Seems there are more sheeples on nairaland than I thought, so they have no place to quote in the Bible but they easily found something thats say it's not in the Bible, anyways what's my business, when u chop belleful na him u go think of to give another big man... Even if I have all the whole money , my family never even enjoy me finish talk less of one sitting duck

onuhabel1:
maybe the reason why you are not yet more than how you are now, is because you don't tithe
y not try it (The bible said, Prove me if I will not open the Windows of heaven....) and see the difference

How can you say the reason why he is not yet more than what he is?

Are you up to him

onuhabel1:

its called the blessing of Open heaven

There is nothing like 'open heavens' as a blessing for people who pay tithe. You have not even a scintilla of an idea what Jesus Christ means. You need to be taught Christ. I don't blame you. It's so clear contemporary Christianity is so far divorced from Christ and that is why you are here preaching tithe instead of preaching Christ.

As a Christian God has made Christ to be everything for you: there are no blessings per se in Christianity, no healing, no righteousness, no holiness, no wisdom, no prosperity, no truth, no life, no open heavens but all are in Christ as Christ himself. Christ himself is the blessing and the blessings, he's the healing and your health, your prosperity, your miracle, your righteousness, your wisdom, your open heavens. Since the day Jesus died and the veil of the temple (the earthly symbol of heaven) was rent into two, the heavens have been open and will always remain open for all who are in Christ. Prosperity for Christians is in Christ not tithe!!!.

'Before Abraham was I am' said Jesus in John 8:58. Christ is before all things even your most cherished so called 'Kingdom principles' (Colossians 15-17) . That was why Paul who knew that Christ was supreme above all things was able to rule out circumcision which was a COVENANT symbol(can you imagine the boldness of Paul) between God and Abraham and say it(that covenant symbol oo) doesn't matter when a man is IN CHRIST

The moment you set up any Kingdom principle whether tithe, whether healing, whether faith, whether revelation, whether the scriptures themselves as a thing in itself divorced from Christ you have set up an idol, a dead thing over which the Spirit of God has no rule because the Holy Spirit rests not even on the things of Christ per se but on Christ himself. Go and read Watchman Nee's book titled 'Christ the sum of all spiritual matters and things'

You are trying to elevate tithe above Christ. No way!

Hebrews 9:11 But when CHRIST came as high priest of the good things that are now already here...

Ephesians 1:1 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has BLESSED US with every spiritual blessings in the heavenly realms IN CHRIST JESUS

For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell within Him. Colossians 1:17

ALL THINGS ARE YOURS FOR YOU ARE OF CHRIST and CHRIST IS OF GOD. 1Corinthians 3:22

Not tithe but Christ- Christ, Christ, Christ. In heaven God does everything by his son, on earth he wants Christian do everything by his Son-not tithe.

Go and ask Enenche when was the last time he preached Christ?

Contemporary Christianity is a sleek, sleazy fraud.

The same God that loves you somehow someway needs money before he can bless you

Tithe was a law and Jesus was simply referring to the most important things of the law n Tithe was not one of them. Yes he endorsed tithing in that chapter because the law was not yet fulfilled by then cos he has not died. Read Hebrew chapter 7&10.u will understand better. Tell me which of Jesus disciples pay tithes... Or receive tithes. Let's read for ourselves please don't allow God's of men deceive us.

The tithe did not start with the law of Moses, ok, true I agree, it started with Abraham.

Now let's be sincere, if the tithe we claim to practice is not that which was contained in the law of Moses, then we must be lying to ourselves.
My reason for saying this is because the tithe we preach is not the same as the one practiced by Abraham, but by Moses.

Abraham only tithed once in his entire life, so when are we going to stop deceiving ourselves?

