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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 8:32pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: exactly my thoughts,tho I'm not really a fan of the defensive approach of mou,buy looking at d bigger picture in the cl,this our defense might just save us..when we scored against spurs,I was with a Chelsea fan who was trying to ease me that there's no way we would concede..mou has drilled those defenders well,and we also have degea btw d sticks...just for our attack to b more cohesive and efficient..its just really painful that any slight drop of form,d way most here call for his head is sad.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:33pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
patrickmuf:Hahahahhahah.hahah. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:41pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: At the beginning of the season, Barca was the team in crisis and many predicted their demise, and the beginning of Madrid dominance When any small team gets a result in the EPL we always hear the chorus of praise about how it only happens in England 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:44pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
dubylhover: You nailed it. I dont like defensive game at all!!!!. But imagine if we manage to get a 1-1 away draw at Barca in the semi-finals of the UCL. Mourinho can comfortably get a home 0-0 to advance. A mourihno team can never take a 5-3 lead to Monaco and crash out at the end. People who bash Mourinho are just bandwagoners, most things people say about him are just fallacy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:52pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:EPL has six teams capable of winning the league, not even considering the "Leicesteresque" possibility, same cannot be said of Laliga and Burnthisleaguedown. What are your grievances with EPL? Your man support base 'burnthisleaguedown' has been trading waters recently you seem to be tactically overtly sympathetic toward laliga. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:52pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: I disagree with most of these. 1. Your opponent cannot hurt you if they dont have the ball 2. When you are on the offence, your mistakes are less deadly than when you are on the defence 3. When defending, your margin for error is minimal. 4. Its better to fight in your opponents territory than in yours. 5. Ball travels faster than human, better to make the ball work than making the players work 6. Whoever has the ball can express his ideas with it, than those without it 7. More attacking teams win trophies than defensive teams The most successful football nation Brazil an attacking side, the most successful club in history Madrid is an attacking side 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:54pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: LOL who are these 6 teams capable of winning the EPL? Arsenal or Liverpool? Arsenal has as much chance as Valencia and Liverpool has as much chance to win as Sevilla Recently sympathetic towards La Liga? then you are a newbie on this forum |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:55pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Thats is Mourinho's school of thought. You are correct though |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:03pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Laliga has been dangling between barca and madrid for the past ten years. Leicester, Man United, Chelsea, Manchester City has won it in this period |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 9:04pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:It's not as simple as that When you count the number of top games Jose has won with 30% possession or less, it will be obvious that the team with more possession made more errors. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:04pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: There is an Atletico who won the La Liga in the past 10yrs In case you have forgotten. Leicester is a one off which might never be replicated again in hstory right now they are back to where they belong midtable |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: In football, attacking teams are generally more successful than defensive teams. That is why attacking players are more expensive and teams mostly seek to be more attacking while defensive football is seen as the tactic of the weak or inferior Obviously there will be exceptions when a defensive team wins but overall more success goes to attacking teams In the last 10yrs only 2 teams won the CL by being defensive Chelsea and Inter 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ctuagent007: 9:08pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: There are no 6 teams "capable" of winning the epl....it is the English media white fallacy on hyping the league. There are only 3 teams & they are Utd, City & Chelsea. U are not a baby that I should convince or the media or 9ja so-called journalist should cajole any how. Liverpull, Arse.NAL or Totoham are just make-up No's like Atletico de Madrid in every years ucl |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 9:13pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:The team with better quality is generally more successful, not just the more attacking team, else Arsenal should have won countless number of EPL title. Italian teams had successes both in WCs and CLs been defensive, it's about tactics not being inferior. Brazil is a counter attacking team, not an all out attacking team. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:17pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: Brazil is the greatest attacking team in history, I dont know when Brazil became a counter attacking team. A country with Pele Ronaldo Dinho Romario etc The term jogo bonito is used to describe their football AC Milan the most successful Italian team in Europe was an attacking team. Madrid, AC Milan, Barcelona Bayern are the most succesful teams in the CL all attacking teams 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:30pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
LoRdCaT: It's not the term tho.. buh the usage. Babayoko a defensive winger? LMAOOO |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:32pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
"He [Luke Shaw] as a future here but the situation is not easy because he comes from injury after injury after injury he needs two, three, four, five or six matches in a row to play, to make mistakes, to get condition, to get match fitness and I cannot give him that. “If he was a central midfielder then yes, because we only have two but at left back we have so many options. So the situation is not easy. But he is in the squad, he works and maybe the opportunity comes.” - Jose Mourinho |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 9:38pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Brazil is a counter attacking team, any time any day. Brazil will never go on all out attack from minutes 0-90. Netherland is probably the greatest attacking team in history. Juventus was even more attacking that AC Milan. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dongorgon5(m): 9:38pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Lol,I now know why this Egbon likes pep........You're another pep disciple |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 9:46pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_FIFA_World_Cup_Final View the possession against China and Germany @Raumdeuter |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:59pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: So if I show you a game Barcelona has lower possesion means Barca is a counter attacking side 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:00pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
Dongorgon5: All points are right, which one can you dispute |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:00pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: Ask people who know football they will tell you that you are very wrong on all accounts |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 10:04pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:That's to show their stats(variation) against a very weak team and a very strong team. There are many stats to prove it. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dongorgon5(m): 10:04pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:You're right,you just have the same idea of football with pep |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:10pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: What was their possesion vs China and vs Germany ? I cannot see it |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 10:25pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
ToyinDipo: How is Juve more attacking than Milan? How much more attacking can you get than trashing the dream team 4-0?. If only we played a little bit more conservatively, they'll be no talk of "The Miracle of Istanbul". PS: No team goes out all attacking from minute 0-90. Not even the dutch. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:29pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Bayern and Barca are not more successful in Cl than Liverpool, All 4 CL wins by Liverpool prior to 2005 was done with a total defensive set up. Their last triumph (2005) was done by Benitez who is not known for champagne football. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:33pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: I didnt watch any of Liverpools wins before 2005. So if I give you Liverpool 2005 as a defensive victory. So how many defensive wins have we had since the turn of the millenium there have been 18 CL seasons since then Another angle, Assuming without conceding Liverpool won all 5 CL by being defensive then we have Madrid attacking Milan attacking Barca attacking Liverpool defending Bayern attacking 4 attacking 1 defensive of the top 5. This actually makes my point that disprove it 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 10:38pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Man united of 2008 is not totally an attacking team, infact inter 2010 scored 10 goals and conceded 3 in knockout rounds while United Scored just seven and conceded just 2. If you remove their match against group whipping boys D.kiev. United scored just 12 goals in 11 games, thats1.09 goals per game this doesnt sound attacking to me, its still boils down to what Toyindipo said that the team with the overall better quality wins not just attacking teams. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 10:42pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
raumdeuter:44% against Germany |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 10:42pm On Oct 29, 2017 |
CapitalCee: In 2008 Man Utd scored 20 goals in the competition and Inter scored 17 goals |
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