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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 4:11pm On Feb 10, 2018
Eruditor:
Every player available for selection were already there long before Jan 23. In fact that was January 4th (it is online). So how many games were played by Jan 4? LOL.

Oga, just shut up already with this nuisance.

The very first voting results were released January 4th. The starters haven't been decided, so how would the coaches start picking reserves before the starters have been selected?


Is it not after the voting is concluded, reserves get picked based on their form before the January 23rd date?

Your argument is really kindergarten, pshhhhh




Even then, I told you that statistically those players were on par with PG shading it but he lost that margin by being number 2 on a team with a worse record than Klay who was number 3.

For goodness sake, this is the last I'll repeat this.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE 3RD SCORING OPTION

Draymond isn't the 3rd scoring option, is playing better than Klay and people aren't making noise about him. If Klay were in Blazers, putting up 20ppg as third option, nobody would give a fvck. NOT ONE!!!!

He's in the All Star for one reason: His team record.


D.umb. Bring these stats during the period of consideration and leave with egg on your face. The margins were a lot smaller between the months that factored into the decision-making of the coaches.

And as usual, you typed trash grin

Paul George was in contention for DPOY as early as November. OKC were the 2nd best defensive team up till January.

And here, you're saying his defensive numbers would reduce during that period a lot cos of who? Klay Thompson? grin grin

Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu grin





Between the 3rd scorer on a team of a catch and shoot player and a ball dominant small forward who is the 2nd scorer on his team?


You know you have no defense when all you say is 3rd scoring wink

I did and no 3rd scoring option is doing better than Klay (inconsistent as he has been). Klay whose career stats are better than PGs who was the score first option for most of his life.


grin grin grin


The question is WHO WAS MORE DESERVING OF THE ALL-STAR SPOT? That is all I am discussing even when you have tried ever so hard to change it into who is having a better season. grin

The person having the better season, more still in a winning team. Paul George checked both boxes. Klay Thompson just one sad


Same person who defended the media's decision(not coaches o) to give triple double machine MVP even when someone with a marginally similar record had the 3rd best winning record in the NBA.

So what is your next argument? That Curry did not deserve MVP in 2016 because Kyrie outplayed him in the NBA final? I can't put it past you. You just tried to use Jan and Feb to justify a decision that was made in December. School me? LMAOOOOOOO

Ladies and Gentlemen, he's veered off to another Westbrook topic grin

Your MCM uses a year old argument that's done to cover up for his weak debates.
Your MCM is obsessed with Westbrook even after he dropped 2Ls on him this season.
Your MCM is 85 smiley


Westbrook averaged a triple double, had over >10 game winners including the one that took his team to the playoffs and then won the MVP. Kill yourself...

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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 4:18pm On Feb 10, 2018
Why is someone using accounts created on the same day to like posts? sad

Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 6:10pm On Feb 10, 2018
Decale:


Oga, just shut up already with this nuisance.

The very first voting results were released January 4th. The starters haven't been decided, so how would the coaches start picking reserves before the starters have been selected?


Is it not after the voting is concluded, reserves get picked based on their form before the January 23rd date?

Your argument is really kindergarten, pshhhhh

You are still rehashing the same canned garbage. We get to know the front runners for MVP waay ahead of the playoffs. Then before, they will usually announce the winner during the playoffs or like they did last season after it, but the period of consideration is during the regular season.

OR

They get to announce the Player of the month for the player's achievements in that month even though the honour is announced and conferred sometimes during the 2nd week of the ensuing month. But the Period used to consider such award is during the previous month.

Again I repeat: The period of consideration for the NBA All-stars is everything that has occurred between Oct to Dec ending. Anything happening after is inconsequential. Every player that made it into the original team (before injuries) were announced Jan 4 on the list. Keep playing first to call post nuisance and then hit submit to post your own. grin

NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE 3RD SCORING OPTION

Draymond isn't the 3rd scoring option, is playing better than Klay and people aren't making noise about him. If Klay were in Blazers, putting up 20ppg as third option, nobody would give a fvck. NOT ONE!!!!

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

He's in the All Star for one reason: His team record.

Partly, I agree to this and have said nothing less except adding that Lou and PG do not deserve the spot over him because of January.

And as usual, you typed trash grin

Paul George was in contention for DPOY as early as November. OKC were the 2nd best defensive team up till January.

