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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 6:39am On Jan 29, 2018
kellycute:
bro please stop acting ridiculous. TheSuperNerd’s statement from the beginning of this debate has been spot on. Make I help you talk am for pidgin so that you go understand well. TheSuperNerd say nacho best position Na SS and he also say nacho dey do well as top9, he say nacho stat don prove d fact say he dey Hama goal as top9.
Please chill Cos you dey fall for your hand small small here. Bro you can’t win all the time.move on mate!
I don't even know why Supernerd is still answering the bros, pesin wey e for ignore since
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 7:11am On Jan 29, 2018
So I woke up to this trash. My verdict though ; supernerd I must say has had a tremendous growth from the last time he was here. Dude is hitting the main points and goldfish80 is busy attacking his person. Dude sees it as an argument while to goldfish80 it is a brawl hence he(goldfish80) resorted to name calling when he ran outta ideas lol. Nerd has acted like the man here while goldfish80 grin

Last Last, this trash ain't needed here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:35am On Jan 29, 2018
kellycute:
bro please stop acting ridiculous. TheSuperNerd’s statement from the beginning of this debate has been spot on. Make I help you talk am for pidgin so that you go understand well. TheSuperNerd say nacho best position Na SS and he also say nacho dey do well as top9, he say nacho stat don prove d fact say he dey Hama goal as top9.
Please chill Cos you dey fall for your hand small small here. Bro you can’t win all the time.move on mate!


the convo has gone deeper than that.

First of all what is an SS? An SS depends on the system you are playing, we have a Second Striker and then a Support Striker, Iheanacho is a Support Striker and not a Second Striker and a support striker is not a striker, he is just supporting the striker hence the name.

Then playing a 4-2-3-1 does not mean you cannot have two people up top. It depends on the style of play of that AMF/SS in the hole. If he is a player like Isco who likes operating through the wings then one of the smfs will have to drift in to make the attack two pronged. But if the AMF/SS is someone who likes scoring and occupying a striker's position then it automatically turns into a two-pronged attack, I mean against Zambia Iheanacho was virtually a striker with Ideye so saying Diabate was playing up top with Iheanacho is not false.


Then going further, Iheanacho has performed better in a two pronged attack. Even after yesterday's game, one of my friends said the guy is better when given a free role, a striker cannot be given a free role when he is leading the attack. See, scoring does not equate to having a good game, Iheanacho's better games have been as a SS, sometimes as a striker, no, most times as a striker he does not perform, yes he may score but he does not generally perform.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 7:37am On Jan 29, 2018
ChrisKels:
So I woke up to this trash. My verdict though ; supernerd I must say has had a tremendous growth from the last time he was here. Dude is hitting the main points and goldfish80 is busy attacking his person. Dude sees it as an argument while to goldfish80 it is a brawl hence he(goldfish80) resorted to name calling when he ran outta ideas lol. Nerd has acted like the man here while goldfish80 grin

Last Last, this trash ain't needed here


start reading from where the thing actually started. Goldfish80 isn't like me, he was replying peacefully and the insults just kept coming so he changed, I have appealed to him to let it slide though but saying he is the one who started attacking the other's personality, sorry that isnt true

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 7:45am On Jan 29, 2018
Mickael2:

See, scoring does not equate to having a good game, Iheanacho's better games have been as a SS, sometimes as a striker, no, most times as a striker he does not perform, yes he may score but he does not generally perform.

I remember scorers like van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet and Inzaghi who could be invisible all game but turn up with the vital goal. if a striker is scoring, he is playing well.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:02am On Jan 29, 2018
tbaba1234:


Really nice.. Is he a potential A team left back?

A potential left back..........Yes with more exposures. His dashing moves forward to help the attack was commendable but he leaves spaces at the back which Angola couldn't capitalise on. His defending was okay (6.5/10)

For the A team.............No he's just average and he might cause problem for the team when he supports the attack except he'd just be a sit back LB then he might do well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 8:08am On Jan 29, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
CHAN: Ezenwa Named Man Of The Match Of Nigeria Vs Angola
By Adeboye Amosu



Home-based Super Eagles captain Ikechukwu Ezenwa was named man of the match following his superb showing in the side’s 2-1 win against Angola in their African Nations Championship (CHAN) quarter-final clash on Sunday, Completesportsnigeria.com reports.

