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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 3:51pm On Dec 17, 2017
blza:


If her purpose of visit was family visit .. then Nothing much to worry about. Remember one crucial point, she did not breach the terms of her visa. The maximum entry period is 6 months (180 days) and she didn’t breach that.

Just mention on a cover letter or in the additional information section of the form that even though in her last application , it was stated she will be in the UK for 2 weeks but stays for xyz period which is still within her allowed entry period .

The overstay of It is usually not a big deal to over stay the stated period on the application. It’s May only become an issue or raise red flags if someone claim to be working or have a business/field employed and have taken short leave to travel for a specific short period and then end up staying for months. It raises questions on the credibility of the claimed job/business.

Apply for 2 years visa if you like.

In my own case ,during my mum’s last application we stated she was going to stay for 6 weeks. She stayed for 4months 3 weeks. On her recent app, I just mentioned on her form but emphasised she didn’t breach her terms. Her 2 year visa was issued within 2 working days. So please don’t panic .

Technically that is not true especially for first visit. The number of days or weeks you indicated is very important as it links to your ability to afford that trip.

If you indicated in your visa application that you will be staying two weeks and your budget takes care of that two weeks then staying longer than that is questionabl.

A lot of people here have been refused a visa because of this many times if you read back.


Regarding this particular case..it may not be a big deal if his mum is retired but if the mum works in Nigeria or running her own business then it's a different case.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 3:59pm On Dec 17, 2017
Julify13:
Hello everyone.

Please i'd appreciate if anybody would help me further with a uk renewal visit visa i'm currently completing for my mom. she visited in the past on a 6month visa. i stated that she'd stay for two weeks but she ended up staying for 4months -do I need to address this in this next application? if yes,how please.

secondly,considering the first question above, will it be ideal for me to increase her stay time this time around or just stick to the initial two weeks?

will it be sensible if i went for a two years visa? sorry for all these questions, I get really nervous and anxious when it come to visa issues.... would really appreciate any helpful response. many thanks.

State exactly the number of weeks you want your mum to stay and avoid repeating the previous mistake of declaring less then keeping her longer that stated.

If you indicated two weeks again this time around do you think that the ECO will believe you considering what happened last time?


Yes you can go for 2yrs visa.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ony111: 5:48pm On Dec 17, 2017
Hello justwise, blza, ekpotek, go4itng and other experienced nairalanders, I intend to apply for uk visa by next year. Please how do i build Account for Uk Visa, how long and what other thing do i need to put in place to stand a chance of getting a Tourist visa
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 6:29pm On Dec 17, 2017
Ony111:
Hello justwise, blza, ekpotek, go4itng and other experienced nairalanders, I intend to apply for uk visa by next year. Please how do i build Account for Uk Visa, how long and what other thing do i need to put in place to stand a chance of getting a Tourist visa


1.Do you work or run your own business?

2. How much do you make monthly?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ony111: 8:23pm On Dec 17, 2017
Thanks Justwise for quick responsed. I just got Employed this month and my Salary is 368.k
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Julify13: 9:43pm On Dec 17, 2017
Thank you ever so much for all your responses- Ekpotek,blza,ijeshalomo,justwise.

Now here is a bit of background on this issue. My visited us in Nov 2016 and left feb 2017. Now I am with child and due to give birth soon. TBH I really want her to come and stay for about 5months and help me with the new child. Please I humbly ask that you advice me based on the questions below…

The thing is now-
(1) what to say in my cover letter as reason why she overstayed the first time (yes it was a family visit visa)
(2) if I state that I want her to stay for five months, do you think they’d think its ludicrous and not grant her? If yes, do I state that yes I want her to come and help me with the new baby?