MrBottle:
Why won't he be rich, when he put his money right back to his pocket all in the name of tithing.

you see yourself... Winners Chapel does not pay its tithe to itself, it pays her tithe to a different ministry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOTnTWRDfw

onuhabel1:


Eat this


# KPGWC2017
2017 KINGDOM POWER AND GLORY WORLD CONFERENCE (DAY 4 – WORSHIP AND WONDERS NIGHT) – 24TH NOVEMBER 2017
ANCHOR SCRIPTURE(S): MALACHI 3:7-12
MESSAGE TOPIC: THE TITHE
By: Dr. Paul Enenche
SERVICE OBJECTIVES:
1. Understanding the Tithe
2. Understanding the value of the Tithe
3. Understanding the place or otherwise of the Tithe in the New Testament
The Tithe is a controversial and grossly misunderstood subject
Beware of being pastored by social media
Tithing is such a controversial issue because of the grip that money has on people (Matt. 6:24; Luke 16:13)
True spirituality is confirmed in money matters
WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
5. Believers are the seed of Abraham and are commanded to walk in the steps of Abraham (Gal. 3:16, 7; Rom. 4:12)
As a child of God, you are a seed of Abraham and are expected to follow his steps
THE STEPS OF ABRAHAM:
5a. Unconditional obedience to God
5b. Believing God without question
5c. Seeing the future before it arrives (Gen. 13:14-15)
5d. Servicing the needs of the needy (Gen. 14:14)
5e. Holding nothing back from God (Gen. 22:2)
5f. Giving God a tenth of your income
5g. Looking up to nobody but God (Gen. 14:22-23)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament (Heb. 7:1-
The law od first mention – the greatest mention you can ever get in scripture is from the first time it is mentioned in Scripture
8. In the New Testament, believers exist far beyond the Tithe (Prov. 23:26; Rom. 12:1; 2Cor. 8:1-5; Phil. 4:15-19)
Anyone that struggles with the payment of tithes either does not know God or has not surrendered themselves totally to God
WHY DO WE TITHE?
1. God owns both the earth and everything in it (Ps. 24:1; Ps. 50:12; Hag. 2:
2. God owns man’s life, man’s strength and everything responsible for man’s income (Isa. 43:21; Acts 17:28)
3. God receives our honour and appreciation through our giving (Prov. 3:9-10)
WHAT DOES TITHING CONFIRM?
1. It confirms God’s ownership of all things
2. It confirms man’s stewardship of God’s resources
3. It confirms our conquest of mammon (Matt. 6:24)
4. It confirms our God-first existence (Matt. 6:33)
5. It confirms the authenticity of our worship (Rom. 12:1-2)
FACTS ABOUT THE TITHE:
1. The Tithe belongs to God
2. The Tithe is paid at the place of one’s spiritual covering
3. The Tithe is meant to be the Tithe of all
4. The Tithe is to be paid in whole
5. Everybody pays Tithe including the priest (Heb. 7:9)
THE BENEFITS OF THE TITHE:
1. Access to supernatural supplies (Mal. 3:10-12)
2. Existence above earthly economy (Mal. 3:10-12; Phil. 4:19)
3. Open heavens for the rain of visions, revelations and Divine ideas
4. Security and insurance of man’s blessings
5. The resistance of the activities of the devourer
6. The conversion of promises to blessings (Heb. 7:6)
7. The blessing of the next generation (Heb. 7:9)

Deadness. The letter kills...

Someone please help me tell the pastor that he miss interprets the message

Goshen360:


The place Jesus said you should tithe, I guess you referring to popular Matthew 23v23. Okay, let's do this, put your name or your pastor name or Christians who Christ died for in that verse context and see how it read. Lemme help you,

New International Version
"Woe to you, [s]teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites![/s] PAUL ENENCHI, ONUHABEL1, CHRISTIANS You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

FACT and TRUTH CHECK this verse:

a. Christ would hv declared Woe on you, your pastor and Christians he died for which he had not even died for at this time

b. You, your pastor and Christians would have been TEACHERS, OF THE LAW AND HYPOCRITES.

c. It would have still being tenth of your SPICES which still agricultural products under the law

d. You, your pastor and Christians would have NEGLECTED THE MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS OF THE LAW and btw, what does God required? I guess the same way you tithers will see someone dying in the hospital and still close your eyes but rather take a tenth to religious gathering. The same way, you hypocrites see someone who hasn't paid school fees and pass by, the same way y'all see someone hungry and naked and pass by thinking you've done God great service once your tenth is paid.

