lionel4power:


d tin dey pain me nah!! Haba see cute picture of Aradu gracing the wall as if its still alive.

bidex111:
NAF SF TRAINING IN PAKISTAN

Odunayaw:
I concur

Furthermore,
-Sloping of the bonnet for better visibility
- better shaping for the mudguards (that area above the tyres)
-Lose the overhead lamp(makes the ARA look ugly)
- better shape(for aesthetics) as the ARA is looking too "boxed"

And someone paint this thing desert brown!!!

bidex111:
NAF SF TRAINING IN PAKISTAN

jakeporeshenko:

This is King Abdullah II Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC) in Jordan

bidex111:



I thought it was Pakistan. So we have military personnel that has trained in Jordan.

Nice search jake.

Josfactz:
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bidex111:



I thought it was Pakistan. So we have military personnel that has trained in Jordan.

Nice search jake.

jakeporeshenko:


-The lamps weren’t in the first prototype that means NA requisted them so they are probably important.

And yes paint that thing desert brown! Proforce has a desert pattern but it’s a bit too bright.

lionel4power:


instead of we should pick one country and train with them we're training with every country in the world.

Standardization! Standardization!! Standardization!!!

we think we're been smart... shooting ourselves on the foot.

I can count 20 countries we conduct training with... why for??

who even told us to do things this way

If it's not Pakistan, it'll be Jordan or Israel or UK or Russia. what is wrong with this people.

Every day different style of training, different equipment, different doctrine, different combat mentality.

before you quote me please think properly..... because training with more than 10 different countries DOES NOT HAVE ANY BENEFIT in my own opinion.

It doesn't make you better, it just makes you confused and disorganized.


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Nigerian military gives me heartburns all the time.

jakeporeshenko:

This is King Abdullah II Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC) in Jordan

Odunayaw:
I think once & for all MOD/DHQ should create a unified training centre for CT ops (Anti hijack ;train,bus,plane) for all tri-service special teams & police too. Strictly CT!

jakeporeshenko:

Where would you site a facility like that ?

Most of the situations faced by the armed forces aren’t urban, let the police focus on that (anti hijack; trains buses and planes)
We also need a police unit to stop kidnappings and handle hostage crisis.

Odunayaw:
What 20 countries? Hallucinations?

In spec-ops terrain no particular country has it all and neither do all part with their knowledge
We both know the NAF special teams are relatively new. It is very necessary in their formative years (5-10years) they train & get operational experience from wherever and then come home to HARMONIZE to create a training pipeline.
If the Jordanians do not have pedigree at imparting irregular warfare skills should we stick to them in the name of "we no wan de waka about"? or stick to Pakistan with no facility for tubular assault?
God forbid!

For example, no where in Nigeria(and largely a lot of our "friends" would you get access to the quality training infrastructure the Jordanians have.
So we learn,refine,replicate that's all
Exactly Bro even the US and Uk have trained in Nigeria and Thailand, SF is most definitely learn from other Countries as they learn from US.
The King of Jordan met with PMB and High level Military officials met which meant overseas training was made available. It would be silly to say " No we want to Standardize" If we look at what is happening in Egypt they are struggling to move fast i.e. from conventional to SF despite all the aid. Palaver is in the Sinai, No country knows it all. The US trained in the Niger Delta and Ghana , I am pretty sure they have their own SOP on SF.
Time was we had a President who was considering cutting the size of the ARMED FORCES ( OBJ)

We are even lucky we are seeing pictures of them

jakeporeshenko:

Where would you site a facility like that ?

Most of the situations faced by the armed forces aren’t urban, let the police focus on that (anti hijack; trains buses and planes)
We also need a police unit to stop kidnappings and handle hostage crisis.

LTGEN:

1)Badagry
2) Bida
3)Lokoja
4) Camp 5
5) Any of the Sparsely inhabited islands off the coast of Nigeria ( less Human contact the better)

Odunayaw:
What 20 countries? Hallucinations?

In spec-ops terrain no particular country has it all and neither do all part with their knowledge
We both know the NAF special teams are relatively new. It is very necessary in their formative years (5-10years) they train & get operational experience from wherever and then come home to HARMONIZE to create a training pipeline.
If the Jordanians do not have pedigree at imparting irregular warfare skills should we stick to them in the name of "we no wan de waka about"? or stick to Pakistan with no facility for tubular assault?
God forbid!

