So it would be Poland, Serbia, England, Czech republic, DRC and then Chile/Morocco?

Is that it?

tbaba1234:
Just listened to Pinnick's speech at the unveiling.

There is possibly a last friendly game against Chile or Morocco before the first WC game.

We will be camped in Austria.

TheSuperNerd:
I know where he stands. I know he is for the greater good of the Super Eagles and all our players. But I was simply addressing his talk on tribalism being the reason for Happiness and positive reviews over Nacho's good show yesterday. Simple.

And I repeat, no one laughed at Kayode. Only one moniker gave him a mention and that is obviously because of Egbon Forgiveness who has been hyping Kayode and rubbishing Nacho. Realpoacher only used the psychological tool of defence to counter all earlier castigation attempts at Nacho using Kayode as his comparison. So no one laughed.... But Nacho have been laughed at here so many times.

My man with your first paragraph your got me wronged.I was referring to two monikers who mentioned forgiveness and Kayode to applaud Iheanacho.

Nacho is a top rated youngster and ahead of Kayode in any ramifications for now,so better to pass the message without hurting anyone and let have great discussion.

Mind you if not for Nacho do you think i w sit down and be watching Leicester vs Fleetwood.In the first leg i sat glued to see Nacho in action but needed to wait till 80 mjns before he has was introduced.I came down here to show my concerns toward the young man career.

I was in UAE in 2013 when Golden eaglet won WC,i did not miss any Nigeria matches cos of my boy Awoniyi who i knew back in Nigeria but my love for Kelechi Iheanacho started in UAE and still remain till today but i will not be biased especially towards comments that could disrupt this beautiful thread.

tbaba1234:


Pinnick said, it is one of the most beautiful ever designed for Nigeria.

They should just remember we are not going for a fashion parade.

Icon4s:


They should just remember we are not going for a fashion parade.

Kai oga icon4s no be we want better kits,do not worry we are having a great performance at WC.

safarigirl:
NFF, your mates released official World Cup jersey since last year, unadey wait make February reach before you release your own.

The Jersey better be beautiful o. Make I start dey arrange money for one corner

So far,its only Adidas and Puma sponsored countries whose world cup jersey are out.

TheSuperNerd:
So it would be Poland, Serbia, England, Czech republic, DRC and then Chile/Morocco?

Is that it?

Pinnick says that the Chile/Morocco game is still subject to approval by the coach.

He talked about getting coaches to work with players at their clubs (something they are already doing) and boosting the technical crew with other staff like analysts, nutritionists etc.

Meanwhile, The Walcott has passed his medicals at Everton.. and with Sanchez and Ozil future in doubt this January, our boy is gonna see more playing time at arsenal..






Hopefully,we will see less criticism on him...

Danielnino00:
Meanwhile, The Walcott has passed his medicals at Everton.. and with Sanchez and Ozil future in doubt this January, our boy is gonna see more playing time at arsenal..


Hopefully,we will see less criticism on him...

Iwobi will play regardless.

safarigirl:
NFF, your mates released official World Cup jersey since last year, unadey wait make February reach before you release your own.

The Jersey better be beautiful o. Make I start dey arrange money for one corner

yes oh, e better make sense or else ....

komekn:


Encouragement itself is not a bad thing. But too much encouragement, in other words praise singing, without candid straight forward advice and critical appraisal, will potentially cripple any upward progression for a player.

What you have described in the bold is the creation of a fools paradise.

From failure succes is created, the ability to recognise your failings will result in Success.

My view is that your proposition is nonsensical and devoid of substance.

If any man thinks he is wise let him become a fool for the wisdom of men is foolishness to God.

Your supposed wisdom that criticism is good is foolishness to me. And I can prove my word a thousand times that encouragement is a million times more beneficial than criticism.

I said encourage but your mind interpreted it as spoil, condone, pet. Naaa. Encouragement is never too much. Even your Bible in the book of Hebrews 3:13 says:But encourage one another every day, while it is called today...
Again In Hebrews 10:25 it says:but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching...

komekn says too much is not good. Bible says to encourage one another daily, all the more. Omo, make I follow Bible not komekn.

Seems you don't understand what encouragement means but let me illustrate what I mean by encouragement : Iheanacho, my boy, you have not been scoring goals anymore or playing well. Your body language shows nonchalance. What's the problem, why, what's happening (encouragement probes but criticism takes everything for granted because it is only concerned with results) I hope you know alot of people are looking up to you. I know you have it in you. Please work hard, work very hard and prove yourself to yourself, to your loved ones, to your nation.
This is the sort of thing good fathers and loving mothers do. But the foolish ones think they can criticize their children into success. I just dey laugh at their mumuness.