2. Where in Hebrews did he say we should tithe?

I was about 13 or 14 years old when I vowed to take money to less privilege instead of the church.

Someone asked our Rev: if on a Saturday, he had packaged his tithe, only for his neighbor to ask him for assistance cos his child was dying in the hospital. should he pay the tithe or give his neighbor. Pastor told this man if he gave the neighbor , God would punish him.

I was surprised. Me, I don't take any tithe to church. I know where I take mine to.

onuhabel1:
Last night, God's servant, Dr Paul Enenche of Dunamis exposed the truth of tithing pointing out how Jesus endorsed in
Matt 23:23 says

New Living Translation
"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.

King James Bible
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

The passage shows that Jesus endorsed tithing but rebuked tithing in iniquity, so we should tithe!
*You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.* (NLT)
Excerpts from the teaching:

WHAT IS THE TITHE ABOUT?
1. The Tithe is one-tenth of a person’s income
2. The Tithe existed before the law of Moses (Gen. 14:18-20; 2Cor. 9:6-7)
The Tithe did not come with the law of Moses so it cannot go with the law Moses. It existed far before the law and will continue to exist far after the law.
3. The Tithe did not begin as a commandment, it began as a Kingdom principle delivered by revelation (Gen. 14:18-20)
Nobody told Abraham to tithe, it was revealed to him by God
4. Kingdom principles and revelations are universal in application (Mark 13:37)
Time does not change Divine principles and revelations (Gen. 17:1; Matt. 5:48; 2Cor. 13:11)
6. Tithing was confirmed and commended by the Master in the New Testament (Matt. 23:23; Luke 11:42; Lev. 27:30)
7. The Tithe was validated by Paul the Apostle in the New Testament [Heb. 7:1-8]


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I notice this pastor is already sweating profusely laboring to defend the indefensible. So I am not going to add so much to his sorrow.
It is however a shame that Nigerian churches get to be pastored by individuals who obviously do not even understand the Bible in the first place.
I do not have much time, else I would have refuted each of the ridiculous points this so-called pastor dredged up to support tithing. We all know that tithing isn't really what of you are trying to support, what you are really supporting and preserving is the source of your livelihood.

That said. Circumcision was as old as tithing...It too predated the law by about 500 years and yet "it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to the Apostles" not to heap the burden of circumcision on the gentile (non-Jewish) Christians. Circumcision was done away with, settled once and for in the new testament. Why should tithing, that came through the same man (Abraham) before the Law should survive the redemptive work of Christ? I know why, it's because it enriches our salesmen M.O.G.s.
Abraham paid a tenth from another person's properties (spoil of war) and not from his own possession. He paid it once and it was never again reported that he paid it again. Neither did he pass it along to his children... Now you have so mischievously labelled it a revelation and kingdom principle. Could it possible that Abraham who had received this so-called revelation did not even notice it was a revelation? So, if I do something randomly tomorrow, like sharing my bread in two and giving it to someone I meet on the road; are you saying hundreds of years from now my descendants get to consider that simple act of courtesy a revelation and a kingdom principle?

Tithe is dead. The death of Christ killed it. The more you seek to be justified by the Law (including tithing) the more you fall from grace.

lol Mathew 23.23 was basically about the phrases and sadducees who practices religion cos they feel it's there duty to give tithe , mint etc why neglecting the need to be rightouse and serve God from the heart ! and its exactly the same thing happening today , pastors dwell more on tithing at church and how your blessings are attached to it , why neglecting to preach the world that without holiness no man shall see the lord .. it's all about blessing , prosperity , how u will be a landlord even wen u av no job at hand . For seek ur first the kingdom of God and all other things will Ben added unto u !