Ezenwa is the third Nigerian player to have picked the award in the competition after Stephen Eze and Dayo Ojo were adjudged best players in the games against Libya and Equatorial Guinea respectively.

The Enyimba goalkeeper was at his best in the encounter, making four vital saves to ensure the Home Eagles beat the Angolans and secure their passage into the semi-finals where they will face Sudan.

His impressive showing has no doubt boosted his chances of not only making Nigeria’s 23-man squad to the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia but picking the number one goalkeeping position.

Salisu Yusuf’s men came back from a goal down to beat Angola 2-1 with Anthony Okpotu and Gabriel Okechukwu grabbing the goals.

They will take on Sudan in one of the two semi- inal games in Marrakech on Wednesday.

Source: https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/chan-ezenwa-named-man-match-nigeria-vs-angola/
Which no. 1 position?

Ezenwa no.1 for Russia?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:21am On Jan 29, 2018
tbaba1234:


I remember scorers like van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet and Inzaghi who could be invisible all game but turn up with the vital goal. if a striker is scoring, he is playing well.
epp me tell Mickael2 o, what is the point of a striker that does not score?

Kelechi had a rating of 8.9 in that game, he was the second highest rated player and maybe he would have been higher if oga Puel did not take him off.

If a striker likes, he can join build up play, he can defend and have the highest tackles, but if he fails to score, he no try

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:27am On Jan 29, 2018
But scoring and playing well aren't exactly the same, if not Morata would be in madrid right now. Benzema is no goalscorer but he plays a lot better than Morata hence he gets the nod time and again. Like I said, a striker's bad game can be masked by one or two goals but that does not change what it is, a bad game.

tbaba1234:


I remember scorers like van Nistelrooy, Trezeguet and Inzaghi who could be invisible all game but turn up with the vital goal. if a striker is scoring, he is playing well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:29am On Jan 29, 2018
safarigirl:
epp me tell Mickael2 o, what is the point of a striker that does not score?

Kelechi had a rating of 8.9 in that game, he was the second highest rated player and maybe he would have been higher if oga Puel did not take him off.

If a striker likes, he can join build up play, he can defend and have the highest tackles, but if he fails to score, he no try


just browse Benzema and there you will see the need of a striker who does not score. He sacrifices his goalscoring ability to be able to bring other players(CR7 most especially) into the game, he has 3UCL medals because of that and he played crucial roles in all of them, most times without scoring. This is not a knock on Iheanacho, if he continues scoring in that CF role then nobody will complain, but the problem here is that the day he will not score, the entire press will come at him for repeated bad performances.


NB: I said most times, not all the time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:48am On Jan 29, 2018
This Iheanacho debate sef na wa o.

To be candid, I never read most of those posts between TheSuperNerd and Goldfish80. You guys are just going round in circles. Debating about the same thing over and over.
Person dey watch Nigeria vs Angola una no gree pessin here word. Una still continue after the match no let pessin here post match analysis.

Michael2 and Safarigirl don start their own

Haba! Wetin na?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:23am On Jan 29, 2018
Chief Icon4s smiley How were we going round in circles? Can't you see that one was doing his very best to keep the lies coming against that young mam called Nacho. Every time Nacho scores and does well, Goldfish cringes and gnashes.... cheesy #Fact

Or how else do you explain an attempt to debate what formation Leicester played yesterday confirmed by all who watched and by all known reputable sites like Squawka, WhoScored, Goal.com and more?

Firstly , Leicester played a 4-2-3-1 and Nacho's goals prove it over and over again based on the positioning of the players for the most parts..... These deliberately blind bats led by Goldfish80 just wanna argue nonsense for argument sake. They got nothing sound at all. It is just a deliberate attempt to twist the truth.




Also, Goldfish80 proved himself a Neanderthalic coward by not owing up to what an SS means....

He also could not show me where I agreed with him by saying Nacho is NOT a striker....