(3) I stated that she was unemployed and has a husband in her first visa and didn’t provide any bank statements from her, rather I supplied my husbands and our land registry docs and passport docs.
(4) What do they look for in a bank statement? The fact that one has a huge lump sum of money or ability to prove that money comes in and out regardless of what is in there at a given time?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by bountykill: 10:25pm On Dec 17, 2017
The gurus in the house should please take a look at this.

bountykill:
Hello house,

I wouldn't mind a quick assessment of my chances of securing a UK visiting visa. I applied in 2013 and was denied. I was single then and was on a salary of 150k. FF to today, i am married with a kid and a net salary of about 465k but i am working as an outsourced staff for a Chinese company. I worked for 2 years with the first outsourcing firm before it was changed about 6 months ago on the same salary of 465k.

Now my issue is the short period i have worked for the present company even though I am been outsourced to the same firm. Someone suggested i go back to the previous company to get a reference letter to indicate i was working for them before.

Another concern i have is the breakdown of my pay in the payslips, the company intentionally quote a small amount as basic salary so that they can equally pay a reduced amount as pension since the pension rate is a function of the basic salary. My basic salary is 5k with allowance forming the bulk of my net salary. Will this have any implication? Or do i just avoid putting the payslips in my application?

Also i have a friend (British citizen) who relocated to the UK in January of this year. Do i get him to send me an invite or do i apply like i don't know anyone in the up?

Will appreciate you kind responses and suggestions . thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ijeshalomo(m): 10:53pm On Dec 17, 2017
You should be sincere with your application since you would be accommodating her, the financial aspect should not be a burden on her. She should provide a statement of account that will take care of her return flight. You can state 3months in her application.

Julify13:
Thank you ever so much for all your responses- Ekpotek,blza,ijeshalomo,justwise.

Now here is a bit of background on this issue. My visited us in Nov 2016 and left feb 2017. Now I am with child and due to give birth soon. TBH I really want her to come and stay for about 5months and help me with the new child. Please I humbly ask that you advice me based on the questions below…

The thing is now-
(1) what to say in my cover letter as reason why she overstayed the first time (yes it was a family visit visa)
(2) if I state that I want her to stay for five months, do you think they’d think its ludicrous and not grant her? If yes, do I state that yes I want her to come and help me with the new baby?

(3) I stated that she was unemployed and has a husband in her first visa and didn’t provide any bank statements from her, rather I supplied my husbands and our land registry docs and passport docs.
(4) What do they look for in a bank statement? The fact that one has a huge lump sum of money or ability to prove that money comes in and out regardless of what is in there at a given time?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by olystic: 4:34am On Dec 18, 2017
justwise:


Presenting a 5 months payslips rather than 6 will raise an eyebrow. Don't make that mistake because you will not be there to explain the reason.

Why the inconsistency in your monthly eatings?

The inconsistenceies are because of the following
In November I earned - salary + 13th month
In December I will earn- salary + end year bonus
In January I will earn - salary + year full housing allowance
In February i will earn - salary + balance of December bonus
In march I will earn - salary + performance appraisal add in
In April I will earn - salary + leave allowance
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ony111: 11:01am On Dec 18, 2017
justwise:
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1.Do you work or run your own business?

2. How much do you make monthly?
Thanks Justwise for quick responsed. I just got Employed this month and my Salary is 368.k
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by PreciousGemRubb: 12:53pm On Dec 18, 2017
Hello house, my dad just picked up his passport and was refused. I received a call from UKVI officer where I emphasised that I will be funding his trip 100% as he is a pensioner but still he was accessed financially. I stated that my mum will be helping out with my brothers and that was another point stated. I want to reapply for him immediately as I feel the officer judged his application wrongly and we can't appeal.

Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by talk2tegs(m): 2:21pm On Dec 18, 2017
Hello Justwise,

I have been an ardent follower of your thread and topics on Nairaland.

Kindly help me with the following questions;
1. Do I need to do 2 different applications for myself and my fiance ( Proposed wedding date 1st Quarter 2018 )
2. What documents do I need to put in place for this application in addition to the basic documents ?
3. I am a frequent traveler ( West African countries) and also did a to - fro trip to South Africa, will my travel experience count in this application ?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by talk2tegs(m): 2:22pm On Dec 18, 2017
[quote author=justwise post=63366029]

Hello Justwise,

I have been an ardent follower of your thread and topics on Nairaland.