And here, you're saying his defensive numbers would reduce during that period a lot cos of who? Klay Thompson? grin grin

Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu grin

A team can be losing games 80-79 and the individual players and team will have good efficiency ratings defence-wise. I don't also recall saying PGs defensive numbers will reduce but that in that same period Klay's were marginally on par with his save steals and to a lesser degree defensive boards. Let me also add that in the period in consideration PGs numbers in Points were record low (since his 3rd season), assists (low since his second season) and rebounds (since his rookie season). grin grin grin grin grin

You know you have no defense when all you say is 3rd scoring wink

grin grin grin

Sure. The coaches are wrong. They selected Iggy in 2012. Klay should outblock KD or Dray, out assist Dray or Curry, outscore Curry or KD, outrebound KD or Dray or outsteal Curry or Dray to be an allstar. So which one is PG doing better than Westbrook? Don't tell me steals because I can use Klay's 3pt shooting as his excuse.

The person having the better season, more still in a winning team. Paul George checked both boxes. Klay Thompson just one sad

grin grin grin grin ^^^ what you have been trying so hard to argue about even when no one has contended that with you. PG is having a better season. If I have said otherwise show me. But in the OCT-DEC period which was used primarily for the decisions, Klay deserved the all-star spot all things being equal.

Ladies and Gentlemen, he's veered off to another Westbrook topic grin

Even for you, this is inane. You supported the media when it suited your argument and turned around to rubbish coaches when it does not suit it. I am showing you the illogic. It is going to be off-topic because it is off the tangent you are working with.

Your MCM uses a year old argument that's done to cover up for his weak debates.

HAHAHAHAHA.

Your MCM is obsessed with Westbrook even after he dropped 2Ls on him this season.

Last season how many Ls did he drop? Was I not "obsessed" then. You can pay for school but you cannot buy sense class.

Your MCM is 85 smiley

OKAY.

averaged a triple double, had over >10 game winners including the one that took his team to the playoffs and then won the MVP. Kill yourself...

Why would I need game winners when I am blowing teams out? Future GM thinks there is only one way to think. grin

The joke is on you.

Logic session ended.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 10, 2018
Kevin Wayne Durant is the best player on the Warriors and Wardell Stephen Curry is the most important player on the team.


Y'all can stop with the attention seeking now. We've seen you..

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 7:15pm On Feb 10, 2018
SmooshCHN1:
Kevin Wayne Durant is the best player on the Warriors and Wardell Stephen Curry is the most important player on the team.


Y'all can stop with the attention seeking now. We've seen you..

No, forget those ones. To start an argument on their own, decide who is arguing what, then pontificate right after.
Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 7:21pm On Feb 10, 2018
Eruditor:
Again I repeat: The period of consideration for the NBA All-stars is everything that has occurred between Oct to Dec ending. Anything happening after is inconsequential. Every player that made it into the original team (before injuries) were announced Jan 4 on the list. Keep playing first to call post nuisance and then hit submit to post your own. grin


Let's see the list the coaches compiled on January 3rd.

Waiting for the list



Let me also add that in the period in consideration PGs numbers in Points were record low (since his 3rd season),

Higher than Klay Thompson's

assists (low since his second season) and

Still higher than Klay Thompson's

rebounds (since his rookie season). grin grin grin grin ;



And higher than Klay Thompson's grin



[s]Sure. The coaches are wrong. They selected Iggy in 2012. Klay should outblock KD or Dray, out assist Dray or Curry, outscore Curry or KD, outrebound KD or Dray or outsteal Curry or Dray to be an allstar. So which one is PG doing better than Westbrook? Don't tell me steals because I can use Klay's 3pt shooting as his excuse.
grin grin grin grin ^^^ what you have been trying so hard to argue about even when no one has contended that with you. PG is having a better season. If I have said otherwise show me. But in the OCT-DEC period which was used primarily for the decisions, Klay deserved the all-star spot all things being equal.
Even for you, this is inane. You supported the media when it suited your argument and turned around to rubbish coaches when it does not suit it. I am showing you the illogic. It is going to be off-topic because it is off the tangent you are working with.
HAHAHAHAHA.
Last season how many Ls did he drop? Was I not "obsessed" then. You can pay for school but you cannot buy sense class.
[s]OKAY.
Why would I need game winners when I am blowing teams out? Future GM thinks there is only way to think. grin

The joke is on you.
Logic session ended.[/s]

October to February: PG13 is better in a winning team
I came down to "October to December" and PG13 is still better in a winning team.