Abeg, Is a support Striker not a striker? or abi support striker can CM shey? He is very laughable. Looooollllll lolll


Saying someome has a Best position, abeg does is not mean he has alternative positions too?

Please who did Positive, Comparative and Superlative in School back then? Seems Old man Goldfish80 needs a recall? It is really shameful to see a grown mam like him dodge the truth and defecate on himself when presented obvious facts..... He doesn't even understand grammes anymore. He proved himself dumb. Sorry to say.

And ofcos, Mickael2 and Komekn will agree with him.... very super predictable... they all belong to Tue house of Foolery and negativity directed towards a special Player like Nacho. These are the guys who will cringe and gnash their teeth when Nacho shines in the GWG.... it is f**king obvious.



Icon4s:
This Iheanacho debate sef na wa o.

To be candid, I never read most of those posts between TheSuperNerd and Goldfish80. You guys are just going round in circles. Debating about the same thing over and over.
Person dey watch Nigeria vs Angola una no gree pessin here word. Una still continue after the match no let pessin here post match analysis.

Michael2 and Safarigirl don start their own

Haba! Wetin na?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 9:35am On Jan 29, 2018
Some pipu really get time & mb to waste. I have scrolled through like 5 pages & kept seeing a repetition of Nacho this iheanacho that. Mtcheew. As if their is a gold cup for d winner.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:37am On Jan 29, 2018
Icon4s:
This Iheanacho debate sef na wa o.

To be candid, I never read most of those posts between TheSuperNerd and Goldfish80. You guys are just going round in circles. Debating about the same thing over and over.
Person dey watch Nigeria vs Angola una no gree pessin here word. Una still continue after the match no let pessin here post match analysis.

Michael2 and Safarigirl don start their own
J
Haba! Wetin na?
safarigirl start wetin? I no get time to dey drag with anybody.

BBNaija is back, I go just talk one for this thread, comot. I ain't doing no back and forth with nobody, na until March I go balance well for here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:38am On Jan 29, 2018
It's now about strikers having a good game just because they scored. Micheal2 why don't you ask them if Okpotu had a good game yesterday. Apparently he scored last night.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:42am On Jan 29, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Chief Icon4s smiley How were we going round in circles? Can't you see that one was doing his very best to keep the lies coming against that young mam called Nacho. Every time Nacho scores and does well, Goldfish cringes and gnashes.... cheesy #Fact

Or how else do you explain an attempt to debate what formation Leicester played yesterday confirmed by all who watched and by all known reputable sites like Squawka, WhoScored, Goal.com and more?

Firstly , Leicester played a 4-2-3-1 and Nacho's goals prove it over and over again based on the positioning of the players for the most parts..... These deliberately blind bats led by Goldfish80 just wanna argue nonsense for argument sake. They got nothing sound at all. It is just a deliberate attempt to twist the truth.




Also, Goldfish80 proved himself a Neanderthalic coward by not owing up to what an SS means....

He also could not show me where I agreed with him by saying Nacho is NOT a striker....

Abeg, Is a support Striker not a striker? or abi support striker can CM shey? He is very laughable. Looooollllll lolll


Saying someome has a Best position, abeg does is not mean he has alternative positions too?

Please who did Positive, Comparative and Superlative in School back then? Seems Old man Goldfish80 needs a recall? It is really shameful to see a grown mam like him dodge the truth and defecate on himself when presented obvious facts..... He doesn't even understand grammes anymore. He proved himself dumb. Sorry to say.

And ofcos, Mickael2 and Komekn will agree with him.... very super predictable... they all belong to Tue house of Foolery and negativity directed towards a special Player like Nacho. These are the guys who will cringe and gnash their teeth when Nacho shines in the GWG.... it is f**king obvious.




