Humility017:

list two young Defensive Midfieder who you think should have been called up in place of chidi nwakali?

if none...please stop the fuss of trying to pull down the Norwegian league....and trying to make mockery of the rationale for the invitation of the young man......

I WILL DO NO SUCH THING.

It's not mockery it's a rational appraisal based on substantive constructive criticism.

Please contend with me with facts, figures reasoned logical comparison and not sentimental subjective preference underpinned with nothing.

komekn:


I WILL DO NO SUCH THING.

It's not mockery it's a rational appraisal based on substantive constructive criticism.

Please contend with me with facts, figures reasoned logical comparison and not sentimental subjective preference underpinned with nothing.

I have asked you to list 2 DM players who you think should have been invited in his stead...
rather you gave name of a winger...I want a Defensive midfielder who you think is playing better than him....and is eligible to play for us....

please....I respect you much.but your present cry...makes no sense...
football is not sum of filty unrealistic theories you always use to ridicule this players and their clubs....

mind you even the English or better still brazil don't go wit this watery postulations you put up here...there are mainly illusions that don't go wit the round leather game...

the guy plays regularly for his club and he is among the first and best 11 in that team...
even though the league is not of top quality but he is playing and playing well....
you think every player is privilege to possess a British passport to play in the epl....late Rashidi yekini was still playing in the portuguess 2nd tier league...when he began to paint our football wit goals...

you're always quick to judge this players...and that's not good...I expect much from you....

MilitaryControl:


How Nacho escaped the basics of simple ball control confuses me. He's been footballing since early teens. He even featured in NFF's U13.

I find it incomprehensible. Although I don't think his touch is shocking but could be a lot better and his very left footed bias an issue.

He spent a considerable time at Manchester City esteemed football academy. he should have learned a lot add that to the DRILLS some have mentioned the infallible Pep has been giving him.

Humility017:

Okazaki is one of the most skillful and hardworking player in that team...
since the start of the season....he has been in top form...
so no one expect nacho to displace him just like that....
I believe nacho progression in the club is on a steady part...he played over 30 mins today ..with a good assist to vardy. ..I believe the English man was in a good position to convert only poor decisons cost him that goal....

so presently nacho is doing fine...

I have seen some of your comments aim at digging deep at the young man....
even mocking him a bench warmer...

good for you though...just your opinion and it holds no water...anyway

I can make a joke out of anything, like when theGoodJoe suddenly forgot that he used to say that a coach isn't always the 'all-knowing', does that mean anything? The joke about him being on the bench was because Mujtahida assumed he started the game.....why am I going this long, Oga if you do not understand the difference between a joke and a serious comment then just face your lane and leave those who understand a joke to laugh about it.


Then about Okazaki, read through the comments, there were PEOPLE saying he should start ahead of Okazaki, I don't know why you are now assuming a defensive position, I don't even know how you entered this argument now

Mickael2:



I can make a joke out of anything, like when theGoodJoe suddenly forgot that he used to say that a coach isn't always the 'all-knowing', does that mean anything? The joke about him being on the bench was because Mujtahida assumed he started the game.....why am I going this long, Oga if you do not understand the difference between a joke and a serious comment then just face your lane and leave those who understand a joke to laugh about it.


Then about Okazaki, read through the comments, there were PEOPLE saying he should start ahead of Okazaki, I don't know why you are now assuming a defensive position, I don't even know how you entered this argument now

if you want me stay on my lane...I think then you don't have to comment here...because here is an open thread eligible for everyone.

Humility017:

Adegbenro Samuel is not a Defensive Midfieder...
I asked for a Defensive Midfieder...
if you look at Nigeria eligible players in Europe...
they're enough wingers...even strikers.....ahead of Samuel....
though I agree he may be on the coach watch list....even Paul is...

but a Defensive Midfieder I guess you've none..?

Is he better than Hope Akpan, Chuks Aneke,
Tega Onomah, Seyi Ojo, to start with I could have added Oviemuno Ejaria but he is undecided as far as I am concerned. But could be convinced.

That's just a few in England.

komekn:


Is he better than Hope Akpan, Chuks Aneke,
Tega Onomah, Seyi Ojo, to start with I could have added Oviemuno Ejaria but he is undecided as far as I am concerned. But could be convinced.