Mujtahida:

There is nothing like 'open heavens' as a blessing for people who pay tithe. You have not even a scintilla of an idea what Jesus Christ means. You need to be taught Christ. I don't blame you. It's so clear contemporary Christianity is so far divorced from Christ and that is why you are here preaching tithe instead of preaching Christ. As a Christian God has made Christ to be everything for you: there are no blessings per se in Christianity, no healing, no righteousness, no holiness, no wisdom, no prosperity, no truth, no life, no open heavens but all are in Christ as Christ himself. Christ himself is the blessing and the blessings, he's the healing and your health, your prosperity, your miracle, your righteousness, your wisdom, your open heavens. Since the day Jesus died and the veil of the temple (the earthly symbol of heaven) was rent into two, the heavens have been open and will always remain open for all who are in Christ. Prosperity for Christians is in Christ not tithe!!!. 'Before Abraham was I am' said Jesus in John 8:58. Christ is before all things even your most cherished so called 'Kingdom principles' (Colossians 15-17) . That was why Paul who knew that Christ was supreme above all things was able to rule out circumcision which was a COVENANT symbol(can you imagine the boldness of Paul) between God and Abraham and say it(that covenant symbol oo) doesn't matter when a man is IN CHRIST

The moment you set up any Kingdom principle whether tithe, whether healing, whether faith, whether revelation, whether the scriptures themselves as a thing in itself divorced from Christ you have set up an idol, a dead thing over which the Spirit of God has no rule because the Holy Spirit rests not even on the things of Christ but Christ himself. Go and read Watchman Nee's book titled 'Christ the sum of all spiritual matters and things'

You are trying to elevate tithe above Christ. No way!

Hebrews 9:11 But when CHRIST came as high priest of the good things that are now already here

Ephesians 1:1 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has BLESSED US with every spiritual blessings in the heavenly realms IN CHRIST JESUS

For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell within HIM Colossians 1:17

ALL THINGS ARE YOURS FOR YOU ARE OF CHRIST and CHRIST IS OF GOD

Not tithe but Christ- Christ, Christ, Christ. In heaven God does everything by his son, on earth he wants Christian do everything by his Son-not tithe.

Go and ask Enenche when was the last time he preached Christ?

Contemporary Christianity is a sleek, sleazy fraud.

You nailed it. Sometimes i get sick and tired of those contemporary Christian preacher. There should be a general turn around. They've lost it.

vamsexy:
Tithe was a law and Jesus was simply referring to the most important things of the law n Tithe was not one of them. Yes he endorsed tithing in that chapter because the law was not yet fulfilled by then cos he has not died. Read Hebrew chapter 7&10.u will understand better. Tell me which of Jesus disciples pay tithes... Or receive tithes. Let's read for ourselves please don't allow God's of men deceive us.

Hebrews 7King James Version (KJV)

7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

bizme:


I notice this pastor is already sweating profusely laboring to defend the indefensible. So I am not going to add so much to his sorrow.
It is however a shame that Nigerian churches get to be pastored by individuals who obviously do not even understand the Bible in the first place.
I do not have much time, else I would have refuted each of the ridiculous points this so-called pastor dredged up to support tithing. We all know that tithing isn't really what of you are trying to support, what you are really supporting and preserving is the source of your livelihood.

That said. Circumcision was as old as tithing...It too predated the law by about 500 years and yet "it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to the Apostles" not to heap the burden of circumcision on the gentile (non-Jewish) Christians. Circumcision was done away with, settled once and for in the new testament. Why should tithing, that came through the same man (Abraham) before the Law should survive the redemptive work of Christ? I know why, it's because it enriches our salesmen M.O.G.s.
Abraham paid a tenth from another person's properties (spoil of war) and not from his own possession. He paid it once and it was never again reported that he paid it again. Neither did he pass it along to his children... Now you have so mischievously labelled it a revelation and kingdom principle. Could it possible that Abraham who had received this so-called revelation did not even notice it was a revelation? So, if I do something randomly tomorrow, like sharing my bread in two and giving it to someone I meet on the road; are you saying hundreds of years from now my descendants get to consider that simple act of courtesy a revelation and a kingdom principle?

Tithe is dead. The death of Christ killed it. The more you seek to be justified by the Law (including tithing) the more you fall from grace.

to add to it , if it's really a kingdom principle like they say ! I remember that tithe were of farm products or properties etc ! So why aren't the pastors applying the farm products as means of tithing and why money ?