This 2 faced whimpering girl have started again. You have been enbolded that your support cast have arrived.
I see you're receiving salutations and endorsements. Reminds me of the emperor and his new cloths.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:43am On Jan 29, 2018
Most sites will class Support Striker with Second striker also.... they are both similar.... and I won't take anyone's words for it but use the various definitions available on the internet from other people who understand the beautiful game and not truth-bending, facts-twisting lots like Goldfish80 and Mickael2 (not surprised... he cannot tell the truth when it comes to Nacho to save his own skin. If he were asked to choose between giving up his life and admitting Nacho is a striker, he will choose death.. loolll Same was Goldfish80)


Here is a report on the support striker role reported during the time Luis Suarez was at Liverpool - More to come soon..... You guys wanna play hide and seek with facts? I know that game so well... Facts will win out eventually and cheap name calling.... Ready to learn some more? Leggo.... this is like a slideshow hence its style of presentation.



Definition
1 OF 11
So what's a "support striker?"

Footballing roles are becoming increasingly hard to define, categorise and identify. Gone are the days when the word "midfielder" is enough to answer the question "which position do you play?"

Just like a midfielder could be a box-to-box runner, a " regista," a classic No. 10 or an anchor, a striker could be a target man, a support striker or a prima punta.

Here, we define the role as a player who operates in a forward line, usually of two or three, and drops deeper or wider to link the play. He's not the go-to guy for goals, but more a " seconda punta."

He is classed as a striker, but will likely be found in line with an advanced midfield player and is comfortable on the ball.


This article is about the top 10 support strikers playing right now, but for a classical example of this role look no further than Alessandro Del Piero.


Antonio Cassano 2 OF 11

We kick off the list with one of the very best in the business, Inter's new acquisition Antonio Cassano.

The Italian's most recent eye-catching display as a top-class support striker was Euro 2012, where he provided vital links from his midfield through to Mario Balotelli throughout the tournament.

His incredible work rate and clever movement made the task a lot easier for his striking partner, as without him Riccardo Montolivo's inadequacies in playing at the point of a midfield diamond would have been exposed to a global audience.

Cassano can pull wide, win flick-ons and keep it simple in possession. He's Edinson Cavani's dream partner.


Luis Suarez 3 OF 11

Brendan Rodgers is playing Luis Suarez as a central striker out of necessity, not choice.

It's common consensus that his favoured position is not as an out-and-out striker, but as some kind of free-flowing hybrid between poacher, winger and attacking midfielder.

Uruguay enjoyed considerable success in the 2010 World Cup and the subsequent 2011 Copa America thanks to a partnership between Suarez and Diego Forlan.

Forlan grabbed all the goals, but it was his compatriot who did the hard yards, linked the play and created the chances.
Suarez's work rate is astounding, while his striker's instinct sees him to the right position at the right time.



Lionel Messi 4 OF 11

What position does Lionel Messi even play?
He's utilised the false nine spot for almost two seasons now, but has frequently found himself anywhere across the front line throughout his career.

Being the world's best current false-nine automatically makes him one of the top support strikers. When he plays in conjunction with Alexis Sanchez—who at times, confusingly, is deployed as a false 10—his link up play is second to none.

He rarely loses the ball, shrugs off challenges and can pass while running at full speed. Perhaps best of all, he attracts the attention of two, three even four defenders at times, leaving his striker partner one vs. one with the last centre-back.


Ezequiel Lavezzi 5 OF 11

Antonio Cassano might be Edinson Cavani's dream, but Ezequiel Lavezzi was more than a serviceable replacement during their time together at Napoli.

The Argentine hotshot, who has just joined Paris Saint-Germain in a shudderingly expensive deal, showed the world how classy his movement can be against Chelsea last season in the UEFA Champions League.

Even the Stamford Bridge outfit—who went on to become known for their defensive stubbornness during the tournament—couldn't deal with the playmaker, whose runs in and around the box were borderline impossible to resist.


Stevan Jovetic 6 OF 11

Fiorentina were awfully busy during the summer, but their most prized asset once again evaded the reaches of the big boys.
Stevan Jovetic has come back from a serious injury and fulfilled his potential amidst fears he wouldn't quite reach the levels expected.

Manchester City, among others, have been credited with an interest in him and rightly so—he can pass, dribble and score from just about anywhere.

He's a real live wire with the ball at his feet and you never quite know what he's going to do with it, making him extremely difficult to play against.


David Villa 7 OF 11

David Villa moved to Barcelona and struggled immensely for several months. Why?