That's just a few in England.

the later two you named...are not eligible to play for US.....
they're British players...
and for hope and chuks...
please tell me their achievements this season....and their contributions to their team success....
we are talking of a player here wit good defensive qualities and offensive threat of good shots...

let me say this without mincing words...currently he is better than both...don't forget the young man is a man city player and the reason why he is not playing in England is because of work permit rules.....

komekn:


Is he better than Hope Akpan, Chuks Aneke,
Tega Onomah, Seyi Ojo, to start with I could have added Oviemuno Ejaria but he is undecided as far as I am concerned. But could be convinced.

That's just a few in England.

This is the problem. When they say mention and you come up with British born Nigerians whose allegiance to Nigeria is either non existent or hanging by whiskers it frustrates me. Nwakali has been invited. Pronto he'd be in camp come when camp opens. If Seyi, Tega, Ejaria are invited today will it be smooth sailing? You know that saying na: a bird in hand.....

Humility017:


if you want me stay on my lane...I think then you don't have to comment here...because here is an open thread eligible for everyone.

I have no problem with you quoting me or arguing with me, where I have a problem is you jumping into something you don't understand, or you making erroneous inferences without following the argument properly.


For the record I didn't say Iheanacho was bad, just that his performance today does not merit a starting shirt ahead of Okazaki, did I lie?

Mickael2:



I have no problem with you quoting me or arguing with me, where I have a problem is you jumping into something you don't understand, or you making erroneous inferences without following the argument properly.


For the record I didn't say Iheanacho was bad, just that his performance today does not merit a starting shirt ahead of Okazaki, did I lie?

who is saying you said nacho was bad...nah...probably you decoded my quote wrongly...
I only added your earlier words on nacho...now being a bench warmer which you just replied to be a joke.

and for your question....okazaki deserve a starting berth...and besides nacho is nt doing badly...

Mujtahida:

This is the problem. When they say mention and you come up with British born Nigerians whose allegiance to Nigeria is either non existent or hanging by whiskers it frustrates me. Nwakali has been invited. Pronto he'd be in camp come when camp opens. If Seyi, Tega, Ejaria are invited today will it be smooth sailing? You that saying na: a bird in hand.....

Hope Akpan has already played for Nigeria.

Chuks Aneke has already indicative his desire for Nigeria.

Seyi will say yes but he's recovering from injury. Onomah deh wait just like Iorfa.

Ejaria is still in the infancy stage of his career I actually think he has more to learn.

My first choice of all them is Chuks Aneke, is an enigma as big as he is 6.5 he's still quite fast. Technically very good Arsene Wenger likened him to Yaya Toure.

komekn:


Is he better than Hope Akpan, Chuks Aneke,
Tega Onomah, Seyi Ojo, to start with I could have added Oviemuno Ejaria but he is undecided as far as I am concerned. But could be convinced.

That's just a few in England.

Chuks Aneke is not a DM...his best position is as an AM.

edi287:

Chuks Aneke is not a DM...his best position is as an AM.

That's not true.

Playing as a AM gets you headlines however, I have watched him play DM. Very good distributor of the ball too and commands the air.

Did you know that Ibe played right back at Liverpool under Brendan quite often.

Yobo played his first ever game as a defender at RB for Nigeria. He was a RW at Marseille.

Not all players can be pigeonholed some are equally proficient in two or three roles.

komekn:


That's not true.

Playing as a AM gets you headlines however, I have watched him play DM. Very good distributor of the ball too and commands the air.

Did you know that Ibe played right back at Liverpool under Brendan quite often.

Yobo played his first ever game as a defender at RB for Nigeria. He was a RW at Marseille.

Not all players can be pigeonholed some are equally proficient in two or three roles.

He's too slow to play as a DM. I watched him constantly when he was on loan at Crewe. He scored 16 goals that season playing as a AM. Arsenal let him leave because they was too much competition at the AM spot and he was too slow to play as a DM.