Kindly help me with the following questions;
1. Do I need to do 2 different applications for myself and my fiance ( Proposed wedding date 1st Quarter 2018 )
2. What documents do I need to put in place for this application in addition to the basic documents ?
3. I am a frequent traveler ( West African countries) and also did a to - fro trip to South Africa, will my travel experience count in this application ?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by talk2tegs(m): 2:23pm On Dec 18, 2017
justwise:
[/b]

1.Do you work or run your own business?

2. How much do you make monthly?

Hello Justwise,

I have been an ardent follower of your thread and topics on Nairaland.

Kindly help me with the following questions;
1. Do I need to do 2 different applications for myself and my fiance ( Proposed wedding date 1st Quarter 2018 )
2. What documents do I need to put in place for this application in addition to the basic documents ?
3. I am a frequent traveler ( West African countries) and also did a to - fro trip to South Africa, will my travel experience count in this application ?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Shindaracakez: 2:55pm On Dec 18, 2017
Hello Justwise,pls do you know if applications still awaiting decision will be attended to in this period or it will be after the festive period,though my 15 working days falls within this week...
justwise:
[/b]

1.Do you work or run your own business?

2. How much do you make monthly?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 4:23pm On Dec 18, 2017
Julify13:
Thank you ever so much for all your responses- Ekpotek,blza,ijeshalomo,justwise.

Now here is a bit of background on this issue. My visited us in Nov 2016 and left feb 2017. Now I am with child and due to give birth soon. TBH I really want her to come and stay for about 5months and help me with the new child. Please I humbly ask that you advice me based on the questions below…

The thing is now-
(1) what to say in my cover letter as reason why she overstayed the first time (yes it was a family visit visa)
(2) if I state that I want her to stay for five months, do you think they’d think its ludicrous and not grant her? If yes, do I state that yes I want her to come and help me with the new baby?

(3) I stated that she was unemployed and has a husband in her first visa and didn’t provide any bank statements from her, rather I supplied my husbands and our land registry docs and passport docs.
(4) What do they look for in a bank statement? The fact that one has a huge lump sum of money or ability to prove that money comes in and out regardless of what is in there at a given time?

1. Was there any particular reasons for her over stay? If yes state the reasons and be honest about it. If there was no reason simply apologize.

2. State the correct numbers of days for the visit and support it with documents. In this case, your anti natal visits, hospital bills, expected date of delivery, emotional needs etc to justify her long stay.

3. Enclose the same documents you submitted for her previous visa, and update yours.

4. If you did not submit her bank statement in her previous application and she got the visa, then you do not need to submit any.

Like I said, her application will be assessed based on justifiable reasons for her last over stay.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 4:37pm On Dec 18, 2017
PreciousGemRubb:
Hello house, my dad just picked up his passport and was refused. I received a call from UKVI officer where I emphasised that I will be funding his trip 100% as he is a pensioner but still he was accessed financially. I stated that my mum will be helping out with my brothers and that was another point stated. I want to reapply for him immediately as I feel the officer judged his application wrongly and we can't appeal.

Sorry about this refusal. From the letter, the ECO is right. Your dad do not have any financial home tie. Without evidence of pension payment or RSA statment of account, evidence of other financial supports from your mother, the ECO thinks that your dad may over stay if approved. This is what you need to address if you intend to reapply immediately. The fact that you have assumed full sponsorship, does not means the applicant personal and financial circumstances does not count.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 10:32pm On Dec 18, 2017
Ony111:
Thanks Justwise for quick responsed. I just got Employed this month and my Salary is 368.k

Your salary is good, apply after at least 6months of employment
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 10:35pm On Dec 18, 2017
olystic:


The inconsistenceies are because of the following
In November I earned - salary + 13th month
In December I will earn- salary + end year bonus
In January I will earn - salary + year full housing allowance
In February i will earn - salary + balance of December bonus
In march I will earn - salary + performance appraisal add in
In April I will earn - salary + leave allowance

That is ok, apply with 6months bank statement and payslips and give brief explanation about the inconsistency like you did here.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 10:39pm On Dec 18, 2017
talk2tegs:
Hello Justwise,

I have been an ardent follower of your thread and topics on Nairaland.

