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Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by AHCB: 8:04am On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:can't you also see the first comment you quoted from me was saying the same thing? A blind man who calls another man blind is what? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:12am On Jan 15, 2018 |
damosky12: I don't take in all what freeze says... I filter all that comes my way. Every message that is not in line with the grace i have in CHRIST JESUS, i always trash it. Unfortunately, most of our so called "GO" preach such messages 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by OkCornel(m): 9:28am On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror: Then you are a follower of Jesus... Unlike the hypocritical christian who confesses Jesus is Lord of the life and God raised them from the dead...yet these Christians steal whenever they have the chance to, insult one another online when no one provoked them, and they say "God's grace" is sufficient for them. Even the demons know who Jesus is...but that knowledge has not helped them into heaven either... As for me...I deal with realities, unquestionable facts and insights...only religion+fanaticism would encourage someone to suspend their brain and rely on blind faith 24 hours a day...even when the TRUTH stares them in the face! FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD...BELIEFS WITHOUT ACTIONS NA CRAP! By the way...if you're following Jesus and truly obey his teachings; then that of other enlightened souls sent to this realm of existence...you already know the TRUTH...and you are on your way to understanding who the Eternal Creator truly is... Forget all the religious crap and face the TRUTH jare... |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by hopefulLandlord: 10:24am On Jan 15, 2018 |
I agree with OP |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by MuttleyLaff: 11:22am On Jan 15, 2018 |
festwiz:Thank you, you the mayne. bloodofthelamb:That's exactly how we ought to roll. Munch on the straw but spit out the stick |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Fvcknames: 11:52am On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror: True that |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Fvcknames: 11:53am On Jan 15, 2018 |
1Sharon: Yeah, very very likely |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Seun(m): 11:56am On Jan 15, 2018 |
urahara:Religious faith is a choice. You choose to believe something in spite of the lack of evidence. You immerse yourself in experiences that would strengthen your faith e.g Going to church, reading only religious books, listening to only religious songs, making friends with only Christians. You avoid situations that might weaken your faith such as talking to atheists, studying evolution and the Big Bang theory, reading articles that criticize ‘men of God’, etc. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by urahara(m): 11:57am On Jan 15, 2018 |
Seun: This is very true |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Deathlezz: 1:00pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:you keep limiting Christianity to the scope of your dishonest and fraudulent Christian life where you lied and was caught 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 1:16pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Deathlezz:I am ignorant of the fake christian life i lived, can you enlighten me please? Also show me the lies i told and how i was caught. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 1:17pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Seun:True. Why i say only by dishonesty or delibrate ignorace can one remain a christian or muslim amongst other religions |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Deathlezz: 1:56pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:were you not the infamous atheist who gave a fictitious account of his SU Christian crusade as an undergraduate and no one here could collaborate your story, including those who attended same school you claimed to have gone ? It’s a dead issue but I want you to not paint Christianity dark because you were caught to be a fraudulent atheist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 2:05pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Deathlezz:You must be a bat or blinder than a mole. You intentionally chose to ignore the comments of those who knew me and claim my story is cooked up. Lol. Did i not name people and my fellowship? Abi the fellowship does not exist anymore? Why did no one from the fellowship ASF refuse to comment on the thread. Wise up and stop fooling yourself |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Deathlezz: 2:12pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Seun:very funny how your concept of religion is Christianity!!! Why use Christianity as a wholistic example of religiosity? What happened to Islam and even traditional African belief systems. No wonder you have a dedicated thread and procedure for Islam where posters have to swear allegiance before being granted access to comment. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Deathlezz: 2:20pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:please don’t flip the lid of your short mental stability and emotional porosity. You were caught to be a base liar, a fraud and a desperate atheist loookimg for quick recognition. All the account you gave were proved to be lies!! In the end you were no better than the fake pastors Freeze has been bursting. I wonder more why you’ll get so angry like a bruised brute over simple established truth. The other shams who acknowledged your tall tales and lies were your accomplices and alternates who wanted to save your face marked by the naked truth. Thank you, Mr. Blurred-Mirror. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Rainmaker69(m): 2:45pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
