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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:40pm On Mar 20, 2018
EgunMogaji:
I have a simple question.

Why are you folks building your own house instead of buying an existing one?

Most sell at a price you can't add value and sell on to make profit for yourself.

I will buy a property with potential and good location if the price is right.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by krak101(m): 7:01pm On Mar 20, 2018
Good day. Pls somebody should help me with a reliable and affordable land surveyor in Abuja. Plus how much will it cost to survey an area of 100x100ft (an estimate). Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:15pm On Mar 20, 2018
rabcnesbit:


Thank you. I take it the #200 per sqm for laying the interlocking stone is just for labour, and the #2500 - #3000 per sqm for the stamped concrete includes labour and materials?

Yes.
You're welcome.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by earthrealm(m): 8:07pm On Mar 20, 2018
GoodFaith:

Dude , I am cheap I don't like to spend the money
but sometime, there are thing I want and I will go all the way
I have projects all over me

what you want is actually simple, i have seen it in action in VI,
An ordinary sumo pump pumps water to an underground tank, another pump then takes it 3 storeys up to the small 300l to 500l presure tank with float valves, so the pump kicks in oce there is a pressure drop upto a certain preset value.

in your case, you can make it simpler,
by removing the underground tank..and using a surface tank.the main koko is that you need 24/7 electricity to power the pumps...thus you need solar panels+inverter to ensure 24/7 electricity for the pumps...then you can also do well by buying energy saving/solar friendly pumps....

hv you considered rooftop tank placement?..its a little more easy on the eyes than the external 30ft tank stands.....i hate em too!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 8:13pm On Mar 20, 2018
Daboomb:


These sort of Vertical cracks are usually the result of "ground settlement" that affect the Foundation when such foundation is not done properly in terms of depth, thickness, strength of materials (Granite/Cement/Sand mix ratio), inadequate reinforcement/iron.

As the foundatin settles, due to the weight on it (or ground movements from nearby), the raft/pad/blinding is probably breaking apart and the sheer forces are being transmitted to the block work.
Result is that if there are no "columns firmly tied to Beams" which can "break" the transmission of such forces to the blocks, it will simply start to crack like Biscuits!
(I have ssen it a few times so l am speaking from experience).

I feel very sad to say this:
It will cost you more to try and rectify this problem because it is a "foundational problem" that wont ever go-away. (I bet your soil is poor even though l have not seen it properly). There is ground movement going on (Is someone building a bigger house with very sound foundations, within 250ft radius of you? Take a look around. They are not the cause of your problem just that such buildings do 'settle' and push ground away to other areas as they 'sink to their settlment point' so that nearby buildings with poor foundations will start 'feeling the heat'. )

If you have the wherewithal, (if and only if), you need to count your loses, pull this building down, remove the broken blocks, dig a one feet down into the ground and do a thick, inverted-T raft foundation to about three/four planks (to cater for future settlement/sinking) and ensure that builders dont cut-corners on the mix-ratios and the reinforcemnt.

This is one expensive mistake the builders have caused for you.
My sincere sympathy.

I thank God for providing me that Engr that helped choose a plinth beam for my foundation even when I could just have done a strip. Any nearby movt or road construction or clay-laterite settlement no concern me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:27pm On Mar 20, 2018
GoodFaith:


What do I need to do to achieve 4 ft stand
Is there anything I can install to supply water on demand?
Regardless of of the stand
I am trying to do the 4ft stand to manage my risk for the future with high water stand

You will get a high powered automated surface pump that comes in operation whenever a tap head is opened in any part of the building. It requires steady power source at all times to be effective.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:42pm On Mar 20, 2018
ceelog:


I thank God for providing me that Engr that helped choose a plinth beam for my foundation even when I could just have done a strip. Any nearby movt or road construction or clay-laterite settlement no concern me.

Any way other than this is a shortcut.

One can try to explain it away but the reality is that it’s still a shortcut.

Congrats.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 9:12pm On Mar 20, 2018
ceelog:


I thank God for providing me that Engr that helped choose a plinth beam for my foundation even when I could just have done a strip. Any nearby movt or road construction or clay-laterite settlement no concern me.

Happy for you.


Initially, it may look like a waste of money but in the long run, what you are paying for is "rest of mind".
Because the foundation is not something you cant easily scrap, even if you have the money to do another one, (you will have to scrap everything built on it as well shocked shocked ), l always advice that any DIY builder or even one that employs a semi-skilled Builder, should take their time to do a good foundation, even if that is all you can do for now.

Then come back later to raise the blockwork, which is the easiet part of building.

