onuhabel1:
maybe the reason why you are not yet more than how you are now, is because you don't tithe
y not try it (The bible said, Prove me if I will not open the Windows of heaven....) and see the difference

1. That doesn't answer my question which is, are non tithers like me NOT enjoying open heaven because I don't tithe?

2. How do you know how I am now and how far I should have gone? Do you know how committed I am to giving and blessing or touching people's lives?

MrBottle:
Where is that---- your pastor's bank account. ? And you said that God receives the tithes, how.? This ain't no burnt offerings that has evidence of being received by God---you know. God ain't in that warehouse or storehouse or whatever.-----so who receives it----

Heb 7:5 says
And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;


Verse 8 says

Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them,
of whom it is witnessed that he lives.

Goshen360:


1. That doesn't answer my question which is, are non tithers like me NOT enjoying open heaven because I don't tithe?

2. How do you know how I am now and how far I should have gone? Do you know how committed I am to giving and blessing or touching people's lives?

Eat this


# KPGWC2017
2017 KINGDOM POWER AND GLORY WORLD CONFERENCE (DAY 4 – WORSHIP AND WONDERS NIGHT) – 24TH NOVEMBER 2017
ANCHOR SCRIPTURE(S): MALACHI 3:7-12
MESSAGE TOPIC: THE TITHE
By: Dr. Paul Enenche
SERVICE OBJECTIVES:
1. Understanding the Tithe
2. Understanding the value of the Tithe
3. Understanding the place or otherwise of the Tithe in the New Testament
The Tithe is a controversial and grossly misunderstood subject
Beware of being pastored by social media
Tithing is such a controversial issue because of the grip that money has on people (Matt. 6:24; Luke 16:13)
True spirituality is confirmed in money matters
WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
5. Believers are the seed of Abraham and are commanded to walk in the steps of Abraham (Gal. 3:16, 7; Rom. 4:12)
As a child of God, you are a seed of Abraham and are expected to follow his steps
THE STEPS OF ABRAHAM:
5a. Unconditional obedience to God
5b. Believing God without question
5c. Seeing the future before it arrives (Gen. 13:14-15)
5d. Servicing the needs of the needy (Gen. 14:14)
5e. Holding nothing back from God (Gen. 22:2)
5f. Giving God a tenth of your income
5g. Looking up to nobody but God (Gen. 14:22-23)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament (Heb. 7:1-
The law od first mention – the greatest mention you can ever get in scripture is from the first time it is mentioned in Scripture
8. In the New Testament, believers exist far beyond the Tithe (Prov. 23:26; Rom. 12:1; 2Cor. 8:1-5; Phil. 4:15-19)
Anyone that struggles with the payment of tithes either does not know God or has not surrendered themselves totally to God
WHY DO WE TITHE?
1. God owns both the earth and everything in it (Ps. 24:1; Ps. 50:12; Hag. 2:
2. God owns man’s life, man’s strength and everything responsible for man’s income (Isa. 43:21; Acts 17:28)
3. God receives our honour and appreciation through our giving (Prov. 3:9-10)
WHAT DOES TITHING CONFIRM?
1. It confirms God’s ownership of all things
2. It confirms man’s stewardship of God’s resources
3. It confirms our conquest of mammon (Matt. 6:24)
4. It confirms our God-first existence (Matt. 6:33)
5. It confirms the authenticity of our worship (Rom. 12:1-2)
FACTS ABOUT THE TITHE:
1. The Tithe belongs to God
2. The Tithe is paid at the place of one’s spiritual covering
3. The Tithe is meant to be the Tithe of all
4. The Tithe is to be paid in whole
5. Everybody pays Tithe including the priest (Heb. 7:9)
THE BENEFITS OF THE TITHE:
1. Access to supernatural supplies (Mal. 3:10-12)
2. Existence above earthly economy (Mal. 3:10-12; Phil. 4:19)
3. Open heavens for the rain of visions, revelations and Divine ideas
4. Security and insurance of man’s blessings
5. The resistance of the activities of the devourer
6. The conversion of promises to blessings (Heb. 7:6)
7. The blessing of the next generation (Heb. 7:9)

onuhabel1:
Heb 7:5 says
And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;


Verse 8 says

Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them,
of whom it is witnessed that he lives.

