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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 12:23pm On Nov 20, 2017
diggz:
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 12:28pm On Nov 20, 2017
airmark:


That was my abode before discovering the barca own. Only few guys have sense there. Imagine someone telling me that because one lukaku in rwandan league scored 11 goals in fewer games than lukaku of manchester, so the one in manchester is inferior to that of rwanda.

They are not even ashamed to bring such stupidity to the fore and defend it.
you are right...the stupidity is communicable and you see them liking and sharing such posts
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:31pm On Nov 20, 2017
Ibime:


Greatihex and anyone who liked his post are fools. Just because they did not know how to watch football in 2013 does not mean some of us didn't. KDB arrived here as YPOTY in Germany, rated higher than the likes of Draxler, Kroos, Gotze, Alaba etc. He arrived a top footballer and left a top footballer. He started 2 EPL games for Chelsea only of which he was MOTM in one, the other a good performance in a creditable draw away at Manure. What drove KDB out was politics and poor squad planning just like Lukaku and Sturridge. If KDB was bought for €35m he would have been treated fairly. The 3 political issues that drove KDB out of Chelsea were

1.) Mourinho was trying to get rid of a club legend Mata and needed a star name like Oscar to do it. Mourinho already set the political play in motion before season start by saying "Brazil no 10 is my no 10". It was pure politics. KDB did not have a big enough profile to be used for such political play.

2.) The club pursued Emenalo policy of buying too many £20m+ wingers. A manager is immediately under pressure to protect such assets and justify the club purchase of those players. There were 6 wingers/AMs competing for 3 positions. Whether you like it or not, your price tage determines the consideration you are given in such scenario. Now consider that Hazard is already locked in and Oscar is already locked in because of the political play with Mata. That leaves 4 players competing for 1 position (Mata, Willian, Schurrle and KDB), of which JM has to keep the fans onside by giving some minutes to club legend Mata even if he doesn't want to start him

3.) The final reason was partly political and partly tactical. The club had pursued a policy of understaffing the midfield due to Emenalos favouritism of Mikel and Ramires. In such a situation, JMs 3rd AM had to be Willian so that his workrate can help balance a midfield unfit for purpose. Willian became the chosen 3rd AM due to deficiencies on other parts of the team ie midfield which further squeezed out Debruyne.


Those who know how to watch football knew Debruyne was a crack player. Me and Nateevs have been raving about him before he returned to Chelsea and anticipating his return. I already had him as one of my favourite AM back then. Debruyne was a star in Germany before he returned and he was a star again the minute he left Chelsea. Greatihex is just typing nonsense to suit his argument. That summer he left Chelsea, Debruyne was one of the best players at the World Cup.

Below is one of only 2 EPL games Debruyne started at Chelsea. He was doing the exact same things he is doing now, the exact same things he did the season before that had him crowned best young player in Germany, a league that was crawling with the worlds best young talent. If you say Debruyne did not know how to play ball in 2013, then you are a newcomer to football.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcVLtUigc7Y
whenever this KDB's issue comes up, the only thing you bring up is politics. Something that has no proof.

Why did politics not chase hazard, schurrle, willian and co out.

KDB like many other Chelsea young players over the years had the potential (just like musonda now) but thought he should be starting when he has done nothing to prove that he deserves it. Oga, if you are good, you are good, no politics can stop a good player from playing.

Hazard came to Chelsea and immediately hit the ground running. No kind of politics would have stopped hazard from playing.

I will just ask you these questions and I will end this issue ever.

If KDB had hit the ground running like rashford had done at United, would Mourinho had benched him to test schurrle and willian?

If Mourinho played politics on KDB's issue, why did he start him for Chelsea's first matches of the season?

If KDB had not started well at Manchester city, would pellegrini have benched him for an alternative or not?

Was Mourinho playing politics with mhkitaryan when he started out to bench him last season?

