AngelicBeing:
Gbam, no venture no success, practical ideas rules the world, I was in a conversation few days ago with an Uber driver, I told him that Uber has no cars on it's platform but it came with an idea to link passengers to car owners, Uber is swimming in billions of naira globally just with a simple idea, who knows bamboo technology might be another Uber in the making in Nigeria as long as it is cheaper and affordable

You are still very correct sir. The bill gates and mark zuckerberks simply did things in a different way and lots of people embraced it when found useful.
I maintain its very possible for an entrepreneur to become very rich in Nigeria than anywhere else due to our size. One just needs a unique and effective product or service to render.
I once mentioned about the possibility of using rice husk ash now in abundance in Nigeria due to the rice revolution as a pozzolanic material that could be used to partially replace cement and still give a stronger concrete but the spambot deleted my post and banned me.
There are good business opportunities for entrepreneurs with some money to finance it in the country if they are willing to take the risk. only the risk takers significantly change the world and make it big.

gbadexy:

I really like the designs possible with the use of bamboo. The use of bamboo only for building houses isn't entirely new in Nigeria. My grandfather's house was built with it before my father and the rest of the family brought it down and built brick/block house.
My mum used to tell me they could see the stars outside when sleeping and the mosquitoes were terrible. I think I faintly recollect staying there but it could the stories my mum told me creating impression on my mind.
I couldn't say if they do any special preservation against rot and termite or if they simply frequently replaced affected bamboos in the building though.
One of the disadvantages of the bamboo in the previous article you posted the link says it shrinks considerably when dry, so it would have to be sufficiently processed with preservatives and allowed to dry totally before it could be tested as an alternate building material and only a company with specialized machineries and standard laboratory could do that.
Most of the structures in the link posted are not storey building and many people here won't mind doing it if we don't have bad mouth generally in Africa. such owner would be called a poor person or a miser living in a bamboo house no matter how innovative and aesthetically pleasing it's made to look. We would sha coin one derogatory name that would discourage the look except some celebrities use them.
The picture you posted of it used as a possible reinforcement for concrete floor looks very promising but I think this is where an entrepreneur should come in by having samples shaped to desired sizes, treated and tested in a government approved or owned material laboratory to give backing to claims of its high tensile strength and other properties and also using it as reinforcement for floor and other low structures and have it tested.
If confirmed, the entrepreneur would then have to create awareness for it and even hold seminars for registered engineers showcasing it's effectiveness. it's even possible to get invited for the builders associations annual meeting and demonstrate it.
No builder would want to stake his or her reputation on unproven technology. The onus lies on an entrepreneur to come take the risk and reap the benefits.

It is not just any bamboo to be used. There are specific species of bamboo for such purposes, the age, treatment against infestation and rot..
While its still an on going research and still debatable. Clearly it can't be used entirely for high rise buildings except there will be a combination of steel and bamboo. But for bungalows it can used and if any government intends using such for buildings it will fall into the low cost housing scheme.

It will take a crazy thinking minister/commissioner for housing in this country to get a suitable construction firm to actualize it and then I wonder which class of citizens will live in it even if it's given out free. Even mad people in this country will laugh.

But if the wealthy and influential in the society builds such and invite we all to come spend some holidays there, we will all gladly accept the offer and even want to extend the stay.

mufutau55:


Now you are talking. I will use it five years after Twinskenny used it in his build.

Hajji M.

me ke? Noooo esin waju ni teyin wo sare sir

MY TAKE ON BAMBOO AS MAIN REINFORCEMENT MATERIAL.

No technological breakthrough can ever occur without some daring introduction of a mix of alternatives to the laid down methods. However,care should be taken to ensure that the alternative shouldn't usher in structural problems in the future.

Let me start with the Nigerian situation, it is estimated that Nigeria is growing at such an alarming rate in one direction, population. These people will need to live somewhere decent. In some parts of the country, we are already experiencing a heavy overcrowding problem, especially in the cities. To preserve more lands for industrialisation and agricultural uses, we don't have much choices than to build upwards, and this is where the problem for bamboo uses starts.