Seems you have forgotten that we don't have the tribe of Levi in Nigeria--- no descendants of Levi either. How did your pastoe relates to the tribe of Levi.

onuhabel1:
am quoting the bible for you, Malachi 3

The same scam principle for both bible thumpers and non-thumpers. "Bring and I will replenish" line.

MrBottle:
Seems you have forgotten that we don't have the tribe of Levi in Nigeria--- no descendants of Levi either. How did your pastoe relates to the tribe of Levi.

ministry is no longer by tribe but by divine calling

Is Paul the apostle a levite? but he was called of God

onuhabel1:
ministry is no longer by tribe but by divine calling

Is Paul the apostle a levite? but he was called of God

Hahahaha. Oh lawd. Since when? Who changed it? Are you aware that the descendants and tribe of Levi are still in existence in Israel?

Was Paul a priest or an apostle? Did Paul persuade the early Christians to pay tithe as your pastors are doing now?

MrBottle:
Hahahaha. Oh lawd. Since when? Who changed it? Are you aware that the descendants and tribe of Levi are still in existence in Israel?

Was Paul a priest or an apostle? Did Paul persuade the early Christians to pay tithe as your pastors are doing now?

So u mean, we have to go to Israel to pay tithe? ooh nooo
God has called some servants and they are in the vineyards for the kingdom, so psy tithe to your pastor...
If you really love God, what is one out of ten, to give to him?

onuhabel1:
So u mean, we have to go to Israel to pay tithe? ooh nooo
God has called some servants and they are in the vineyards for the kingdom, so psy tithe to your pastor...
If you really love God, what is one out of ten, to give to him?

I want to worship God in truth not in make believe as you are suggesting. And also being that Jesus has died and resurrected I don't need the practice of Judaism any more including the giving of 1/10 of my hard-earned money, wearing of only one cloth design by separating the cotton from the silk and offering burnt offerings and bar mitzvahing my way to adulthood.----instead I have to give to the needy, visit the sick and the rest. And since my pastor has a private jet he ain't a needy by my definition----now is he?

MrBottle:
I want to worship God in truth not in make believe as you are suggesting. And also being that Jesus has died and resurrected I don't need the practice of Judaism any more including the giving of 1/10 of my hard-earned money, wearing of only one cloth design by separating the cotton from the silk and offering burnt offerings and bar mitzvahing my way to adulthood.----instead I have to give to the needy, visit the sick and the rest. And since my pastor has a private jet he ain't a needy by my definition----now is he?

but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism

onuhabel1:
but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism

He said that? DpWhere? Was it explicitly clear on that? Did he also say that it is compulsory like the yapping of the yesteryears and then of recent from our flamboyant pastors.?

onuhabel1:
but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism

The place Jesus said you should tithe, I guess you referring to popular Matthew 23v23. Okay, let's do this, put your name or your pastor name or Christians who Christ died for in that verse context and see how it read. Lemme help you,

New International Version
"Woe to you, [s]teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites![/s] PAUL ENENCHI, ONUHABEL1, CHRISTIANS You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

FACT and TRUTH CHECK this verse:

a. Christ would hv declared Woe on you, your pastor and Christians he died for which he had not even died for at this time

b. You, your pastor and Christians would have been TEACHERS, OF THE LAW AND HYPOCRITES.

c. It would have still being tenth of your SPICES which still agricultural products under the law

d. You, your pastor and Christians would have NEGLECTED THE MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THE LAW and btw, what does God required? I guess the same way you tithers will see someone dying in the hospital and still close your eyes but rather take a tenth to religious gathering. The same way, you hypocrites see someone who hasn't paid school fees and pass by, the same way y'all see someone hungry and naked and pass by thinking you've done God great service once your tenth is paid.

2. Where in Hebrews did he say we should tithe?

onuhabel1:


they are universal in the sense that what God said to Abraham in the old testament is applicable to everybody even in our world today
U see that, God told Abraham to be perfect in the old testament, that It is in the old testament does not mean its not applicable to us
So, if God has said to Abraham by revelation (Because nobody told him to tithe) to tithe, it is also applicable to everybody
Selah!

These highlighted statements seem a bit preposterous....
For starters,are U referring to the law of moses when U meant "old testament "?

