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I concur. There's nothing "excessive" about Scholes' criticism. Mourinho just needed someone to talk about. He's mentioned Pogba earning more money than a critic due no fault of Pogba's last season in defence of Pogba, he's done it again. Of what need is reminding us that Pogba is richer than Scholes in that defence of Pogba? If Pogba is richer than Scholes, who cares? Many footballers are richer than all the pundits, but the pundits still get to say their minds which might be wrong or right.

Scholes talked about Pogba strolling on the pitch last match which was 100% true. Didn't we point it out here before the match ended? Was Scholes wrong in that accessment of Pogba's performance? Absolutely not. So, Mourinho should not while defending his players, which is good by the way, try to dismiss a constructive criticism.

elampiro:
I see nothing wrong with what Scholes said. Mourinho was actually talking too much about Manchester City. Secondly, Pogba was not the Pogba at Juventus.

Today we saw the Pogba at Juventus after the criticism. So the criticism reminded Pogba how he used to play and hit shots from 25 yards, just as he almost scored one today.

elampiro:
E be like say anybody wey criticize Pogba or Lukaku automatically becomes oversabi. Even when the person is right.

Abeg these guys (Pogba and Lukaku) are players, not gods.

Criticism has brought out the best of Pogba today.

PietroRico:
the criticism didn't remind Pogba. The system changed.
He would have struggled too us we stuck with that disjointed 4 4 2

PietroRico:
Garry Neville has said one or 2 things about what Pogba was not doing right. It didn't get anyone annoyed.

PietroRico:
the criticism didn't remind Pogba. The system changed.
He would have struggled too us we stuck with that disjointed 4 4 2

PietroRico:
Paul Scholes is too caustic. Does he not see Gary Neville?
He can talk about an ill in the squad without unnecessary negativity. Scholes no wan just hear. Ever since he retire, he no dey allow person get peace

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I guess Pogba didn't get annoyed, he raised his game. Mourinho is annoyed because he was told to stop talking about Manchester City. Scholes went on to say Guardiola has worked to build a good team. Scholes probably wanted Mourinho to seat down to work on his team.

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I guess Pogba didn't get annoyed, he raised his game. Mourinho is annoyed because he was told to stop talking about Manchester City. Scholes went on to say Guardiola has worked to build a good team. Scholes probably wanted Mourinho to seat down to work on his team.

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Last season Pogba played this same role in some matches and struggled as well so it's not all down to the system. So while the system helped, Pogba showed resilience and put in an energetic display personally. A coach can change a system and the players still decide not to show up. Pogba deserved credit for actually upping his game.

IFearGod:
Oga, there was nothing outrageous or excessive in what Scholes said. It was a pure constructive criticism which was crystal clear to everybody that Mourinho should be blamed for sudden collapse of Pogba's masterclass. Virtually everybody knows that the defensive and conservative football of the useless coach has wrecked havocs on the team and sucked confidence out of them. Only the plastic fans with blurred vision would see good in what Mourinho has done in the 10 matches. Mourinho is a damn fool for attacking the legend like that. If it was left for Mourinho and some plastic fans, they would have asked the players to go on a defensive tactics against Everton.
One thing is very sure, the useless coach would be shown the door soon. The United Board has seen enough and his reappraisal attacks on the constructive criticisms of our legends has just nailed him to the coffin.

elampiro:
I see nothing wrong with what Scholes said. Mourinho was actually talking too much about Manchester City. Secondly, Pogba was not the Pogba at Juventus.

Today we saw the Pogba at Juventus after the criticism. So the criticism reminded Pogba how he used to play and hit shots from 25 yards, just as he almost scored one today.

PietroRico:
the criticism didn't remind Pogba. The system changed.
He would have struggled too us we stuck with that disjointed 4 4 2

PietroRico:
how would you know?
Even if we agree that Pogba wasn't annoyed.
We all know why Mourinho was talking about city in the way he was.
It is how he always intentionally deflects attention from his squad whenever there is about to be scrutiny.

It is classic Mourinho.

It is something he will almost always do.
It is part of the Mourinho package.
It doesn't mean Jose doesn't know he has to build a squad.
Scholes should know this

PietroRico:
I have always maintained that Pogba wasn't poor last season.
Even in the 1st half.
89m just didn't allow many people to be reasonable.

PietroRico:
Where is the Paul Pogba we saw at Juventus? He was all over the pitch, he was battling, he was tackling, he was sprinting to people, he was scoring goals from 25 yards out.
"He is just strolling through games."

Scholes added:
. "Pogba doesn't look fit. I wonder whether he is training properly.
"He does not look like a player who will win you games and that is what you pay £90m for.
"No-one in England should be getting near him, but he is being asked to do a role he is not comfortable in.

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We'll have to agree to disagree on that then coz we share different views on that issue.


But just note that, it's natural that Neymar's display should be "better" or at least "there will be a higher level of expectation" from him than with a wing-forawrd that cost £10m. £200m is enough money to expect a certain kind of performance from Neymar.

There's a reason people are more on Hazard's case but not on Willian who's considered a waste. Your reputation will determine the kind of expectation you'll get.

patrickmuf:
Away from the system, you saw Pogba play like he did at Juventus, long range shots, purposeful take on, quick passes etc...You can say it's down to the system but the timing of the performance seems like an effect of Scholes criticism.

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He'd find a better way to "deflect attention from his squad". He's not the only coach under criticism. Klopp and Conte have had their fair share of criticism, but they used another approach to handle it.

The "classic Mourinho" approach is bringing more haters for us. Due to his excessive complaints United have become the butt of jokes via memes on various social media.

It's this "classic Mourinho" approach that made Conte fall out with him. It's why Conte doesn't even want to shake him. He talks about other clubs excessively. Did you read his "big club small club" comments about Chelsea, Arsenal and Co? Was that really necessary? He'd have found another way to pass his message. Chelsea fans loved him to death before, his loose mouth has cost him that reverence.

I've talked about a BBC pundit called Garth Crooks who used to moan about Pogba's hair last season and people backed him because Pogba wasn't playing well. This season he tried it and got no supporter because Pogba had started playing well. So even if Mourinho was complaining about other clubs but his team kept producing good results, nobody will bat an eyelid. But in a scenario where your team is struggling, and instead of focusing on how to arrest the slump you're busy talking of Man City, Pep, Chelshit, Assanal and Klopp, don't expect any form of sympathy coz people will see you as a nagging wife even if you're right.

PietroRico:
Where is the Paul Pogba we saw at Juventus? He was all over the pitch, he was battling, he was tackling, he was sprinting to people, he was scoring goals from 25 yards out.
"He is just strolling through games."

Scholes added:
. "Pogba doesn't look fit. I wonder whether he is training properly.
"He does not look like a player who will win you games and that is what you pay £90m for.

"No-one in England should be getting near him, but he is being asked to do a role he is not comfortable in.

PietroRico:
the classic approach has won him a 25 trophies.
What is a klopp?

Nihilist:
Essentially Jose is just saying that Gerrard > Scholes.

Damn, i love the smell of disparaged manyoo legends in the morning.

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With the way Pogba and Matic had "snail-like" performance against Southampton, Scholes was doubting his fitness because he wasn't covering much ground which a player that's fit like Pogba should try and do. Mentioning the £90m may be going too far considering how Pogba has improved earlier this season but Scholes still said this below.