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Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by sirabbey(m): 10:14pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: Aside from the fact that you have not been able to substantiate your points with scriptural references as expected, you also indulge in passing judgement without evidence. Pray tell me how do you know that the OP is not spiritual or his spiritual level is low as you claimed ![]() Finally on the issue at stake, i think you are wrong. Are you afraid that if the wife tell his husband and he refused, God is unable to convince him to see reason and agree, if truly it is an instruction from God as you claimed? God is never an author of confusion, remember when there was issue of pre-marital pregnancy between Mary and Joseph, God the author of the whole set-up had to intervene and convince Joseph when he develop cold feet and was going to put Mary his fiance away Matt 1: 18-25 18 This is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But before the marriage took place, while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit. 19 Joseph, her fiancé, was a good man and did not want to disgrace her publicly, so he decided to break the engagement quietly. 20 As he considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream. “Joseph, son of David,” the angel said, “do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. For the child within her was conceived by the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” 22 All of this occurred to fulfill the Lord’s message through his prophet: 23 “Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means ‘God is with us.’” 24 When Joseph woke up, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded and took Mary as his wife. 25 But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus Enough said! 2 Likes |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Pierohandsome: 10:15pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
toptop:why are most people finding it hard to read well? Most of u quoting me are jst talking abt vow and vow. According to that post what she did was not in anyway a vow but an obedience to divine instruction. Vow is different frm divine instruction. God gave her the job not the husband and can take it back. It is unfortunate to see christians putting God second in their lives and expect God to bless them, u dnt consult on what u knw u dnt have any option than to either obey or disobey.. why must God give a woman an instruction and people are saying she should consult the husband before she can obey . Very unfortunate decision. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by KAYD007(m): 10:18pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
kowalsky: You are calling a man who said he will never divorce his wife even if he catches her cheating on him with another man a true gentleman? What a pity! |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by toptop: 10:20pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
oruma19: Don't mind these people that use secular reason on spiritual issues. Just look at this: 2 Kings 4:8-37 English Standard Version (ESV) Elisha and the Shunammite Woman One day Elisha went on to Shunem, where a wealthy woman lived, who urged him to eat some food. So whenever he passed that way, he would turn in there to eat food. And she said to her husband, “Behold now, I know that this is a holy man of God who is continually passing our way. Let us make a small room on the roof with walls and put there for him a bed, a table, a chair, and a lamp, so that whenever he comes to us, he can go in there.” The Shunammite woman seemed her husband's consent first. 1 Like |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
lawman88: lawman88: lawman88: i suspect there is more to your story than meets the eye. i wish you luck. women become much more religious as they grow older. if your wife is like this at this stage in your marriage, i am afraid of what she will be doing four years down the line. plenty of night vigil , dashing out of property, special prayers on your kids heads etal without telling you before hand, it is also gross irresponsibility on her part to give her entire salary away for any reason without consulting you.if you were to do the same thing, i'm sure your wife would not find it funny at all. already, you are being forced to compensate for her actions by giving her money to run around. s indirectly, it is you who is giving her reverend money. and as for the reverend, who took the money without apparently asking any questions at all . . . ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by wirinet(m): 10:28pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
rossyc: Are you sure you are Catholic? There is nothing like the doctrine of sowing of seed in catholism, that is a pentecostal creation. The only giving in catholism is general offerings or offerings for specific purposes, ie, building projects, offerings for the poor, harvest, etc. Parishioners are allowed to give reverend fathers gifts like food, drinks and other material items, but giving tithes, seed offerings, money to the Reverend fathers personally is not encouraged in the Catholic Church What will the father do with your money? Reverend fathers are paid salary, a house, a cook, a house help and sometimes a car with a driver. The Reverend Fathers will not wear armani suits, will not buy a jet plane, will not build a mansion for himself and definitely does not have wife and kids to cater for. If the lady gave the money to the church, That would be understandable ( but still wrong since she did not inform her husband ), but to give money personally to a reverend father for blessing is not Catholic doctrine. 3 Likes |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by KAYD007(m): 10:29pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome:u Are you projecting God as an entity that only helps the beings whom he created in his own image only when they sow a seed of sacrifice to him? 2 Likes
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Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Donwyz(m): 10:33pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
