prolog2:
Now try and have the sentences in full !
Try and post a link to the book !
I just wonder what kind of brains you guys have.
You haven't proven anything. Rather as usual you are taking words out of context with highly redacted sentences and with no link to the book and no library of authentication.
Are you just stvpid or are you performing an other 419 trick ?

Moneywomen17:
if I show u proof written by Dahomey themselves is that enough proof but first u have to show me proof about Dahomey being under ur Benin village.

prolog2:
It seems you don't understand the meaning of the word "proof".
It doesn't matter where it is coming from.
It is obvious that the myth of oyo ever being an empire was created to steal the glory of Benin empire and give it to a yoruba entity.
Yoruba low self esteem is making them try to actually engage in history theft.
ife wants to steal Benin monarchy and artwork, while oyo wants to steal Benin military might and empire status.
You think you can just own Benin history and share it among your lazy yoruba lots ? think again !

NwaAmaikpe:




This yeye Oba travels more than a runs girl.

Ozuo King.

hurrycayne:
I taya for oba o. E no dey sidan one place again. Laho, make una help me talk to am o

you people are half baked you've never undergone proper process of transformation to a better human being full of chaos that's why you were named land of anger by oromiyan. i can understand why you will be insulting the stool of of oduduwa or ekaladeihan , izoduwa what ever you called it in Benin ..i dare not insult insult oba benin ...Don't drag the obas into this ..

Moorish:

Do you agree that your mothers are prostitutes in Italy today?

Do you agree that Ife birthed your kingship?

Do you agree that Yoruba was the language of Benin kingdom until Ewuare stopped it?

If you guys are telling the truth why is it that all the writings on the Yoruba pantheon of gods (ogun, oya, oshun, sango etc) come from yorubas?

Were are your writings about these gods?

Why did Ifa divination system come from yorubas?

Is it not obvious that you are an idiot?

Moneywomen17:
nope. U have not provided any source whatsoever to buttress it.

Moneywomen17:
Alright am done with this thread no more comment from me but it has been fun my Benin friends. Oodua a gbe gbogbo omo yoruba ooo

davidnazee:


Do you know that your own mother cheated on your useless father? Idiot child of a witch mother and armed robber father..

davidnazee:


"a section of Ekiti historians like Atolagbe who adduced to the pre-eminence of Oore as the most senior Yoruba and Ekiti Oba was linked to the fact that Oore signed the 1886 peace treaty which the British coordinated with Alaafin of Oyo and the Oowa Obokun amongst others. The Oba of Benin was also made to enter into treaty with the Alaafin of Oyo. Under this treaty, the Oba of Benin would have Ekiti, Ondo, Edo and other parts of his traditional areas of influence as part of Benin zone of influence, and it would be free of Oyo territorial incursions, while the Alaafin of Oyo would have the Western and Northern Yoruba territories"

davidnazee:


Moneywoman, here is more account of Great Benin exploits in Yorubalands. Copied from the scholarly work and research of a honest Yoruba guy.

