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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:24pm On Dec 04, 2017
Kog45:
My man it's a pity that we have to go for keepers keeping in division 3 and regional league in Europe for super eagles,no thank to Ikeme health and lack of class in Akpeyi and Ezenwa,if not we will not be discussing who is better among the trio who are keeping in team B in their various clubs.

Oh my God, Uzoho playing regularly in division 3 is now a thing of joy abi and Maduka keeping with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B is now a pride for our national team,also Alampasu a bench warmer ,honestly Akpeyi and Ezenwa really fall my hand.

Let me ask you this,if Uzoho find himself in Deportivo main team back as second keeper and always on the bench would you pick Maduka ahead of him due to his playing time in regional league with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B cos you are rating the same Maduka ahead of Alampasu now,this is a guy nobody mentioned here but now a beautiful bride just like the way some guys were defending Nwakili invitation whereas we have better performing midfielder in the same Norwegian league.


Thank you my brother.


OMG! Are those the keepers we want to use to face Croatia and Argentina?

I have finally joined the call for Enyeama.

#bringbackenyeama
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:29pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:


elyte89 has a point. Just that he may just have blown it out if proportion. Even Rohr has mentioned severally that Victor Moses is his greatest attacking threat. We definitely need him in the team. Onazi's work rate, athletism and versatility are a major boost for our midfield. Ogu is not as athletic as Onazi like wise in terms of work rate. And of course Mikel, He is the Igwe of the team. Yes no player is indispensable but some players if fit will definitely be vital to our campaign.

Onazi-Mikel-Moses: Are also senior members of the team, with also good 2014 WC experience in their bags. Baring any injures they have both legs in Russia already.
elyte89 was absolutely right,do they think Rohr will be happy without Moses in his team,beating Argentina is not the ultimate,we should remember it was a friendly match and not WC match.

Good that we did it in the absence of some of our regulars cos it gives us options but come against Croatia and the rest we want our best like Moses,Onazi,Mikel,Balogun,Ndidi,Ekong, Iwobi,Nacho,Ighalo available.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:29pm On Dec 04, 2017
Kog45:
My man it's a pity that we have to go for keepers keeping in division 3 and regional league in Europe for super eagles,no thank to Ikeme health and lack of class in Akpeyi and Ezenwa,if not we will not be discussing who is better among the trio who are keeping in team B in their various clubs.

Oh my God,Uzoho playing regularly in division 3 is now a thing of joy abi and Maduka keeping with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B is now a pride for our national team,also Alampasu a bench warmer,honestly Akpeyi and Ezenwa really fall my hand.

Let me ask you this,if Uzoho find himself in Deportivo main team back as second keeper and always on the bench would you pick Maduka ahead of him due to his playing time in regional league with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B cos you are rating the same Maduka ahead of Alampasu now,this is a guy nobody mentioned here but now a beautiful bride just like the way some guys were defending Nwakili invitation whereas we have better performing midfielder in the same Norwegian league.

na condition make crayfish bend.

If Ezenwa was up to it, we would not be discussing any of those three, would we?

All these IFs no mean anything. The fact on ground is that we are having a crisis in the goalie area and anyone playing regularly should be ranked highly.

We just need a goalie that plays well and right now Uzoho is ahead of Alamps because:

1) He plays regularly

2) He had a comparatively better debut

Uzoho and Alampasu are dragging one spot as far as I am concerned...Maduka is not even in the mix

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:32pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you my brother.


OMG! Are those the keepers we want to use to face Croatia and Argentina?

I have finally joined the call for Enyeama.

#bringbackenyeama
is Enyeama currently better than those players?

When last did Enyeama kick a ball?

His own recall get condition: Find a club by January and play or forget World Cup....

I am not joining any call for Enyeama until January when he fulfills his own conditions, he no even better pass Ikeme currently

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:34pm On Dec 04, 2017
We really need an experienced gk. All smallie keepers are not ready for world cup. gk needs experience a lot o

Uzoho has potentials but he shouldn't be our main keeper going to the world cup.

We really enyeama to get his acts together before the world cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:35pm On Dec 04, 2017
Kog45:
elyte89 was absolutely right,do they think Rohr will be happy without Moses in his team,beating Argentina is not the ultimate,we should remember it was a friendly match and not WC match.

Good that we did it in the absence of some of our regulars cos it gives us options but come against Croatia and the rest we want our best like Moses,Onazi,Mikel,Balogun,Ndidi,Ekong, Iwobi,Nacho,Ighalo available.

That is the problem with Nigerian fans. We easily get carried away by our most recent success. That SA loss is still there to remind us of the importance of those senior players in the team. See them now lining up Uzoho, Okoye and Alampasu as our 3 keepers to the world cup.

There is a stage you get to in the world cup that it is the experience of the senior players that the younger ones would be ridding on to see the team going.

