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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:16am On Mar 13, 2018
twinskenny:
65k for borehole yearly?
Lol
There is something about APC & high cost of living
They milk the people through all possible means
Up till date, not even 1kobo has been added to minimum wage
But they keep increasing every other thing affecting the common man....God shouldn't have created blacks...Our skin colour is a reflection of the state of our mind....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:20am On Mar 13, 2018
Rubbiish:

Lol
There is something about APC & high cost of living
They milk the people through all possible means
Up till date, not even 1kobo has been added to minimum wage
But they keep increasing every other thing affecting the common man....God shouldn't have created blacks...Our skin colour is a reflection of the state of our mind....

borehole that i dug with my own money?? how do the do this thingss
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:35am On Mar 13, 2018
twinskenny:
65k for borehole yearly?

The Rivers State Government also came up with such document in its 2nd year in office but later abandoned or denied the document in circulation .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 9:56am On Mar 13, 2018
twinskenny:

borehole that i dug with my own money?? how do the do this thingss
i tire my brother
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BankeSmalls(f): 10:58am On Mar 13, 2018
Rubbiish:

Lol
There is something about APC & high cost of living
They milk the people through all possible means
Up till date, not even 1kobo has been added to minimum wage
But they keep increasing every other thing affecting the common man....God shouldn't have created blacks...Our skin colour is a reflection of the state of our mind....

Please stop talking as if you didn't know GEJ is the cause of this, he sucked all the water from Lagos ground and looted the waters, we are only recovering from the hangover of corruption.

Go and pay that money or we will seize your house grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 11:44am On Mar 13, 2018
BankeSmalls:


Please stop talking as if you didn't know GEJ is the cause of this, he sucked all the water from Lagos ground and looted the waters, we are only recovering from the hangover of corruption.

Go and pay that money or we will seize your house grin
Lols cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 11:50am On Mar 13, 2018
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:57am On Mar 13, 2018
BankeSmalls:


Please stop talking as if you didn't know GEJ is the cause of this, he sucked all the water from Lagos ground and looted the waters, we are only recovering from the hangover of corruption.

Go and pay that money or we will seize your house grin


hehehe
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:55pm On Mar 13, 2018
twinskenny:


borehole that i dug with my own money?? how do the do this thingss

But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long term problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground water which the government have the right to tax you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 2:04pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.
We will soon start paying tax for collecting rain water we store in our drums & well, since it is also natural resources? Na wa for una o...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 2:08pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.
Interesting point from you, l have no problems with tax because it gets deducted from my pay check in the West before I receive my income and I am also entitled to file for income tax depending on several scenarios like family size etc

But I have never complained for once about paying my taxes because it is my civic responsibility which trickles down back to me in the long run but in Nigeria, l am a mini government of myself, I provide my water and also construct the roads that leads to where my property is via community fees, l provide power, poles, wires for my electricity, I provide neighborhood security in collaboration with other home owners for my safety, where is the moral right for the government to demand taxes from me because what they ought to have provided for me which is the basics in every nation l provide all myself.

I agree that l am using the scare resources which the government is entitled to but the same government is morally wrong to collect taxes from me if I provide for myself all the basics they ought to have provided for all citizens, they should learn from saner climes what the duties of governance is all about and the corresponding responsibilities of its citizens.

One of the major importance of governance is the security of lives and properties and if I provide it for myself, then the government has no moral right to collect taxes from me and I can sue them in a competent court and win.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:13pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.

No one is supposed to pay tax for something the government is supposed to provide.
It's not a luxury.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dremca(m): 2:17pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.
Very funny. Very soon, they will start taxing residents for the air they breath since is also a natural resource or is it man made.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 4:30pm On Mar 13, 2018
What a shame
Nigeria government can't provide clean water to it citizens

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 4:32pm On Mar 13, 2018
Dremca:
Very funny. Very soon, they will start taxing residents for the air they breath since is also a natural resource or is it man made.
And guess what ?
We don't see the tax money?
If the taxes are use to provide services for Nigerian
Nigerians will not have problem paying taxes

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:44pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.

I agree with you in totality.

Maybe now neighbors will see the value of a community borehole.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:46pm On Mar 13, 2018
EgunMogaji:


I agree with you in totality.