"Eastern Yorubaland felt the impact of its powerful eastern neighbor, Benin. When Benin invaded Ekiti between 1818-1823, the aim was to quell provincial revolt and regain control over the region’s economy. Indeed by reasserting control over the trade routes, which linked it with Yorubaland, Benin strengthened the position of its long distance traders, the Ekhengbo (from Ekhen Egbo) (ekhen, traders; egbo, forest). Akure and Benin traditions agree that the invasion of Akure was precipitated by
a commercial dispute following an attack on a Benin tobacco trader, Ogonto, who was accused of violating an Akure law. Even though the information is scanty, it is possible to situate the Benin invasion at this time and the economic dispute at its root, within the context of the rise in the supply of slaves by the wars in Yorubaland and Hausaland. Benin traders would have desired to tap into the northern Yoruba slave fields as well as send foreign goods into the interior. They would have also wanted alternative markets, even if temporary, to counterbalance the disruptive effect of the Nupe political crisis on Benin’s trade with the Niger. Consequently, Benin soldiers, under Ologbosere Imaran and Ezemo Erebo, carried out punitive expeditions, which left so much destruction that the fear of Benin lingered on till the early years of colonial occupation. Several Ekiti, Akoko and Owo towns were sacked and in them were created Benin colonies under the Balekale (consuls).
With the victory, Benin reasserted its control over trade in Ekiti, Owo and Akoko, and Benin enclaves in Owo, Akure, Ikere and Ado-Ekiti became the nexus of trade between Benin and Yorubaland. Both Akure and Idanre traditions agree that owing to Benin commercial activities, a nineteenth century ruler, Deji Gbogi and an influential woman, Olokoju both of Akure founded Alade village/market (near Idanre) as a meeting point for Ekiti, Idanre, Ondo, Owo, Ijebu, Benin and Ijesa traders. Imported items such as guns, salt and metal implements from Benin were sold as far as Ilesa, Ekiti and Ilorin. This earned the Ekhengbo the distinction of being called the “first long-distance traders in Ekiti.” Although the Akure king’s list seems to put Igbogi in an earlier century, the reference to the importation of guns would put his reign in the mid-nineteenth century. Most significant was that commercial metal products point to the position of Akure as a regional market. As we shall show in chapter four, Benin traders undermined direct commercial contacts between Ekiti and Ondo for a greater part of the century.

Immigrants into Ekiti also included traders, soldiers, administrators and their dependants from Benin. These colonists set up farm in the forest straddling the Akure-Idanre border and occupied what is now called the Ọgbọn Ado (Edo quarter) of Ado-Ekiti. Similarly slaves captured by the Benin from some Ado villages and some refugees were settled at Ikere where they established Ogotun, Afao, Are, Iluomoba and Agbado quarters, all named after their previous towns."

Truth is Benin owned and still has claims to Eastern Yoruba. It is Benin territory.


Benin greatness is motivated by link with Yoruba nothing more ..your rule over some part of ondo and ekiti is not by war but monarchical superiority

EdoNation:
Yoruba's have no pride or sense of self worth , such a pity..... Tufia!!

Moorish:

Madam, you too join?

You go wound oh?

Na man dey fight war

EdoNation:
Yoruba's have no pride or sense of self worth , such a pity..... Tufia!!

davidnazee:


"a section of Ekiti historians like Atolagbe who adduced to the pre-eminence of Oore as the most senior Yoruba and Ekiti Oba was linked to the fact that Oore signed the 1886 peace treaty which the British coordinated with Alaafin of Oyo and the Oowa Obokun amongst others. The Oba of Benin was also made to enter into treaty with the Alaafin of Oyo. Under this treaty, the Oba of Benin would have Ekiti, Ondo, Edo and other parts of his traditional areas of influence as part of Benin zone of influence, and it would be free of Oyo territorial incursions, while the Alaafin of Oyo would have the Western and Northern Yoruba territories"

davidnazee:


Moneywoman, here is more account of Great Benin exploits in Yorubalands. Copied from the scholarly work and research of a honest Yoruba guy.

