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Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Shikena(m): 7:07pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
danielitaugbede:I believe he was responding to the governor who attacked him with tithe comment and he provided those facts since his church doesn't enforce tithe. 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by masseratti: 7:17pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
uuzba:I agree with you am just quoting the obvious, the Roman Catholic church has gone through alot of reforms over 2000 years, it has had its dark ages too. |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by masseratti: 7:19pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
sirusX:oh please can you comprehend the post? Am just stating the obvious, that's all. |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by masseratti: 7:20pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
nonut:your point exactly? |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by kitaatita: 7:22pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101:.... Catholic Church does not run on tithes. She has never taught that God’s blessings depend on tithes. What the Cardinal said is in italics. He didn't at any time say that the Church doesn't collect tithe. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by erico2k2(m): 7:37pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101:Read your bible well . There is such as offering rigjt across all religion . |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by stasius: 7:41pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Catholic is my faith! 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by stasius: 7:43pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
The church is wealthier than Nigeria by the way! So governor shut your trap! Your wealth is nothing compared to the treasures of the great Roman catholic church. Don't even dare.! 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by achiever12: 7:48pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
masseratti: Still doesn't change the fact that the church doesn't attach blessings to tithe as they wrongly teach some people in the business centres they call church. And despite the riches of the Vatican, they would rather spend their excess wealth on charity than waste it on multiple private jet. Nobody can dispute this. |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Nobody: 7:54pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
OnyeOGA:while ur pope has a whole army protecting him |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by OnyeOGA(m): 7:57pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101: gullible sheeple sighted. 3 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Nobody: 8:14pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101: Calm down, the thread is not out to slight penticostals or something, the Bishop was just telling a pigheaded opportunist governor that his criticism of the current administration does not stem from loss of tithe revenue as he's alleging. When will we get these things? 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Iamemma(m): 8:18pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101: What are you even saying? In the Catholic church there are basically two kinds of collections,namely; First collection, for the upkeep of the church Second Collection (optional) collected mainly for a charitable cause e.g collection for orphanage homes,or home for the lepers etc. At the end of the mass,the collections are remitted to the presbytery for onward distribution for the cause it was collected for. Mind you any collection during the mass must be explained by the cathecist Get your facts right next time 3 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Nobody: 8:20pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
OnyeOGA:am sure u didn't know well lemme educate you so dat wen next u point a finger at another person, you know dat 4 others are pointing to you.. https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-pope-has-a-small-but-deadly-army-of-elite-warriors-1733268646 |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by trainingict: 8:23pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Acidosis: I am in the Ministry, I disagree with so many things you got from prosperity teachings which you quoted above. I know money is the vehicle for driving (propagation) gospel. 1 Cor 15 : 19 says if our reward for being in Christ is only in this world, we should be the most pity of all human beings. Shortly before our Lord left this world, he told his followers their reward is in the heaven, from that moment, they stopped following him remaining only the 12 Apostles. Jesus asked them if they want to leave also, but Peter saved the day. He said they have no where to go having lost everything to follow him. Others will quote where he said whatever you lose on this earth for following him you will gain more here & gain more in heaven. It is now a choice, people choose where & want they want in Bible. All those that sacrificed to follow Jesus in his days never got it back in this world. So, a man leaving as GM of Union Bank to answer the call is not expected to continue an executive life. Jesus once told a wealthy man to sell all he has & give to poor as a condition for following him. A widow that gave all she had as offering was never recorded as becoming wealthy afterward. Jesus only recognized her. God has reason for making some rich & some poor, it is not by work, otherwise, people will say it is what I do that attracted the wealth. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Iamemma(m): 8:27pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Acidosis: No institution can thrive without money. What the church ( Catholic) preaches is for people to give by their own free will,the church frowns at its ministers that compel people to give,for Christ did not teach that. 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Iamemma(m): 8:30pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
masseratti: You forgot to add one thing,that most wealthy people upon their deaths wills all their assets to the Catholic church 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by OnyeOGA(m): 8:30pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101: abeg, educate yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Iamemma(m): 8:30pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