But unlike encouragement, criticism says Iheanacho you are not good, you are no good, you are no good, when he scores criticism says ohhh it's a weak team, when he scores against a strong team criticism twist and says ohh it was luck, when he scored one criticism says why did he not score two, ohhhhhh this, ohhhh that. Such criticism is a fraud. There's nothing more sneakily pernicious, more deadly than this kind of withering criticism.

I wanted to pose a test right here on this thread to illustrate human nature because we sometimes find it ever so easy to criticize Nacho because somehow he is an abstraction to us. We forget his humanity. I wanted to pose this simple test: if you know that in your personal life you do well when you are criticized, in fact you love being criticized click like, if you know you do well when you are encouraged then click share. But I refrained because it would have looked petty.

It's not for nothing that some shout hater, hatred here to some monikers in the face of their vitriolic, soul destroying criticisms. Criticism especially habitual criticism is really low grade hatred. If you love someone you will encourage them, you encourage them hard. Tough love. Have you seen Morgan Freeman's 'Lean on. Me'? Go and watch it if you have not so that you will understand what I mean by encouragement.

I repeat even flowers and plants generally (and it's documented) blossom and become more fruitful when they are encouraged and wilt or die when they pick up negative vibes for example if the flowers are being watered by an unhappy critical person.

(forgive me forumites for making my point using religious text) You are a Christian but you seem not to understand the power of the word. You seem not to understand what faith means, it seems you don't understand what it means when your Bible says your God calls the things that are not as though there were, you don't understand it when the Bible says God calls light out of darkness. He doesn't do it by saying there's darkness(failure), there's darkness (failure) there's darkness (failure) No ooooooo. He looks at darkness and sees light and( in true metaphysical sense it's not even the darkness he looks at but himself) and says I see light(success) I see light (success) I see light(success) and then he lets out: let they be light and surely light comes.

But when you see Iheanacho all you harp on is his failure. Even more shockingly in the face of his little success you still remind him of his failure and comfort yourself by saying he needs to be consistent, he isn't convincing yet. You don't know that by talking about failure continously you increase its vibration and perpetuate it, meanwhile you keep getting frustrated because it's success you want but failure is what you get because you are violating the law of the seed, the law of vibration, the law of the universe. I remember when I was a child, one time my father was always criticising me that I breaking the plates while washing them. Omo, na so I continue to break plates dey go ooo even though I tried hard not to but for where. He called me plate breaker and plate breaker I became. As an adult I now understand the psychology behind it: we a word controlled beings. He sewed the seed of breaking plates in my heart and because every seed produces after its kind, it produced an harvest of plate breaking. I tell you encourage, don't criticize but you say I am talking foolishness.

At the beginning of his ministry Jesus looked at Simon (Simon means Reed, a plant that waffles in the wave of the waters) in all his weakness, his waverings and inconsistencies and saw beyond those flaws. That's why he said you are Simon (weak) son of Jonah BUT you shall be called PETER (rock). But then Peter still didn't become Peter. He betrayed Jesus when threatened by a little girl. Yet that did not change Jesus' conviction. Hence at the end of his earthly Ministry immediately he resurrected he told the disciples to go tell Peter that he's risen and later on he reinstated Peter himself. That's encouragement, that's the investment of belief that pays off as success. God asked Jacob 'what is your name?' My name is Jacob' he replied. God said to him, "Your name is Jacob, but you will no longer be called Jacob; your name will be Israel." So he named him Israel. Look deep and you will understand what is going on in the psychodrama between God and Jacob. Jacob is the name of his failure. God changed it.

Lastly you say my words are nonsensical and lack substance. No wahala. But I have noticed(and I trust others too have) however subtly that you have begun to temper your criticism with the salt of some little word of hope or at least some little positive word. My words as nonsensical and unsubstantiated as they are is percolating into you and causing some shift. It's not a victory for me. It's a victory for you my dear Sir komekn (how did you even come about this most oddest of monikers? )

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kennysville:



DISCLAIMER!

I wasnt referring to Oga Kog or Icons4s. The word should av been "we".

I was pointing their attention to the genesis of issues that border around percieved tribalism as as demostrated by a moniker.
I agree that both give balanced view on things. I am only here to set the records straight. This is not about right and wrongs on their part. Choice of what we all wanna go with rests solely with us as individuals

Okay. Good to get clarification cos I felt you unjustly directed those words at him since you made them in direct reference to his posts. I get your point as directed generally to critics. We are together. Cheers man

Well it's on the thread we read comments like this. You can read back.