Was conte playing politics with fabregas when he was benching him last season?

Oga Ibime please answer the following sincerely.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:36pm On Nov 20, 2017
Ibime:


What do you expect Lampard to say about his mentor? What would Gary Neville say about Sir Alex concerning Pogba in the same regard? Pundits are there to smooth things over.

In 2013, DeBruyne was already better than any U-23 player in Germany. Any other yarns na politics.
just like mhkitaryan was the best player in Germany before going to Manchester United.
You remember when you were arguing that he had the numbers and therefore was better than hazard?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EmmGee: 12:45pm On Nov 20, 2017
CapitalCee:


SALLAH I said, we party here with Masa, awara, tuwon masara and dankwa.
oboi so you sabi awara
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CapitalCee(m): 12:57pm On Nov 20, 2017
EmmGee:

oboi so you sabi awara

I was born and bred in northern Nigeria. I can Speak Hausa, IGBO and Yoruba fluently
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by VargasVee(m): 1:12pm On Nov 20, 2017
ROMELU LUKAKU

168 Official Appearances- 95 Goals



ALVARO MORATA

77 Official Appearances - 60 Goals


http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=58023

http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=56521

OK ohh

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:13pm On Nov 20, 2017
Greatihex:
whenever this KDB's issue comes up, the only thing you bring up is politics. Something that has no proof.

Why did politics not chase hazard, schurrle, willian and co out.

KDB like many other Chelsea young players over the years had the potential (just like musonda now) but thought he should be starting when he has done nothing to prove that he deserves it. Oga, if you are good, you are good, no politics can stop a good player from playing.

Hazard came to Chelsea and immediately hit the ground running. No kind of politics would have stopped hazard from playing.

I will just ask you these questions and I will end this issue ever.

If KDB had hit the ground running like rashford had done at United, would Mourinho had benched him to test schurrle and willian?

If Mourinho played politics on KDB's issue, why did he start him for Chelsea's first matches of the season?

If KDB had not started well at Manchester city, would pellegrini have benched him for an alternative or not?

Was Mourinho playing politics with mhkitaryan when he started out to bench him last season?

Was conte playing politics with fabregas when he was benching him last season?

Oga Ibime please answer the following sincerely.

You are talking nonsense. Rashford hit the ground running and JM brought in big names like Ibra and Lukaku to replace him. If JM had brought Solanke to replace him, will that go down well with the fans?

In football, there is something called status. Hazard came in with £32m of status, an investment to be protected. If Hazard had come through youth system, he will definitely chop bench while the club seek returns om their £25m players. It's the same reason why Torres £50m was being protected at the expense of Sturridge and Lukaku who came in for peanuts.

You typing nonsense about hit the ground running. If KDB was bought from Germany for £25m instead of being a loan returnee, no politics will be played with him. KDB first match he won MOTM providing a sumptuous assist, 2nd match he played well at Old Trafford. . . . and that was it. Did you expect him to score 2 hattricks to prove he has hit the ground running?

If you did not how to watch football in 2013, you should kindly shut up in 2017. KDB did exactly what those who know football know he will do from the minute he left Chelsea.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:13pm On Nov 20, 2017
After a successful loan spell in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen, De Bruyne was linked with a move to stay in Germany with either Borussia Dortmund or Bayer Leverkusen . Incoming manager José Mourinho , however, assured De Bruyne he was a part of Chelsea's plan for the future, and the player officially returned to Chelsea on 1 July 2013. [30]
De Bruyne injured a knee while scoring his first goal for Chelsea, in a pre- season friendly game against a Malaysia XI, [31]but was fit to make his competitive debut on the opening day of the 2013–14 Premier League season against Hull City , and made an assist for the first goal in a 2–0 win. [32]





