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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:08pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234:I read somewhere...even mikel agu is battling fitness issues |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:22pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Humility017: Once again you are showing unrestrained prejudice and zero Humility. Everything here is in writing. Go back to my post and show me where I said I RECOMMENDED Fegor please ![]() Please SHOW ME & US if you cannot then you know what you will be recognised as for all to see. To date my position has not changed he doesn't merit a call up. Even if he scores a hatrick and dances Shoki around Messi. It does not detract from the circumventing of selection criteria. It's like saying because you fraudulently by passed JAMB to enter university and then made a first class that you were justified and correct. Finally, no one not even the informed and experienced TheGoodJoe has not been able to justify and or substantiate the selection. Based on facts figures that indicate or point to outstanding performance. The smoke screen justification of the scouting crew simply doesn't stand up to inspection. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:30pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn:cc: komekn please read this your last paragraph...and tell what it depicts... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:43pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Humility017: I have not heard that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:48pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Yes I do recall but that's just one in the MLS. I am certain there must be hundreds of Nigerian origin players in the MLS but we seem to have hit a blank. I haven't had any reference to one. In England we have way too many Nigerian origin players on the fringes of first team football almost in every EPL club. My initial view is that let them break into first team football and or prove thier quality in a good team and league. But I notice we have players in far lower leagues who have played very few first team games and are already in the SE selection. In comparison to say players like Dominic Iorfa and Freddie Onyedinma who have played 111 and 140 games respectively. Games played at mainly championship level which for mid level EPL and above is the first scouting point for players. We discuss the ones the NFF flag up what abouy the ones they have not. Once again I can talk about England. I want to believe there are people on this forum who are seemingly involved in football and informed. To talk about mainland European football and the MLS, etc. Now we have Ibe Interested according to some here (I haven't confirmed) so it seems a quality replacement if not even better replacement for Simon Moses. From what I gather no official request has been made to Iorfa. Why is Aluko forgotten also Hope Akpan, ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:03pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Humility017: I have clearly recommended Sone Aluko, I talked about Iorfa, Onyedinma as players that can offer something to the SE. I asked why there is zero talk concerning Fegor, I asked the question why is he forgotten. Not that I think he should be selected immediately. Another post I made it clear I wanted to get the discussion going on the forgotten Fegor. That discussion started and there are indicattions he has not been up to scratch. Has he improved ![]() ![]() When players are talked about we discuss attributes ability and suitability. Thee are some i will say categorically true quality. On the question if national allegiance, yesterday morning I was at U23 training and I spoke to Nigerian origin player who has played a few first team games. He told me he was undecided buy he also said had not been approached with real conviction from the NFF. I really do feel the NFF need to have some kind of official in the Europe as a full time job to keep engagement with players watch thier games and see thier progress. And keep engagement with them continous invited to Nigeria for various events etc to get them linked in to Naija. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:04pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn: I do not rate the MLS highly. I watch the games and i can't say, i am that impressed. Also, i doubt many Nigerians actively follow the MLS. It is much easier to scout within Europe for players even in lower leagues. I think Joel Obi and Aluko deserve a look. Hope Akpan's stats this season are not impressive. When i look at the National team, i believe that we have some of our strongest players already there bar a few. It will take some time for those that are willing to switch alleigiance. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:06pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Fred Onyedinma's season stats are not impressive. Only one assist all season, in 16 games.. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:08pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn: Based on which fact again. Tell us the player you know that is similar in style to Onazi that should be invited ahead of Chidiebere Nwakali. I am waiting. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234: With regards to players switching it's not problematic. What I think is our engagement with players , if you deh find beta quality babe (wife material) na one telephone call you go take catch am. It's not everything I can say but I will say our NFF approach is not proactive and strategic enough might I even suggest professional. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:20pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You have jumped into the soup that I have been cooking. If you want chop tell me the ingredients that make the soup quality. Statistically speaking with clear cut performance measurement. Is he a stand out player in the Norwegian league ![]() ![]() The position of DM is not robotic and any quality midfielder can play that position. Indeed Mikel Obi is not just a DM but a quality midfielder the same goes for Onazi. Ngolo Kante has redefined the term DM with greater dynamism. Taking over from where Makalele left off. The issue is justification without hiding behind a smoke screen of the esteemed by you NFF scouting crew. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:28pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Omeruo and Kayode have been recalled... 