Just stating it so that we won't have any double standard when it comes to others.

Kog45:
U23 team?who are the people saying is enough, pls don't be deceived by some guys double standard here,they always saying that to protect their players.

Pls would Brazil,Spain,Germany even Iceland takes players playing for U23 team of his club to WC?I don't know why we don't face reality and always trying to bend the rules for some players and used another rules for some players.

If i may ask did we show the same love and solidarity we have for Nacho to Musa,No.When Musa was having it tough a lot said he should not be called to national team but when Nacho was going through the same paths our tone changed(if he can get regular playing time with U23 is good enough)thank God the young man showed what he can do against at Fleetwood,hope to see him playing regularly for Leicester not U23 and hope Musa secure a club that guarantee him playing time.

TheSuperNerd:
So it would be Poland, Serbia, England, Czech republic, DRC and then Chile/Morocco?

Is that it?

That's Six games ! omo mehn, verily verily I say unto our opponent's Be very afraid.
Kudos to NFF, they are really doing things right. I pray non of our players get injured.

Enough strong matches for today.

Press Release
Week 2 of NPFL; No Going Back on Good Officiating - NRA

The Nigeria Referees Association, NRA has stated that despite the incident recorded in one of the centres during the league opening matches, members of the association are upbeat about maintaining the fair and firm approach while handling this midweek matches.

Tade Azeez, NRA President, in a statement charged the officials to be unmindful of the unsporting behaviours of some clubs to enable them win at all cost, by ensuring that the rules of the game prevail at all times.

In the Oriental derby scheduled for today; Enyimba and NPFL returnees, Heartland, Anambra state based medical doctor, Dr Chimezie Udennaka, whose father is also a retired premier league referee, will be at the centre to be assisted by two Assistants Referees from Enugu; Justin Nnadi and Eze Chikaodili Edwin as AR1 and AR2, respectively. The Fourth Official is Okey Ezeogu. They referee assessor is retired FIFA referee, Emmanuel Onah of Enugu State Referees Council.

In Jos, newly badged FIFA Referee, Olajide Olayinka of Lagos will be assisted by another Lagos referee Shonibare Sadiq and Ekiti based Adetule Cuba on the lines, while Agboola Maroof of Osun is the fourth official as MS Danliti of Kaduna will supervise the officials for the game involving league leaders, Plateau United and Rivers Utd.

For the Tornadoes vs Ifeanyi Uba, the referees team led by an Army Officer and FIFA referee, Col Fawole has Rabiu Baita of Jigawa council as Assessor while another Fifa referee from Lagos Council, Jelili Ogunmuyiwa will be assisted by Moroof Aromona and Cletus Adewebi, all of Lagos Council in the Rangers vs Lobi clash. Referee assessor for the Enugu match is the chairman of the Delta State Referees Chairman, Alhaji Mohammed Odihili.

The NRA solicits the support of all to observe a hitch free match at all the centres.


National Publicity Secretary, NPS
NRA

tbaba1234:


Iwobi will play regardless.

He needs to work harder as mikitaryan is also a good player too. same with the rumour of aubamuyang's coming also.

somehow:
Enough strong matches for today.

This weekend games are one of the things that contribute to inconsistency by the clubs.. The long distance travels really affects them....

somehow:
Well it's on the thread we read comments like this. You can read back.

Just stating it so that we won't have any double standard when it comes to others.

OK sir

Too many derbies this week. I think they are trying to rush the season due to the world cup coming up.

Danielnino00:




This weekend games are one of the things that contribute to inconsistency by the clubs.. The long distance travels really affects them....

But you did not point out this particular moniker. You kind of generalised in your post which was exactly what made me quote you Sir.

I even did you the favor of calling out the moniker. Sir Realpoacher.

But I understand your stand. The epistle was not to misjudge your views but just to set the records straight regarding the positive reactions and fine reviews for nacho's good show yesterday.

Kog45:
My man with your first paragraph your got me wronged.I was referring to a moniker who mentioned forgiveness and Kayode to applaud Iheanacho.

Nacho is a top rated youngster and ahead of Kayode in any ramifications for now,so better to pass the message without hurting anyone and let have great discussion.

Mind you if not for Nacho do you think i w sit down and be watching Leicester vs Fleetwood.In the first leg i sat glued to see Nacho in action but needed to wait till 80 mjns before he has was introduced.I came down here to show my concerns toward the young man career.