MrBottle:
Where is that---- your pastor's bank account. ? And you said that God receives the tithes, how.? This ain't no burnt offerings that has evidence of being received by God---you know. God ain't in that warehouse or storehouse or whatever.-----so who receives it----

So son, if I'm meant to understand your plight about tithe payment is the believe that tithes should be paid but not to the the pastors? 'Cause clearly from your ceaseless argument, you never rebuffed tithing in itself

Please am I the only one still searching for the ‘endorsement’ by Jesus. Well make I go sleep I have church this morning.

onuhabel1:
did God came down from heaven to collect Abraham's tithe?
After that event, the Levites began to be in charge
And today, priesthood is not by inheritance but calling
So, those called of God as ministers collets the tithe while God receives it

your writeup is fraudulent, in today's world how do you know who calls who?

I can wakeup tomorrow and say I've been called, I attend a school of theology and set up a church,
Have members pay tithes and boom!.... Now how are you sure I was called?

onuhabel1:
am quoting the bible for you, Malachi 3

The Christians Tithe and Muslims Zakah means d same thing,but totally different In the Sense that The Christians Tithe is Making PASTORS rich in Wealth becos the PASTORS WILL count the TITHES to his own personal gain but the Muslims only give Tithes/Zakat to the Poor Ones and that is exactly what the Pastors most especially Africa Pastors should be doing..It is only In Africa U will see Men Of God / Pastors using expensive things like Cars,Houses,Shoes,Clothes n so o

onuhabel1:

It says
What I say to one, I say to all
so what God said to Abraham, he's saying to us also

I disagree with you, and if you insist then go on and sacrifice your son because God asked Abraham to.

This was precisely the kind of atmosphere that prevailed during Paul's time when the judaizers were spreading the word about circumcision to the extent that Christ was relegated to the background. 'Circumcise, circumcision, circumscise, circumcision' they cried everywhere they went, they threatened people with it, they carved a line of divide between those who were circumcised and those who were not just like our titherzers are doing today.

Paul tire. He said which kain wahala be dis. He took his pen and wrote to the Galatians 'For in Christ, neither circumcision nor uncircumscision counts, what counts is faith expressing itself through love.'
He said some FALSE BROTHERS have spied on them to rob them of the freedom they have in Christ but that they did not give in to the false brothers for a moment. He said it is for freedom that Christ has set you free. Read the whole book of Galatians.

Note: just like tithe, circumcision predated the law. Infact unlike tithe it was a covenant symbol between God and Abraham therefore giving it more importance before God than tithe.
Just like tithe, circumcision was made part of the law.

Yet Paul said circumcision or uncircumscision don't count.
If you like circumscise, if you like don't. Doesn't matter. Same thing with tithe. If you like tithe, if you like don't tithe. Doesn't matter.
That's what Paul's epistle to the Nigerians would definitely say.

Thief Thief pastors. Without thite they know they won't live.

A pastor speaking against tithe is akin to a doctor asking patients not to buy registration card when they go to a hospital OR a restaurant owner advising people to stop eating outside OR transportation companies warning people to stop travelling.

Who would pour sand in his/her own garri?

My people sef.

onuhabel1:
for what na?


Its not a forceful something u knw
Who have u seen arrested for paying?

But as Bishop David Oyedepo is paying and living large, nobody should criticisingly jealous him because according to him, his secret of wealth is that he pays his tithe

who is oyedepo paying his tithe to?

onuhabel1:
Yea, if what Jesus said to one person, he says to all

Don't u know Jesus was with God from the beginning and he's God?

If he told Abraham, it applies to us as well, Paul the apostle also spoke abt tithing, u knw?

Do what got asked you to do: 'SEEK HIM FIRST AND EVERY OTHER THING SHALL BE ADDED'. Stop stylishly using God to do osusu and MMM. All these 'financial Christians'. They have recorded all their tithe in their tithe booklet and have gone into payers and fasting for an equal reward.

I'm not saying U should not pay tithe, what I am saying is this: Love others, seek God and preach the good news. If U can't do any of these things and many more according to His grace, ur Christianity is a waste.

meanwhile freez dey one corner dey b like.....