The world cup ticket is very hard to come by o. Ask countries like Egypt, Zambia, Senegal, DRC. We need to maximize every opportunity to play in the World Cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:35pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you my brother.


OMG! Are those the keepers we want to use to face Croatia and Argentina?

I have finally joined the call for Enyeama.

#bringbackenyeama
How i wish Uzoho continue his development as Deportivo number one but going back to team B raised my concerns and now Rohr is going for Maduka Okoye when we have Uzoho.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:36pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
is Enyeama currently better than those players?

When last did Enyeama kick a ball?

His own recall get condition: Find a club by January and play or forget World Cup....

I am not joining any call for Enyeama until January when he fulfills his own conditions, he no even better pass Ikeme currently

Lol grin

Do u seriously want to compare enyeama with any of those small Boys

Once enyeama gets a club and comes to super eagles; he will be our undisputed first choice gk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:39pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
is Enyeama currently better than those players?

When last did Enyeama kick a ball?

His own recall get condition: Find a club by January and play or forget World Cup....

I am not joining any call for Enyeama until January when he fulfills his own conditions, he no even better pass Ikeme currently



The goal keeping position for the world cup is not for kids.

Rohr has even stated he has plans for Enyeama if he can settle his cub issue well and early enough.

Goal keepers don't lose form like that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:40pm On Dec 04, 2017
emmyspark007:

Lol grin

Do u seriously want to compare enyeama with any of those small Boys

Once enyeama gets a club and comes to super eagles; he will be our undisputed gk
like I said....until Enyeama gets the club.

I did not say Enyeama is worse than the small boys, but currently, Enyeama is just about as fit as Ikeme for anything

You are quoting me to tell me the same thing I am saying

So, if Enyeama does not get a club and playing time by January, he will still displace the small boys? Match rusty Enyeama?

So, you would rather take rusted engine to WC than active one?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:40pm On Dec 04, 2017
emmyspark007:

Lol grin

Do u seriously want to compare enyeama with any of those small Boys

Once enyeama gets a club and comes to super eagles; he will be our undisputed first choice gk

Just imagine. Are we going going to the U20 World Cup?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:42pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
like I said....until Enyeama gets the club.

I did not say Enyeama is worse than the small boys, but currently, Enyeama is just about as fit as Ikeme for anything

You are quoting me to tell me the same thing I am saying

So, if Enyeama does not get a club and playing time by January, he will still displace the small boys? Match rusty Enyeama?

So, you would rather take rusted engine to WC than active one?

Sis calm down. This is a goal keeping position and not a striker position.

Those boys are not World Cup materials. I rather fall back to Ezenwa if Enyeama does not make it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Teekim: 4:44pm On Dec 04, 2017
Yes, the game against the Argentines was just a friendly, but the Super Eagles prosecuted that game in class and any team that overlooks that result is doing it at its own peril.
I have not had the time take a another look at the game but I'd confidently say we THRASHED Argentina I don't know how the magic happened but I think that formation (3-5-2) could be an asset for our team, it should be mastered and used in the game against the Croatian team.
In that friendly against Argentina we could have scored more goals than we did score or maybe we even had more scoring chances than they did; So 3-5-2 will work against Croatia if prosecuted rightly.
On to the next one; Slow/Selfish Play: This alone is enough to make us crash out of the group and Victor Moses is an issue when it comes to this; He holds the ball too much Genort Rohr needs to talk some sense into him b/c this is World cup, Not Nations Cup.
But can anyone take his place at least for the against Croatia? That's if he doesn't learn following the friendlies prior to the Mundial.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:44pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:



The goal keeping position for the world cup is not for kids.

Rohr has even stated he has plans for Enyeama if he can settle his cub issue well and early enough.

Goal keepers don't lose form like that.
and if he can't?

You are not saying anything different....if Enyeama does not sort out his club issues, WHAT NEXT?

You are talking as if I said we should carry Uzoho as first choice undecided

BTW, World Cup is not for kids, how old was Enyeama when he kept at his first World Cup?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:45pm On Dec 04, 2017
Kog45:
How i wish Uzoho continue his development as Deportivo number one but going back to team B raised my concerns and now Rohr is going for Maduka Okoye when we have Uzoho.

All those are desperate measures.

A drowning man grabs anything he sees close to him even if it will do him no good.

The bitter truth now is we need Enyeama back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:45pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
and if he can't?

You are not saying anything different....if Enyeama does not sort out his club issues, WHAT NEXT?

You are talking as if I said we should carry Uzoho as first choice undecided

BTW, World Cup is not for kids, how old was Enyeama when he kept at his first World Cup?

