jnyuwa02:


If evidence was all needed, then presentation of it would mean qualification for visa. Clearly we know you can present heaven and earth and still be turned down. But presentation of words to win the visa’s discretion in addition to evidence submitted, will carry one over. The right choice of words are very important in an administrative process. And in moving for reconsideration, you don’t say stuff like you were wrongfully denied no. You ask the administrative officer to reconsider his decision based on what you think were overlooked previously. They don’t like to be told they are wrong, only that they overlooked stuff. It’s discretion we are dealing with here! Power to act however he sees fit, is bequeathed to the officer here.

jnyuwa02,

This is just a mere debate which should be encouraged. we learn from each other on a daily basis.
We cannot all agree on the same point/position, it's what makes us intelligent beings. The ability to think and form our own opinion distinct from others.

But i get your point Legend!

Edited: Don't come attacking me again Lol!

DrND:


You are definitely right about them blacklisting NDDC due to their history in delaying payments of their scholars. Just recently two other scholars were also denied on sighting one of GCMS notes the VO refused the study permit application based on the Principal Applicant using an award dated 2016 with history of financial issues to apply for a study permit in 2018.

NDDC didn't issue us any telex copies so I will write to my account officer in Canada and to my school to state the source of funds and address it to CIC. I will also try to get a deferment letter from NDDC.

I could scout for another sponsor to transfer money into my Nigerian account preferably my uncle if I can convince him to.

To be honest with you I haven't seen any NDDC scholar that studied in Canada and is now back to Nigeria. But I know a lot of scholars in Nigeria that studied in UK.

Thank you so much for your response.

If NDDC has been blacklisted, then that is definitely a game changer to what I think about your case. How sure are you that NDDC has been blacklisted? They don’t mention anything about them been blacklisted on your GCMS notes. If that is really the case, they would have mentioned such information on your notes. But they didn’t. From all that is stated on your notes, it seems to me that they don’t even know NDDC which is what I suspected. I think you should stick to them. Their commitment has been shown by the personal remittance into your account. You should work on educating Kenya on this organization, their website and past good record of supporting other applicants from Nigeria to study abroad. And concerning having the school in Canada to write a letter enumerating the scholarship award and saying what they know about NDDC, that is a great move. They listen to the school in Canada than anything you can say yourself, so hopefully the school in Canada take on the scholarship has substance rather than passing familiarity.

Frankrobbn1:

jnyuwa02,

This is just a mere debate which should be encouraged. we learn from each other on a daily basis.
We cannot all agree on the same point/position, it's what makes us intelligent beings. The ability to think and form our own opinion distinct from others.

But i get your point Legend!

Edited: Don't come attacking me again Lol!

You are Scott’s free my attacks and pulverizing for today. Maybe tommorrow

Asapant:
Good morning Great people. I Want to say something.. Some PGD applicants are truly the course of their denial. I was going through previous threads and I saw a law graduate from the uNiversity who was deniad based on purpose of visit. He graduated Law and secured admissions for human resource managanent in Conestoga.

Law and HRM aren't related !!

From the V.O's perspective. He looks desperate and apparently not serious with studies. I guess..

These people are even making it more difficult for TRV to fall on genuine PGD applicants..

My lil advice : Anyone going for PGd MUST try as much as possible to make his/her intending program to be ALMOST SYNONYMOUS to previous study..

Bosses is the house I hail... Na with respect i make my submission

Hello dear, am not trying to refuse that some PGD students expose themselves to purpose of visit but you can't say law has nothing to do with human resource, the last time I checked law deals with administration and labour as seen in courses such as labour law and administrative law all this can be linked to HR

If I were you, I will just tick yes and move on....the question is "Did you apply for visa? Yes or no? Were you given the visa? Yes or no! Then state that you actually applied for visa but unfortunately your application was returned without any reason. Shikina.best of luck to you.

Please guys after going for biometrics, how long does it take to be updated in the online timeline.
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Hey man, sorry you didn't read my former post before jumping in your tips.

