LEOSIRSIR:
I do welcome them because their teaching of the word of God is so deep and understanding
But they can talk hen

Riofidelio:
Jesus is surely one of God's Sons but what differentiates Him from others is that He is the first of His kind.

Riofidelio:
It's not a matter of insults or abuses, if you raise a question and asked for opinions everyone who have Faith will contribute. But if you don't want any contrary opinion just signify by saying i don't want so so and so to be part of the discuss that's all. Please pick any Bible of your choice and read Genesis 6:1-3 or Job 1:1-8 or Psalms 82:1/6 you'll notice that there are many called God's son and God! Jesus is surely one of God's Sons but what differentiates Him from others is that He is the first of His kind to be created.Proverbs 8:22-30 Collssians 1:15, 1 Corinthians 15:27}

Riofidelio:
Thanks so much i just love your comment jare! Of course we can talk like our founder, His name is Jesus He said we'll talk much because of so many information in our minds that we feel like downloading for others to learn. Luke 6:45!

LEOSIRSIR:
I do welcome them because their teaching of the word of God is so deep and understanding
But they can talk hen

brocab:
Sorry I must of missed that, I didn't see the insults, nor do I see the abuse, all I see is someone witnessing to help save a life, and it's yours.
"No Jesus is the only one of His kind, every man woman and Child are sinners.
The last time I have read the bible it teaches that Jesus was not created but was rather the Creator.“In [Jesus Christ] all things were created: all things have been created through him and for him” {Colossians 1:16}
The doctrine of the eternality of Christ is one of the distinguishing marks of biblical Christianity.
The early creeds of the church unequivocally teach that Jesus was not created but that He is an eternally divine Person, the Son of God.
Muslims teach that Jesus was a virgin born human prophet, but came into existence just like everyyone else.
Mormons, who adhere to a modern-day form of Arianism, believe that Jesus had a beginning, just as God the Father had a beginning.
Jehovah’s Witnesses say that Jesus was the first creation of Jehovah and was originally called Michael the archangel.
So on which side of the creator/creature divide does Jesus actually fall? Is Jesus a creature, and thus part of the created order, or is He, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, the Creator of all created things?
Jesus’ disciples were equally clear in their belief in Jesus’ deity and uncreated nature. John tells us that “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God” {John 1:1}
After having encountered the risen Jesus, the apostle Thomas exclaimed to Him, “My Lord and my God!” {John 20:28} The apostle Paul referred to Christ as “God over all” {Romans 9:5} and stated that “in [Christ] the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily” {Colossians 2:9}
In the early days of the church, Jesus was both the object of prayer {Acts 7:59} and the One in whose name the forgiveness of sins was proclaimed {Acts 2:38, 10:43}
Jesus, God the Son, was not created. He has always existed; Before Abraham I am {John 5:58} He has no beginning or end. The Son took on human flesh at a particular point in human history {John 1:14}
Christians refer to this event as the Incarnation (“the act of being made flesh”)
This act was integral to our salvation {Galatians 4:4–5, 2 Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 9:22}
From the Incarnation onward, the eternal, uncreated Son is both truly God and truly man.
But there was never a time when the Son did not exist. He was never created. Jesus always was and will forever remain “our great God and Savior” {Titus 2:13}
Does your bible agree, or are you reading another?

Riofidelio:
Jesus Himself said not just calling Lord Lord but doing God's will, and what is God's will? Well simply quoted it's the ability to Master Jesus' commands!

Riofidelio:
It's because you've not been attentive humbly that's why you think John 3:16 is not common with JWs! Jesus Himself said not just calling Lord Lord but doing God's will, and what is God's will? Well simply quoted it's the ability to Master Jesus' commands! It's not just simply saying "Jesus is Lord" but proving so with all that you do. Whatever you notice that JWs are often striving to do is exactly what Jesus commanded so we're not just slogan criers who often say "Jesus is Lord" by mouth but "doers as in practicers of what Jesus commanded!"

brocab:
Joseph Smith was you founder..Your archangel Jesus had nothing to do with the watchtower.

