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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:14pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

Me I think Rohr has to approach this WC with some flexibility. Each opponent might require a different tactical set up and different players. Different players does not mean he should change the team so much. Just throw in one, two, three players to start certain games and that might do the magic. But if we stick to this idea that you never change a winning team, toh, it's a double edged sword. The winning team of yesterday might continue to win or it might lose. All na risk.

But this was what keshi was doing then and we accused him of not having a starting 11 if you remember very well. I agree with you though, football has gone so dynamic that it took a Gareth bale to introduced as a sub for real Madrid to win that champs league for a third time in a row. Rohr needs to be flexible. There are matches iheanacho or even a musa should start while folks like moses can come in the second half. For Cameroon to win afcon, even a whole abubakar was coming in as a sub. That's how dynamic football is. Onazi today was not a regular until he came to replace a fegor ogude in the quarter final against civ when ogude was suspended for the match so why can't onazi be benched now if we have better options

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:17pm On Jun 02, 2018
Goke7:


But this was what keshi was doing then and we accused him of not having a starting 11 if you remember very well. I agree with you though, football has gone so dynamic that it took a Gareth bale to introduced as a sub for real Madrid to win that champs league for a third time in a row. Rohr needs to be flexible. There are matches iheanacho or even a musa should start while folks like moses can come in the second half. For Cameroon to win afcon, even a whole abubakar was coming in as a sub. That's how dynamic football is. Onazi today was not a regular until he came to replace a fegor ogude in the quarter final against civ when ogude was suspended for the match so why can't onazi be benched now if we have better options
That's just it. If we carry plastic thinking into this WC we might get plastic results.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 11:18pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
It was a joke. But the forementioned aren’t outstanding either. Not even above average

i agree
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:19pm On Jun 02, 2018
Super Eagles players WhoScored Stats for England friendly

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 11:20pm On Jun 02, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Which kind of explanation is that one na? How can he push forward when we were always on the back foot and without the ball?

push or you will be push...makes me remember champions league final between juventus and Madrid...marcelo vs Alves
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:21pm On Jun 02, 2018
ChrisKels:
Michael please where are you? Those who called us clueless and haters have finally been treated to a sweet dinner by their Onazi grin
I've never been involved in this Onazi argument but I think you should consider that Onazi is not in form.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:26pm On Jun 02, 2018
When someone agrees with your joke

But Azu would have made the 23 if he were given a chance I think.
ChrisKels:




So una eye dun dey open abi, I have always maintained that Azubuike Okechukwu is a better player than those pretenders but tbaba1234 and Icon4s were against me for saying that. Im just Happy u guys are now seeing what Michael and I saw ages ago.

Azubuike made our midfield thick at the Olympics and he has been the best midfielder amongst our midfield contingents that ply their trade in the Turkish league.

Agu and Onazi are bench warmers in this same league, yet they are always picked ahead of Azu Okey by Rohr. For reasons best known to him, he also prefers those two to Esiti and Agbo. Just smh bkus Rohr is gradually losing my confidence KPOM
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:27pm On Jun 02, 2018
With what I watched today, this is my preferred formation for our World Cup games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:27pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:

Onazi is not a bench warmer in turkey
How many matches did he start this past season?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:28pm On Jun 02, 2018
AIG07:
SARCASM!
Loool at least someone gets it...unlike our other "geniuses"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:34pm On Jun 02, 2018
edi287:

Gbam!! Ighalo today surprising lacked mobility. His movement was disappointing.
Mikel playing deep helped big time. It goes back to what i, Icon79, Oasis007, etc have been saying - PLAY MIKEL A BIT DEEPER. Ogu playing as a CB helped too as he's better than all our CBs on the ball.

Well, I think Ighalo was a little bit isolated. He can do better than that.

Mikel Obi playing in the CMF is better because he will be defensive minded though he can still dictate the attack from deep.

Ogu playing as a defender CB came as a surprise to me. This is not a good signal for Awaziem because he might be dropped.