Im not afraid of telling them, if truly I was denied. That can't and won't affect my application. God's grace.

If South Africa VO is denying VISA, they state the reason for such in a separate sheet. In my case they didn't give any reason. Why would I say it's refusal when I have everything to proof myself.

Thanks, I got the tips earlier on here.

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Exactly two months since I submitted my study permit no medical call yet, online route !

Mans nervous , eligibility still under review !

Question.

How often do CIC update their system or applicants status btw?

Men, Dats is too long
What does ur background check says?

My application is just a week plus, paper route!

Let's be hopeful
It wil end wel, IJN

ayoslas88:

Men, Dats is too long
What does ur background check says?

My application is just a week plus, paper route!

Let's be hopeful
It wil end wel, IJN

Amen !
Background check have been under process ever since , but am guessing that it’s because I’ve got travel history !

Newman1010:


@blessedness, UCW is not a good school. Check the reviews online. They just want your money. Check Vancouver island University.

What if I switch school when I get there? Instead of going through admission process again. What do you think?

jnyuwa02:


They go wrong, they are not infallible, in fact quite from it. I can guarantee it that this guy presented true statements from his bank, otherwise he won’t even have the audacity to place his question here. They do so for all kinds of psychological reasons.

How will you do that? I'm really interested in that part of your post.

jnyuwa02:


It makes no sense. I fraudulently make bank statements and when confronted I come to a guru for a way out, while telling the guru that I submitted true bank statement? This is not logical. A person who submits fraudulent bank statement and caught will not reply to CIC. Or he will silently confide with his co-conspirators.

jnyuwa02? Do you smoke weed or any form of hard stuff? I don't mean this in any disrespecting way.

justwise:


How will you do that? I'm really interested in that part of your post.

I wonder why jnyuwa02 will be too sure of another man's case. We both argued this yesterday. I noticed he was taking the matter so personal, so I decided to let the sleeping dog lie.

Hello house, Any university if Ottawa admission applicant in the house? I'm just tired of the long wait. Please PM me if you have gotten any update from them. My application has been under evaluation for months now.

justwise:


jnyuwa02? Do you smoke weed or any form of hard stuff? I don't mean this in any disrespecting way.

Yes I am high on life and godly living and workaholism that are neither artificially or drug induced. It’s simply a hypothetical analysis and use of logic to interpret the situation at hand. People don’t forge bank statements and come here and ask simple questions as the asker asked in innocence on a public forum on how to respond to an administrative letter . Caught in the act, such people cower away or dig deep underground conferring with their co-conspirators.

justwise:


How will you do that? I'm really interested in that part of your post.

Watch and see, CIC will recant if this guy is genuine. I have seen them do that if you respond forcefully to their administrative letter accusation of falsified bank statements. I have seen them accuse people falsely in the past with no evidence whatsoever. And they chilled on the accusations when those people showed how genuine they are.

Kindly help me out.
I just got admission offers from NCC and my processing agency told me I need to have up to 20m naira in my bank account as prove of fund for a family of five.
Although, I have a different position on this amount which I believe should not be up to 10m naira.
My major issue, however is how to get the amount that much to enable me proceed with the visa filing.
Your response is golden.

okka:
Kindly help me out.
I just got admission offers from NCC and my processing agency told me I need to have up to 20m naira in my bank account as prove of fund for a family of five.
Although, I have a different position on this amount which I believe should not be up to 10m naira.
My major issue, however is how to get the amount that much to enable me proceed with the visa filing.
Your response is golden.

okka,

Your processing agency is correct! 20M is the ideal amount of money to cater for a family of five that's if you plan traveling along with them. Presenting 10M won't fly here unless you don't plan to travel with your family at once.
But I'll advise you apply alone, while your family can join you once you've acquired your TRV, think about it okay.

nogara:
Hello house, Any university if Ottawa admission applicant in the house? I'm just tired of the long wait. Please PM me if you have gotten any update from them. My application has been under evaluation for months now.