But seriously, we need to start holding the Builder/Engineer responsible, of they do a shoddy foundation that results in cracks or collapse (God forbid). If you are paid to do a 'professional job', then you should do it and be held liable, if shyte happens.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 9:15pm On Mar 20, 2018
EgunMogaji:
I have a simple question.

Why are you folks building your own house instead of buying an existing one?


Very simple kwesion!

Why are YOU building your own house, instead of just buying one at Ibadan (I know you got loads of Benjamins so affordability wont be an issue)

Ok, Tell us. undecided undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Shegman22(m): 9:24pm On Mar 20, 2018
rabcnesbit:
My peeps, peace and good health be unto you. Does any one have experience/tips/advice regarding stamp concrete (polished and unpolished0 of a compound floor? And is it far more expensive than just concrete flooring or interlocking? Thank you
Benefits of Using Interlocking Pavers
The benefits of Interlocking Concrete Pavers versus other paving solutions are numerous:
A large variety of paving styles
Multitude of color possibilities
Create your own design
Low cost, low maintenance
30 year + life expectancy
No cracking
3 times stronger than poured concrete
Pavers move with soil conditions

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:31pm On Mar 20, 2018
Shegman22:
Benefits of Using Interlocking Pavers
The benefits of Interlocking Concrete Pavers versus other paving solutions are numerous:
A large variety of paving styles
Multitude of color possibilities
Create your own design
Low cost, low maintenance
30 year + life expectancy
No cracking
3 times stronger than poured concrete
Pavers move with soil conditions

3 times stronger than poured cement?

How?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:53pm On Mar 20, 2018
Shegman22:
Benefits of Using Interlocking Pavers
The benefits of Interlocking Concrete Pavers versus other paving solutions are numerous:
A large variety of paving styles
Multitude of color possibilities
Create your own design
Low cost, low maintenance
30 year + life expectancy
No cracking
3 times stronger than poured concrete
Pavers move with soil conditions

There's stamp concrete and patterned concrete.
Please which are you talking about and can you back up the 3X strength
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Shegman22(m): 9:59pm On Mar 20, 2018
EgunMogaji:


3 times stronger than poured cement?

How?
Interlock Pavers are strong and last. Few things are unconditionally guaranteed; however, i can tell you that am 100% sure that concrete will crack after few months of casting. Pavers are rated as 3 times stronger than concrete and as such can hold 3 times as much weight as concrete without cracking. Pavers last longer than poured concrete and hold their color better than stamped concrete.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 10:00pm On Mar 20, 2018
EgunMogaji:
I have a simple question.

Why are you folks building your own house instead of buying an existing one?

It seemed the thing to do - buy land, build house. However, my experience so far as a Nigerian diaspora building remotely through a third party, it is something I will never do again ever. It is stressful, time-consuming and turning out to be more expensive. Unless you can be there on site to oversee your building project, I will suggest it is better (and possibly cheaper in some cases) in the long run to just buy ready built.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:01pm On Mar 20, 2018
A 720.32 sqm land for sale in Alakahia (close to uniport), Rivers State. Survey plan, gated land with fence.
All for #8M.
If interested, PM me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:06pm On Mar 20, 2018
Shegman22:
Interlock Pavers are strong and last. Few things are unconditionally guaranteed; however, i can tell you that am 100% sure that concrete will crack after few months of casting. Pavers are rated as 3 times stronger than concrete and as such can hold 3 times as much weight as concrete without cracking. Pavers last longer than poured concrete and hold their color better than stamped concrete.

Can it be argued that pavers don’t break because the present a smaller surface for forces to act upon?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rabcnesbit: 10:28pm On Mar 20, 2018
On the continuing subject of compound flooring, found the below on another Nairaland forum thread. Any thoughts?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 10:29pm On Mar 20, 2018
Shegman22:
Benefits of Using Interlocking Pavers
The benefits of Interlocking Concrete Pavers versus other paving solutions are numerous:
A large variety of paving styles
Multitude of color possibilities
Create your own design
Low cost, low maintenance
30 year + life expectancy
No cracking
3 times stronger than poured concrete
Pavers move with soil conditions
I disagree 100%

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:41pm On Mar 20, 2018
rabcnesbit:
On the continuing subject of compound flooring, found the below on another Nairaland forum thread. Any thoughts?


Mine is at the bottom.

Jury is still out for me. There is an area in front of the main entrance that has to be perfect. I think only interlocking can give me what I need.

(Oya eyin monitoring spirit make una take over grin )

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 11:17pm On Mar 20, 2018
Daboomb:



Very simple kwesion!