He used to be a poacher, and his days at Valencia taught him to be the prima punta in his team—a role in which he would exclusively score goals, and not a lot else.

Barcelona asked him to become more than just a finisher, and believed he had the talent to become an elite all-round forward.
Moving to the left-wing allowed Lionel Messi to play centrally and have Villa play more of an influential part in the build-up play.

It's a marker for how drastically (and successfully) he changed his game when, as it became clear he would not feature at Euro 2012, many asked how Spain's entire forward line would cope, not just where the goals would come from.



Wayne Rooney 8 OF 11

Wayne Rooney has played a variety of positions at Manchester United as the star comings and goings force him to change his role in the side season on season.
Last season, in Sir Alex Ferguson's 4-4-1-1, Rooney played a deeper role and then went on to feature the same way for Roy Hodgson's England.
His form for England was poor, but his performances for United were fantastic. He's selfless, he's quality on the ball and he's clever enough to get back into a striker's position when necessary.



Sergio Aguero & Carlos Tevez 9 OF 11

Although Sergio Aguero clearly thrives as a striker latching onto through-balls and lingering in the box, his earlier years playing football brought out a slightly different side of him.

He's always been capable of playing as an attacking midfielder, and finds it easy to drop off the front line.

Carlos Tevez, too, is adept at switching wide or dropping into midfield. With Roberto Mancini's 3-5-2, Tevez is the striker who floats side-to-side and drifts away from the prima punta in Mario Balotelli.

In fact, look for him to become Balotelli's Antonio Cassano from Euro 2012, but in a City shirt, as long as Aguero is injured.
Together, they form a fearsome Argentine combo who regularly torment defences by switching roles, which is the reason I've coupled them in this article.



Mario Mandzukic 10 OF 11

Mario Mandzukic represents a different type of support striker and that's why he's squeezed onto this list.

His move to Bayern is no less than he deserved, but no one can be completely sure of how good he can become. What he does do is link play well to the forward line, run until the tank is empty and score goals himself.

Croatia's 1-1 draw against Italy in Euro 2012 saw Mandzukic instructed to man-mark Andrea Pirlo without the ball, then break free and supply balls forward when his team is in possession.


Source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1323788-top-10-support-strikers-in-world-football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:51am On Jan 29, 2018
Yep... still on Support striker/Second Striker.... Got no more time for silly banters with a lying coward.... reply facts with facts then we can talk further... looollll... Goldfish80's exposition as a liar really not going down well with him.. he brings out what has been in him alp along... his animalistic nature... hiding and waiting for the right trigger to unleash it... it just had to be me... I put negative fellas like him in their dirty ugly places not with guns but with the weapon of facts.... Goldfish80, sorry, Pele okay... You lost smiley

From wiki... The truth hurts our dear negative lots... wink


Second striker


Deep-lying forwards have a long history in the game, but the terminology to describe their playing activity has varied over the years.
Originally such players were termed inside forwards, creative or deep-lying centre-forwards.

More recently, two more variations of this old type of player have developed: the second, or shadow, or support, or auxiliary striker and, in what is in fact a distinct position unto its own, the number 10, exemplified by Diego Maradona , who is often described as an attacking midfielder or the playmaker .


The second striker position is a loosely defined and most often misapplied description of a player positioned somewhere between the out-and-out striker, whether he is a "target-man" or more of a "poacher", and the Number 10 or attacking midfielder, while possibly showing some of the characteristics of both. In fact, a coined term, the "nine-and-a-half", has been an attempt to become a standard in defining the position.

Conceivably, a Number 10 can alternate as a second-striker provided that he or she is also a prolific goalscorer; otherwise, a mobile forward with good technical ability ( dribbling skills and ball control) and link-up play, who can both score and create opportunities for a less versatile centre-forward, is more suited.

Second or support strikers do not tend to get as involved in the orchestration of attacks as the Number 10, nor do they bring as many other players into play, since they do not share the burden of responsibility, functioning predominantly as
assist providers.

In Italy, this role is known as a "rifinitore" or "seconda punta", whereas in Brazil, it is known as "segundo atacante" or "ponta-de-lança".


Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_(association_football)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 9:51am On Jan 29, 2018
Mickael2:



the convo has gone deeper than that.

First of all what is an SS? An SS depends on the system you are playing, we have a Second Striker and then a Support Striker, Iheanacho is a Support Striker and not a Second Striker and a support striker is not a striker, he is just supporting the striker hence the name.

Then playing a 4-2-3-1 does not mean you cannot have two people up top. It depends on the style of play of that AMF/SS in the hole. If he is a player like Isco who likes operating through the wings then one of the smfs will have to drift in to make the attack two pronged. But if the AMF/SS is someone who likes scoring and occupying a striker's position then it automatically turns into a two-pronged attack, I mean against Zambia Iheanacho was virtually a striker with Ideye so saying Diabate was playing up top with Iheanacho is not false.


Then going further, Iheanacho has performed better in a two pronged attack. Even after yesterday's game, one of my friends said the guy is better when given a free role, a striker cannot be given a free role when he is leading the attack. See, scoring does not equate to having a good game, Iheanacho's better games have been as a SS, sometimes as a striker, no, most times as a striker he does not perform, yes he may score but he does not generally perform.
let me ask you a very straight question and please give me straight answer. Is nacho doing well and scoring goal at the moment? True or false?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:02am On Jan 29, 2018
kennysville:
Another 50 pages of debate loading.......5%


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E remain 27 pages only..... oya na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:07am On Jan 29, 2018
So TheSuperNerd and goldfish stayed awake all night just to bash each other..

Nawa o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:11am On Jan 29, 2018
Looooollll.... you funny Safarihoney... actually, from my end it is still about Iheanacho... but from his end, well, he finds it hard biting the dust in defeat after having his stand shattered by facts and proof. This is why he tries to deflect from the discussion to personal attacks... loooollll... he is really having a hard time being on the receiving end from a guy his junior in age by far.

Everyone has an ego... I happen to have an ego no doubt and I am one who is also unbendable when it comes to truth on our Nigerian players for instance. It is not about Ego for me... but for him, it is about Ego and not wanting to lose the argument even when he's lost it already. wink

Biko, away from that... have you landed a BBN favourite? Maybe you already rooting for the "pilot" eh? wink Abeg have a swell day Safarihoney. smiley

safarigirl:
lol...this argument is not about Iheanacho anymore, it is about two people with plenty ego, Iheanacho is just the reuse grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:15am On Jan 29, 2018
Actually, I am mostly awake for hours... I do most of my best work at night as well as in the day... And I didn't bash anyone really... I just kept shoving the truth he was running from in his bloody lying face... cheesy

It stinks really to see a grown man mishandling the truth and trying to beat or bend it to a suitable form to suit his defeated stand. People view this thread and they deserve to know the truth of our players.... Goldfish acts to distort that truth as with his cohorts. It was really fun seeing him throw tantrums after tantrums... shows he's lost it really. Happens when a guy like him loses an argument. wink

Danielnino00:
So TheSuperNerd and goldfish stayed awake all night just to bash each other..


Nawa o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:16am On Jan 29, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Yep... still on Support striker/Second Striker.... Got no more time for silly banters with a lying coward.... reply facts with facts then we can talk further... looollll... Goldfish80's exposition as a liar really not going down well with him.. he brings out what has been in him alp along... his animalistic nature... hiding and waiting for the right trigger to unleash it... it just had to be me... I put negative fellas like him in their dirty ugly places not with guns but with the weapon of facts.... Goldfish80, sorry, Pele okay... You lost smiley

From wiki... The truth hurts our dear negative lots... wink


Second striker


Deep-lying forwards have a long history in the game, but the terminology to describe their playing activity has varied over the years.
Originally such players were termed inside forwards, creative or deep-lying centre-forwards.

More recently, two more variations of this old type of player have developed: the second, or shadow, or support, or auxiliary striker and, in what is in fact a distinct position unto its own, the number 10, exemplified by Diego Maradona , who is often described as an attacking midfielder or the playmaker .