Talking point: When four four two magazine compiled a list of 100 greatest footballers not even a single African( not even the great George Opong Weah who in 1995 won the World best, the Ballon d'or and Apoty) not to talk of Nigerian was mentioned. However this list of football LEGENDS by the German based IFFHS contains at least seven Africans including Rabah Madjer, George Weah, Lucas Radabe, Roger Milla and our own Kanu Nwankwo

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WHO IS NIGERIA'S GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME? IFFHS Provides Answer (Full List 48 Legend Players)
Published: November 03, 2017
Football statisticians, International Federation of Football History & Statistics (IFFHS), has published on its official webpage the 48 football legend players.
Of the 48 legends of the game picked by the German-based organization, only one Nigerian, former Arsenal striker Nwankwo Kanu, made the prestigious list.
Other famous names selected are Diego Maradona (Argentina), Pele (Brazil), Ronaldo (Brazil), Roger Milla (Cameroon), Zinedine Zidane (France), Gerd Muller (Germany), Roberto Baggio (Italy), George Weah (Liberia) and Ruud Gullit (Netherlands).
Kanu became the only Nigerian to win the African Player of the Year award twice when he scooped the accolade for 1999 after winning it in 1997.
The striker helped Nigeria win the 1993 Fifa U17 World Cup and 1996 Olympic gold medal in football.
He won the Champions League with Ajax Amsterdam in 1995, UEFA Cup with Inter Milan in 1998, three Eredivisie titles, two Premier League titles and the FA Cup three times.
48 Football Legends
Rabah Madjer (Algeria)
Alfredo Stéfano Di Stéfano (Spain)
Diego Maradona (Argentina)
Pele (Brazil)
Manuel Francisco dos Santos (Brazil)
Ronaldo de Lima (Brazil)
Zico (Brazil)
Roger Milla (Cameroon)
Hao Haidong (China)
Sun Jihai (China)
Mahmoud El-Khatib (Egypt)
Mohamed Aboutrika (Egypt)
Michel Platini (France)
Zinedine Zidane (France)
Franz Anton Beckenbauer (Germany)
Gerd Muller (Germany)
Lothar Matthaus (Germany)
Ferenc Puskas (Hungary)
Baichung Bhutia (India)
Ali Daei (Iran)
Dino Zoff (Italy)
Roberto Baggio (Italy)
Hidetoshi Nakata (Japan)
Cha Bum-kun (South Korea)
Jasem Yaqoub Sultan Al-Besara (Kuwait)
George Weah (Liberia)
Antonio Carbajal (Mexico)
Hugo Sánchez (Mexico)
Hendrik Johannes Cruijff (Netherlands)
Marco Van Basten (Netherlands)
Ruud Gullit (Netherlands)
Wynton Alan Whai Rufer (New Zealand)
Nwankwo Kanu (Nigeria)
José Luis Félix Chilavert González (Paraguay)
Eusébio (Portugal)
Luis Figo (Portugal)
Lev Ivanovich Yashin (Soviet Union)
Majed Ahmed Abdullah (Saudi Arabia)
Francisco Gento (Spain)
Tanju çolak (Turkey)
Oleh Volodymyrovych Blokhin (Ukraine)
Bobby Charlton (England)
David Beckham (England)
Stanley Matthews (England)
Juan Alberto Schiaffino (Uruguay)
Landon Timothy Donovan (USA)
Lucas Radebe (South Africa)
Ryan Giggs (Wales)
Ifeanyi Emmanuel
Photo Credit : arsenal.com

komekn:


Hope Akpan has already played for Nigeria.

Chuks Aneke has already indicative his desire for Nigeria.

Seyi will say yes but he's recovering from injury. Onomah deh wait just like Iorfa.

Ejaria is still in the infancy stage of his career I actually think he has more to learn.

My first choice of all them is Chuks Aneke, is an enigma as big as he is 6.5 he's still quite fast. Technically very good Arsene Wenger likened him to Yaya Toure.

This Seyi injury no dey finish?
About the rest: even if we invite them today they can't play. Let's be realistic.

komekn:


That's not true.

Playing as a AM gets you headlines however, I have watched him play DM. Very good distributor of the ball too and commands the air.

Did you know that Ibe played right back at Liverpool under Brendan quite often.

Yobo played his first ever game as a defender at RB for Nigeria. He was a RW at Marseille.

Not all players can be pigeonholed some are equally proficient in two or three roles.

Can I get clips of his videos?

Iheanacho's offside goal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtY3YlgcAls

edi287:

Chuks Aneke is not a DM...his best position is as an AM.