Maybe now neighbors will see the value of a community borehole.

the problem is that people are not sinking boreholes out of choice, but because the government has failed

i can understand the government taxing commercial boreholes, but taxing domestic boreholes is just abuse of power

i actually see the signs of uncontrolled boreholes - sink holes etal,and i am in agreement on the need for some form of regulation, but the first real step is to provide people with pipeborne water

there is pipe borne water in ikoyi, at least along awolowo road,

people will not be inclined towards community boreholes if the place is not their last bus stop

your average landlord is a greedy mofo, only concerned with rent and unlikely to pay towards a community borehole. your tenant who has aready spent enough money fixing things the landlord didid not handle will not be inclined toward investments he/she would have to abandon eventually

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:55pm On Mar 13, 2018
http://lswrc.lagosstate.gov.ng/

In 2004, the Lagos State Water Regulatory Commission was set up pursuant to S.48 of the Lagos Stage Water Sector Law (LSWSL) 2004 to protect the long term interests of consumers with regard to the quality, price and reliability of services received from service providers whether government owned or private and also to approve, review standards of performance of services and ensure the functions of water supply and sewage services are properly carried out.

A significant percentage of the residents of Lagos rely majorly on boreholes for their daily supply of water for one form of domestic use or the other and some of these boreholes unknown to them are not properly drilled making it susceptible to seepage and all other forms of surface contaminants.

Most of these wide spread illegal boreholes have serious implication for the residents and the environment and as such the Commission’s determination to curb the increase in water borne diseases associated with such shoddily drilled boreholes and the attendant implication on the State finances by sanitising the State water and waste water sector.

the double talk is out of this world.what is even worse is that in the end, this will be alike all the other agencies, a gang of tax collectors with no real concern about the environment. i just met one such joker today. fat bloated official demanding cash for 'approval'
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:00pm On Mar 13, 2018
Miller1:
Good evening everyone.
Pls i got this quotation from an engineer as the estimate for taking this building (plan attached)
to DPC level of 5 coach block work and german floor.
i feel the cost is on the high side. i need your professional opinions on this. To know if the prices
and quantity materials are reasonable.
The location is Asaba. and the land is a not swampy. dry table land

The labour and supervision fees can be argued to be high. Can you do something there?

The granite won't be enough.

I doubt if the laterite will be enough. Mind you, it's five "coaches" high, so needs backfilling as well.

Water The most important element is missing. Have you done borehole? If not, wahala dey o.

If you're home to see the project through, don't worry about quantity of materials. Any surplus you keep, any shortfall, you replenish.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:00pm On Mar 13, 2018
oyb:


the problem is that people are not sinking boreholes out of choice, but because the government has failed

i can understand the government taxing commercial boreholes, but taxing domestic boreholes is just abuse of power

i actually see the signs of uncontrolled boreholes - sink holes etal,and i am in agreement on the need for some form of regulation, but the first real step is to provide people with pipeborne water

there is pipe borne water in ikoyi, at least along awolowo road,

people will not be inclined towards community boreholes if the place is not their last bus stop

your average landlord is a greedy mofo, only concerned with rent and unlikely to pay towards a community borehole. your tenant who has aready spent enough money fixing things the landlord didid not handle will not be inclined toward investments he/she would have to abandon eventually

I also agree with you, Sir, and also in totality.

Rounds of refreshments for everyone then grin Well, except for the demeanors angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Miller1: 6:02pm On Mar 13, 2018
yes the quote includes the german floor
bixton:


Does this quote really go as far as completing the german floor or it just stops at the 5 course level?
I am just curious about the usage of the 10 ton granite plant level fill; is it the same as water level fill to achieve that purpose?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:09pm On Mar 13, 2018
twinskenny:
what is this from lagos state government

Contact Us

The Secretariat Complex Block 19, 3rd Floor, Alausa, Ikeja, Lagos State. 07080601951-2, 08084440166, 08031230278

just in case it is a scam. . .

because some of those figures make no sense

where does metering come into having a licensed borehole?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Miller1: 6:09pm On Mar 13, 2018
yes i hv an existing bore hole so water aint an issue. i also intend to be around
diordaves:


The labour and supervision fees can be argued to be high. Can you do something there?

The granite won't be enough.

I doubt if the laterite will be enough. Mind you, it's five "coaches" high, so needs backfilling as well.

Water The most important element is missing. Have you done borehole? If not, wahala dey o.