Let us see the friendly and see if we can improve the frontline.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:36pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:


i actually predicted it, Ebuehi vs shehu is like comparing Range Rover with keke napep
This one no be savagery again oo, na savagement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:37pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

I've never been involved in this Onazi argument but I think you should consider that Onazi is not in form.

Onazi's best days are behind him, it's nothing to do with form. Dude peaked as far back as 2013 through 2014 and ever since that time, he's been a shadow of himself. Lazio noticed that and declared him surplus to requirement and since they sent him away to the Turkey, dude has been overly crappy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:38pm On Jun 02, 2018
Even Rohr knows we have lots of work to do

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:39pm On Jun 02, 2018
Oasis007:
Ekong, Balogun and Ogu should be tried out as the 3 CBs in a 3 - 5 - 2 Formation. I really enjoy the Calmness of Ogu on the Ball. He's a class I must admit. Balogun gets the Height to deal with aerial Threats, also he can be a Leader, coordinating the Defence.

I really can't blame him for his Performance Today, coz I guess he suffered a Concussion after the Heads Collision with Joel. I hope to see him once again with aforementioned Players.
Let's not be carried away with Ogu as a LB. He should play as LMF. there we can maximise his strength and minimise the damage teams will likely inflict if he plays as a LB.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:39pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

The bolded made me laugh.

This kind football analysis na im we want Bro. Nice one.

Hahahahahaha! Na so I Etebo. Tomorrow e go be like say na worwor player em bi but he is a good player.

D one wey I dey do before na still analysis but una no go understand. tongue grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:41pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
When someone agrees with your joke
But Azu would have made the 23 if he were given a chance I think.
I no understand ur first line
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by sontoly: 11:41pm On Jun 02, 2018
The coach should not play ogu in CB, he doesnt have the speed ooo, a good winger will make a meal of him, he was there because of his natural left foot, idowu honestly didnt do much but was at least better than echiejile, ogu should shield the defence in DM allowing ndidi t roam in CM and mikel AM.

onazi must go, along with joel their time is up, if they make to world cup, they will be highly exposed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 11:41pm On Jun 02, 2018
Friends, countrymen, Nairalanders.....

#EngNig...

Watching the first half got me soooo annoyed at our reactionary approach to games and I fear this is a serious problem. Whatever happened to us actually playing our own game? What is it with sitting down and waiting for our opponents to show us their hand before we deal? My stomach was really turning when I saw them English take over the midfield. We couldnt string 3passes together without them interrupted. Did we also have to wait till 2nd half to do the needful changes?

5 friendlies and we are yet to sort out a workin and meaningful midfield and yet we keep talking goalkeeper. Even if Rohr is trying sooo much not to reveal his game plan to opponents watching,... any fool already knows that his ultimate pattern is 3-5-2. Who is he kidding? I am not gonna talk about players who goofes today because right abt nw is not the time for any experimentation. The whole reason why we are in this mess, if truth be told is Rorh's conservative approach. The moment he noticed us losing the battle in the midfield, he shd have drafted Mikel to the deep to shut down things.

Waiting till 2nd half to do necessary changes might be too late in some games. We might not be sooo lucky to recover. I hear a lot of people saying we seem intimidated in the first 30 minutes. But the question I have is does it mean we cant at least string accurate passes just to kill the time and pressure? We dont need to even try and score... at least boss the midfield .... frustrate the opponent a little. I dont think that should be too hard? If pressure is what is the problem, then we have to devise a means of soaking that up. Learn to pass accurately and keep it tight. No need goin forward! Shikena.

The earlier our gaffer starts playing accordin to his team's strength, the beta. Enough of this player cannot be benched for that player. Oh... and one more thing.... if reactionary tactics is how Rorh gets his results, then we gotts be ready to be coming from behind a lot at the mundial. I hope it works

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
Ehen be contributing like this. Keep this up.

Modified
But how many tones did the two DMs find Mikel?


*Yimu*

Many times but the English boys intercepted balls passed to him and got the balls from him when he held on too much.