Jesus came to preach the gospel and have no records of tithe collected by him simply because he realized his death meant an end to us using tithe and sacrifices to seek God's forgiveness...

So, there was tithe prescribed to take care of the Levites but Tithe as we know it today is not tithe as it was in the mosaic law, which has been abolished:

Colossians 2:13 ---Furthermore, though you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcised state of your flesh, God made you alive together with him. He kindly forgave us all our trespasses 14 and erased the handwritten document that consisted of decrees and was in opposition to us. He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.

Ephissians 2:12 At that time you were without Christ, alienated from the state of Israel, strangers to the covenants of the promise; you had no hope and were without God in the world. 13 But now in union with Christ Jesus, you who were once far off have come to be near by the blood of the Christ. 14 For he is our peace, the one who made the two groups one and destroyed the wall in between that fenced them off. 15 By means of his flesh he abolished the enmity, the Law of commandments consisting in decrees, in order to make the two groups in union with himself into one new man and to make peace


Conclusion: Read this bible verses:

Hebrew 7: 5 True, according to the Law, those of the sons of Leʹvi who receive their priestly office have a commandment to collect tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, even though these are descendants of Abraham. 6 But this man who did not trace his genealogy from them took tithes from Abraham and blessed the one who had the promises. 7 Now it is undeniable that the lesser one is blessed by the greater 8 And in the one case, it is men who are dying who receive tithes, but in the other case, it is someone of whom witness is given that he lives. 9 And it could be said that even Leʹvi, who receives tithes, has paid tithes through Abraham, 10 for he was still a future descendant of his forefather when Mel·chizʹe·dek met him. 11 If, then, perfection was attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for it was a feature of the Law that was given to the people), what further need would there be for another priest to arise who is said to be in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek and not in the manner of Aaron? 12 For since the priesthood is being changed, it becomes necessary to change the Law as well. 13 For the man about whom these things are said came from another tribe, from which no one has officiated at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord has descended from Judah, yet Moses said nothing about priests coming from that tribe........18 So, then, the former commandment is set aside because it is weak and ineffective. 19 For the Law made nothing perfect, but the introduction of a better hope did, through which we are drawing near to God.

fernandoc:
Ride on pastor. Some people are just looking for and excuse to be stingy and rob God. Those who really tithe know it's working and no amount of propaganda can take away the truth from them.

Mr, the Hebrew 7:1-8 he was referring to was talking about descendants of Levi. Your pastors aren't descendants of Levi. They are Nigerians.

Please, who can explain in detail Deuteronomy 14:22-27? Thanks

Mujtahida:
This was precisely the kind of atmosphere that prevailed during Paul's time when the judaizers were spreading the word about circumcision to the extent that Christ was relegated to the background. 'Circumcise, circumcision, circumscise, circumcision' they cried everywhere they went, they threatened people with it, they carved a line of divide between those who were circumcised and those who were not.
Paul tire. He said which kain wahala be dis. He took his pen and wrote in Galatians For in Christ, neither circumcision nor uncircumscision counts, what counts is faith expressing itself through love.
He said some brothers have spied on them to Rob them of the freedom they have in Christ but that they did not give in to them for a moment. He said it is for freedom that Christ has set you free

Note: just like tithe, circumcision predated the law. Infact unlike tithe it was a covenant symbol between God and Abraham therefore giving it more importance before God than tithe.
Just like tithe, circumcision was made part of the law.

Yet Paul said circumcision or uncircumscision don't count.
If you like circumscise, if you like don't. Doesn't matter. Same thing with tithe. If you like tithe, if you like don't tithe. Doesn't matter.

God bless U

Abraham did not Tithe, only gave a tenth of the spoils of war,....... Unless this MOG is interpreting every tenth of one's money or item given out is a Tithe.
Every giving to man is profitable directly or indirectly and there is reward for all.
The conext of tithing started after God divided the Isreal to 12 tribes, so we can as well say It came with the law, unless the pastor can show where regular tithing was done before the law.