular mobilization forces"""" (totally not, at all, in any way, whatsoever, Iranian regulars), Kurds and Iraqi regulars.

These guys were involved in getting back MOSUL.

SEAL

SPETNAZ


.
TWO OF THE WORLD'S DEADLIEST.

patches689:


Special forces were there to prevent infiltration - which they failed abysmally to do.

Mosul had fallen long before ISL "regulars" showed up, most of 3rd Div had moved off to conduct operations in Anbar, leaving special forces and the state security apparatus to hold and clear the rear.

But they failed, there were over 1 500 ISL militants in the city before the actual operation started - leaving the regular army hopelessly outnumbered and massively demoralized by the terror campaign ISL had conducted prior to the semi-conventional invasion. There was only really a battalion of police and army support staff left in the city when the attack went down.

The massive number of Iraqi army prisoners is a result of some super suspicious stuff that went down after Mosul had effectively fallen. Soldiers re-deploying from Anbar were told by senior leadership that they would get a weekends leave and were provided buses to "take them home". Busses """""somehow"""""""" delivered them straight to ISL.

That's not the job of SF. SF are not there to police lines. In South Africa that job is for regular motorized infantry, military police hell normal police.


What they where tasked to do was not a job they could do. They fought a rear guard. A job they not there to do. I won't knock them

EMW01:
Kenya Defence forces Kismayu landing operation

Do you have anything more? I was told the actual video of the op would be used as a training curriculum at the AFTC and then be released-then radio silence.

lionel4power:
SEAL

SPETNAZ


.
TWO OF THE WORLD'S DEADLIEST.

Witch spetnaz. Spetnaz is a term given to ever spealized unit. You could have a accountant spetnaz team. Are these VMF, GRU, VDV lots of options.

frumentius:
A SAM-16 Gimlet, found in a FDLR HQ near Mibirubiru, North Kivu Province, DRC.
Missing some components such as the battery, the grip stock as well as the power supply system.

Reports that 4 intact systems have also gone missing from FARDC stocks . Why these were even assigned to units in the Kivus - where belligerents don't fly around - beats me.
Same as the Ukrainian Hinds which initially deployed with ATGMs when cannon and rockets are all that's needed.

Could fear a attack from a out side nation like rawanda or Uganda

lionel4power:
SEAL
SPETNAZ

. TWO OF THE WORLD'S DEADLIEST.

and why is this here na

Btw,anyone noticed the popularity of the AR platform? Everyone from the major gun makers like Sig with their AR 10 seen here,HK,FN,Colt,S&W, Barret Rifles and the smaller builders like Wilson,Daniel Defense,Bravo company etc, etc have an AR platform loaded in the original 5.56 mm,6.8mm to 7.62 NATO and x39mm.

Imo,it must be the modularity,the speed of changing the lower and upper receiver and basic simple effective design.

3d game flight simulator . Algerian mig 29

andrewza:



Could fear a attack from a out side nation like rawanda or Uganda

Rwanda's proxy, M23 is largely a spent force and Kagame's western sponsors warned him against reviving it. Uganda has more pressing concerns in Somalia, besides serving as a lucrative conduit for illegally extracted DRC minerals.

It is no secret that the largest source of arms for DRC rebels is corrupt FARDC personnel. The shambolic record-keeping of the FARDC is deliberately maintained so corruption may flourish.

frumentius:

Rwanda's proxy, M23 is largely a spent force and Kagame's western sponsors warned him against reviving it. Uganda has more pressing concerns in Somalia, besides serving as a lucrative conduit for illegally extracted DRC minerals.

It is no secret that the largest source of arms for DRC rebels is corrupt FARDC personnel. The shambolic record-keeping of the FARDC is deliberately maintained so corruption may flourish.

I mean does any one know how long they where there? All so can we confirm there are no more manpads in country.

kikuyu1:


Do you have anything more? I was told the actual video of the op would be used as a training curriculum at the AFTC and then be released-then radio silence.

Got the pics from a Kenya Navy documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDBB27PmZ8Y.

egyptian police Sherpa Light 4x4 light tactical vehicle