am a catholic and sowing of seed aside tithing is a personal and willful decision which is not dictated by doctrine........Try talking to ur wife about this issue......if the spirit really asked her to do this then maybe she should have told u before giving out the money........NOTE! no spirit from God will want to bring a disagreement between a man and his wife 1 Like |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by toptop: 10:33pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: Learn to use the scriptures to make your point. Show me a married woman in the bible whom God gave instruction and she went ahead to do it without informing the husband first. If God actually gave her instruction, then he will also give her the grace to convince her husband. By the way, did God tell her in the instruction not to carry her husband along ![]() God values the marriage so much because He instituted it. People have abused divine revelations today. Most people cover their emotional soft spots by claiming it is God's instruction. Women are prone to this weakness. The barometer for measuring every divine instruction is the Bible. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by DreamSonInlaw(m): 10:36pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Which one is...is that how the doctrine is? No be you tiok say she say na spirit tell her to do so? |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Pierohandsome: 10:36pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
sirabbey:u are the one making judgement out of context. I asked a question abt hw sure are u the man is as spiritual as Manoah and u say i am slandering people. And i didnt quote u scriptures to buttress my fact simply because times have changed and no relevant scripture that reflects this scenerio. And the scrptures u are quoting are not related to the issue at hand. Mathew 6:33 is and mathew 16:25 is enough to explain my point. In kingdom stewardship there is no reservation whn serving God, whether ur marriage ,or ur job etc should not place any limit whn it come to obedience in the kingdom. As for Mathew 1:18 u quoted, why didnt mary tell Joseph whn the angel first appeared to her and told her abt how the birth of Jesus wil come in Luke 1:35? Do u think Joseph would have contemplated putting her away if Mary had told him initially whn the angel first appeared? Ok she wasnt submissive too abi? Why didnt the angel appear to the man and tell him hw God instructed the wife to sow that seed that he has to come to Nairaland to seek advice? If the man's opinion counted God would have appeared to him and tell him to instruct the wife to sow the seed because he is the head. So if the man tells her to stop going to church she should obey because he is the head abi? Whn it comes to service to God in christianity everyone is standing per head before God . |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by majormofor(m): 10:38pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
I av only one question!!!!Was it You(op) dat found out she gave d salary out or she told u after doing it (not dat u asked for it). ![]() |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by wirinet(m): 10:39pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: In is unfortunate that some people have been brainwashed into sustaining the avarice and vices of their pastors. Pastors are not God, so putting your husband before your pastor is not putting God second in your life. In life, your husband or wife is more important than your pastor. God cannot give such instruction without the knowledge of the husband, because her money does not belong to her but to both of them. I know most people saying rubbish here are too young or too I mature to get married, but once you are married your money or property (or even your body) does not belong to you alone but to both of you, whether you are the husband or the wife. That is why when you divorce the properties will be shared between the two of you. 2 Likes |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Pierohandsome: 10:48pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
toptop:i dnt need to quote u scriptures to convince u, we are not in a law court. And ur statement here is out of point. Whether she acted in emotion or not is nobody's business, i made my point based on the post that states it out of divine instruction. As for women in the bible, why didnt mary tell Joseph abt the pregnancy of Jesus whn the Angel Gabriel appear to her in luke 1 :35 |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by eminent007(m): 10:50pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: Sorry but I have to say dis, ur stupidity is off d chart. Wen u marry, there's no I or Me but Us. How can u tell a man he is a third party to his wife? As a wife, after GOD, next up is ur husband not ur pastor, prophet, bishop, evangelist, apostle nor even ur G.O. Pls get that and get understanding. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Joemetry(m): 10:50pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
lawman88: Well I can't tell all because I can sense some hidden facts in your story. Bringing your marriage to nairaland says it all, be wise many people here are designed to frustrate you with I'll opinions, if you can't trash your issues at home what good is our opinion? Why blame the church for your wife's decision? That's not even fair unless you are cunningly trying to sabotage the church! I mean how do you expect the priest to reject a gift from someone that he didn't coerce her to bring? Okay you expect the priest to discern that the gift would have solved your problems even when your wife couldn't do that? Even in the holy books many gift their valuable possessions and get bountifully blessed this might just be a similar case. Your wife was never forced to give to the Rev. It was voluntarily, I know of many RCCG pastors that compel their followers to sow seed. In my year one in the varsity I followed my friend to one of your fellowships in campus and was compelled to sow a seed of 1k. Its not about doctrine here. I hope you come back to nairaland to let us know in the nearest future if you still feel your wife's decision was wrong. 1 Like |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Pierohandsome: 10:55pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