If Mourinho wanted to play politics with KDB, the above wouldn't have happened.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:17pm On Nov 20, 2017
On 30 August 2015, Manchester City announced the arrival of De Bruyne on a six-year contract, for a reported club-record fee of £55 million(€75 million) making him the second most expensive transfer in British football history after Ángel Di María 's move to Manchester United in 2014. [52][53] He made his debut for the team in the Premier League on 12 September against Crystal Palace , replacing injured Sergio Agüero in the 25th minute. [54]On 19 September, he scored his first goal for the club against West Ham United in first half stoppage time in an eventual 2–1 loss. [55]He went on to score in a 4–1 League Cup win against Sunderland , on 22 September [56]and a 4–1 loss to Tottenham Hotspur in the Premier League on 26 September. [57]On 3 October, he scored in the team's 6–1 win against Newcastle United . [58]



If he had done this when he came to Chelsea, no level of politics would have sent him away.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:21pm On Nov 20, 2017
Greatihex:
If he had done this when he came to Chelsea, no level of politics would have sent him away.

How many league games did KdB play under Mourinho. He had 1 assist in 2 games and how many did he play in Man City to hit the ground running?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:23pm On Nov 20, 2017
Greatihex:
After a successful loan spell in the Bundesliga with Werder Bremen, De Bruyne was linked with a move to stay in Germany with either Borussia Dortmund or Bayer Leverkusen . Incoming manager José Mourinho , however, assured De Bruyne he was a part of Chelsea's plan for the future, and the player officially returned to Chelsea on 1 July 2013. [30]
De Bruyne injured a knee while scoring his first goal for Chelsea, in a pre- season friendly game against a Malaysia XI, [31]but was fit to make his competitive debut on the opening day of the 2013–14 Premier League season against Hull City , and made an assist for the first goal in a 2–0 win. [32]





If Mourinho wanted to play politics with KDB, the above wouldn't have happened.

So you are showing KDB actually did well in the 2 opportunities he was given? Yes KDB was presented with the MOTM in his first game. In his 2nd game, he performed brilliantly at Old Trafford. How does this relate to your assertion that KDB flopped at Chelsea?

At the start of that season, Mata was injured and Willian wasn't signed till deadline day. JM was also starting Schurrle as a striker. In the space created by these absences, KDB grabbed his opportunity with BOTH HANDS, but the politics of the situation is that Willian was bought for £32m (not by JM) on deadline day, and KDB was returned to the place always designed for him which was to be squad fodder. Intelligent people will recall minutae detail of past events and will tell the full story, not some average intelligence bloke that will come telling us stories in 2017 of events that are beyond his recollection.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neymar1095(m): 1:30pm On Nov 20, 2017
VargasVee:
ROMELU LUKAKU
168 Official Appearances- 95 Goals


ALVARO MORATA
77 Official Appearances - 60 Goals

http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=58023
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=56521
OK ohh
Bros your lie Na First Class. Morata had 93appearance for only juventus alone scoring 27 goalz....... Fraud. Delete!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:37pm On Nov 20, 2017
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:39pm On Nov 20, 2017
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:53pm On Nov 20, 2017
dopeJemi:


Oshey! Archeologist, the collector of artifacts, leader of the Fulani diggers association, what did you achieve with Hazard 3 seasons ago?

didinrin cheesy cheesy

Your name should be changed to dopemu. 3 seasons ago should be 2014/2015, right? Go and ask your coach what hazard achieved and his view about hazard that season. Come back and tell me why your brain should not be replaced with 5kb memory card.

Greatihex:
just like mhkitaryan was the best player in Germany before going to Manchester United.
You remember when you were arguing that he had the numbers and therefore was better than hazard?

This must be untrue.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by VargasVee(m): 2:17pm On Nov 20, 2017
Neymar1095:

Bros your lie Na First Class.
Morata had 93appearance for only juventus alone scoring 27 goalz....... Fraud.
Delete!!


Calm your tits down cheesy


League matches they played the full 90mins.