Secondly,what scriptures can u quote to back ur assertion that "Abraham received revelations from God to tithe"?

Lastly,since tithe was supposedly gotten through Revelation from God,can we also assume that burnt offerings,sleeping with his maid,lying was also a revelation from God to Abraham?

onuhabel1:
but master Jesus did not condemn tithe he rather said we should tithe and still do other righteous things
Hebrews also said we should tithe
so its not a matter of judaism

Just the same way he never condemned burnt offerings or sin offerings or passover offerings....

Jesus never condemned Judaism simply because before his death he was under the "law of moses" hence he partook in all of the requirements of the law of moses!

Please study and understand Hebrews 8 and 9
esp Hebrews 9:15-28
Galatians 4:1-7
Ephesians 2:11-18
Romans 10:4

Hebrews also said we should tithe

I guess U are referring to Hebrews 7
Please show me where it states that Believers of the new covenant should "tithe 10% of their income to a pastor or minister"....

Also show in that same Hebrews 7 where Christ mandated pastors to receive tithe on his behalf...

finally please use Hebrews 7 to show where Christ made tithing a super revelation to believers of the new covenant!

I await ur "honest" replies!

onuhabel1:
Last night, God's servant, Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis exposed the truth of tithing pointing out how Jesus endorsed in
Matt 23:23 says

New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

King James Bible
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The passage shows that Jesus endorsed tithing but rebuked tithing in iniquity, so we should tithe!
*You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.* (NLT)
Excerpts from the teaching:

WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
Nobody told Abraham to tithe, it was revealed to him by God
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament [Heb. 7:1-8]


Do not be pastored by Social media!

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Ori e wanbe pastor. Some hypothetical believers who do not want to part With their money criticise what pastors do with money.....


They want pastors poor but want their unction. ...


The other day one of such was criticising our pastor, immediately she was made one of the treasurer ms and saw what the church spends on, she started campaigning support for the pastor.

Tithes were paid yearly not monthly. At the Sabbath year no tithe was paid.

Tithe was to support the levites and priesthood because they had to work in the temple offering sacrifices.

Christians do not pay tithe but give voluntary offerings.

SUNDAY SERMON: THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHING


I came across this piece on a Whatsapp page and it so represented my views on tithing that I could have written it myself. Please enjoy the read!

The Trial of Pastor Jones (Author unknown)

Judge: Mr. Jones you have been charged with multiple counts of extortion. Your crime spree covers 20 years and thousands of victims. You have defrauded people out of their money with fear and manipulation, telling them they had to tithe 10% of their income as per the LAW to your Regd. organization (called Church) and that God would bless them if they did. You also told them that if they didn't tithe God would curse them.

How do you plead?

Mr. Jones: I plead not guilty your Honor, I have done nothing wrong. I have only preached what the Bible says. In the Bible Abraham tithed to Melchizedek and God blessed him for his faithful giving. The Bible even says he was rich in silver and gold.

Judge: Is it not true, Mr. Jones, that in Genesis Chapter 13 verse 2 the Bible says Abraham was rich with livestock, silver and gold?

Mr. Jones: Yes, you are exactly right, that's what I just told you.

Judge: Ok, we read about Abraham being a rich man in chapter 13 but it is not until Genesis chapter 14 that we read about Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek. So Abraham was already a rich man before he tithed to Melchizedek, wasn't he?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose you are right.

Judge: So his riches were not the result of his tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Mr. Jones, you also say God blessed him for his faithful giving. How many times is it recorded that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well, just once.

Judge: So the Bible never said that he gave week after week?

Mr. Jones: No it does not.

Judge: Where did Abraham get the things that he gave to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: Well the Bible says it was from the plunders of war?

Judge: So you are telling me that he gave from the plunders of war?

Mr. Jones: Yes that's what the Bible says.

Judge: So he basically took things that were not really his in the first place and gave them as the tithe?

Mr. Jones: That is what the scripture seems to indicate.

Judge: Is it recorded that he ever took anything from his own possessions and tithed them to Melchizedek or anyone else?

Mr. Jones: I guess not

Judge: You guess not, you are a teacher and you are only guessing, is it or is it not written that he ever gave any of his own possessions as a tithe to anyone?

Mr. Jones: No it is not written anywhere that I have seen.