He definitely would. Lets stay positive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:45pm On Dec 04, 2017
Kog45:
My man it's a pity that we have to go for keepers keeping in division 3 and regional league in Europe for super eagles,no thank to Ikeme health and lack of class in Akpeyi and Ezenwa,if not we will not be discussing who is better among the trio who are keeping in team B in their various clubs.

Oh my God,Uzoho playing regularly in division 3 is now a thing of joy abi and Maduka keeping with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B is now a pride for our national team,also Alampasu a bench warmer,honestly Akpeyi and Ezenwa really fall my hand.

Let me ask you this,if Uzoho find himself in Deportivo main team back as second keeper and always on the bench would you pick Maduka ahead of him due to his playing time in regional league with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B cos you are rating the same Maduka ahead of Alampasu now,this is a guy nobody mentioned here but now a beautiful bride just like the way some guys were defending Nwakili invitation whereas we have better performing midfielder in the same Norwegian league.


It is a comparison not a thing of joy. Alampasu has not been playing games, he can not be better than those keeping competitively every week. Alampasu is not even second choice. Most times, he does not even make the bench.

Rating Maduka ahead is simply because he is playing not because he is new.

Realistically, none of them should be first choice at the WC.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:46pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
na condition make crayfish bend.

If Ezenwa was up to it, we would not be discussing any of those three, would we?

All these IFs no mean anything. The fact on ground is that we are having a crisis in the goalie area and anyone playing regularly should be ranked highly.

We just need a goalie that plays well and right now Uzoho is ahead of Alamps because:

1) He plays regularly

2) He had a comparatively better debut

Uzoho and Alampasu are dragging one spot as far as I am concerned...Maduka is not even in the mix
Thank you for the last paragraph
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:48pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:


Sis calm down. This is a goal keeping position and not a striker position.

Those boys are not World Cup materials. I rather fall back to Ezenwa if Enyeama does not make it.
Is it not 3 goalies for the World Cup again? Is it just one?


So, Uzoho is not good enough for third choice goalie sef?

Hian! Make una try dey understand pesin for this thread before quoting


My points are-


1) Uzoho and Alampasu are competing for ONE spot in our team

2) Pending when and if Enyeama sorts out his club issues, he is not on my list of World Cup attendees
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:50pm On Dec 04, 2017
Icon4s:


He definitely would. Lets stay positive.
I like to stay realistic.


Na wetin make I never drop any list again since. Na January ending I go know who dey Russia, no be now wey 'IF' just dey fly up and down

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 4:51pm On Dec 04, 2017
For me, Maduka was only mentioned by Rohr as a potential U-20 or U-23 goalkeeper. He is obviously not ready for the World Cup challenge yet.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 4:51pm On Dec 04, 2017
Random fun fact:

Russia has ELEVEN time zones shocked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:55pm On Dec 04, 2017
tbaba1234:


It is a comparison not a thing of joy. Alampasu has not been playing games, he can not be better than those keeping competitively every week. Alampasu is not even second choice. Most times, he does not even make the bench.

Rating Maduka ahead is simply because he is playing not because he is new.

Realistically, none of them should be first choice at the WC.

My major focus is CHAN hope Alloy would give Dele Ajiboye a chance which is slim cos Ezenwa is the captain.

Dele Ajiboye is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa coz watching the guy against Guinea tells me a lot,so confident,read his line very well and played the ball on the ground with his defenders just like Uzoho did against Argentina,these are attributes of a good keeper.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:56pm On Dec 04, 2017
tbaba1234:


How many competitive games has Alampasu played this season?

In this case, Francis Uzoho is ahead of Axel Werner and Eduardo Carvalho.

I see.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:02pm On Dec 04, 2017
forgiveness:


In this case, Francis Uzoho is ahead of Axel Werner and Eduardo Carvalho.

I see.
so Alampasu is as good as Werner and Carvalho with equal professional experience?

Tell me more grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:03pm On Dec 04, 2017
tbaba1234:


It is a comparison not a thing of joy. Alampasu has not been playing games, he can not be better than those keeping competitively every week. Alampasu is not even second choice. Most times, he does not even make the bench.

Rating Maduka ahead is simply because he is playing not because he is new.

Realistically, none of them should be first choice at the WC.

My major focus is CHAN hope Alloy would give Dele Ajiboye a chance which is slim cos Ezenwa is the captain.