I was in UAE in 2013 when Golden eaglet won WC,i did not miss any Nigeria matches cos of my boy Awoniyi who i knew back in Nigeria but my love for Kelechi Iheanacho started in UAE and still remain till today but i will not be biased especially towards comments that could disrupt this beautiful thread.

Kog45:
Kai oga icon4s no be we want better kits,do not worry we are having a great performance at WC.

Good kits but no be this one he is laying emphasis on it being the most beautiful ever. I am more interested in the team having the most beautiful outing ever.

Okay.... Still subject to approval. Well, five games are already more than enough but if we can make it six, then fine. No biggie. The more, the merrier in this case.

And on other matters, wow, very cool. Boosting our staff with competent nutritionists and then analysts will be just great. Very essential to the overall scientific approach a good team must employ on the global stage. Another psychologist in the team may also help out that is if we have one already.... We need the best of two shrinks working hand in hand and bouncing ideas off each other for the team's best.

Getting coaches to work with players at their clubs. True, you are right. We have already seeing that in action with Uzoho. Maybe Musa is also in the picture here who knows?

Very commendable from Rohr and the NFF and thanks for the top updates Sir Tbaba1234. Very exciting times ahead indeed.

tbaba1234:


Pinnick says that the Chile/Morocco game is still subject to approval by the coach.

He talked about getting coaches to work with players at their clubs (something they are already doing) and boosting the technical crew with other staff like analysts, nutritionists etc.

Icon4s:


Good kits but no be this one he is laying emphasis on it being the most beautiful ever. I am more interested in the team having the most beautiful outing ever.

Remember we had one of the beautiful kits at US 94 and we did well,hope to see lovely jerseys and good performance.

Let me say this again: Kelechi Iheanacho is even better than advertised. Manchester City shouldn't have insisted on inserting a "buy back clause" to his contract if they didn't see his quality!

As I have tried to explain to y'all soccer gurus in this forum, you CANNOT score if you DO NOT play. How many games exactly did Kelechi play for Leicester to indicate that he wasn't good enough to start? And when he did play, how many goal scoring opportunities did he miss? Take it from me, Kelechi would be amongst the top 10 strikers in the EPL if he plays a full season for any team.

And let me say this again and again also, Kelechi is too good to be on Leicester City bench. His quality is much higher than the likes of Demari Gray, Shanji Okazaki, and even Jamie Vardy.

O pari

Icon4s:


My brother, give the lad credit rather than downplaying the opposition. That is what we need from you.
I am not one those that blamed the coach or Leicester system. In fact I was of the opinion that if Iheanacho is as good as he is being portrayed here then he should be playing most games for a mid-table team like Leicester. No excuses of a system or coach.
Our general expectations on his performance at Leicester have been dashed. But after a long stay-off he comes and scores a brace in an FA Cup game .That is encouraging in my own perspective and the young man should be encouraged.
You sound like a perfectionist but I am one too but sometimes I use human face.

Ol' boy, no be jersey dey play o. Na system dey play. We used to sing that song in high school


O pari

Kog45:
Remember we had one of the beautiful kits at US 94 and we did well,hope to see lovely jerseys and good performance.

Kog45:
Remember we had one of the beautiful kits at US 94 and we did well,hope to see lovely jerseys and good performance.

Don't you think we love those Jerseys because we did well?

Mujtahida:

My guy the simple point Icon4s is making is that irrespective of anything whether against Fleetwood oo or backwoods ooo, the young man played well and scored and hence he should be praised. Even his coach praised him. It's not until he kills a cow that he should be praised.

Please beyond football remember you will have kids one day. Don't crush them with this high expectation syndrome. You will not praise until you are sure of 100%. No oooo. With your criticism the child might just give you 100% but he will hate you deep inside his soul. Encourage the child till he succeeds not when he succeeds. Truth is encouragement is a million times more powerful than criticism. In my estimation there's nothing like constructive criticism. All criticism is destructive. It's just that some people use the destructiveness to get better but it doesn't necessarily mean that criticism is by itself constructive. Encouragement says I value you as a human being and I believe you can do better. Criticism says all that matters to me is results, results and nothing more than results. Such an attitude is acidic, once it seeps into the psyche of a child it corrodes, it kills something vital in the child irrespective of good results

Thomas Edison's teacher called him dumb. His mother removed him from school, taught him and gave the world a genius. It's on record that even plants thrive when they are spoken to lovingly.