masseratti: You forgot to add one thing,that most wealthy people upon their death, wills all their assets to the Catholic church 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by jarrot(m): 8:35pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
CROWNWEALTH019:Nwanne su pu! |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by MISSCONGENIALITY(f): 8:37pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Apina:one of the corporal works of mercy is burying the dead whether baptised of not. My parish took a mad man who use to stay intron of the church to the hospital when he fell sick. They didn't even know his name nor his village. He died 3days later and his remains where deposited at the morgue. My parish priest and other church members were not even allowed to claim the body when they went to claim it and they had to go to court and signed some documents after which they were allowed to carry the man. They buried him. So whether baptised or not we bury the dead. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Smarkie: 8:49pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
My cardinal u shouldn' have replied sycophant and asslicker like bello |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by IAMBlesssed(f): 8:56pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Nawa for Nigerian christians... Why are some people reading deep meaning into what the cardinal said? The thread has now turned to war between Catholics and Pentecostals. We still have a loooong way to go in this country. God help us all.. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Celdanstar: 8:58pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Nor mind the mumu wey dem carry government give even when he nor context, why him nor go dey run mouth. One chance governor. |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by nonut: 9:00pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
masseratti:If you don't understand, I can't be bothered to explain. It simply means you'll never understand even if I try to explain. |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Apina(m): 9:04pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
MISSCONGENIALITY:The priest and parishioners chose to bury him, not the church. If the rites for funeral/burial isn't observed through the celebration of the Holy Mass, and the body brought into the church, as is done for those baptized and in communion with the church, then it cannot be said that the church buried the individual. Hope u understand 3 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by justy15: 9:10pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Yahaya bello is a mistake that will sure be corrected by kogi people come 2019. He is a bad example of a young person in leadership, he thought his sycophantic tendencies will save him . |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by bionixs: 9:14pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Apina:I don't need to argue with you on this .just tell yourself the truth. defending the Catholic church I know and have their top priests as bossom friends, wouldn't mean defending your faith. You want to tell the world and fellow igbo catholics that if a member who owes some levies in church dies that he would be buried without having his relatives offset the bills keep giving wrong information to those who are not aware and have experienced it |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:15pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
salvation101: I just had pizza for dinner. You might as well ask me where eating pizza was sanctioned in the Bible. Might as well ask you too where is crossover night in the Bible. Infact, the Christmas and Easter celebrations you observe or observation of Sundays as Sabbath that you copied from Catholics is where in the Bible? Private jet for pastor, nko? Shey Paul and Peter were cruising around in Gulfstreams, abi? Holy water and stickers and blessed handkerchiefs, nko? Where are all those ones in the Bible? Pastors collecting tithe like Levites, nko? They are directly descended from the tribe of Levi, abi? Even practising Jews today are not paying tithes without an existing Levitical order, but some Pentecostal niggers in Africa dey here dey claim Levites collecting tithes. That one is in the Bible, abi? Collection of cash as tithe, nko? The difference between you and Catholics is they do not claim to unerringly follow every dictate of the Bible in recognizing how faith and culture and human civilization as a whole has evolved over millennia. I would say this is a logical philosophical outlook. You on the other hand claim to be completely biblical institutions, but you consistently contradict this by perpetuating frauds like the manipulation of Biblical texts about tithing and following unbiblical practises. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:19pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
bionixs: This is true. It happens in villages in the East. The church often refuse to participate in weddings, burials etc of people who don't pay levies. Then again, many village priests are clowns. The practice isn't sanctioned by the church and it's unheard of here in Lagos. 3 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by LogicStatement: 9:23pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Acidosis:The point here is not about money but how the money is collected. Catholic church does not threatening members to pay tithe the way Pentecostal churches do. The Pentecostals tell lies about how non tithe payers will go to hell and remain financially doom if they fail to pay, and this is contrary to Christ's teachings. The Catholic church does not pay or enforce tithing but encourages members to give cheerfully- they are NEVER threaten and hence, she is the richest church in the world with the largest number of Christians as members 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Church Doesn’t Run On Tithe– Cardinal Okogie Fires Back At Gov. Bello by bionixs: 9:35pm On Feb 21, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:imagine where the guy quoting me said that all you need to have all your needs met in Catholic is just to be baptized,you never pay a dime |
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