Proponents to the use of bamboos understand that it can support mainly bungalows, or floor works, this makes its uses minimal.

Then again the treatment of bamboos will have to go through the rigours of the failed Nigerian quality standards, which are not being well regulated. People can bribe their way through most regulations, iron rods reinforcement are not being monitored properly, how much more bamboo. People may start to fake the treatment chemicals and sell them to unsuspecting people. I have pictures of a ceiling work ( in one of my rented rooms) where I sprayed the wood with chemicals and two months later, termites ate the whole new ceiling wood, even digested the chemicals and the ceiling fell. Termites attack Nigerian bamboos so much, some of us always building knows that bamboo used for supporting a deck is almost useless as a support after two months, as the thousands of small holes bored by termites have weakened the bamboo.

With the impatience of Nigerians in everything, who will have the diligence to treat bamboos till they attain the right moisture content level before use?

spyder880:
MY TAKE ON BAMBOO AS MAIN REINFORCEMENT MATERIAL.

No technological breakthrough can ever occur without some daring introduction of a mix of alternatives to the laid down methods. However,care should be taken to ensure that the alternative shouldn't usher in structural problems in the future.

Let me start with the Nigerian situation, it is estimated that Nigeria is growing at such an alarming rate in one direction, population. These people will need to live somewhere decent. In some parts of the country, we are already experiencing a heavy overcrowding problem, especially in the cities. To preserve more lands for industrialisation and agricultural uses, we don't have much choices than to build upwards, and this is where the problem for bamboo uses starts.

Proponents to the use of bamboos understand that it can support mainly bungalows, or floor works, this makes its uses minimal.

Then again the treatment of bamboos will have to go through the rigours of the failed Nigerian quality standards, which are not being well regulated. People can bribe their way through most regulations, iron rods reinforcement are not being monitored properly, how much more bamboo. People may start to fake the treatment chemicals and sell them to unsuspecting people. I have pictures of a ceiling work ( in one of my rented rooms) where I sprayed the wood with chemicals and two months later, termites ate the whole new ceiling wood, even digested the chemicals and the ceiling fell. Termites attack Nigerian bamboos so much, some of us always building knows that bamboo used for supporting a deck is almost useless as a support after two months, as the thousands of small holes bored by termites have weakened the bamboo.

With the impatience of Nigerians in everything, who will have the diligence to treat bamboos till they attain the right moisture content level before use?

Hmmm, nawao, Lol at faking bamboo treatment chemicals, chai, I give up

bixton:



It is not just any bamboo to be used. There are specific species of bamboo for such purposes, the age, treatment against infestation and rot..
While its still an on going research and still debatable. Clearly it can't be used entirely for high rise buildings except there will be a combination of steel and bamboo. But for bungalows it can used and if any government intends using such for buildings it will fall into the low cost housing scheme.

It will take a crazy thinking minister/commissioner for housing in this country to get a suitable construction firm to actualize it and then I wonder which class of citizens will live in it even if it's given out free. Even mad people in this country will laugh.

But if the wealthy and influential in the society builds such and invite we all to come spend some holidays there, we will all gladly accept the offer and even want to extend the stay.

Thanks for the further clarification sir. perhaps we may have the ideal specie of it here.
I agree with you that we won't readily embrace it unless some people we feel are privileged use them or the oyinbos package it and give it a fancy name, putting a lipstick on a pig according to our egbon here.

twinskenny:
me ke? Noooo esin waju ni teyin wo sare sir

You got me laughing hard
Now who will bell the cat.

twinskenny:
Hello sir,


For the record am not against any home owner who want to diy... If he thinks he can handle it why not? What am saying is there are things that should be left for a professional. Simple.

Even if you are not given the said professional the job u can pay a little fees.. let him supervise for you. . I don't think that's bad in anyway.