Riofidelio:
That's what i'm saying "you want to save my life" so you need to listen ATTENTIVELY when i'm expressing myself and know how to convince me to switch from the former understanding to the "better" one you're trying to give. You know that i already have a belief and i'm convinced that my belief is in Jesus the same you claim to believe
Therefore it takes an expert "fisherman" to catch a swift fish! That's why Jesus called those adequately competent and completely equipped(2Timothy 3:17)ones following Him "fishers of men". Please i was taught to believe that Jesus was CREATED because proverbs 8:22 said "God created a master workman as HIS first work" The controversial verse John 1:1 is rendered "in the Beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God" (KJV) Many other translations said "the word was Godlike" or "the word was a god" Exodus 7:1 says God made Moses God and Aaron to serve as a prophet of Moses(God) Of course if Israelites could know the tomb of Moses with all that's bestowed on him Moses would have become a God to Israelites till today! God made Jesus God for a purpose just the same way HE made Moses God but Christians knew better than Israelites today that someone is above, greater, superior, existed before Jesus! 1Corinthians 15:26-28

Riofidelio:
"brocab" if you're truly interested in helping people spiritually, why not go straight to the difference between what they're DOING or PRACTICING as forms of worship to what Jesus instituted? Joseph or Will Smith doesn't matter now, because whatever you are building upon today starts somewhere. What matters is how well you're able to Master and PRACTICE what Jesus commanded! If you know Jesus, it's not merely saying the slogans but let onlookers acknowledge that there is a similarity between what Jesus did and what you're doing.Please those in Antioch notice something before they called them Christians!

brocab:
Joseph Smith was you founder..Your archangel Jesus had nothing to do with the watchtower.

brocab:
Well your Jesus is the archangel, my Jesus is the Son of God..

brocab:
Listen Riofidelio: you want good advise, If you are truly searching for the truth, read the KJ bible, I have found this bible is one of the most truthful bibles, that is ever written concerning the Word of God.
If you are serious, forget about everything, ask the Lord to guide your way in studying, ask the Lord to open up your eye's, allowing Him to show you through the Holy Spirit to open up the depths the heights and the widths concerning the scriptures.
Jesus told His Disciples He will send them a helper, to show them the way.
And if you truly believe in the scriptures-then read:{John 14:25-26} All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.
Jesus wasn't joking, when He sent His Spirit, to us, you haven't the understanding now, but if you are serious about finding the truth, you will find the Lord..

Riofidelio:
I want you to know One thing today! The Spirit to participate in Biblical topics rests on just one organization worldwide, they're the only people having time for Bible discuss because of the abundance of what's in their hearts, they've dedicated their lives to public declaration of God's word and ever ready to share with anyone. It's the Jehovah's witnesses! Others may at first join the discussion but since there's nothing they could contribute they'll switch off,why? Because they never dedicated there lives to that course, their leaders only taught them how to pursue materialism! So If you're looking for contributions during biblical discuss it's only Jehovah's witnesses that will join and stay because that's our life. Remember that comment? "They can talk hen!" Please don't try it with others whenever a discussion is not based on gossips,entertainment,sport,romance,politics and stuffs like that but Bible NOBODY apart from Jehovah's witnesses will have your time!

Riofidelio:
Perhaps you need to know why it's called the King James Authorised Version! Those who compiled it did so to instill fear in the minds of others who could try going for research to know the truth, many were killed before the English translation of the Bible until James the King of England insisted that God's word be translated into his language, the committee were frustrated so made him signed that no other English translation be made, they manipulated the translation and James made a decree that whoever tries to investigate their translation must be executed, that's why it's called the King James Authorised Version,but honesthearted ones keep reading and noticing some confusion. That's why each person started going to translate the Bible but that's not possible under the rule of England, God made America the world power today because they supported "freedom of expression" leading to discoveries that the KJV's translation was manipulated!

brocab:
Listen Riofidelio: you want good advise, If you are truly searching for the truth, read the KJ bible, I have found this bible is one of the most truthful bibles, that is ever written concerning the Word of God.
If you are serious, forget about everything, ask the Lord to guide your way in studying, ask the Lord to open up your eye's, allowing Him to show you through the Holy Spirit to open up the depths the heights and the widths concerning the scriptures.
Jesus told His Disciples He will send them a helper, to show them the way.
And if you truly believe in the scriptures-then read:{John 14:25-26} All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have told you.
Jesus wasn't joking, when He sent His Spirit, to us, you haven't the understanding now, but if you are serious about finding the truth, you will find the Lord..