Lemme help you out once more and this discussion is over. Don't have time for your futile posts...

Produce the list or link of the list where the coaches compiled the reserves that were going to be selected on January 4.

Do that and I'm done. Thanks
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 7:52pm On Feb 10, 2018
Decale:



Let's see the list the coaches compiled on January 3rd.

Waiting for the list





Higher than Klay Thompson's



Still higher than Klay Thompson's




And higher than Klay Thompson's grin





October to February: PG13 is better in a winning team
I came down to "October to December" and PG13 is still better in a winning team.

Lemme help you out once more and this discussion is over. Don't have time for your futile posts...

Produce the list or link of the list where the coaches compiled the reserves that were going to be selected on January 4.

Do that and I'm done. Thanks

Oga, no time for wild goose chase. The logic is simple. After player ranks, media ranks and fans rank a list comprising those who will make the list of starters and possible reserves were released.

Starters were asterixed and the rest (reserves or out) to be decided by the coaches and assistants. After that, NBA steps in incase of injuries.

The list is online.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2018/01/18/cleveland-cavaliers-lebron-james-golden-state-warriors-stephen-curry-named

Coaches could not select a name that was not on that list so even if anyone was playing out of their minds from Jan 1-23 it did not matter. Lou Will step aside.

A team coach was not allowed to select his own player. So Kerr and Brown did not select Klay. It was other coaches that did.

Klay has never been known for rebounds or assists so his numbers were effectively an improvement from his previous seasons. His ppg dropped but it was expected now that he gets to shoot the ball 3rd most in his team. I gave fax here no printers.

You said I should kill myself but I won't tell you to do same because the COACHES agreed with me. End of.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 8:44pm On Feb 10, 2018
Eruditor:


Oga, no time for wild goose chase. The logic is simple. After player ranks, media ranks and fans rank a list comprising those who will make the list of starters and possible reserves were released.

Starters were asterixed and the rest (reserves or out) to be decided by the coaches and assistants. After that, NBA steps in incase of injuries.






This is where you erred and now I'm happy to school you and then drop the Mic.


There has never been a time coaches used a list to select reserves

All Star selections start off with the fan vote, that select Starters. Media and Players rank the top vote getters (starters) and NBA gets the weighted average. That's just for starters

Coaches choose the reserves from their conferences, never using the rest of the players on the list. If there's an injury, Adam Silver replaces.

Every player in the NBA that was voted by fans were on that list down to Shabazz Muhammad, who was ranked 52 by the player and media. The NBA from your link just gave the cropped version (Top 10)...

Look at these links for yourself for some education:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_2018_voting.html

http://pr.nba.com/2018-nba-all-star-game-starters-voting-results/


Goran Dragic and Kemba Walker were not in the cropped version same as Lou Williams but were used as replacements.


The coaches voted a day before 23rd, one of the earliest reserves announcements ever. Therefore, games played in January (>10 games) were used. Klay was picked by the coaches not for his October - December performances but for his team record prior to January 23rd.

Coaches could not select a name that was not on that list so even if anyone was playing out of their minds from Jan 1-23 it did not matter. Lou Will step aside.

Hin say list before January 1st grin grin


Now run off and play somewhere to free your mind from the orgasms you thought you had defending Klay Thompson.


Peace...

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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 9:13pm On Feb 10, 2018
Decale:


This is where you erred and now I'm happy to school you and then drop the Mic.

So I had not been erring since.

There has never been a time coaches used a list to select reserves

I knew you would say this and waited for it. There is no difference between the voting pattern here and what happens in FIFA. They ALWAYS crop the list to synchronise voting or else 5 different players can be tied at the same number. It is a usual voting tool so you are not schooling anyone talmbout Shabazz Mohammed or Seth Curry.

All Star selections start off with the fan vote, that select Starters. Media and Players rank the top vote getters (starters) and NBA gets the weighted average. That's just for starters

Schooling indeed. Redundant.

Coaches choose the reserves from their conferences, never using the rest of the players on the list. If there's an injury, Adam Silver replaces.

LOOOOL

[s]Every player in the NBA that was voted by fans were on that list down to Shabazz Muhammad, who was ranked 52 by the player and media. The NBA from your link just gave the cropped version (Top 10)[/s]...


Goran Dragic and Kemba Walker were not in the cropped version same as Lou Williams but were used as replacements.