I've watched him. Dude is more of an AM. He won't do well as a DM. But he packs good shots in both feet and he doesn't hesitate, in fact he loves to shoot. I think he'd be good at free kicks if he practices them.

Joebie:
I was part of the debate from start.. no be me post the list for here?

Which list?

Of course Nwankwo Kanu based on club performance.

Mujtahida:
Talking point: When four four two magazine compiled a list of 100 greatest footballers not even a single African( not even the great George Opong Weah who in 1995 won the World best, the Ballon d'or and Apoty) not to talk of Nigerian was mentioned. However this list of football LEGENDS by the German based IFFHS contains at least five Africans, Rabah Madjer, George Weah, Lucas Radabe, Roger Milla and our own Kanu Nwankwo

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WHO IS NIGERIA'S GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME? IFFHS Provides Answer (Full List 48 Legend Players)
Published: November 03, 2017
Football statisticians, International Federation of Football History & Statistics (IFFHS), has published on its official webpage the 48 football legend players.
Of the 48 legends of the game picked by the German-based organization, only one Nigerian, former Arsenal striker Nwankwo Kanu, made the prestigious list.
Other famous names selected are Diego Maradona (Argentina), Pele (Brazil), Ronaldo (Brazil), Roger Milla (Cameroon), Zinedine Zidane (France), Gerd Muller (Germany), Roberto Baggio (Italy), George Weah (Liberia) and Ruud Gullit (Netherlands).
Kanu became the only Nigerian to win the African Player of the Year award twice when he scooped the accolade for 1999 after winning it in 1997.
The striker helped Nigeria win the 1993 Fifa U17 World Cup and 1996 Olympic gold medal in football.
He won the Champions League with Ajax Amsterdam in 1995, UEFA Cup with Inter Milan in 1998, three Eredivisie titles, two Premier League titles and the FA Cup three times.
48 Football Legends
Rabah Madjer (Algeria)
Alfredo Stéfano Di Stéfano (Spain)
Diego Maradona (Argentina)
Pele (Brazil)
Manuel Francisco dos Santos (Brazil)
Ronaldo de Lima (Brazil)
Zico (Brazil)
Roger Milla (Cameroon)
Hao Haidong (China)
Sun Jihai (China)
Mahmoud El-Khatib (Egypt)
Mohamed Aboutrika (Egypt)
Michel Platini (France)
Zinedine Zidane (France)
Franz Anton Beckenbauer (Germany)
Gerd Muller (Germany)
Lothar Matthaus (Germany)
Ferenc Puskas (Hungary)
Baichung Bhutia (India)
Ali Daei (Iran)
Dino Zoff (Italy)
Roberto Baggio (Italy)
Hidetoshi Nakata (Japan)
Cha Bum-kun (South Korea)
Jasem Yaqoub Sultan Al-Besara (Kuwait)
George Weah (Liberia)
Antonio Carbajal (Mexico)
Hugo Sánchez (Mexico)
Hendrik Johannes Cruijff (Netherlands)
Marco Van Basten (Netherlands)
Ruud Gullit (Netherlands)
Wynton Alan Whai Rufer (New Zealand)
Nwankwo Kanu (Nigeria)
José Luis Félix Chilavert González (Paraguay)
Eusébio (Portugal)
Luis Figo (Portugal)
Lev Ivanovich Yashin (Soviet Union)
Majed Ahmed Abdullah (Saudi Arabia)
Francisco Gento (Spain)
Tanju çolak (Turkey)
Oleh Volodymyrovych Blokhin (Ukraine)
Bobby Charlton (England)
David Beckham (England)
Stanley Matthews (England)
Juan Alberto Schiaffino (Uruguay)
Landon Timothy Donovan (USA)
Lucas Radebe (South Africa)
Ryan Giggs (Wales)
Ifeanyi Emmanuel
Photo Credit : arsenal.com

Rohr's newly released list

forgiveness:


Which list?

Komekn, from your list na only Hope fit shoe up for camp immediately should we give him a call up.
So let's start the real argument-- Hope Akpan vs C. Nwakali.

So you and forgiveness are suggesting Akpan and Lawal instead. Or are there other valid names?