Riofidelio:
If you want to know the truth then you must search through many translations of the Bible.Proverbs 2:4 The translators have special interest in helping people to understand God's word but unfortunately most of them aren't guided by the Holy Spirit unlike the Bible writers! Satan is another Chief Enemy of God's people,his main target is to confuse people either through his agents or "directly talking to people" so to gain insight you must be willing to dig deep by comparing different versions of the Bible,not depending on strange voices because Satan can talk and claim that he is Jesus! God stopped talking to people or giving them visions and signs immediately the Bible was completed. Revelations 22:18 means "no addition and no subtraction" It's the love you have for God that's going to help you but God's Holy Spirit will only guide you to locate texts that will make understand God's purpose! The evidence of the Holy Spirit is when you're able to relate all the Bible verses without discarding any as invalid, moreover you'll meet others who also dedicated their lives to the same course and you'll notice how their conduct turns out, then those who have the same Faith must pursue the nine qualities of the Holy Spirit. Galatians 5:22/23 You'll connect with them across the globe and together you'll form a global family of evangelisers encouraging one another as the day of God's vengeance draws near!

brocab:
JW's don't like sharing in the community, JW's don't fellowship with other believers that don't fellowship with them, are you kidding?
JW's look out for JW's, I have had group home meetings, with JW's verses Born again believers, the elders are sharks at this game-they seek after the weak-they twist the scriptures, they look for the young-and before they know it, the JW's have corned them into a corner.
JW's don't give anybody the time of day-if we aren't knowledgeable in the Word of God, they seek to devour the innocent.
I am not here to listen to these lies, about the JW's, ask anybody outside the watchtowers camp, we have all had some sort of waste of time with them.
JW's don't like listening to the truth, they black list you, as soon as they know we have some sort of bible knowledge they stay away from you.

brocab:
Stick around, because we are happy to teach you the Word of God.

Riofidelio:
please Sir, if Christianity isn't about "going around preaching" then what visible features led to that group name(CHRISTIANS) in Antioch? I thought it's because observers noticed the way this people are conducting themselves according to the order given by their founder Jesus who was called CHRIST! Matthew 10:11-13,28:19/20

Riofidelio:
Jesus sent His followers out in twos so that the poorest and less privileged can be saved, that's what they're still doing today so the good news will only cost you your time and nothing more. Please if you're a true Christian you have to go and meet people at home, Jesus initiated it that way so that those who had no TV, no smartphones, no laptops, no transport fair can hear the good news! Your posts on social media is not for everyone because many can't afford to be on social media.

Riofidelio:
"Jehovah's witnesses"! We don't practice interfaith,so it's either you join our global family or you continue with your local friends who's ideologies remains within their locality! As true Christians our faith transcends ethnicity and nationality ,we're brothers and sisters everywhere we meet, we allow the Bible to set standards for US not some goddamned spirit that's teaching diverse teachings and contradicting doctrines from one place to another! So we can't agree with YOU people since the Spirit directing YOU is not a Spirit of orderliness!