Did the admission process require you to contact a supervisor before applying? If yes, have you been in communication with your potential supervisor? Try sending a mail asking for update on your application - that you're kind of concerned if everything is fine with your application.

Frankrobbn1:

okka,

Your processing agency is correct! 20M is the ideal amount of money to cater for a family of five that's if you plan traveling along with them. Presenting 10M won't fly here unless you don't plan to travel with your family at once.
But I'll advise you apply alone, while your family can join you once you've acquired your TRV, think about it okay.

I am a bit confused with your response and i disagree.

For a family of 5 for 1 year living expenses is 10kCAD (for primary applicant) + 4kCAD for 1 (adult dependent) and three children 3kCAD each

This sums up to 23kCAD

In naira its about 6.5million. (1year living expenses)

Please, how did you arrive at 20million

Going forward.

Frankrobbn1:

okka,

Your processing agency is correct! 20M is the ideal amount of money to cater for a family of five that's if you plan traveling along with them. Presenting 10M won't fly here unless you don't plan to travel with your family at once.
But I'll advise you apply alone, while your family can join you once you've acquired your TRV, think about it okay.

Thank you for your swift response and advise.
If I wish to go alone first, what will pof amount look like?

okka:



Thank you for your swift response and advise.
If I wish to go alone first, what will pof amount look like?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/study-permit/prepare/get-documents.html

Look at the link above. But you can wait for other expert opinions.

Goingforward.

okka:



Thank you for your swift response and advise.
If I wish to go alone first, what will pof amount look like?

What do you mean by NCC? Do you mean Niagara Christian Collegiate? 15M will be your best bet here as POF

goingforward:


I am a bit confused with your response and i disagree.

For a family of 5 for 1 year living expenses is 10kCAD (for primary applicant) + 4kCAD for 1 (adult dependent) and three children 3kCAD each

This sums up to 23kCAD

In naira its about 6.5million. (1year living expenses)

Please, how did you arrive at 20million

Going forward.

Many people don't know that Canadian visa officers have now adopted the use of LICO for the spousal work permit application. If you rely on the $4000 for adult plus $3000 for each of the dependant,you risk refusal on insufficient fund.

goingforward:


I am a bit confused with your response and i disagree.

For a family of 5 for 1 year living expenses is 10kCAD (for primary applicant) + 4kCAD for 1 (adult dependent) and three children 3kCAD each

This sums up to 23kCAD

In naira its about 6.5million. (1year living expenses)

Please, how did you arrive at 20million

Going forward.

goingforward,

The figures shortlisted by you from cic webpage is correct. But you should also put into consideration if his kids will be enrolled into a creche or primary school over there in Canada, which requires a huge sum of money.Therefore, showing additional funds for just 4KCAD for adult dependant and 3KCAD for children won't be sufficient considering his tuition fees from NCC, flight tickets for a family of five. So, presenting just 10M will not fly here.

Ratawu:


Many people don't know that Canadian visa officers have now adopted the use of LICO for the spousal work permit application. If you rely on the $4000 for adult plus $3000 for each of the dependant,you risk refusal on insufficient fund.

Thank you for this point Ratawu. Not just that, the applicant needs to show funds in excess when travelling with a Family of five.

Frankrobbn1:

goingforward,

The figures shortlisted by you from cic webpage is correct. But you should also put into consideration if his kids will be enrolled into a creche or primary school over there in Canada, which requires a huge sum of money.Therefore, showing additional funds for just 4KCAD for adult dependant and 3KCAD for children won't be sufficient considering his tuition fees from NCC, flight tickets for a family of five. Presenting 10M here will not fly here.

Hi Frankrobbn1,

Sure there are other miscellaneous, however, education is free for kids up till 18years.
I think even at that it would not be up to 20million. ( i am assuming that Oka's kids are not up to 18 yet). I know people who did this and got it without having up to that.