OP While I agree with your conclusions, I strongly disagree with the means by which you arrive at that conclusion. The man picked an issue that had become very sensitive because of the economic situation. The tithe debate is not new, check this Section History for archives on heavy theological arguments for and against tithes. As it stands, we are at a place where we need to question all our assumptions so we can bury practices that have no biblical origin. The problem with the church goes beyond tithes, offering and first fruits. We need to move to discussing relationship with God. If these pastors had come out to admit the truth, Freeze would not have received more attention than he deserved. Let's face it, the leadership of our 'big' churches is flawed. This entire episode has revealed that many are childish and immature. No christian should allow a revolution to divide, rather than unify the church. That's where this sheeple thing goes off the rails. In that regard, I agree that people may be misled into division, strife and error. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 3:01pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Deathlezz:Lol!!! Wake up and smell the coffee. This is not dream land. You cant wish or imagine the Truth away |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 3:02pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Rainmaker69: Good contribution But this should be an opportunity to ask some questions about your beliefs as a christian dont you think? |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Deathlezz: 3:08pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:just go and sin no more. Happy atheist sojourn!!! Experience the happiness in darkness. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Rainmaker69(m): 3:43pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror: I totally agree with you that we need to ask hard questions about how we practice our Christianity. Some things are out of bounds, we shouldn't question the fundamentals. The start point should be the foundation of salvation in Jesus. We need to question why we do some things. Why do we sing certain songs? Why don't we subject all sermons to further scrutiny? Why are our pastors tin gods? Why are gospel ministers leaving the church in droves? How are we treating the poor, the widows, strangers and orphans? What is the source of the donations and huge contributions made to our churches? What is the full story behind the juicy testimonies we celebrate every Sunday? Why don't we organize healing crusades in hospital wards? I ask these questions because I want to be a better christian. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by HardMirror(m): 5:20pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Rainmaker69:We cannot excuse the foundamentals of christianity from our scrutiny. What about muslims, traditional worshippers and co, how do u want them to see the "light" of christ and lies of their own religion if they dont question the foundation s of their religion? You would be happy if a sango worshipper claims he has discovered that sango worship is wrong or cant save because he has found it is based on lies. Yet you fail to realize you could be on a wrong path because u refuse to querry ur own religion |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by damosky12(m): 8:41pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
Rainmaker69: Your questions all have answers. You have only not bothered to ask. However, that you haven't asked certain questions as a Christian doesn't mean others haven't asked. Besides, a more accurate and contextual study of the scriptures help you know what are the pros and cons of the ideal Christian life. Its just sad that too many are not conversant with the message of the Bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by damosky12(m): 9:30pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: Matthew 24:14 [14]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Mark 16:15 [15]And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Freeze said "We have NOTHING to offer the muslims in Dubai or the Buddhists in China! All we want is their money! What blessings can a Nigerian Christian ever preach about to ANYONE? Where are the blessings? where?" Clearly, any intelligent human being can see how this subtly counters Jesus' instruction to preach the gospel round the world. In fact, Freeze makes his opinion clear, "what blessing can a Nigerian Christian (including himself?) preach about to anyone? This thought really isn't about any " hypocrisy in evangelism". I think an ideal Christian thinks about how to take any opportunity to preach Christ to MUSLIMS and BUDDHISTS save them from spiritual death according to Christ's instructions. Alas! Freeze thinks ANY NIGERIAN CHRISTIAN shouldn't think about preaching at all because "all we want is their money". How is this not antichristian? Acts 4:12 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby* we must be saved. Jesus said, at the end of His sojourn on earth. Mark 16: 15-16 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Then Freeze says a Muslim who loves God and his neighbor won't need Jesus Christ to make heaven. In essence, he says a man doesn't have to receive or believe the gospel of Jesus Christ but just try " love God and his neighbor". How Christian are these utterances?
He sees things that needs to be changed indeed. One of those things is Christianity. He really wants to alter it. How would he get the audience of those he seeks to influence if not to camouflage as part of them?
Learn to read in context. James 1:26-27 King James Version (KJV) If ANY MAN AMONG YOU seem to be religious , and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world Christians are not taught to practice religion. That place you quoted was supposed to be a sharp "uppercut" against those who are keen on ceremonial practices without necessarily being pious. We are not told to practice that "pure religion". It was to correct that hypocritically religious guy. Selah. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by EarthXmetahuman: 9:38pm On Jan 15, 2018 |
HardMirror:more like dubious atheist. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by MuttleyLaff: 2:59am On Jan 16, 2018 |
damosky12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlSPSK4stw "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. - Matthew 23:15 The word hypocrite ultimately came into English from the Greek word hypokrites, which means "an actor" or "a stage player" The less than 60 seconds long video really is about "Freeze ridiculing the hypocrisy of evangelism that has become a shameless charade" Do you recognise the voice of who is speaking in Matthew 23:15 above? Observe that, Matthew 23 is the only place in the bible, where & when Jesus ever mentioned tithing The same Matthew chapter 23, with its 7 woe curses in it, is where He warned against hypocrisy You can't just explain a joke. Either it isn't funny or the audience just totally missed the punchline You just totally missed the "punchline" damosky12:What you pay attention to, permits me, to tell you who you are You are still a bit wet behind the ears and that's why you have a real vulgarity in the way you post God is in the detail. Pay attention to detail For example, you used and said antichristian, but I sidestepped antichristian, used