If you're home to see the project through, don't worry about quantity of materials. Any surplus you keep, any shortfall, you replenish.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nwaorlu: 6:11pm On Mar 13, 2018
I don't like to talk about politics but since this is about property tax (land use tax), I will chip in my 2 kobo.

The government should be careful what they wish for. Collecting taxes from people is the easiest way of engaging the people. For so long, people don't feel that the people in government embezzling money, is stealing their money (that has been the attitude). The problem with many third world countries is, they don't pay taxes. Not paying taxes is equal to the same as you don't have vested interest. When you start taking money from people's pocket, questions would be asked. If care is not taken, revolution would follow.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 7:06pm On Mar 13, 2018
GoodFaith:

And guess what ?
We don't see the tax money?
If the taxes are use to provide services for Nigerian
Nigerians will not have problem paying taxes
Exactly, you took the words out of my mouth, documents all the citizens of the federal Republic of Nigeria via national identity card or SIN, provide the basics, good roads, power supply even if it is for 12hours daily, provide adequate security and effective / efficient ambulance services incase of emergency, let the citizens have access to basic primary health care, once you do that, go ahead and tax my income monthly or biweekly, I am cool but if I provide everything myself, I will not pay a nickel, on a lighter note, are you sure the taxes will not be swallowed by a cow, goat or serpent?, tongue
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 7:22pm On Mar 13, 2018
AngelicBeing:
Exactly, you took the words out of my mouth, documents all the citizens of the federal Republic of Nigeria via national identity card or SIN, provide the basics, good roads, power supply even if it is for 12hours daily, provide adequate security and effective / efficient ambulance services incase of emergency, let the citizens have access to basic primary health care, once you do that, go ahead and tax my income monthly or biweekly, I am cool but if I provide everything myself, I will not pay a nickel, on a lighter note, are you sure the taxes will not be swallowed by a cow, goat or serpent?, tongue

My brother in Nigeria Taxes doesn't equal services
I left home in1987 Lagos to Benin has only one tollgate the road was better
than Five later on my visit there was three or four tollgate the road was hell
So what happen to the money from the tollgate

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:39pm On Mar 13, 2018
Rubbiish:

We will soon start paying tax for collecting rain water we store in our drums & well, since it is also natural resources? Na wa for una o...
you forgot to include tax for the air we breathe. we are depleting the polluted air in the atmosphere.
I already sight a controversial person from the politics section.
This thread is about to be lit.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:45pm On Mar 13, 2018
abdulwastecx:


But look at it from a different perspective, the water you are tapping from below the ground is a natural resources that belongs to the state.

Your drilling activity can cause long time problem such as earth movement etc. In reality, you actually using up a very scarce resources called underground which the government have the right to tax you.


water belong to God lol.. but before they ask me to pay tax.. they should provide the water in the first instance.. this is part of basic thing the government should provide
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 8:13pm On Mar 13, 2018
GoodFaith:


My brother in Nigeria Taxes doesn't equal services
I left home in1987 Lagos to Benin has only one tollgate the road was better
than Five later on my visit there was three or four tollgate the road was hell
So what happen to the money from the tollgate
Hahaha, do you know that Anenih aka Mr Fix swallowed billions of naira when he was minister of Works and housing, Benin / Ore road was captured in the budget but the money ended up in private pockets, there was even an allegation that 350 billion Naira was wasted during Anenihs era, Abeg make we leave matter grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dremca(m): 10:49pm On Mar 13, 2018
AngelicBeing:
Exactly, you took the words out of my mouth, documents all the citizens of the federal Republic of Nigeria via national identity card or SIN, provide the basics, good roads, power supply even if it is for 12hours daily, provide adequate security and effective / efficient ambulance services incase of emergency, let the citizens have access to basic primary health care, once you do that, go ahead and tax my income monthly or biweekly, I am cool but if I provide everything myself, I will not pay a nickel, on a lighter note, are you sure the taxes will not be swallowed by a cow, goat or serpent?, tongue
Example, UK earn through tax but still far better than Nigeria. Give me basic amenities and tax me, I will gladly pay.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinolaolujide(m): 10:56pm On Mar 13, 2018
bixton:
Good Morning. Please I need expert opinion(s) on resolving ventilation issue in the lounge section.
The ventilation is theoretically okay you can improve it by making the Windows longer and having high level Windows that are openable above the windows.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:57pm On Mar 13, 2018
So what comes first, the chicken or the egg? wink

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