93 Appearances, proof?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:20pm On Nov 20, 2017
airmark:


Your name should be changed to dopemu. 3 seasons ago should be 2014/2015, right? Go and ask your coach what hazard achieved and his view about hazard that season. Come back and tell me why your brain should not be replaced with 5kb memory card.



This must be untrue.

Hmmmm.. cheesy cheesy lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 2:25pm On Nov 20, 2017
lordfalcao:
then his goals were not relevant enuf to win point's that can guarantee tittles
Just listen to yourself. Can we take away Asensio Ronaldo Isco Caseimero Ramos goals and see if they will win spoon?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:31pm On Nov 20, 2017
Ibime:


So you are showing KDB actually did well in the 2 opportunities he was given? Yes KDB was presented with the MOTM in his first game. In his 2nd game, he performed brilliantly at Old Trafford. How does this relate to your assertion that KDB flopped at Chelsea?

At the start of that season, Mata was injured and Willian wasn't signed till deadline day. JM was also starting Schurrle as a striker. In the space created by these absences, KDB grabbed his opportunity with BOTH HANDS, but the politics of the situation is that Willian was bought for £32m (not by JM) on deadline day, and KDB was returned to the place always designed for him which was to be squad fodder. Intelligent people will recall minutae detail of past events and will tell the full story, not some average intelligence bloke that will come telling us stories in 2017 of events that are beyond his recollection.
How do you know JM was'nt the 1 that pushed for him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 2:35pm On Nov 20, 2017
airmark:


Your name should be changed to dopemu. 3 seasons ago should be 2014/2015, right? Go and ask your coach what hazard achieved and his view about hazard that season. Come back and tell me why your brain should not be replaced with 5kb memory card.



This must be untrue.

Oponu jati jati, probably I should have said 2015/2016 season, what did you achieve with the creator of one corner? have you disputed the fact that Depay has higher numbers with less game time than Mr one corner? you should apologize for trying to ridicule that post because you have been jumping from one talk to another like a fat kid playing on two trampolines

ori e ko pe cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:50pm On Nov 20, 2017
eph12:

Just listen to yourself. Can we take away Asensio Ronaldo Isco Caseimero Ramos goals and see if they will win spoon?
morata goals won Madrid 13points that also helped them in winning the league. What it means is that he scored crucial goals that have them points just like the way Costa scored crucial goals that gave us points for the league last season despite hazard and co scoring. Your lukaku didn't do this, his goals didn't not give Everton any crucial point
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:53pm On Nov 20, 2017
dopeJemi:


Oponu jati jati, probably I should have said 2015/2016 season, what did you achieve with the creator of one corner? have you disputed the fact that Depay has higher numbers with less game time than Mr one corner? you should apologize for trying to ridicule that post because you have been jumping from one talk to another like a fat kid playing on two trampolines

ori e ko pe cheesy cheesy

Probably, you should have your brain replaced. I dey mistake you for erhue before. You have a brain of esiraghwa for spitting rubbish since.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:54pm On Nov 20, 2017
airmark:


I dey mistake you for erhue before. You have a brain of esiraghwa for spitting rubbish since.


Chaiiiii.... dopejemi o!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:55pm On Nov 20, 2017
Wonder why people are acting up because of KDB's sale.

Chelsea sold him for maximum value. Chelsea had so many options at the time. KDB was'nt defensive the way he is now. KDB's career could have ended under Mou, he made a call to save his career. Manager's only care about how a player fits their plan.

Who should have made way for KDB who plays CM, AM, RM; Lampard, Oscar, Willian, Mata, Ramires?

Andre S was Hazard's back-up and a squad player who could play as a forward.

Lampard and Ramires experience needed, i vote Ramires.

Politics or not, removing Mata was a statement in changing the way Chelsea play, call it pride.

Willian, 25, was better than KDB. Oscar just had a great debut season and even made Mata's lose less felt.

