tbaba1234:
4 important players out, imagine if this was a WC decider.

Humility017:

see how you try to bury face....after your call for fegor ogude was refuted on substantial facts...

I have say this over and over again...
many a time this postulation of yours don't work...it is not about the league ranking but the potential of the player in question...


you should know this things.....this players are not as fortunate as the Europeans or south Americans coupled wit their greedy agents to get high ranking leagues to play....


you looking for all loopholes to justify your wayside belief that the invitation of nwakali was not on track....

I expect you to move on by now...

komekn:


Russian league ranked 6th in Europe how many Nigerian play in that league

Fegor Ogude plays in the same club as Brian Idowu forgotten to as well.

Why are they being forgotten They are not youth players but seasoned professionals playing at a very good level regularly.

Or maybe they need to go to Norway in a backwater leagues and in a bottom club. Then they might be seen by the esteemed scouting team of the NFF.

Humility017:

I read somewhere...even mikel agu is battling fitness issues

tbaba1234:


If you go back far enough when Fanendi Adi was in form, you will see several suggestions that he should be invited. He is an MLS player.

I have shared updates on Adi on this page.

As regards these proven players, where are they? If they exist, they have been talked about here.

If you are talking about players whose international alleigiances are not guaranteed, then we can only really talk when they make an international commitment.

Humility017:

cc: komekn

please read this your last paragraph...and tell what it depicts...

komekn:


Yes I do recall but that's just one in the MLS.

I am certain there must be hundreds of Nigerian origin players in the MLS but we seem to have hit a blank. I haven't had any reference to one.

In England we have way too many Nigerian origin players on the fringes of first team football almost in every EPL club.

My initial view is that let them break into first team football and or prove thier quality in a good team and league.

But I notice we have players in far lower leagues who have played very few first team games and are already in the SE selection.

In comparison to say players like Dominic Iorfa and Freddie Onyedinma who have played 111 and 140 games respectively. Games played at mainly championship level which for mid level EPL and above is the first scouting point for players.

We discuss the ones the NFF flag up what abouy the ones they have not. Once again I can talk about England. I want to believe there are people on this forum who are seemingly involved in football and informed. To talk about mainland European football and the MLS, etc.

Now we have Ibe Interested according to some here (I haven't confirmed) so it seems a quality replacement if not even better replacement for Simon Moses.

From what I gather no official request has been made to Iorfa. Why is Aluko forgotten also Hope Akpan,

komekn:


Once again you are showing unrestrained prejudice and zero Humility.

Everything here is in writing.

Go back to my post and show me where I said I RECOMMENDED Fegor please

Please SHOW ME & US if you cannot then you know what you will be recognised as for all to see.

To date my position has not changed he doesn't merit a call up. Even if he scores a hatrick and dances Shoki around Messi. It does not detract from the circumventing of selection criteria.

It's like saying because you fraudulently by passed JAMB to enter university and then made a first class that you were justified and correct.

Finally, no one not even the informed and experienced TheGoodJoe has not been able to justify and or substantiate the selection. Based on facts figures that indicate or point to outstanding performance. The smoke screen justification of the scouting crew simply doesn't stand up to inspection.

tbaba1234:


I do not rate the MLS highly. I watch the games and i can't say, i am that impressed. Also, i doubt many Nigerians actively follow the MLS. It is much easier to scout within Europe for players even in lower leagues.

I think Joel Obi and Aluko deserve a look. Hope Akpan's stats this season are not impressive.

When i look at the National team, i believe that we have some of our strongest players already there bar a few.

It will take some time for those that are willing to switch alleigiance.

TheGoodJoe:


Based on which fact again. Tell us the player you know that is similar in style to Onazi that should be invited ahead of Chidiebere Nwakali. I am waiting.

tbaba1234:
Fred Onyedinma's season stats are not impressive. Only one assist all season, in 16 games..

komekn:


I have clearly recommended Sone Aluko, I talked about Iorfa, Onyedinma as players that can offer something to the SE.

I asked why there is zero talk concerning Fegor, I asked the question why is he forgotten. Not that I think he should be selected immediately.

Another post I made it clear I wanted to get the discussion going on the forgotten Fegor. That discussion started and there are indicattions he has not been up to scratch. Has he improved do we know Balogun wasn't great when he first started but has improved immensely.

When players are talked about we discuss attributes ability and suitability.

Thee are some i will say categorically true quality.

On the question if national allegiance, yesterday morning I was at U23 training and I spoke to Nigerian origin player who has played a few first team games. He told me he was undecided buy he also said had not been approached with real conviction from the NFF.

I really do feel the NFF need to have some kind of official in the Europe as a full time job to keep engagement with players watch thier games and see thier progress. And keep engagement with them continous invited to Nigeria for various events etc to get them linked in to Naija.

tbaba1234:
Goals for Nwakaeme, Obasi, Ramon Azeez

tbaba1234:
Goals for Nwakaeme, Obasi, Ramon Azeez

Humility017:

it is high time this defensive midfielders work on their passing skills not just to shot...
ndidi and onazi are also guilty of this...reason why I believe the call for Joel Obi....

komekn:


Obasi was a quality player in the Bundesliga I know for a fact Everton were once interested in him.

Where is he now?

komekn:


Obasi was a quality player in the Bundesliga I know for a fact Everton were once interested in him.

Where is he now?

Mujtahida:

Your last paragraph is wholeheartedly seconded.

komekn:


You have jumped into the soup that I have been cooking.

If you want chop tell me the ingredients that make the soup quality.

Statistically speaking with clear cut performance measurement. Is he a stand out player in the Norwegian league Stats. Is he among the top 5 in that league Which I will say, once you take out Mold and Rosenburg is on the level of English League One or below.

The position of DM is not robotic and any quality midfielder can play that position. Indeed Mikel Obi is not just a DM but a quality midfielder the same goes for Onazi. Ngolo Kante has redefined the term DM with greater dynamism. Taking over from where Makalele left off.

The issue is justification without hiding behind a smoke screen of the esteemed by you NFF scouting crew.

TheGoodJoe:


Why are you dribbling yourself like Ronaldinho on his best day? What concerns Ngolo Kante in the talk? Answer the question.

Tell us the defensive midfield player you feel we should have invited that shares similar characteristics with Onazi. I am waiting.

TheGoodJoe:
By the way, Oga Boss, Icon4s, I owe you an apology. After a long thought and careful consideration, I think I might be wrong in my assessment of Garba Lawal. He might have been atrocious when it comes to his creative attributes. Especially his passing and crossing.

However, there are other attributes that can make coaches stick to particular players despite their creative weaknesses. Attributes like defensive positioning, covering gaps, strong mentality, discipline (Garba Lawal always showed up early to camp), work rate and depth in understanding tactics.

Joebie:
My List VS Algeria