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:30pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Goals for Nwakaeme, Obasi, Ramon Azeez 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:35pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Bit of a sad situation Fred has played for Millwall consistently for near 4 years, with good quality performances and as a stand out player. Neil Harris the Manager came in after Ian Holloway left and kept the same technical emphasis. But now he is fully in charge his blood and guts pressure football style has taken over, it's not the best for technical players. Look at thier passing rate and possession stats I haven't but I think it will tell a story. Its like always knew Demari Grey was top quality but Shakespeare couldn't see that. New manager comes in and he is now being looked at for a call up to the England squad. Onyedinma is technically gifted player without doubt the most technically adapt in the entire Millwall team. I see him playing a restricted wingers role no triangles or quality passing game. That's my view it's not an excuse. Here is a view from the times which are a more reputable news outfit. See link below from September. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/championship-round-up-fred-onyedinma-steps-in-to-run-leeds-ragged-8xt7dcbw6 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:37pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn:Your last paragraph is wholeheartedly seconded. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:38pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Obasi was a quality player in the Bundesliga I know for a fact Everton were once interested in him. Where is he now? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:39pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
tbaba1234:This Nwakaeme sabi score sha oo for Isreal. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:40pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Humility017: From what I have seen so far, Rohr is more interested in the defensive attributes of his midfielders than offensive or passing attributes. So you can call for Joel Obi but I doubt he fits into what Rohr wants. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:42pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn: Last I checked he is doing very well in Sweden, but people just don't like him and we are stuck with wingers like Simon Moses and Ahmed Musa, pathetic 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:43pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn: Hurt by too many Injuries.. He is in Sweden now.. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:43pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Mujtahida: We need those who dream to play for us. Not undecided people who wants us begging them with conviction. They can go and play for the Queen who they worship with all conviction. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
komekn: Why are you dribbling yourself like Ronaldinho on his best day? What concerns Ngolo Kante in the talk? Answer the question. Tell us the defensive midfield player you feel we should have invited that shares similar characteristics with Onazi. I am waiting. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 10:55pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Mauro Icardi has withdraw from Argentina squad, meanwhile Mikel agu is facing a fitness battle |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:57pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:59pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:you people should leave komekn alone abeg. You've been trying to pull this thing out of him for the last five or so pages and nothing. He has nothing, but his ego will never allow him admit that, so he prefers to dilly dally about and dodge the question. If you push him too much now, he will accuse you of being sentimental. After all, everyone on this thread is sentimental except him. He has been through the European system, they have no sentiments ![]() Leave the guy abeg, e don do 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:01pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:04pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Sylvester Igboun also scored 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:07pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
By the way, Oga Boss, Icon4s, I owe you an apology. After a long thought and careful consideration, I think I might be wrong in my assessment of Garba Lawal. He might have been atrocious when it comes to his creative attributes. Especially his passing and crossing. However, there are other attributes that can make coaches stick to particular players despite their creative weaknesses. Attributes like defensive positioning, covering gaps, strong mentality, discipline (Garba Lawal always showed up early to camp), work rate and depth in understanding tactics. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:15pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
You can imagine. The player is in Championship and is undecided if he will play for Nigeria. He should wait for the Queen. If this one is playing in Premier League, maybe he will want Rohr to wash his boots in camp. These English-born Nigerians can feel for nothing. Even Championship is undecided and wants begging with conviction. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:39pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Mr Lawal was never the technical wizard who will dazzle past players for fun and score bicycle kick goals. He never had that in his locker. He was a player who was deployed for tactical reasons. When you want to cancel out and totally extinguish the efficacy of an opposition wing man, Mr Lawal was the go to guy. He will stick to that opponent like a pimple and frustrate him out of the game. Bora started him against Spain in France 98 for this reason. He was also the main reason why we won Cameroun in Tunisia 2004. Tactically he was assigned to do a job on Geremi Njitap. He stuck to this task diligently and frustrated Geremi out of the game. As a result, Eto and Mboma who relied on balls from Geremi were starved and frustrated. We got a break and finished them off. We didn't out football the Camerounians on the day, rather we read their game plan and countered them to great effect. Wilfred Schafer was left scratching his head after the game how his tactics was demystified. If you wanted to do a man marking job on Messi, Lawal will be your go to guy. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:39pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
My List VS Algeria 1 Like
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:54pm On Nov 05, 2017 |
Joebie:Rohr would never start 4 benchers in one game and even if he was starting them, certainly not in this manner. Kayode that is only in the team because Ighalo got injured cannot jump over Kelechi to start for instance. Is Nwakaeme a winger? Can he play that role better than Onyekuru? Anyway, it's your preferred line-up 2 Likes |
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