KDB ran like Lukaku out of Chelsea. KDB should have replaced Lampard and Chelsea wouldn't have had to buy Fabregas the way Chelsea got rid of Salah only to get Pedro. Marketability, Profile, Politics it's already done.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:57pm On Nov 20, 2017
Just a season without lukaku Everton is fighting relegation battle burr.,..burrr.....we are to believe the goals he scored for Everton failed to gather crucial points cheesy cheesy

Elrony of life cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:02pm On Nov 20, 2017
lordfalcao:
morata goals won Madrid 13points that also helped them in winning the league. What it means is that he scored crucial goals that have them points just like the way Costa scored crucial goals that gave us points for the league last season despite hazard and co scoring. Your lukaku didn't do this, his goals didn't not give Everton any crucial point

Even heard that Morata's goals have won 8 points the most in EPL.

EPL signing of the season for now is between Morata, 70m and Salah, 50m in euros.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dopeJemi: 3:06pm On Nov 20, 2017
airmark:


Probably, you should have your brain replaced. I dey mistake you for erhue before. You have a brain of esiraghwa for spitting rubbish since.

cheesy cheesy

Ewure Oshi! at least I have brain, your own head just have Air, I'm sure you experience Polar easterlies in that head of yours

Airhead, dispute facts or apologize to me

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:12pm On Nov 20, 2017
Ibime:


You are talking nonsense. Rashford hit the ground running and JM brought in big names like Ibra and Lukaku to replace him. If JM had brought Solanke to replace him, will that go down well with the fans?

In football, there is something called status. Hazard came in with £32m of status, an investment to be protected. If Hazard had come through youth system, he will definitely chop bench while the club seek returns om their £25m players. It's the same reason why Torres £50m was being protected at the expense of Sturridge and Lukaku who came in for peanuts.

You typing nonsense about hit the ground running. If KDB was bought from Germany for £25m instead of being a loan returnee, no politics will be played with him. KDB first match he won MOTM providing a sumptuous assist, 2nd match he played well at Old Trafford. . . . and that was it. Did you expect him to score 2 hattricks to prove he has hit the ground running?

If you did not how to watch football in 2013, you should kindly shut up in 2017. KDB did exactly what those who know football know he will do from the minute he left Chelsea.
Mourinho did not remember politics when he gave KDB first two starts of the season ahead of a more expensive schurrle and an established mata?
Mourinho has forgotten how to play politics in the case of £50+ million martial and rashford? Or is there no investment there to protect?

Or, is Chelsea no longer playing politics in the case of Christensen?
Is musonda's own politics too?

Oga, the bottom line is that, a good market sells itself. "ahia oma n'ere onwe ya"

You and I know that Mourinho is one of the last managers that will put anything ahead of performance, not even sentiments.

It will be understandable if you tell us that you love KDB for his style of play and therefore, have a soft soft spot for him. That you are not happy that he could not wait to make it at Chelsea. But, don't blame anyone for him not making. It all has to do with the player himself and nothing else.
He was not patient and was also rude on top of it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 3:18pm On Nov 20, 2017
diggz:
Just a season without lukaku Everton is fighting relegation battle burr.,..burrr.....we are to believe the goals he scored for Everton failed to gather crucial points cheesy cheesy

Elrony of life cheesy cheesy

Egbon Diggz, ogini? angry

You are waiting for me to tell you Lordfowlcow is a petty jihadist? ! !! cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:20pm On Nov 20, 2017
How do players even think before choosing a transfer move? See Mkhytary left Dortmund an attacking built team (fast ball) and moved to play under Mou.

I wonder what talented winger in his right mind would move to play under Mou.

Anthony Martial is just unlucky not to have the right amount ego to face Mou, 2 years that guy hasn't developed even Lemar and Coman might now bench him in france.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 3:20pm On Nov 20, 2017
elrony:


Egbon Diggz, ogini? angry

Are you not elrony(irony) of life again?

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