Judge: Is it recorded as to what exactly Abraham did give Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: I believe it says plunder?

Judge: So plunder could be any number of things?

Mr. Jones: Yes, I suppose

Judge: It could have been food, cattle, sheep, the people's possessions or any number of things. It does not say it was all money correct?

Mr. Jones: Yes you are correct, it does not say just money

Judge: As a matter of fact money is never mentioned in that account at all is that correct Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor, money is never mentioned just goods and food and people.

Judge: So there is no way you can say with any certainty that Abraham in fact gave Melchizedek any money at all?

Mr. Jones: That is right.

Judge: I only have one last question for you
Mr. Jones, did God command Abraham to give this plunder tithe to Melchizedek?

Mr. Jones: No, it appears that he did this voluntarily.

Judge: So are you trying to tell me that because of this voluntary, one time gift by Abraham, that may not have even consisted of money, all Christians everywhere are obligated to bring 10% of their weekly paycheck to a local Regd.Organization-church?
Considering all the evidence I would say you are beyond any shadow of a doubt guilty of deliberately trying to make the scriptures says things they have not said for financial gain.

Mr. Jones: Ok your Honor, I can see how foolish I was to try and use the story of Melchizedeck to try and get the people to tithe money. But there are many other verses that will support my belief on tithing. Jacob said he would give God 10% of everything. I think we should follow his example.

Judge: Let's see what Jacob said. Please read the verse you are talking about for me Mr. Jones.

Mr. Jones: In Genesis chapter 28 starting at verse 20 it says. Jacob vowed a vow, saying, "If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and clothing to put on, so that I come again to my father's house in peace, and Yahweh will be my God, then this stone, which I have set up for a pillar, will be God's house. Of all that you will give me I will surely give the tenth to you."

Judge: You said we should follow Jacobs example, is that right Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: Yes that is right, he vowed to give a tenth and we should too.

Judge: Let me point out one thing for you Mr. Jones, Jacob said he would Give God a tenth, ONLY if He blessed him first. So as you said previously, we should follow Jacob's example and tell God that we will only give him a tenth if he blesses us first. Is that right?

Mr. Jones: That is not what I meant.

Judge: What did you mean then?

Mr. Jones: That we should give God a tenth also.

Judge: There you go again, trying to make the scripture say what you want it to say for your benefit. I would also like you to tell me the scriptures that say that Jacob kept his vow with God. I would also like to know where he gave the tenth to because there was no temple or levites to give it to at that time.

Mr. Jones: I can not think of any scriptures that say where or if he ever tithed after his vow.

Judge: It seems fairly obvious to me that Jacob made a voluntary and conditional vow to God. This in no way can be used as a reason to demand others to bring their income to you or any other place.

Mr. Jones: I do have a few more scriptures that I believe will show that we are supposed to tithe.

Judge: You have not said anything yet to convince me one little bit that people are obligated to tithe money to the local organizational institutions -churches and that you were justified in what you were doing. You have taken scripture and misapplied it to your beliefs and for your gain. But in order to be fair to you I will allow you to present more evidence.

Mr. Jones: In the book of Malachi chapter 3 starting at verse 8 it says, will a man rob God? yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, In what have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the store-house, that there may be food in my house, and prove me now with this, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. So you see your Honor, we are commanded to bring the tithes into the storehouse or God will curse us.

Judge: Answer me this Mr Jones, Who was God Speaking to here?

Mr Jones: To the People of Israel

Judge: Can you please read Malachi 2: 1 Please Mr Jones

Mr Jones: Now This command is for you O PRIEST !!

Judge: Did God stop talking to the Priest in Chap. 3, Mr Jones?

Mr Jones: No your Honor!

Judge: Answer me this Mr. Jones, were you aware that God never required anyone to tithe money?

Mr. Jones: No I didn't know that.

Judge: The tithe spoken of here was always edible products never money.

Mr. Jones: Well your Honor that is because they didn't have money at the time so God had them tithe food instead.

Judge: Not true, money is first mentioned in Genesis and Malachi was written hundreds of years later. God had them bring food in so that the levites, the fatherless and widows may eat and be satisfied. The tithe was used mainly to take care of people. Also notice it says in the verse you quoted, that there may be food in my house. The food was the tithe. How do you completely overlook the word food in those verses?

