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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:13pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: Michael2, we all here are critics. We have criticised different things about Nigerian football, our players or coaches, the NFF, and all. We all see it as due to the love of the game and the GWG. When some people called you a hater of the national team and some players, remember I was one of those that defended you as not being a hater but just a critic. How can you be defending such evil done against a Nigerian player and you here doing one kind of comparison with where Matuidi tackled him? Is it because it was Onazi, one of the players that have always been on your bad books, that was involved? My brother, I am beginning to feel I was wrong about my stance about you being a hater all along. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:13pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
tbaba1234: you know that your interpretation of an intentional handball for example, may differ from my own interpretation right? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:15pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
For the record, I don't care about your stance, it is your opinion and is squarely yours. On the matter though....wait sef, do you think I am saying that the foul was a fair one or that it isn't bad? What do you even think is the point I am trying to make? Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:18pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: You saying it was a Yellow and not a Red card offense means you are trivializing the case. That is it. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:18pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: That is not a handball. We are not judging intentions, here. It was a stud straight into the ankle. Straight red. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:18pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Iwobi on the bench.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:20pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: Do you know what a Yellow card means? It means take caution. That kind of tackle against Onazi you cannot just ask the player to take caution. You have to send him straight away! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:25pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: nooooo. No! Very very far from it, like I have mentioned on some days, for some refs it's a red card, bad bad tackle. Now if you recall this whole argument started when someone said VAR would remove bias against Africa teams and I asked for an instance, therein he provided this Onazi incident. I alluded that the tackle was bad but that the ref not sending him off may have been due to his own interpretation of the foul. I gave you the anatomical reasons why that same foul may not have ended up in an injury which may have changed the refs mind about the idea that matuidi intentionally wanted to injure Onazi. I also gave out part of the rulebook where fouls below the ankle are yellow-card offence. Then I finally added that I would have sent that guy off myself, probably a 1000 other people would send him off but if you slow down and think very well, you'd see some reasons why the guy waved it off. You even added the fact that no nigerian player protested, so now I do not understand why you are accusing me of ridiculing the extent of that foul, seems like you have forgotten the primary bone of contention 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:28pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Icon4s: you see that misunderstanding? You know that if you break someone's ankle totally and the ref decides to play the advantage at that particular point in time and the team scores, the ref cannot come back and send off that player again despite how reckless that foul was? That was what happened in the 2006 final between Arsenal and Barca to Lehmann. So I am not viewing the yellow card here as a caution, just trying to point out that it was a bad foul but some refs may have decided to not send him off totally |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:30pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: Nope, any ref should give a red card, it is not up to discretion. The only excuse is if the ref did not see it. If he saw the tackle, it is a straight red. It is not up for debate. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 1:37pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
tbaba1234: and you are even adding more reasons for me. Now if you look at that replay, the way Matuidi approached that play made it seem like it wasn't a bad tackle, infact Mikel carried on with the game thinking it was so mild that Onazi would probably stand up later and continue(that was what affected Mikel's opinion because that interview was held immediately after the match even before he got to watch the highlights himself). Ok let's all agree that it is a red card offence, but would you say that the ref was corrupt or maybe there was an agenda because that red card wasn't given? Yes or No(this is actually what the argument is all about and not the Onazi injury) 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:41pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: It was a horrific tackle. Matuidi would not have gone to apologize to Onazi if it was a normal tackle. You do not use player reaction to interpret the action of a referee. By the letter and spirit of the law, it was a red card. Simple as. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 1:57pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
tbaba1234:What if the referee is unsure? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:01pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Certitude: That is where player outrage would have helped. It would have forced the ref to ask the opinions of assistants. Our players' poor reaction did not help matters. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 2:02pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Mickael2: Post the link. Remove dot com, replace slash with semicolon. If you do I can give you 2 rules that could have been applied. By your assumption, you agree with me that rules can be twisted in self defense just as the ref in Algerian vs Nigeria match did after he awarded a dubious penalty. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 2:17pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
maidaboi: Sometimes you just have to give it to some people as it is. How can someone just pick up a subset of a rule and conclude without going through it in its entirety. It's disgusting that someone will see black and call it white. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 2:27pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Francis Uzoho to start for Deportivo LA corona tomorrow ? ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:45pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Leon Balogun starts 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:45pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
congo4ka: False info.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 2:48pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:50pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
congo4ka: Oh ok.. He trained with the first team but it is unlikely that he would start. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by congo4ka: 3:11pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
tbaba1234:Baba ur informations are top notch, is there any way you have any connection to NFF?? And are you in anyway sexually involved with safariwoman?
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:17pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Exactly. Spot on you are. I saw Awaziem's reaction from the replays. He was actually mad at Akpeyi's mistake (seem in Hus gestures/gesticulations) but when he confronted the ref he defended Akpeyi and even pointed to the linesman's flag to make a case for Akpeyi. A real show of team love and an ability to stand up for each other even in the face of a mistake. That is part of what makes a family. ![]() tbaba1234: Yaaaassss!!!!!! The Super Eagles 21st century dean of defence is back!!!! tbaba1234: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:18pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
congo4ka: You rarely make any useful comment. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 3:23pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
congo4ka:you need to be tied with a rope to the back of truck and driven on Benin- Ekpoma road. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:27pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Imoh Ezekiel. 7 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:29pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Iwobi would've had a great assist if not for that fool Lacazette. Waste of 50m 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 3:38pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
I understand too that we have Jordan Torunarigha starting yet again in central defence for Hertha BSC in their ongoing Bundesliga tie against Leverkusen. Also, Kevin Akpoguma is in action for Hoffenheim as they take on Balogun's Mainz 05. Busy day for Nigeria's league of German-machine defenders. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:42pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
edi287: What a beautiful pass it was 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:42pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
Balogun has started very well. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 3:50pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
So Lacazete nor still won get sense even with the presence of Abumeyang? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:52pm On Feb 10, 2018 |
So Balogun is playing on the right side of a three man CB. I would prefer him in the middle for Nigeria. |
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