Kindly help me with the following questions;
1. Do I need to do 2 different applications for myself and my fiance ( Proposed wedding date 1st Quarter 2018 )
2. What documents do I need to put in place for this application in addition to the basic documents ?
3. I am a frequent traveler ( West African countries) and also did a to - fro trip to South Africa, will my travel experience count in this application ?

1. Yes.

2. Read few pages here for an answer to that.

3. Travel experience is an advantage.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by justwise(m): 10:44pm On Dec 18, 2017
Shindaracakez:
Hello Justwise,pls do you know if applications still awaiting decision will be attended to in this period or it will be after the festive period,though my 15 working days falls within this week...
Its possible that they will clear many applications before going on xmas holiday or before new will be going.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by bountykill: 5:52am On Dec 19, 2017
Hello just wise

Please help with a quick assessment of my chances of securing a UK visiting visa. I applied in 2013 and was denied. I was single then and was on a salary of 150k. FF to today, i am married with a kid and a net salary of about 465k but i am working as an outsourced staff for a Chinese company. I worked for 2 years with the first outsourcing firm before it was changed about 6 months ago on the same salary of 465k.

Now my issue is the short period i have worked for the present company even though I am been outsourced to the same firm. Someone suggested i go back to the previous company to get a reference letter to indicate i was working for them before.

Another concern i have is the breakdown of my pay in the payslips, the company intentionally quote a small amount as basic salary so that they can equally pay a reduced amount as pension since the pension rate is a function of the basic salary. My basic salary is 5k with allowance forming the bulk of my net salary. Will this have any implication? Or do i just avoid putting the payslips in my application?

Also i have a friend (British citizen) who relocated to the UK in January of this year. Do i get him to send me an invite or do i apply like i don't know anyone in the up?

Will appreciate you kind responses and suggestions . thanks.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Julify13: 9:53am On Dec 19, 2017
ekpotek:


1. Was there any particular reasons for her over stay? If yes state the reasons and be honest about it. If there was no reason simply apologize.

2. State the correct numbers of days for the visit and support it with documents. In this case, your anti natal visits, hospital bills, expected date of delivery, emotional needs etc to justify her long stay.

3. Enclose the same documents you submitted for her previous visa, and update yours.

4. If you did not submit her bank statement in her previous application and she got the visa, then you do not need to submit any.

Like I said, her application will be assessed based on justifiable reasons for her last over stay.


many thanks smiley
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Julify13: 9:53am On Dec 19, 2017
Ijeshalomo:
You should be sincere with your application since you would be accommodating her, the financial aspect should not be a burden on her. She should provide a statement of account that will take care of her return flight. You can state 3months in her application.


thanks a lot
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Nobody: 10:23am On Dec 19, 2017
Goodmorning house please I need help. my husband and daughter submitted their passport to be stamped on the 30th of November after a successful review. my husband has picked up his own passport since on Friday but there is no collection mail yet for my daughter. it's a Tier 4 dependent visa. please is this normal? two passports submitted together, one is back while the other isn't?

please have anyone being in this condition before? how long does it take for the other to return? we are really worried.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Solatium(m): 12:09pm On Dec 19, 2017
bountykill:
Hello just wise

Please help with a quick assessment of my chances of securing a UK visiting visa. I applied in 2013 and was denied. I was single then and was on a salary of 150k. FF to today, i am married with a kid and a net salary of about 465k but i am working as an outsourced staff for a Chinese company. I worked for 2 years with the first outsourcing firm before it was changed about 6 months ago on the same salary of 465k.

Now my issue is the short period i have worked for the present company even though I am been outsourced to the same firm. Someone suggested i go back to the previous company to get a reference letter to indicate i was working for them before.

Another concern i have is the breakdown of my pay in the payslips, the company intentionally quote a small amount as basic salary so that they can equally pay a reduced amount as pension since the pension rate is a function of the basic salary. My basic salary is 5k with allowance forming the bulk of my net salary. Will this have any implication? Or do i just avoid putting the payslips in my application?