Mr. Jones: I don't know

Judge: I also want you to know that these verses speak to nation under the Old Testament law. As you may or may not know Jesus fulfilled the law, it is no longer binding. Once again you have tried to completely take a scripture out of context and apply it to others for your benefit. Can you give me a single scripture where God changed the tithe from food to money?

Mr. Jones: I do not know of any.

Judge: So if God never changed it from food to money who did?

Mr. Jones: Man must have.

Judge: So far all you have done Mr. Jones, is take Old Testament scriptures out of context and try to apply it to believers under the New Covenant. Is this all the proof you have?

Mr. Jones: I do have a New Testament scripture that will show that Jesus told us to tithe.

Judge: Ok let me hear it.

Mr. Jones: Jesus said in Matthew 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy, and faith. But you ought to have done these, and not to have left the other undone. See Jesus said we should be tithing.

Judge: Let me ask you a question, who was Jesus talking to?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says the Scribes and Pharisees.

Judge: Are you a scribe or Pharisee?

Mr. Jones: Of course not.

Judge: Jesus also said in that passage, you have left undone the weightier matters of the law. Are we under the law Mr. Jones?

Mr. Jones: No.

Judge: Why not?

Mr. Jones: Because Jesus fulfilled it.

Judge: When did Jesus fulfill the law?

Mr. Jones: When He was crucified.

Judge: So the law was still in effect until Jesus death?

Mr. Jones: That is correct.

Judge: I think you know where I am going with this don't you?

Mr. Jones: Yes your Honor. Since Jesus had not yet been crucified and the law was still binding the Pharisees were required to tithe because it was part of the law. Once the law ended, tithing ended also.

Judge: I want you to take a look at that verse again. Also tell me, what were they tithing?

Mr. Jones: The scripture says it was mint, dill and cumin.

Judge: Is money mentioned?

Mr. Jones: No it was not.

Judge: Once again it was edible products that they were tithing, not money. Do you have anything else you would like to say?

Mr. Jones: If people only tithed edible products like the scripture says, then how would the church survive? We have our mortgage payment, utility bills, staff salary and a host of other things that we have to pay each week. We depend on the money from the people.

Judge: By "church" you mean your organization isn't it Mr Jones ?
-The need does not justify the means. In other words, just because you have all these debts does not give you the right to twist and manipulate scripture and cause people to give under fear of being cursed by God to meet your needs. Does It Mr Jones?
In closing, let me recap a few things for you Mr. Jones.
-The tithe was never money;
-The tithe was an Old Testament law, which is no longer binding. When it was binding the tithe was used to take care of people, not buildings.
- We are under a new covenant now.
Paul instructs the Corinthian believers how they are to give. He says in second Corinthians chapter 9 verse 7, Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver. So each believer is supposed to give as he or she has determined in his or her heart.
If they determine to Give 10% well and good, If they keep aside some every week to meet this more better.If you are trying to make people give under the threat of being cursed or any other reason even blessing, you are wrong. Someone can not give cheerfully if they are being forced to give. If 'your church can not survive on freewill offerings maybe God is not part of your church at all.
Mr Jones, do you intentionally put your people under a Curse or a Bondage?

Mr Jones: Of Course not !!

Judge: Can you Read in context Gal 3:10-11: For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ....
AND
Gal 5:1-4 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage....

Mr. Jones: I never realized all these things, I have always been taught that we had to tithe money to the local church and that is what I have always taught. I can see now that I was completely wrong. I did not study the scripture for myself, I only took mans word for it.
Yes ' am guilty. I will not teach this error anymore.
Sentencing....... All Arise .....

onuhabel1:
they are universal in the sense that what God said to Abraham in the old testament is applicable to everybody even in our world today
U see that, God told Abraham to be perfect in the old testament, that It is in the old testament does not mean its not applicable to us
So, if God has said to Abraham by revelation (Because nobody told him to tithe) to tithe, it is also applicable to everybody
Selah!

Why don't you go and sacrifice your son or travel from Ur to Haran since those too are part of what God told Abraham to do given your statement that what God told Abraham is applicable to everybody in our world today.