Thank you God bless

guess i am joinging the party too late, i belong to so many car forums, and is norml for most of them to overhaul/rebuild their engines,..while here ordinary to change engine oil or transmission fluid, people balk at it.
it all boils down to common sense, dont tackle what you know/feel you are not qualified for.

i designed and installed my inverter/solar system by myself, used a local electrician to do the nitty gritty jobs like climbing inside ceiling to run cables, and climb the roof to mount the solar panels...to some others its a mission impossible, to me its a piece of cake

These pictures are not meant to discourage anyone who wants to use bamboo as a reinforcement member, but I couldn't help but inspect the bamboos in the first of my sites I visited this morning. All of these tiny holes, are walkways created by the strong termites. For the weaker bamboos, they couldn't survive.
The talk about the treatment must be taken seriously, since the termites are as corrupt as all other things in this country.

Who knows where I can get this please?

Marpol:
Who knows where I can get this please?

Try contacting @Allcopacetic here or one of his thread.
If he doesnt have it, he will point you in a right direction.

Hajji M.

Hello Gurus in the house, I recently embark on building a home, can anyone recommend an app on iOS that can aptly track every spending on the project . Thanks, anticipating your reply.

Mohr:
Hello Gurus in the house, I recently embark on building a home, can anyone recommend an app on iOS that can aptly track every spending on the project . Thanks, anticipating your reply.

App or not it will probably take you the same effort to input your data.

Why not use a spreadsheet with some simple formula. You can use google sheets which is accessible on all platforms. Plus easy for you to access if you lose your phone, plus you can export the data.

That's what i use and i recommend.

Mohr:
Hello Gurus in the house, I recently embark on building a home, can anyone recommend an app on iOS that can aptly track every spending on the project . Thanks, anticipating your reply.

Using excel spread sheets will be better, just add in some simple formulae

Pls contact me for your tiles ,water closet and sanitary wares

Delivery to all part of Lagos is free on terms and conditions

Mohr:
Hello Gurus in the house, I recently embark on building a home, can anyone recommend an app on iOS that can aptly track every spending on the project . Thanks, anticipating your reply.

Notepad or word
All you need is a break down section
I used notepad

Block
EG
Decking
16mm rod--------60 at N1750----------N105,000.00
12mm rod-----400--at N900--------N360,000 or N315,000.00
8mm rod-------60----at--N700------------N 45,000
Cement---200--------at--N1550-----------N310,000
add cements--------5 bag--at---1700-----N8,000
Granite --60 tone-----------------------N310,000
Sand------------------------------------N60,000.00
Binding wire-----2----------------------N 10,500
-----------------------------------------N 0000
2------------------------------ at 250---N 00000
Descking casting------------------------N125,000
Iron bender---- -----------------------N110,000
bamboo----------------------------------N 36,000
Carpenter------------------------------N120,000
Electrician------------------------------N55,000
wood------used-------------------------N130,000.00
wood------------used--------------------N130,000
wood------------------------------------N230,00
General exp-----------------------------N80,000
nails, transportation,hose, engineer,


------------------------------------------------------------------
parapet

carpenter----------------------------N115,000
Wood-------------------------------N173,000*********
-100 bamboo @ 150 = N15,000.00
-Sawing wood @ 70 = N15,000.00,
--nail 2 bags N1500
-I think, I paid N20 more per sawing
Trantsport 6,000, loading 3,000
Iron bender-----------------------------N50,000
Rod----------------
12mm 30 rod --N1,330--------------------N40,000
Left over 5 12mm total use 35 for parparpet
Brother need to account for 10 12mm rod---(N13,300)
stated he bought 40 rod 12mm, we found 30
10mm 40 rod---N1050-----------------N42,250
8mm 80 rod---N700-------------------N56,000
banding-wire-------------------------N6,000
Casting------------------------------N55,000
cements-----60 bags at N1600---------N96,000
granite and sand-----------------------N85,000
carpenter to remove wood from parapet N10,500.00

Bought 80 bags of cements, Have 20 bags left
--------------------------------------------------------------

Roofing
wood ----------------------------N 500,000

nails-----------------------------N 15,000
Roof belt--------------------------N 2000
I have nails left before (two)half bags
Metcoppo tiles----.55-----------N1,184,000
Carpenter-wood--work 12feet-----N 120,000
Metcoppo tile labor------------N 88,000
transport, materials
Other stuff---------------------N 50,000