Dele Ajiboye is better than Akpeyi and Ezenwa coz watching the guy against Guinea tells me a lot,so confident,read his line very well and played the ball on the ground with his defenders just like Uzoho did against Argentina,these are the attributes of a good keeper.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by alexie4real(m): 5:06pm On Dec 04, 2017
I HAVE THE BELIEF THAT IKEME WOULD SURELY BE BACK FOR THE WORLD CUP

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eazyjakes(m): 5:08pm On Dec 04, 2017
There is nothing wrong with Francis Uzoho being the first choice if he performs better than the other goalkeepers in camp. He was brought into the fray due to the unconvincing performance of the other guys. Enyeama was only 20 and was still in enyimba when he made his debut against England at Korea/Japan 2002. So much fuss about the club they play for......match fitness, player quality and good team preparedness are better criteria for a solid performance than the clubside u play for....ask the Korean team of 2002 and the Costa Rican team of 2014!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
Teekim:
Yes, the game against the Argentines was just a friendly, but the Super Eagles prosecuted that game in class and any team that overlooks that result is doing it at its own peril.
I have not had the time take a another look at the game but I'd confidently say we THRASHED Argentina I don't know how the magic happened but I think that formation (3-5-2) could be an asset for our team, it should be mastered and used in the game against the Croatian team.
In that friendly against Argentina we could have scored more goals than we did score or maybe we even had more scoring chances than they did; So 3-5-2 will work against Croatia if prosecuted rightly.
On to the next one; Slow/Selfish Play: This alone is enough to make us crash out of the group and Victor Moses is an issue when it comes to this; He holds the ball too much Genort Rohr needs to talk some sense into him b/c this is World cup, Not Nations Cup.
But can anyone take his place at least for the against Croatia? That's if he doesn't learn following the friendlies prior to the Mundial.

If we play 3-5-2

Moses is going to partner upfront with Ighalo (or whoever strikes)

Because we would be rendering ourselves a disservice to use Moses as wing back. We would starve ourselves of Moses usefulness upfront and Ebuehi's defensive/attacking guile.



This is our best 3-5-2 formation IMO



------------Awaziem----Ekong----Balogun----------------

Ebuehi--------Onazi-------------Ndidi---------------Idowu


-----------------------Mikel---------------------------------

Moses
Ighalo


This is a terror squad.

Ebuehi is fast. HE recovers fast to help defensively and he overlaps very well in the attack. He even delivered a sweet cross to Iheanacho which the latter did not convert.

Moses will terrorize the opponent with speed and dribbles on the counter.

Bryan Idowu is a good set piece taker and he also knows how to score.

Iwobi/Simon/Onyekuru can come in for Moses later in the game when we have a comfortable lead or if we have to switch back to 4-3-3

Ighalo will perform better than Iheanacho as a target man. He will pose problem to his defenders. Him and Moses will be a deadly combo.

Overall this is a defensive formation. Even our strikers (Moses, Ighalo) can defend. Even teams like Germany would find us hard to break if we sit and defend like against Germany while we slaughter them on the counter if they are not careful.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:09pm On Dec 04, 2017
safarigirl:
Is it not 3 goalies for the World Cup again? Is it just one?


So, Uzoho is not good enough for third choice goalie sef?

Hian! Make una try dey understand pesin for this thread before quoting


My points are-


1) Uzoho and Alampasu are competing for ONE spot in our team

2) Pending when and if Enyeama sorts out his club issues, he is not on my list of World Cup attendees


I was referring to first choice
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:11pm On Dec 04, 2017
Questence:


If we play 3-5-2

Moses is going to partner upfront with Ighalo (or whoever strikes)

Because we would be rendering ourselves a disservice to use Moses as wing back. We would starve ourselves of Moses usefulness upfront and Ebuehi's defensive/attacking guile.



This is our best 3-5-2 formation IMO



------------Awaziem----Ekong----Balogun----------------

Ebuehi--------Onazi-------------Ndidi---------------Idowu


-----------------------Mikel---------------------------------

Moses
Ighalo


This is a terror squad.

Ebuehi is fast. HE recovers fast to help defensively and he overlaps very well in the attack. He even delivered a sweet cross to Iheanacho which the latter did not convert.

Moses will terrorize the opponent with speed and dribbles on the counter.

Bryan Idowu is a good set piece taker and he also knows how to score.

Iwobi/Simon/Onyekuru can come in for Moses later in the game when we have a comfortable lead or if we have to switch back to 4-3-3

Ighalo will perform better than Iheanacho as a target man. He will pose problem to his defenders. Him and Moses will be a deadly combo.

Overall this is a defensive formation. Even our strikers (Moses, Ighalo) can defend. Even teams like Germany would find us hard to break if we sit and defend like against Germany while we slaughter them on the counter if they are not careful.

All these starting line up you guys are rolling out here, is it not too early?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 5:13pm On Dec 04, 2017
eazyjakes:
There is nothing wrong with Francis Uzoho being the first choice if he performs better than the other goalkeepers in camp. He was brought into the fray due to the unconvincing performance of the other guys. Enyeama was only 20 and was still in enyimba when he made his debut against England at Korea/Japan 2002. So much fuss about the club they play for......match fitness, player quality and good team preparedness are better criteria for a solid performance than the clubside u play for....ask the Korean team of 2002 and the Costa Rican team of 2014!

Was Enyeama first choice at that 2002 WC?

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