Why are YOU building your own house, instead of just buying one at Ibadan (I know you got loads of Benjamins so affordability wont be an issue)

Ok, Tell us. undecided undecided
grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 11:39pm On Mar 20, 2018
Baba please position "OUR" flag properly or was that picture taken backwards?. Dont let me report you to Orange president grin


EgunMogaji:


I’ll never fly a US flag outdoors in Nigeria grin

I was born at night but not last night.

It’s my Nigerian flag that’s outside.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 11:41pm On Mar 20, 2018
These are blocks we are using in one of my ongoing building projects, Can you guess why these blocks are darker in colour? Are they stronger than the conventional blocks which look whiter? What's the reason for the dark look? Lets discuss.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:12am On Mar 21, 2018
spyder880:
These are blocks we are using in one of my ongoing building projects, Can you guess why these blocks are darker in colour? Are they stronger than the conventional blocks which look whiter? What's the reason for the dark look? Lets discuss.

Boss, you added coloring?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:15am On Mar 21, 2018
Ladies, what is the sermon for today? Yesterday was “humble”.

I need to kill time before I have to go and park on the freeway for the evening commute home angry

(To add building content, I think 6” blocks are okay for soapboxes, 9” will be overkill) grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Cjrane2: 1:56am On Mar 21, 2018
spyder880:
These are blocks we are using in one of my ongoing building projects, Can you guess why these blocks are darker in colour? Are they stronger than the conventional blocks which look whiter? What's the reason for the dark look? Lets discuss.
They are made from clay?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:14am On Mar 21, 2018
true2home:
Baba please position "OUR" flag properly or was that picture taken backwards?. Dont let me report you to Orange president grin


Good observation, Sir.

It was done purposefully to actually protest The Orange President wink

It will stay that way until Mueller gets him out.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:36am On Mar 21, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Good observation, Sir.

It was done purposefully to actually protest The Orange President wink

It will stay that way until Mueller gets him out.

i have been following that sordid mess and it seems that the 45 will do anything and get away with it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 6:12am On Mar 21, 2018
spyder880:
These are blocks we are using in one of my ongoing building projects, Can you guess why these blocks are darker in colour? Are they stronger than the conventional blocks which look whiter? What's the reason for the dark look? Lets discuss.
Is perhaps a product of black stonedust or charcoal is added to it..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by WorldAmbassador: 6:19am On Mar 21, 2018
spyder880:
These are blocks we are using in one of my ongoing building projects, Can you guess why these blocks are darker in colour? Are they stronger than the conventional blocks which look whiter? What's the reason for the dark look? Lets discuss.

@spyder880. Stonedust used instead of sand?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 6:33am On Mar 21, 2018
Daboomb:


Happy for you.


Initially, it may look like a waste of money but in the long run, what you are paying for is "rest of mind".
Because the foundation is not something you can easily scrap, even if you have the money to do another one, (you will have to scrap everything built on it as well shocked shocked ), l always advice that any DIY builder or even one that employs a semi-skilled Builder, should take their time to do a good foundation, even if that is all you can do for now.

Then come back later to raise the blockwork, which is the easiet part of building.

But seriously, we need to start holding the Builder/Engineer responsible, of they do a shoddy foundation that results in cracks or collapse (God forbid). If you are paid to do a 'professional job', then you should do it and be held liable, if shyte happens.

Ironically, I spent less (nearly 100k less) in this plinth beam foundation compared to the 5 to 6 coaches strip and block foundation initially proposed. Even the NL Engr was impressed with the cost difference.
I hope when the Engr decides to showcase the build, he will explain better.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:43am On Mar 21, 2018
EgunMogaji:


Boss, you added coloring?
Cjrane2:

They are made from clay?
Chekitaut:
Is perhaps a product of black stonedust or charcoal is added to it..
WorldAmbassador:


@spyder880. Stonedust used instead of sand?

This is colouring my people, I was fooled by the colour and even thought it to be of a better quality until I traced the block to the production point and asked questions. What they do is to go to where tyres are burnt, gather the black soot with dust and mix with sand and cement. The block comes out darker, leaving one with the impression that they are of higher strength. Meanwhile, Enugu seldom uses stone dust to make blocks, very rare.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:05am On Mar 21, 2018
ceelog:


Ironically, I spent less (nearly 100k less) in this plinth beam foundation compared to the 5 to 6 coaches strip and block foundation initially proposed. Even the NL Engr was impressed with the cost difference.
I hope when the Engr decides to showcase the build, he will explain better.

Well done.

It's always good to save money. You can then use that money in other areas of the build.

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