I think that Okka should asides from the stipulated amount from CIC make provision for the following:


Return Ticket for a family of 5 *
Miscellaneous during the study (maybe 5k or 10kCAD)


Use CIC as a guide and add some miscellaneous. ( So that they know that you are taking your family into consideration)

Also is your spouse applying for SOWP or Visit, that again is another consideration. ( if your spouse would be working, then they would be supporting financially, CIC will consider this).

These are just my thoughts.


Goingforward.

jnyuwa02:


Watch and see, CIC will recant if this guy is genuine. I have seen them do that if you respond forcefully to their administrative letter accusation of falsified bank statements. I have seen them accuse people falsely in the past with no evidence whatsoever. And they chilled on the accusations when those people showed how genuine they are.

I'm yet to see anybody here who was falsely accused by Canadian embassy of submitting fraudulent document but i have seen many who submitted fraudulent documents and came here to ask people how to reply to the embassy.

I'm sorry but you are being disingenuous when you claimed that you have not seen anybody who submitted fraudulent document then came here to ask for help because people have done it in the past and blamed their agent.

People think because they paid somebody in the bank to inflate their bank balance that the embassy will not find out, this is false and this is probably why many keep doing it.

jnyuwa02:


Yes I am high on life and godly living and workaholism that are neither artificially or drug induced. It’s simply a hypothetical analysis and use of logic to interpret the situation at hand. People don’t forge bank statements and come here and ask simple questions as the asker asked in innocence on a public forum on how to respond to an administrative letter . Caught in the act, such people cower away or dig deep underground conferring with their co-conspirators.

Now i understand..

goingforward:


Hi Frankrobbn1,

Sure there are other miscellaneous, however, education is free for kids up till 18years.
I think even at that it would not be up to 20million. I know people who did this and got it without having up to that.

I think that Okka should asides from the stipulated amount from CIC make provision for the following:


Return Ticket for a family of 5 *
Miscellaneous during the study (maybe 5k or 10kCAD)

If you do the math it doesn't get up to 20millon naira.

Use CIC as a guide and add some miscellaneous. ( So that they know that you are taking your family into consideration)

Also is your wife applying for SOWP or Visit, that again is another consideration.

These are just my thoughts.
Goingforward.

goingforward,

Well said!!! I can see you have some relevant experience here. Well at the first instance, I never cared to calculate the figure whether it's up 20M or not, but I know fully that 10M won't be enough for a family of five in Canada considering the expenses, flight tickets etc.. He may risk his application of being refused based on insufficient funds. To be on a safe side, the figure might not be up to 20M it's just to show his financial establishment. A bank statement of 15M will be his best sell here and once acquired his TRV, then his wife can apply through SOWP.

Frankrobbn1:

goingforward,

Well said!!! I can see you have some relevant experience here. Well at the first instance, I never cared to calculate the figure whether it's up 20M or not, but I know fully that 10M won't be enough for a family of five in Canada considering the expenses, flight tickets etc.. He may risk his application of being refused based on insufficient funds. To be on a safe side, the figure might not be up to 20M it's just to show his financial establishment. A bank statement of 15M will be his best sell here and once acquired his TRV, then his wife can apply through SOWP.

@Frankrobbn1,

Well someone here advised that its important for each person to do research on your own as well, even though that you may also seek to advise here, so i have been doing some extensive research about the entire Canada study process.

Still, No man is an island. In the multitude of counsel, there is safety.

This forum has been very helpful and still is with people like you here.

Gracias.

goingforward.

goingforward:


I am a bit confused with your response and i disagree.

For a family of 5 for 1 year living expenses is 10kCAD (for primary applicant) + 4kCAD for 1 (adult dependent) and three children 3kCAD each

This sums up to 23kCAD

In naira its about 6.5million. (1year living expenses)

Please, how did you arrive at 20million

Going forward.

This is actually correct because that is what CIC always recommends if you are applying for SOWP. The principal applicant has to show an additional $4k for spouse and $3k for every dependent child or minor.