antiChrist and said: "I am yet to hear Freeze utter an antiChrist remark. Yet to see him suggest an antiChrist move" Have you heard Freeze make an antiChrist remark? Repeat it here then but if you cant list it, then please hold your peace. Dont be surprised to know some MUSLIMS and BUDDHISTS will be found in the kingdom whilst Christians will be AWOL The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism. damosky12:SMH, unconscious bias damosky12:Truth crushed to earth is truth still and like a seed will rise again Freeze, has just woken up to a few "elephant in the room" topics, that so many posters from the dawn of the day and over the years, in past on Religion section of Nairaland, have extensively written about and discussed Anyone that consciously or unconsciously does any or all that Jesus taught, preached and/or commanded as entry criteria into the Kingdom will enter it damosky12:Do you have a mirror? damosky12:"Christians are not taught to practice religion", did you say? Look up the meaning of compassion in the dictionary James 1:27 provides useful and interesting information on the type of religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless yet you my dear brother, thump your chest, saying "I know I don't have a religion" |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by Rainmaker69(m): 3:18am On Jan 16, 2018 |
damosky12: You should read my initial post for a more accurate context. This post is a reply to a comment on another post. Every time you go for a medical check up the Doctor asks a basic set of questions and does certain basic tests: body temperature, weight, blood pressure, heart rate and so on. It would be foolish to presume that having completed a physical examination once, you would not need to conduct another physical again- because the questions have been asked and answered. Religious practices develop over time and often become a body of laws outside the tenets of the bible. That's why it is important to conduct a self-analysis every now and then. This is both a collective and an individual responsibility. I was only giving an example with the questions. Moreover, these are issues that need to be examined on a periodic basis. That's why its a self-analysis. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by awesomeJ(m): 10:33am On Jan 16, 2018 |
Seun:And since I've been following up your atheistic posts, how much weakening would you say it has brought to my faith? I tell you it's been no more than what the impact of a raw egg would be on a building column cast with 20mm rods. Big Bang, the very imagination of the slimmest chance of a possibility of that is to me the height of foolishness and human degradation. What is the evidence that there was a bang, where are your clips of when the bang happened, or why can't life be produced in the labs purely from another bang? if you think two elements in their random combination started it all, why can't you bring those two elements together again to create even the simplest life form. I think a man's mind would either need to be clouded by the devil, or lose a huge portion of its sanity, before it can even consider, let alone believe such silly opinion. And as for your quest for evidence of God's existence, one way to start making a headway is to revisit your fundamental ideologies on whom you think God is. He is a spirit being, and so, you cannot see Him by your physical means-satellite telescopes and all. Should He even decide to appear in physical form, you literally cannot behold His appearance and survive. You don't have to believe that now, while on earth, but you will surely more than believe it when you leave. Now an ignoramus who thinks he knows all about waves can start saying something like when waves are produced in a plucked string we see it, and for ripples on water, we see them, but since we cannot see radio waves, then they surely don't exist. He may makes sense to fools like himself, but that's not to say he is right. The evidence of the existence of radio waves-which are not visible to the human eye- is in the works they perform on our transistor radio sets, TVs, mobile phones and all. So it is with God, if you pay close sensible attention to the happenings around you, it won't be difficult to see the outstanding and undeniable works of God-in people's lives and in our environment- which prove his existence well beyond every reasonable doubt. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by ScienceWatch: 3:47pm On Jan 16, 2018 |
OkCornel:And Atheists worship one god called NO-god. They have many conflicting teachings and sects like Agnostic and others. Yet they are confused and hate themselves bitterly. Atheists thrive on fictional stories of Dark MAtter and Black Holes while millions suffer on this planet. Their solution to humanities suffering is to introduce distractions of Animal Sex, Anal Sex, Child Sex, Porn, child Prostitution and much much more. I will rather chose any religion than choose Atheism. 1 Like |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by OkCornel(m): 3:53pm On Jan 16, 2018 |
ScienceWatch: Very true...but then, I pray for them...rather than argue with or condemn them. I even learnt something (accidentally though) from one of them...and it gave me more insight on the Eternal Creator. Going by logic...every new born baby is an atheist...as they grow in life...they eventually find God. Atheism was my first step (baby step) to enlightenment. Now I have a more fulfilling relationship with the Eternal Creator more than all the years I spent in religion... I'd rather try to understand their pains and thought process...like myself, they are also on a journey to the TRUTH, and I pray they get there too. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by ScienceWatch: 3:55pm On Jan 16, 2018 |
Deathlezz:He is indeed a wannabe Atheist. LAst time I heard he was unregistered and not paying his monthly Tithes/fees to his master Richard Dawkins. |
Re: Daddy Freeze Would Certainly End An Athiest Or Agnostic. Hardmirror's Opinion by ScienceWatch: 4:07pm On Jan 16, 2018 |
OkCornel:Thank you OKCornel. You are indeed a truly enlightened one. It is very important to remember that all religions are critical to the spiritual advancement of mankind. Religions are at its core simply places where one goes for spiritual enlightenment. The problems of religions are not on the shoulders of its adherents, but on its leaders. Most leaders of religions are fake and dont have spiritual power to demonstrate their doctrines and scripture. Even on the Dark side, those leaders, Voodoo Priests must demonstrate the powers of their doctrines. |
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