--------------------------------------------------------
Main Entrance Doors iron
Main Entrance into the flat 4@-41,000--1 at 31,000----N195,000.00
Doors---------8-----@--18,000---N144,000.00
4 doors upstairs from staircase- two at fron and two at back
One door from kitchen for each flat total four
Main Entrance to Staircase 2 -@--20,000---N40,000.00

------------------------------------------------
Door frames
bought wood-----N130,000
labor for each door N500---total N18,000
at N3500 each total doors 34

Total 170,000.00

spyder880:
These pictures are not meant to discourage anyone who wants to use bamboo as a reinforcement member, but I couldn't help but inspect the bamboos in the first of my sites I visited this morning. All of these tiny holes, are walkways created by the strong termites. For the weaker bamboos, they couldn't survive.
The talk about the treatment must be taken seriously, since the termites are as corrupt as all other things in this country.

Chai,

spyder880:
These pictures are not meant to discourage anyone who wants to use bamboo as a reinforcement member, but I couldn't help but inspect the bamboos in the first of my sites I visited this morning. All of these tiny holes, are walkways created by the strong termites. For the weaker bamboos, they couldn't survive.
The talk about the treatment must be taken seriously, since the termites are as corrupt as all other things in this country.

Fantastically corrupt Nigerian termites.

earthrealm:


guess i am joinging the party too late, i belong to so many car forums, and is norml for most of them to overhaul/rebuild their engines,..while here ordinary to change engine oil or transmission fluid, people balk at it.
it all boils down to common sense, dont tackle what you know/feel you are not qualified for.

i designed and installed my inverter/solar system by myself, used a local electrician to do the nitty gritty jobs like climbing inside ceiling to run cables, and climb the roof to mount the solar panels...to some others its a mission impossible, to me its a piece of cake

I just came back from Naija and did my DIY with the cameras and network as well as the satellite installation and the preparation of my Solar which i did myself but the climbing and cable laying stuff was also done by people i specifically instrusted IT is my niche so the configuration of the router and VPN was done by me i can watch my house in Naija from my Base which i tested and it is working perfectly.

Before we go far off , I don't think the acronym DIY as used on this thread is right except probably its a Nigerian context.
DIY clearly means doing everything yourself and no external help and you ain't paying no other person for physically carrying out a job/work.
Anything other than that its either you term yourself as a project manager or any befitting title .


Let's educate ourselves accordingly and rightly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_it_yourself

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/diy

bixton:
Before we go far off , I don't think the acronym DIY as used on this thread is right except probably its a Nigerian context.
DIY clearly means doing everything yourself and no external help and you ain't paying no other person for physically carrying out a job/work.
Anything other than that its either you term yourself as a project manager or any befitting title .


Let's educate ourselves accordingly and rightly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_it_yourself

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/diy

l disagree with you, l am a DIY advocate, I will construct a 25 story building with bamboo, do conduit wiring myself, I will do the tiles, plumbing, screeding, landscaping myself, I will do the roofing myself, we have YouTube video online to guide me, l will not pay any artisan on my site to do any work, I want to save money and I don't want any artisan to eat my money, after completing the house, l will invite Daboomb, spyder880, Abdulwastecx and every member of property section on Nairaland to come and celebrate with me for been the first man on earth to construct a 25 story floor via bamboo technology and without inviting any artisan to my site

Mohr:
Hello Gurus in the house, I recently embark on building a home, can anyone recommend an app on iOS that can aptly track every spending on the project . Thanks, anticipating your reply.

I just finished the foundation of my little bungalow all thanks to all the gurus in d house. I called a couple of them for guidance. as for ur question above, I use my wife she can keep records for Africa. just noticed she still has the receipt of the hotel we had our honey moon almost 7 yrs now

rotecch77:


Good one Mr Kenny.

Could you beleived that this bamboo is been in existence for yrs, if you check those old hurt in remote area some of there red mould hurt have bamboo.

But the system they used then is diff, they use to pieces it and tie them then mould around it.