You are waiting for Nacho to be consistent before you praise him. But how can he become consistent if you don't praise him now. You are waiting for him to kill a cow before you become convinced
But We should and we will not wait till Nacho kills a cow before we celebrate him. He kills an ant, we rejoice, he kills a fly we rejoice some more, he kills a chicken, ohhhhhh we can't hold it, he kills a goat, we throw a party, he kills a cow, we just keep silent because our mouths will be too heavy with Joy.

I repeat: rethink criticism, don't go by the age old mantra of constructive criticism. That's a lie. Encourage, encourage, encourage all the time for encouragement is a million times more constructive than criticism.

encouragement I can agree with, infact I dish it out times without number, heck I even said Iheanacho would be my first choice ahead of Ighalo going to the world cup, that's on record which is why I don't reply senseless comments tagging me a hater when I am just trying to be realistic.

Ok now let's look at it this way, Iwobi once had a bad game and as usual goldfish80 called him out for it, I believe it was only tbaba1234 and basco that came to his rescue which is why when tbaba1234 took up this Iheanacho matter with me I kept quiet believing that he is the type of guy who gives a soft hand to everybody, that I can accept.

But then 10mins into a game(AGAINST FLEETWOOD)people were already saying how improved Iheanacho's game is(AGAINST FLEETWOOD) and immediately I said wait for the game to finish, I had tens of guys coming for my head, one perpetual noisemaker even made a lame joke about secondary school when I said Fleetwood is a non-division side, the only time I have ever heard of Fleetwood was when Vardy led Leicester to the league title, I mean we were told that Leicester went from playing for a sunday league team to winning the Epl and since Fleetwood was his team I immediately thought they were still a sunday league team which I aptly corrected afterall. Ok now if Martins plunders goals against Chinese teams we say they are poor, but now Fleetwood is raising so much emotion in our bowls? When you have a kid who went from taking 1st to taking 20, what will you tell the kid when he starts taking 15 when you know very well he can take that top prize? If Mbappe scores a double against Amiens will people even talk about it? That is what it should be, I believe in encouragement but when you encourage mediocrity then there really isn't any room for us to move forward, when you tell a kid that his failings are as a result of everyother persons' fault except his then how is he expected to sit up?(cc theGoodJoe).

Icon4s was making a lot of sense though, we should rejoice with him, we learn things about psychology and during marriage counselling we do tell parents that it's not all the time that you will show your kid that you are pleased with what they did outrightly, I mean if your 16year old kid boils yam for the first time, you may be happy but calm down, act is if you missed it and tomorrow he will cook yam porridge to impress you more, then and only then will you now congratulate him for that one and for the one he cooked the day before that. You are more into law which entails attacking things outrightly which is why I understand your stand, I am only suprised that someone like theSuperNerd does not understand my own point of view, but then again it's because it's me,if I say Nacho has a bad firs touch I am a hater

Icon79:
Let me say this again: Kelechi Iheanacho is even better than advertised. Manchester City shouldn't have insisted on inserting a "buy back clause" to his contract if they didn't see his quality!

As I have tried to explain to y'all soccer gurus in this forum, you CANNOT score if you DO NOT play. How many games exactly did Kelechi play for Leicester to indicate that he wasn't good enough to start? And when he did play, how many goal scoring opportunities did he miss? Take it from me, Kelechi would be amongst the top 10 strikers in the EPL if he plays a full season for any team.

And let me say this again and again also, Kelechi is too good to be on Leicester City bench. His quality is much higher than the likes of Demari Gray, Shanji Okazaki, and even Jamie Vardy.

O pari

so Nacho is better than Vardy? Then again you were also the same guy that said that Nacho can be starting for Barca because he is better than Suarez right?

Icon4s:


Don't you think we love those Jerseys because we did well?

True talk

Icon79:
Ol' boy, no be jersey dey play o. Na system dey play. We used to sing that song in high school


O pari

Yea not jersey but better to have it good though nobody rate jersey at WC but performance.

komekn:


As I agree with you.

Watch how I get labelled a hater of KC.

The reality is KC has not performed he is a £25 million striker that has not delivered commensurate with hi price tag. I am watching all the accolades and comparison going on world class striker, etc.

It's hope for better things to come and a lot of work for him to do to get there.

You be goat,to criticize naija players no dey hard una,how many match ihenancho has played that you want him to prove him self?someone that doesn't leave the bench at times?how you take dey watch your ball,abeg guy you too mumu,in this current market you call 25 million high price tag,I don't think you watch football but rugby,ihenancho wey most of him games na 10 min and 5 min,you want make him use am score goals,morata wey dem buy 75 million has he prove him self or lukaku? See salah wey dey cheaper dey bang goals anyhow,you guys should stop the jealousy on iheanacho and get a life