Also i have a friend (British citizen) who relocated to the UK in January of this year. Do i get him to send me an invite or do i apply like i don't know anyone in the up?

Will appreciate you kind responses and suggestions . thanks.

You know the honest answer yourself,you are only seeking a validation of that,I am happy to tell you it won't fly,A basic salary of ₦5,000 and an allowance of ₦460,000.it didn't just jel together
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by bountykill: 1:42pm On Dec 19, 2017
Solatium:


You know the honest answer yourself,you are only seeking a validation of that,I am happy to tell you it won't fly,A basic salary of ₦5,000 and an allowance of ₦460,000.it didn't just jel together

So are you suggesting i leave out the payslips completely? My account statement reflects the monthly salary. I would also appreciate response and suggestions to other concerns raised.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 3:41pm On Dec 19, 2017
bountykill:


So are you suggesting i leave out the payslips completely? My account statement reflects the monthly salary. I would also appreciate response and suggestions to other concerns raised.

Your payslip is very important as it enable the ECO to trace your income within your bank statement and also as evidence of working. All you need to do is to explain why your basic is N5000 and may be get a letter from your human resources to suppoort this baisc pay. The ECO is more interested in seeing consistency in your finanacial in the last 6 months vis a vis your travel budget, and not necessarily the breakdown of you salary.

Knowing someone in the UK who is not a family member can be tricky as you will need to prof the relationship and justify why he need to invite you. If you have enough travel history and cash to spend, I suggest you leave your friend out of this application and book hotel. Having said this, you must disclose your friend as someone you know in the UK, but you will not visit or stay with him.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by sunvick(m): 5:02pm On Dec 19, 2017
Finally!!

My visa was granted. Standard visa
Timeline;

visa submitted......20th of Nov
Biometrics ....... 20th Nov
Recieved by UKVI.......21 Nov
Decision made ........... 7th Dec
Passport collected ......8th Dec

Granted 2yrs visa

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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ijeshalomo(m): 6:49pm On Dec 19, 2017
Kindly submit your statement of account for 6months. You may not need to submit pay slip. Not all organisations give staff payslip. Besides your statement of account would not even state basic salary. It will only show the totality of the salary. Statement of account suffices for financial aspect.

Thanks

ekpotek:


Your payslip is very important as it enable the ECO to trace your income within your bank statement and also as evidence of working. All you need to do is to explain why your basic is N5000 and may be get a letter from your human resources to suppoort this baisc pay. The ECO is more interested in seeing consistency in your finanacial in the last 6 months vis a vis your travel budget, and not necessarily the breakdown of you salary.

Knowing someone in the UK who is not a family member can be tricky as you will need to prof the relationship and justify why he need to invite you. If you have enough travel history and cash to spend, I suggest you leave your friend out of this application and book hotel. Having said this, you must disclose your friend as someone you know in the UK, but you will not visit or stay with him.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by ekpotek: 7:39pm On Dec 19, 2017
Ijeshalomo:
Kindly submit your statement of account for 6months. You may not need to submit pay slip. Not all organisations give staff payslip. Besides your statement of account would not even state basic salary. It will only show the totality of the salary. Statement of account suffices for financial aspect.

Thanks


A 6 month payslips is a mandatory documentation if you’re working for govt or a big private organization. If the organization does not issue payslip, then you need to explain this in a cover letter. Please. Check the UKVI website for more detail.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 3 by Ijeshalomo(m): 7:47pm On Dec 19, 2017
I quite disagree with this. Once you submit a statement of account indicating your salary monthly without discrepancy, then pay slip is not needed. I know about 4 different pple that submitted just statement of account. I am also a witness. My first application and the second application, I never submitted pay slip. I submitted my salary account and explained other cash flow.

Thanks

ekpotek:


A 6 month payslips is a mandatory documentation if you’re working for govt or a big private organization. If the organization does not issue payslip, then you need to explain this in a cover letter. Please. Check the UKVI website for more detail.

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