And didn't God tell Abraham to circumscise his entire household as a mark of the covenant between Abraham and God? Whence then did Paul derive the authority to say that for IN CHRIST neither circumcision nor uncircumscision has any value, the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Galatians 5:6
If Paul was alive to settle this tithe issue I can confidently say this is what he would say 'for In CHRIST tithing or not tithing does not count what counts is faith expressing itself through love.'

Most pastors endorsing tithe and foisting it on the people through words such as 'tithe is a Kingdom principle' are being deliberately deceitful. There are no Kingdom principles- not tithe, not seed faith etc. The only principle is Christ, in Christ.
Open your eyes people.

Goshen360:


Smh!

This is now beyond misunderstanding the scriptures. It's now a case of twisting the scriptures to swindle people.

Mujtahida:

Why don't you go and sacrifice your son or travel from Ur to Haran since those too are part of what God told Abraham given your statement that what God told Abraham is applicable to everybody in our world today.

And didn't God tell Abraham to circumscise his entire household as a mark of the covenant between Abraham and God? Whence then did Paul derive the authority to say that for IN CHRIST neither circumcision nor uncircumscision has any value, the only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. Galatians 5:6
If Paul was alive to settle this tithe issue this is what he would for In CHRIST tithing or not tithing does not count what counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Most pastors endorsing tithe and foisting it on the people through words such 'tithe is a Kingdom principle' are being deliberately deceitful. There are no Kingdom principles- not tithe, not seed faith etc. The only principle is Christ, in Christ.
Open your eyes people.

Very succinctly expressed. Without tithes many pastors will resign.

onuhabel1:
did God came down from heaven to collect Abraham's tithe?
After that event, the Levites began to be in charge
And today, priesthood is not by inheritance but calling
So, those called of God as ministers collets the tithe while God receives it

You (all Christians not ministers) are a chosen generation, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, a people belonging to God to show forth the praises of him who called you(all Christians not just ministers) called out of darkness into his marvellous light. 1peter 2:9

Revelations 5:10 You have made them to be a Kingdom and PRIESTS(all Christians not just ministers;indeed all Christians are ministers) to serve our God and they will reign on the earth.

You know so much about tithe but next to nothing about Jesus Christ.

Why not just take it to the street and help a poor man or a poor beggar with it

Gods house is indistructibly residing in you and residing in the heart if the poor ones around you.

The Church is rich and sprawling!!!

Watch and pray.

Why not just take it to the street and help a poor man or a poor beggar with it

Gods house is indistructibly residing in you and residing in the heart if the poor ones around you.

The Church is rich and sprawling!!!

Watch and pray.

What Oyedepo said about Tithing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNAhxnmH-bk

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onuhabel1:
Yea, if what Jesus said to one person, he says to all

Don't u know[b] Jesus was with God from the beginning and he's God?
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If he told Abraham, it applies to us as well, Paul the apostle also spoke abt tithing, u knw?

At the enboldened, if he is God why was he asking father to forgive them when he was nailed to the cross? Which father was he talking about? Was he talking to himself?

The only thing OYEDEPO knows is TITHE n to fly upndan in JET

onuhabel1:
yea, u will continue "smh" in awe of how people are blessed by tithing

Aren't you still as hungry today as the day you started paying salary...sorry tithe to your pastor?

Your mates are out there working hard and getting income for themselves while you are paying money to pastor and waiting for God to double it for you. Is God a money doubler? You have been thoroughly brainwashed.

MrBottle:
Who is the said father cos God ain't got no account number!
I think I will start doing what he is doing ..---paying tithe to my account.

bros his tithe goes to E.A Adeboye and Adeboye pays tithe to Anglican church becus that was his mother church that was where he sprout from.

These Pastors are just messing up the more..Abraham paid tithe from what he plundered ....and in a guise to defend their investments they just come up with more schemes...

onuhabel1:
for what na?


Its not a forceful something u knw
Who have u seen arrested for paying?

But as Bishop David Oyedepo is paying and living large, nobody should criticisingly jealous him because according to him, his secret of wealth is that he pays his tithe

so he is paying tithe? who collect his tithes? who is he paying it to?

onuhabel1:
for what na?


Its not a forceful something u knw
Who have u seen arrested for paying?

But as Bishop David Oyedepo is paying and living large, nobody should criticisingly jealous him because according to him, his secret of wealth is that he pays his tithe

Ah!!!