By the NBA which has always been the rule. What is the new info here? I already said this in my previous post.

The coaches voted a day before 23rd, one of the earliest reserves announcements ever. Therefore, games played in January (>10 games) were used. Klay was picked by the coaches not for his October - December performances but for his team record prior to January 23rd.

They called you and told you how Pop (leader of the coaches I presume) gave them instructions to vote Klay because of his team's record yet CP3 did not make it for his own team's record. Clap for yaself.

Hin say list before January 1st grin grin

Provide where I said "list before Jan 1st"

Now run off and play somewhere to free your mind from the orgasms you thought you had defending Klay Thompson.

Fans did not agree with you. Fans don't know bball.
Media did not agree with you.
Coaches did not agree with you.

You have done a good job pushing the triangle button on your life 'cause you played yourself. cheesy cheesy

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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 9:50pm On Feb 10, 2018
NBA told coaches to select reserves from the list that had Manu Ginobili and Lonzo Ball grin

NBA shoulda selected Ben Simmons above Dragic and Kemba since he's on the list and they weren't. Things I hear grin




Eruditor:
They called you and told you how Pop (leader of the coaches I presume) gave them instructions to vote Klay because of his team's record yet CP3 did not make it for his own team's record. Clap for yaself.



You came up with October to December stats, its been trounced

You came up with a Jan 4th list that coaches used to select reserves, it's been trounced. Sorry, sorry, this still sounds funny in my head anytime I read it grin grin Coaches list vs FIFA's list. Oh my days grin grin

Now you've come up with the bolded. Not using CP3's injury as a factor to back up Klay Thompson amazing "October to December" 3rd scoring option performances grin grin. I have a headache grin grin

You see why arguing with you is fun? Anybody reading that bolded would curse...cheesy

Anyways, you won't get any other quote from me. We'd just watch your Klay Thompson's All Star performances from here on...


Good night, NBA family smiley
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:39pm On Feb 10, 2018
Decale:
NBA told coaches to select reserves from the list that had Manu Ginobili and Lonzo Ball grin
The NBA don't determine the list. Fans, media and other players do.Your own logic has failed you so you have reduced the talk to absurdities.
NBA shoulda selected Ben Simmons above Dragic and Kemba since he's on the list and they weren't. Things I hear grin

The NBA decides who makes the cut following an injury. Nobody said anything about list with NBA. Present where anyone said so. I'll wait.

You came up with October to December stats, its been trounced

By whom and when? You played yourself. Without OCT-DEC CP3 makes the list easy. CP3 shows your Jan 23 with 10 GAMES blah blah ISSA huge lie.

You came up with a Jan 4th list that coaches used to select reserves, it's been trounced.

Delusion is bliss. Trounced. grin

Sorry, sorry, this still sounds funny in my head anytime I read it grin grin Coaches list vs FIFA's list. Oh my days grin grin

They constrain coaches to a vote within a list unlike the original list that players voted themselves etc. To prevent coaches from re-voting starters just to stay neutral. All around the world it is done. If logic amuses sensible men what do you think will amuse non-sensible men? grin

Now you've come up with the bolded. Not using CP3's injury as a factor to back up Klay Thompson amazing "October to December" 3rd scoring option performances grin grin. I have a headache grin grin

Preaching to the choir. I am the person who told Devan that CP3 did not make the list for that very reason. That is a player who could have made the list over Klay not PG13. Guess the months CP3 did not play in? grin grin grin grin

OCT & NOV. He played most of DEC (11) and January(10 before the 24th). ASK THE COACHES WHY THEY DID NOT FACTOR HIS 10 GAMES IN JANUARY or bow to superior logic.

You see why arguing with you is fun? Anybody reading that bolded would curse...cheesy

Let me take this small time to just laugh at you. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

Anyways, you won't get any other quote from me. We'd just watch your Klay Thompson's All Star performances from here on...

Maggi inside sour soup. Makes no difference to me.

v v v

From your link. Shabbaz Muhammed.

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Re: The NBA Begins by ThisIsFlashh: 10:47pm On Feb 10, 2018
Isiah Thomas is feeling unwanted presently, after barely staying up to 4 months with Cavs with a long time injuring, just after recovering, then been traded.

I am having so much pitty for him. I hope he settles in Lakers.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Manutd19: 9:42am On Feb 11, 2018
Eruditor:


No, forget those ones. To start an argument on their own, decide who is arguing what, then pontificate right after.