For example, no where in Nigeria(and largely a lot of our "friends" would you get access to the quality training infrastructure the Jordanians have.
So we learn,refine,replicate that's all

We are even lucky we are seeing pictures of them

LTGEN:

1)Badagry
2) Bida
3)Lokoja
4) Camp 5
5) Any of the Sparsely inhabited islands off the coast of Nigeria ( less Human contact the better)

jakeporeshenko:


Lokoja? For why, you only justified the last one

peterphd:


Where's camp5?

peterphd:


Where's camp5?

lionel4power:



In spec-ops terrain no particular country has it all and neither do all part with their knowledge
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There is nothing new under the sun. Special Operations has been around since 1943. There's no hidden knowledge. What Jordan knows, US knows too and so does Russia, Israel, Egypt, Brazil etc

just study your home soil and adapt to suit your combat model.

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get operational experience from wherever.

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Jordan fights like Jordanian, Israel fights like Israelis, South Africa fights like South Africans.

Nigeria should fight like Nigerians.
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home to HARMONIZE to create a training pipeline.


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we've been training with foreigners since time immemorial.

when do we "Harmonize" this trainings When??
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If the Jordanians do not have pedigree at imparting irregular warfare skills should we stick to them in the name of "we no wan de waka about"?


so we should simply start sampling all countries fighting skills till eternity??

changing trainers from one continent to another??
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For example, no where in Nigeria(and largely a lot of our "friends" would you get access to the quality training infrastructure the Jordanians have.

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who trains the US Military??
what is "quality training facility?".... why don't we build ours to gain this capability?
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we learn,refine,replicate that's all



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what have we learnt so far?
Boko Haram is still undefeated for six years plus now.
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what we see here is typical of problems plaquing the Nigerian Military.

lack of foresight and standardization.

hope you realize that Jordan has their own fighting doctrine and so does Pakistan, Russia etc. when they all come back and go to warfront together how do you synergies all this differently trained soldiers??
Respectfully i beg to differ other Countries are coming to Nigeria as we speak to mine our own SOF ops
You don't standardize your SOFs for your SFs I am not trolling you every situation is very different from the last ops and this might result in needless fatalities because you are stuck in " Let us do it by the book syndrome" A Nigerian SOF Operator would of told the US SFS OP right from the get- go they were walking into an AMBUSH right from the get -go because they ( The Nigerians have been in that situation) they also would of told them the planes would not arrive in time again because they have been there, being surrounded by an overwhelming force is nothing new to SFs and it renders your tech equipment virtually useless, so no sir based on recent events Countries can learn from other countries No country has a monopoly on asymmetric warfare.
Fair enough while you at it also ask
why Russia hasn't completed the job in Syria
why America has given up on half of Afghanistan.
BH is in the sliver of land between no- man's land of CHAD /NIGER/ NIGERIA and the MANDARA MTS
that is it and attacks soft targets , and unless you want Nigeria to become a totally repressed state these incidents will still happen in NO- MAN'S LANDS

lionel4power:



In spec-ops terrain no particular country has it all and neither do all part with their knowledge
--------------------------------
There is nothing new under the sun. Special Operations has been around since 1943. There's no hidden knowledge. What Jordan knows, US knows too and so does Russia, Israel, Egypt, Brazil etc

just study your home soil and adapt to suit your combat model.

--------------------------------------
get operational experience from wherever.

.
Jordan fights like Jordanian, Israel fights like Israelis, South Africa fights like South Africans.

Nigeria should fight like Nigerians.
---------------------------------------------------
home to HARMONIZE to create a training pipeline.


.
we've been training with foreigners since time immemorial.

when do we "Harmonize" this trainings When??
------------------------------------------------
If the Jordanians do not have pedigree at imparting irregular warfare skills should we stick to them in the name of "we no wan de waka about"?


so we should simply start sampling all countries fighting skills till eternity??

changing trainers from one continent to another??
-------------------------------------

For example, no where in Nigeria(and largely a lot of our "friends" would you get access to the quality training infrastructure the Jordanians have.

.
who trains the US Military??
what is "quality training facility?".... why don't we build ours to gain this capability?
----------------------------------
we learn,refine,replicate that's all



.
what have we learnt so far?
Boko Haram is still undefeated for six years plus now.
---------------------------------



what we see here is typical of problems plaquing the Nigerian Military.

lack of foresight and standardization.

hope you realize that Jordan has their own fighting doctrine and so does Pakistan, Russia etc. when they all come back and go to warfront together how do you synergies all this differently trained soldiers??