"Eastern Yorubaland felt the impact of its powerful eastern neighbor, Benin. When Benin invaded Ekiti between 1818-1823, the aim was to quell provincial revolt and regain control over the region’s economy. Indeed by reasserting control over the trade routes, which linked it with Yorubaland, Benin strengthened the position of its long distance traders, the Ekhengbo (from Ekhen Egbo) (ekhen, traders; egbo, forest). Akure and Benin traditions agree that the invasion of Akure was precipitated by
a commercial dispute following an attack on a Benin tobacco trader, Ogonto, who was accused of violating an Akure law. Even though the information is scanty, it is possible to situate the Benin invasion at this time and the economic dispute at its root, within the context of the rise in the supply of slaves by the wars in Yorubaland and Hausaland. Benin traders would have desired to tap into the northern Yoruba slave fields as well as send foreign goods into the interior. They would have also wanted alternative markets, even if temporary, to counterbalance the disruptive effect of the Nupe political crisis on Benin’s trade with the Niger. Consequently, Benin soldiers, under Ologbosere Imaran and Ezemo Erebo, carried out punitive expeditions, which left so much destruction that the fear of Benin lingered on till the early years of colonial occupation. Several Ekiti, Akoko and Owo towns were sacked and in them were created Benin colonies under the Balekale (consuls).
With the victory, Benin reasserted its control over trade in Ekiti, Owo and Akoko, and Benin enclaves in Owo, Akure, Ikere and Ado-Ekiti became the nexus of trade between Benin and Yorubaland. Both Akure and Idanre traditions agree that owing to Benin commercial activities, a nineteenth century ruler, Deji Gbogi and an influential woman, Olokoju both of Akure founded Alade village/market (near Idanre) as a meeting point for Ekiti, Idanre, Ondo, Owo, Ijebu, Benin and Ijesa traders. Imported items such as guns, salt and metal implements from Benin were sold as far as Ilesa, Ekiti and Ilorin. This earned the Ekhengbo the distinction of being called the “first long-distance traders in Ekiti.” Although the Akure king’s list seems to put Igbogi in an earlier century, the reference to the importation of guns would put his reign in the mid-nineteenth century. Most significant was that commercial metal products point to the position of Akure as a regional market. As we shall show in chapter four, Benin traders undermined direct commercial contacts between Ekiti and Ondo for a greater part of the century.

Immigrants into Ekiti also included traders, soldiers, administrators and their dependants from Benin. These colonists set up farm in the forest straddling the Akure-Idanre border and occupied what is now called the Ọgbọn Ado (Edo quarter) of Ado-Ekiti. Similarly slaves captured by the Benin from some Ado villages and some refugees were settled at Ikere where they established Ogotun, Afao, Are, Iluomoba and Agbado quarters, all named after their previous towns."

Truth is Benin owned and still has claims to Eastern Yoruba. It is Benin territory.

BabaRamota1980:
We can also see how the Oba craftly diminished powers under the control of Edo chiefs. He did in Udo, he did in Uselu.

Edos worship a foreign monarchy that brought Obaship to them and also rebranded society from Iso or Edo to Ile Ibini. We have never heard of an Edo kingdom. What we know is Bini kingdom.

Moreover, your elders knew this would be a very difficult pill to swallow, so they made it acceptable....instead of water to swallow the pill, they gave you glass of koolaid. Till today the sweetness of that koolaid lingers on your tongue, you worry less about the pill.

It doesn't matter that Oranmiyan is a Yoruba, nor does it matter that his dynasty is Yoruba, or that he rebranded society and gave you a Yoruba identity, Ile Ibinu.....all the sweetness of the Ekaladheran story is enough to quell the bitterness of conquest by Yoruba.


We are your father any day! Your 3rd dynasty is loading....

davidnazee:


Of all the Yorubas arguing aimlessly on this forum you are the dumbest of all. Marcof, moorish and moneywoman try pass you. Nobody bothered to comment on ur post about the 3rd dynasty not even ur Yoruba brothers becos that is foolishness.

BabaRamota1980:


When my opponent is easily disgusted by my posting, its a sign Im hitting home and have successfully cornered him into a distressed position from where he has to struggle to keep from drowning.

Stop throwing tantrums and cheap insults.

Answer my statements.

I say Yoruba is your father any day!

We can explain the foreign title, name and bloodline of your monarchy. You cannot!

Omo Oba is not Edo word
Ile Ibinu is not Edo word
Oranminyan is not Edo name

There is no Edo kingdom
There is no Oba or Omo Oba anywhere else in Edoland.


Yoruba is your father! We will bring a 3rd dynasty to rule you if your obstinacy does not stop.

We will separate Biniland and throw Edo people under Itsekiri or Ijaw.

prolog2:
I wish the Oba would just give the order to bring the BENIN army back into the map, we would just go and conquer these Y.A.R.R.I.B.A once again !!!
It wouldn't even be that difficult.