wirinet:Ok ,why didnt Abraham tell Sarah whn he wanted to offer Isaac? Sarah wil kill him over night if he dared by telling her. Why didnt God appear to the man and tell him to instruct his wife to sow the seed than appearing to the woman? So if the man asks the wife to stop going to church she should obey because he is the head? Nigerian men with this their domineering attitude is something else. God owns all of them, both the man, the wife, and the salary. He can request it anytime and u must obey whether u agree or not |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by eminent007(m): 10:56pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: You again ![]() Let me instruct u again. After d angel told Mary, he has to go and inform Joseph if not, yawa go happen. u av anoda example? |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Pierohandsome: 11:05pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
eminent007:hahahaha! U said after God is the husband. And the same God who is number 1 gave instruction and u say she should consult the number 2 man which is her husband b4 she obeys. Can u see hw spiritually confuse u are. Most Nigerians are going to church but God is not number 1 in their lives. So if the man stops her frm going to church she should obey because they are one abi. Whn the wife commits sin the husband wil go to hell because they are one and vice -versa. It is on the judgement day all of u quoting 'the husband is the head theory ,and both of them are one theory' will knw that life b4 God is per head |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by wirinet(m): 11:12pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: Leave Abraham story, such story is not practical today. If any modern day Abraham does as much as raise a knife against any kid, even his own and boasts about it, he will end in jail for attempted murder, weather God's commandment or not. What do you mean by domineering attitude? A wife gives her whole month's salary to a pastor (December one at that), how will she transport her self to work? How will she eat at lunch time? How will she meet up with her obligations? Oh I forgot, she has a domineering man to depend on. So because God owns us and can request anything from us, we should take the life of our children, our spouses or complete strangers when God asks for it. I know another set of God's worshippers that reason like that. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by olamariamjonez(m): 11:27pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
No problem, she will collect another one in January. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by bloodofthelamb(m): 11:32pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
AnodaIT: I love this post with all my heart. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
lawman88: RCCGs, Catholics and all other sects of Christianity are false religions |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Sexyolori(f): 11:37pm On Jan 02, 2018 |
lawman88:why must she stop her job to go 4 postgraduate studies?cnt she do parttime?can u singlehandedly shoulder the financial responsibility of the family for the next few years WITHOUT COMPLAINING especially since a bby will soon arrive? |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by eminent007(m): 12:00am On Jan 03, 2018 |
Pierohandsome: And wen did God give d instruction? Through a man only seeking to enrich his own pocket? I laff u in swahili |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Nobody: 12:07am On Jan 03, 2018 |
Espada10: Aww, thanks. Yeah I have my own buisness. Been on it for the past 10 and half years. All thanks to Baba God. ![]() |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by delishpot: 12:13am On Jan 03, 2018 |
alexialin: Next time, arrest her. But o, do people sow seed with other people's money? I have NEVER read of a person in the Bible who used a creditors money to sow seed Sha. Sorry o, Make She Sha keep her promise o. @ OP, You can go back and ask for the money. In the Bible, God allows men to revoke any oats or promises made by their wives without their consent. Men are free and permitted to fix any stupid bug the wife has in her head. He should go and collect the money if he needs it. It is not against the law. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by bionixs: 12:16am On Jan 03, 2018 |
ubunja:dem swear for you? did you read pastor or rev.father? |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Sexyolori(f): 12:19am On Jan 03, 2018 |
@op,ur wife is still trying 2 get used to d fact dt d job of decision making doesnt rest on her alone anymore.pls forgive her,adjusting to married life isn't easy.talk to her,let her know u appreciate her dedication & commitment to d Lord but she should let u know next time as u are now one and should communicate about everything. |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by tonytony208(m): 12:35am On Jan 03, 2018 |
lawman88: Then I think you guys need to communicate as much as you pray |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by ArabaNana(f): 12:38am On Jan 03, 2018 |
Africans and religion!! The money will just benefit the pastors pocket. Too much crookedness in these pastors of today. Nonsense! Both of you should communicate, especially when finances and family planing are concerned. Even if it'sher own money, she should also be wise. Am glad there are other religions who do not have such doctrines/believe that this is correct! |
Re: My Wife Gave Her December Salary As Seed To Rev. Father Without My Knowledge by Nobody: 12:41am On Jan 03, 2018 |
delishpot: At the bolded, me sef I taya o. Have never heard of such before o. Until she said it with her own mouth. I looked at her with shock and disbelief. I was like what? ![]() She said: I had to sow my salary, I was meant to pay u to my Pastor. But don't worry February I will pay it back. There and then ehn? I just hated the Pastor, then the lady? I gave her a piece of mind. She was like don't worry, I will pay it back. If not that she's a matured lady. I don't know what I would have done that day. I had to swallow my fury and wait till February. Can u imagine? Pastor wey get more than enough, dey follow me struggle what's been owed to me. ![]() Anyways God dey. |
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