The second striker position is a loosely defined and most often misapplied description of a player positioned somewhere between the out-and-out striker, whether he is a "target-man" or more of a "poacher", and the Number 10 or attacking midfielder, while possibly showing some of the characteristics of both. In fact, a coined term, the "nine-and-a-half", has been an attempt to become a standard in defining the position.

Conceivably, a Number 10 can alternate as a second-striker provided that he or she is also a prolific goalscorer; otherwise, a mobile forward with good technical ability ( dribbling skills and ball control) and link-up play, who can both score and create opportunities for a less versatile centre-forward, is more suited.

Second or support strikers do not tend to get as involved in the orchestration of attacks as the Number 10, nor do they bring as many other players into play, since they do not share the burden of responsibility, functioning predominantly as
assist providers.

In Italy, this role is known as a "rifinitore" or "seconda punta", whereas in Brazil, it is known as "segundo atacante" or "ponta-de-lança".


Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_(association_football)

Oh ..our dearest 25yr old baby has gone to Wikipedia to search for answers on what a SS means. Probably when he called Kelechi a SS he didn't know what he was saying. Chai
I love the shift you're putting in just to contradict yourself. Very hard working of you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:26am On Jan 29, 2018
How far can CHAN Eagles wobble and fumble?


By admin -
January 29, 2018, 8:19 am

The flaws in this CHAN Eagles are alarming. A lot of questions hanging on the competence of the coaches. I don’t want to dwell on the players’ shortcomings. Much said already. But those who file them out should get some knocks.

I was utterly embarrassed seeing Mano carve our defence open at will. I studied this team during the group stage and identified him as their go-to guy, alongside Job. I expected Salisu Yusuf and his assitants to do the needful and keep him quiet.




But there was no conscious effort to stop him. There was no perceived effort to detail specific players with that assignment. Even if no particular player was put on him, there should have been a ploy to stiffen him by, perhaps having more personnel in middle of the park to starve the opposition of possession and cut his supplier.

I just get this feeling that these boys were just pushed out there. No effort to do things differently. I get the impression of a poorly guided team.

What Angola will bring against Eagles

I knew the Angolans are profligate in front of goal. If you read my scouting report again, you will observe I pointed out that their conversion rate is low compared to their possession-based game. They didn’t disappoint me. They should have taken that game far beyond the Eagles long before the equaliser came. Va isn’t just potent enough.

Then we had an inspired goalkeeper who kept us in the game. This result is flattering.

You remember when Thijs Libregts was sent on a rescue mission to the U20 team at Nigeria 99? After the wobbling and fumbling team was bundled out by Mali in the quarter-final, Libtegts had exclaimed; “the disease killed the patient”.

This team is ill. We hope the disease doesn’t ultimately kill it. If this patient dies, some of us won’t be surprised. We are merely praying for some form of miraculous healing.

Let’s be FRANK…This team hasn’t shown what it takes to weather the storms now that the jungle has really matured. Sudan is waiting just as a potential final against the hosts.

It takes more than trial and error to nick the ultimate prize. Those boys need proper GUIDANCE…



By Clement Nwankpa Jr

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2018/01/29/how-far-can-chan-eagles-wobble-and-fumble/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:26am On Jan 29, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

Chief Icon4s smiley How were we going round in circles? Can't you see that one was doing his very best to keep the lies coming against that young mam called Nacho. Every time Nacho scores and does well, Goldfish cringes and gnashes.... cheesy #Fact

Or how else do you explain an attempt to debate what formation Leicester played yesterday confirmed by all who watched and by all known reputable sites like Squawka, WhoScored, Goal.com and more?

Firstly , Leicester played a 4-2-3-1 and Nacho's goals prove it over and over again based on the positioning of the players for the most parts..... These deliberately blind bats led by Goldfish80 just wanna argue nonsense for argument sake. They got nothing sound at all. It is just a deliberate attempt to twist the truth.




Also, Goldfish80 proved himself a Neanderthalic coward by not owing up to what an SS means....

He also could not show me where I agreed with him by saying Nacho is NOT a striker....

Abeg, Is a support Striker not a striker? or abi support striker can CM shey? He is very laughable. Looooollllll lolll


Saying someome has a Best position, abeg does is not mean he has alternative positions too?