Looking back now, I remember mud houses in my hood growing up actually had bamboos within the walls. The other one I remember vividly was a 2 story building with wooden floor. The wooden floor of the first floor were neatly arranged on bamboos.

I'll key in to this bamboo revolution. Instead of using rods for my pillar, I'll use bamboo. I'll only use rods for the footing and the starter bar.

Cost savings on my mine

AngelicBeing:
l disagree with you, l am a DIY advocate, I will construct a 25 story building with bamboo, do conduit wiring myself, I will do the tiles, plumbing, screeding, landscaping myself, I will do the roofing myself, we have YouTube video online to guide me, l will not pay any artisan on my site to do any work, I want to save money and I don't want any artisan to eat my money, after completing the house, l will invite Daboomb, spyder880, Abdulwastecx and every member of property section on Nairaland to come and celebrate with me for been the first man on earth to construct a 25 story floor via bamboo technology and without inviting any artisan to my site

Bravo Sir.

mank1234:
I'll key in to this bamboo revolution. Instead of using rods for my pillar, I'll use bamboo. I'll only use rods for the footing and the starter bar.

Cost savings on my mine

I would rather prefer it's used for foundation footing self.
Please not this tech is still in developmental stage and we must be careful how we apply this it's must be done under extreme conditions of professionalism.
All reinforcement code must be adhere to .
All the best and God will never allow us witness collapse building .

Can you please share your experience with me for im about to undertake same. Thanks

yak:


I just finished the foundation of my little bungalow all thanks to all the gurus in d house. I called a couple of them for guidance. as for ur question above, I use my wife she can keep records for Africa. just noticed she still has the receipt of the hotel we had our honey moon almost 7 yrs now

I just finished the foundation of my little bungalow all thanks to all the gurus in d house. I called a couple of them for guidance. as for ur question above, I use my wife she can keep records for Africa. just noticed she still has the receipt of the hotel we had our honey moon almost 7 yrs now[Can you please share your experience with me for im about to undertake same. Thanks

Can you please share your experience with me for im about to undertake same. Thanks

AngelicBeing:
l disagree with you, l am a DIY advocate, I will construct a 25 story building with bamboo, do conduit wiring myself, I will do the tiles, plumbing, screeding, landscaping myself, I will do the roofing myself, we have YouTube video online to guide me, l will not pay any artisan on my site to do any work, I want to save money and I don't want any artisan to eat my money, after completing the house, l will invite Daboomb, spyder880, Abdulwastecx and every member of property section on Nairaland to come and celebrate with me for been the first man on earth to construct a 25 story floor via bamboo technology and without inviting any artisan to my site

He heheh baba na to bring original schnap o

AngelicBeing:
l disagree with you, l am a DIY advocate, I will construct a 25 story building with bamboo, do conduit wiring myself, I will do the tiles, plumbing, screeding, landscaping myself, I will do the roofing myself, we have YouTube video online to guide me, l will not pay any artisan on my site to do any work, I want to save money and I don't want any artisan to eat my money, after completing the house, l will invite Daboomb, spyder880, Abdulwastecx and every member of property section on Nairaland to come and celebrate with me for been the first man on earth to construct a 25 story floor via bamboo technology and without inviting any artisan to my site

Nice one

EgunMogaji:
Many online institutions exist for learning all over the world. On various subjects.

The information is out there for those that wish and more importantly are open to expanding their depths of knowledge.

I just laugh out loud when people try to equate electrical or plumbing work to brain surgery.

its the mind set in nigeria,,, very appalling, i change my engine oil, power steering fluid, transmission fluid myself, and all my pals look at me in awe, as if am some astronaut, while others feel am stingy..and dont want to let a mechanic chop my money

but overseas, you have more people willing to do such and even more on their cars, and these are people who are ar richer than the avg nigerian..their minimum wage when converted to naira..is what an avg worker would be envious of etc.

the so called mechanic, who they call professional has no clue about what he is doing..even elizade/kojo motors isnt left out..i can thump my vchest that i hv saved several hundreds of thousands of naira from diy on my car/home..
truth be told..we have very few professionals worth their salt in this country...many are charlatans masquerading as professionals