Mujtahida:

This is the problem. When they say mention and you come up with British born Nigerians whose allegiance to Nigeria is either non existent or hanging by whiskers it frustrates me. Nwakali has been invited. Pronto he'd be in camp come when camp opens. If Seyi, Tega, Ejaria are invited today will it be smooth sailing? You know that saying na: a bird in hand.....

My 35. Only players who have agreed to commit to Nigeria included. i.e Dessers, Beyreuther. and Otigba. For injury concerns I MAY have to consider Azeez for J. Obi, Iorfa for Nura

Modified
Etebo for Kalu

Man City Loanee Kayode May Get Eleventh-Hour Call-Up To Nigeria Squad



Manchester City loanee Olanrewaju Kayode may be called up to the Nigerian national team at the eleventh hour following the injuries suffered by three players initially named to the 24-man roster.
Ex-Watford star Odion Ighalo has withdrawn from the squad after spraining his knee, while Gent winger Moses Simon and Trabzonspor midfielder Eddy Onazi might also be lost to injuries.
Since making his competitive debut against South Africa in June, Kayode was omitted from the pool that faced Cameroon and Zambia, and was not even placed on standby for the games against Algeria and Argentina.
''Kayode may now replace Ighalo more so that Moses Simon and Onazi are huge injury doubts,'' a Super Eagles official told SCORENigeria.com.ng.
After an indifferent start to his career in Spain with Girona, Kayode has impressed in his last two matches in the Spanish top-flight against Deportivo de La Coruña and Real Madrid.
The former Golden Eaglets and Flying Eagles star has made ten appearances in La Liga, and has two assists to his name.

Igho Kingsley

source: ANS

Joebie:
My 35. Only players who have agreed to commit to Nigeria included. i.e Dessers, Beyreuther. and Otigba. For injury concerns I MAY have to consider Azeez for J. Obi, Iorfa for Nura

your football knowledge is out of this world...
I think rohr need you in his team....

Humility017:

list two young Defensive Midfieder who you think should have been called up in place of chidi nwakali?

if none...please stop the fuss of trying to pull down the Norwegian league....and trying to make mockery of the rationale for the invitation of the young man......

Sanusi Ryan cousin of Dembele is better than him.

Raheem lawal
Brian Idowu
Hope Akpan

C'mon, you don't think that KC can start ahead of anyone of them? Oh my, oh my ....how is the mighty fallen?

Listen, Kelechi can actually start for the current Barca team. He's better than Paco Alcacer, Deulofeu, and I may even start him ahead of the misfiring Luis Suarez.


O pari

Mickael2:



so.....who will he bench in Sevilla? Guedes? Zaza? Rodrigo?

komekn:


Never played first team.

Not too long ago actually earlier this year about February. It was made intrinsically clear to that he didn’t want to play for England.

I have heard talk that he does now.

Which may not be surprising he wants to go to the World cup and he is a forgotten man as far as England is concerned.

Since we talking Norway moi moi league.

What about 21 year old Samuel Adegbenro in one of the two stand out quality teams in that league. Plays for Rosenburg FC as winger 13 games this season in all competitions and 5 goals.

I wonder why the esteemed scouting crew of the NFF never noticed him. But somehow went to the bottom third to club and said Aha !!! Real quality.

See as you just dey open fowl yanch

Thanks bro..I dey float for cloud now lol

Humility017:

your football knowledge is out of this world...
I think rohr need you in his team....

Adegbenro would have made my list but for Nwakaeme who also plays as a left winger

komekn:


Never played first team.

Not too long ago actually earlier this year about February. It was made intrinsically clear to that he didn’t want to play for England.

I have heard talk that he does now.

Which may not be surprising he wants to go to the World cup and he is a forgotten man as far as England is concerned.

Since we talking Norway moi moi league.

What about 21 year old Samuel Adegbenro in one of the two stand out quality teams in that league. Plays for Rosenburg FC as winger 13 games this season in all competitions and 5 goals.

I wonder why the esteemed scouting crew of the NFF never noticed him. But somehow went to the bottom third to club and said Aha !!! Real quality.

komekn:


I WILL DO NO SUCH THING.

It's not mockery it's a rational appraisal based on substantive constructive criticism.

Please contend with me with facts, figures reasoned logical comparison and not sentimental subjective preference underpinned with nothing.

Kpom