Riofidelio:
It's OK! I think i've tried my best so keep it up and notice those who will continue to contribute to Bible discussions if not those who have dedicated their lives to that course "Jehovah's witnesses"! We don't practice interfaith,so it's either you join our global family or you continue with your local friends who's ideologies remains within their locality! As true Christians our faith transcends ethnicity and nationality ,we're brothers and sisters everywhere we meet, we allow the Bible to set standards for US not some goddamned spirit that's teaching diverse teachings and contradicting doctrines from one place to another! So we can't agree with YOU people since the Spirit directing YOU is not a Spirit of orderliness!

brocab:
First you say you wanted to learn the scriptures, you had come up with your sad story, your parents have brought you up this way.
Now you refuse the idea, to seek the truth.
We do know the JW's don't practice interfaith, "because faith comes by hearing the Word" reasons, are, by works it gains your only access to the chosen 144000. And of course you can't believe in the Spirit of the Lord, because you can't accept he ever existed.
{2 John 1:10-11} If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

brocab:
{2 John 1:9-11}Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God.
He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
Which tells me I will not share in your evil deeds-the doctrine you bring to me, is not the Word of God..

solite3:
it was their message and way of life. Jehovah witnesses are preaching another Jesus.


Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Riofidelio:
(1)Jesus said people everywhere will hate His followers meaning they'll be vilified everywhere they're found. Matthew 10:22 so try to sought out what EXACTLY made you dislike Jehovah's witnesses! since everyone knows them to be peace-loving citizens?(2) Jesus said His followers will have LOVE amongst themselves.John 13:35 so try to sought out why is it that everywhere you go people are saying "Jehovah's witnesses love ONLY their members" whereas they don't harm people of other faith? (3) God HIMSELF said that HIS true worshippers will be able to speak convincingly about their Faith and no other religious groups can withstand their powerful speech. Isaiah 54:17 so think why is it that it's ONLY Jehovah's witnesses that are widely known for the confident to come out and face others with their faith?(4) God said that in the last days faithful worshippers practicing pure worship will be known for always sitting down with their neighbors discussing about God's standards. Malachi 3:16 so think why is it that ONLY Jehovah's witnesses throughout the world are known for this act? Remember! God said through Malachi that that's the ONLY criteria to get your names written down in the book of life. Please consider Malachi 3:16 with Revelations 20:15. God bless you!

Hairyrapunzel:


Governing body says people everywhere will hate jws.
Stop your delusion of hate and persecution complex.
People will always hold contrary opinions to your beliefs and it doesn't mean they hate you.

Jesus followers didn't distribute magazines and were not controlled by 8 men in new York.

Why did they add one man to the 7 that where der before? What was the criteria sef? What did your governing body tell you this time?
Jesus followers cast lot (gambled) to choose a new disciple did your governing body gamble too?

Hairyrapunzel:


Governing body says people everywhere will hate jws.
Stop your delusion of hate and persecution complex.
People will always hold contrary opinions to your beliefs and it doesn't mean they hate you.

Jesus followers didn't distribute magazines and were not controlled by 8 men in new York.

Why did they add one man to the 7 that where der before? What was the criteria sef? What did your governing body tell you this time?
Jesus followers cast lot (gambled) to choose a new disciple did your governing body gamble too?

Riofidelio:
As regards a GOVERNING BODY. It's evident that you're just a churchgoer and not a Church leader because every religion on Earth has a committee to oversee it's activities.And they always have codes of conduct that every member must be subjected to. But if you don't know why this is so,please go and study the New Testament again. You'll notice that immediately after the four gospel writers God arranged for a book named "ACT of APOSTLES" this book explained how Christianity was established under the supervision of a "Governing Body" comprising 12 members of Jesus' closest companions instead of the general term "disciples" used for all His followers they were called "APOSTLES" all of Jesus' followers throughout the Earth must be subjected to the teachings of these twelve men! Act 2:42

Riofidelio:
You've not answered my questions(1) Why Jesus said His followers will be hated,who are those hated and for what reason? Matthew 10:22 i'm sure you can't say Jesus don't know what He's saying(2) Who are those that Jesus said will have love amongst themselves because throughout the Earth today there is no unity even a secular musician called FELA attested to that? (3) Who are those whose confidence in their Faith gave them the impetus to knock on all doors as Isaiah rightly said in Isaiah 54:17? (4) Who are those Malachi's prophecy is pointing to in Malachi 3:16?