Clap for yourself. You just described yourself
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 1:21pm On Feb 11, 2018
ThisIsFlashh:
Isiah Thomas is feeling unwanted presently, after barely staying up to 4 months with Cavs with a long time injuring, just after recovering, then been traded.

I am having so much pitty for him. I hope he settles in Lakers.
I dont think any team will be wiling to give him that max contract he's always been praying to get..

Magic might even move him next season...So sad cry
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 10:04pm On Feb 11, 2018
I like our activity under the rim.

A night about the truth and nothing but the truth!
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 10:18pm On Feb 11, 2018
Boston has the worst set of sports fans in the world. Bunch of classless racist trashy Irish fools.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 10:34pm On Feb 11, 2018
Three consecutive turnovers. Come on Man!!!!!!
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 10:44pm On Feb 11, 2018
The problem I see here are 2 pronged;

Lack of scorers save Kyrie.
No inside presence to force Bron to become a shooter.

The D is good but strangely he is knocking almost everything. Long night if Celts don't stop the bleeding.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:02pm On Feb 11, 2018
Why have you gone quiet? Why don't you keep booing? Inbred Re tards.
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 11:09pm On Feb 11, 2018
Box Bron and JR out and dare George Hill to shoot. He won't be that high up in percentages if he took many shots. Dare him.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:17pm On Feb 11, 2018
Beat these bums up! Beat them up! Show no mercy! Steal their inebriated souls!

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Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 11:19pm On Feb 11, 2018
Cavs team looking sharp with their offense...J.R seems to finally get back on track
Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 11:19pm On Feb 11, 2018
Don't see a miraculous come back in this one so Cavs got this.

Back to the drawing board for Brad. This is a snippet of what the playoffs will be like.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 11:39pm On Feb 11, 2018
When you play poorly in the garden, you get booed, it's that simple. This is a very mobile and flexibility Cavs side. This was a beat down and a very poor defensive performance. Kind of reminds me of the loss against the Raptors when the game was over before the end of the 3rd.

Credit to the Cavs, well deserved.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 11:46pm On Feb 11, 2018
I don't know which picture I prefer. grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 12:00am On Feb 12, 2018
grin grin Reality check for all those lebron won't get to the finals fans. Celtic's fans tongue come the playoffs the bigboys will flip the switch and its Warriors vs cavs part4 again grin cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 12:00am On Feb 12, 2018
Lmaooooooooooooo.


Cleveland definitely improved.


Jayson TomTom with another hall of shame performance in a big game? cheesy cheesy


Imagine my shock. grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 2:43am On Feb 12, 2018
The Celts really needed perimeter scoring which is why I'm surprised they did not try to get Evans in the trade deadline. The best they can get now are Belinelli and Joe Johnson who are hardly reliable perimeter scorers at this point. Defense is good but there would be nights you simply have to outscore the other team.

The Raptors have learned this and now have arguably the most dynamic bench in the league. CJ Miles has been a massive steal!!!

Now to the Cavs I won't get carried away with this W just yet. Their additions are still suspect defensively aside George Hill and they benefitted from terrible 3pt shooting from the C's. I will say though that the benefit of the guys they've added is the fact that they know their roles and are likelier to leave their egos at the door and play the way Lebron wants them to play. This can also work against the Cavs but unlike IT and Wade these newer set of guys should completely toe the line
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 5:07am On Feb 12, 2018
Roland17:
When you play poorly in the garden, you get booed, it's that simple. This is a very mobile and flexibility Cavs side. This was a beat down and a very poor defensive performance. Kind of reminds me of the loss against the Raptors when the game was over before the end of the 3rd.

Credit to the Cavs, well deserved.

couldnt catch this game - was this just a fluke, or cavs really that much faster in just one game?
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 5:22am On Feb 12, 2018
Draymond : You thought you was Kobe? They don't love you like that.. grin
Paul Pierce is gonna cry in the car.. grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:20pm On Feb 12, 2018
birdman:


couldnt catch this game - was this just a fluke, or cavs really that much faster in just one game?

I am not sure I want to make hasty conclusions about the new Cavs but one thing I can say is that they seemed rejuvenated. The Celtics had a very poor night defending the perimeter and could not muster any kind of offense. I would wait until after some games to conclude this is the team for the eastern conference finals.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 2:28pm On Feb 12, 2018
Did someone say...MVP? cheesy

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