Please who did Positive, Comparative and Superlative in School back then? Seems Old man Goldfish80 needs a recall? It is really shameful to see a grown mam like him dodge the truth and defecate on himself when presented obvious facts..... He doesn't even understand grammes anymore. He proved himself dumb. Sorry to say.

And ofcos, Mickael2 and Komekn will agree with him.... very super predictable... they all belong to Tue house of Foolery and negativity directed towards a special Player like Nacho. These are the guys who will cringe and gnash their teeth when Nacho shines in the GWG.... it is f**king obvious.





is it not funny that in the bleacher report article you posted they said clearly that 'He is classed as a striker, but will likely be
found in line with an advanced midfield
player and is comfortable on the ball'. That means he is far far from being a striker, he is a pseudo midfielder as much as he is a pseudo striker which is what I already explained but since you want to believe that they are all the same then no problem.


And what Goldfish80 has been implying all along is that Iheanacho is not a CF, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between CF and a striker you know right? What are you then arguing?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:29am On Jan 29, 2018
kellycute:
let me ask you a very straight question and please give me straight answer. Is nacho doing well and scoring goal at the moment? True or false?


I do not understand the essence of your question
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:32am On Jan 29, 2018
From same bleacher report....

Just like a midfielder could be a box-to-box runner, a " regista," a classic No. 10 or an anchor, a striker could be a target man, a support striker or a prima punta.

By using Pseudo Striker and pseudo Midfielder, you are only justifying "My Deeplying forward/Attacking midfielder hybrid talk" wink Coz I know exactly what I have been saying.

In all, A support striker/second striker is a striker after all... Finito. itz a simpu sturvs. No need coating it...


Mickael2:



is it not funny that in the bleacher report article you posted they said clearly that 'He is classed as a striker, but will likely be
found in line with an advanced midfield
player and is comfortable on the ball'. That means he is far far from being a striker, he is a pseudo midfielder as much as he is a pseudo striker which is what I already explained but since you want to believe that they are all the same then no problem

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:34am On Jan 29, 2018
goldfish80:
It's now about strikers having a good game just because they scored. Micheal2 why don't you ask them if Okpotu had a good game yesterday. Apparently he scored last night.


it is actually funny because I know humility was bashing the team and Okpotu even though he scored but now I said Iheanacho has scored in the CF role without really performing and the narrative has changed to 'any striker that scores played well'. I don't exactly have time for such arguments sha, it's quite clear
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:36am On Jan 29, 2018
TheSuperNerd:

From same bleacher report....

Just like a midfielder could be a box-to-box runner, a " regista," a classic No. 10 or an anchor, a striker could be a target man, a support striker or a prima punta.

By using Pseudo Striker and pseudo Midfielder, you are only justifying "My Deeplying forward/Attacking midfielder hybrid talk" wink Coz I know exactly what I have been saying.

In all, A support striker/second striker is a striker after all... Finito. itz a simpu sturvs. No need coating it...




this whole argument does not make sense. Let's get to the end of it, just answer these questions;
1) You know Goldfish80 has been referring to a CF not exactly a striker right?
2) you know a striker is way way different from a CF right?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:38am On Jan 29, 2018
It is useless going any further with blind fellas really... doing everything they can to beat some meaning into the rubbish they spill when obvious fact is obvious fact.... Hahahahahahahahaha

And No Mickael2... Goldfish80 made use of the term Lone striker/Top 9, Centre forward... ofcos I know rhe subtle difference between a forward and a striker... it is right there in the wiki link too I shared... doesn't change anything coz Nacho was top 9/Centre forward/Lone striker in that 4-2-3-1 formation... c'est fini.

I am done with my expository essays... lol You guys can quote and rant and decide to drop more comments for the thread... will help us in our quest to hit 3000pages soon enough... grin

Anything that will make you sleep well at night or make your heart stop beating fast, please feel free to drop... as for me... I don waka oooo... I have moved on. At least the majority of the house can see the folly in your arguments and the truth for themselves.


Adios fellas wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 10:38am On Jan 29, 2018
Mickael2:



I do not understand the essence of your question
lol.. it is a simple question sir.

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