It simple means they pressed our midfield, most especially Mikel but he was not smart enough to release the ball on time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 11:45pm On Jun 02, 2018
In as much as we blame certain players today let's remember the first goal was a poor jump by our captain and in the second goal he never ran back to close down the luxury of space the scorer had before shooting. The moment the pass was misplaced by his colleague he was utterly displeased. Team spirit. Not big man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:47pm On Jun 02, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:


grin
One thing you should observe about him is his calmness and ability to easily correct his mistake fast
Is not error prone...
His jittery hasn't cost us if I can't remember

Or you remember any?
Do you see his recovery When he was dribbled in box 18...

Think sterling did that mojo...

Just need to free him
And his passes are accurate. He plays with confidence. That's what I like. Even if a player is good but still play with fear I no go like the player

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:50pm On Jun 02, 2018
forgiveness:


Well, I think Ighalo was a little bit isolated. He can better than that.

Mikel Obi playing is better because he is will be defensively minded though he can still dictate the attack from deep.

Ogu playing as a defender CB came as a surprise to me. This is not a good signal for Awaziem because he might be dropped.

Let us see the friendly and see if we can improve the frontline.
Yeah Awaziem might get dropped. I remember there were reports that Ogu trained as a CB in the past, didn't think Rohr would try out in a game.
One of the benefits of having someone like him as a CB in a three man defence is he can always switch back to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 when required.
After this world cup, Rohr needs to look at our midfield options. He should be looking at more creative CMs. Get someone who can pass from deep if he insists on playing Mikel as a 10.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 11:51pm On Jun 02, 2018
Would this formation work?

————————Uzoho——————-

——-Omeruo——Ekong—-Balogun———-

—Ebuehi——-Mikel——Ndidi——-V. Moses——-

—————————-Iwobi————————

——————-A. Musa——S. Nwankwo———

I feel that Ahmed Musa, given the way his pace and trickery bamboozled the Congolese and English defenders, should be given a starting spot on Wednesday. Then, in the 2nd half, either Iheanacho or Ighalo could sub-in for him.

Or is Musa better utilized as a second half substitute?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:52pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

Let's not be carried away with Ogu as a LB. He should play as LMF. there we can maximise his strength and minimise the damage teams will likely inflict if he plays as a LB.
LCB you mean
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:54pm On Jun 02, 2018
MetalJigsaw:
The issue now is can he be consistent for once?
From maturity you don move to consistency. Ok o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:55pm On Jun 02, 2018
PDPGuy:
Would this formation work?

————————Uzoho——————-

——-Omeruo——Ekong—-Balogun———-

—Ebuehi——-Mikel——Ndidi——-V. Moses——-

—————————-Iwobi————————

——————-A. Musa——S. Nwankwo———

I feel that Ahmed Musa, given the way his pace and trickery bamboozled the Congolese and English defenders, should be given a starting spot on Wednesday. Then, in the 2nd half, either Iheanacho or Ighalo could sub-in for him.

Or is Musa better utilized as a second half substitute?
Iheanacho for Simy or Musa in second half. The front 2 needs to be very fluid and mobile so I wouldn't start Simy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:55pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
Even Rohr knows we have lots of work to do

So what have they been doing all these while? A lot of work, two weeks to the World Cup.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 11:56pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:


when i see comment like this, i start to dey wonder how some people watch ball
Get a dictionary and look up the word "Sarcasm"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 11:58pm On Jun 02, 2018
edi287:

Iheanacho for Simy or Musa in second half. The front 2 needs to be very fluid and mobile so I wouldn't start Simy

Well, Simmy’s movement-both on the ball and off the ball- was ok against DR Congo. And he was a constant menace to their defense.

So, his movement coupled with his hold-up play would be a useful offensive weapon for Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:59pm On Jun 02, 2018
kennysville:
Friends, countrymen, Nairalanders.....

#EngNig...

Watching the first half got me soooo annoyed at our reactionary approach to games and I fear this is a serious problem. Whatever happened to us actually playing our own game? What is it with sitting down and waiting for our opponents to show us their hand before we deal? My stomach was really turning when I saw them English take over the midfield. We couldnt string 3passes together without them interrupted. Did we also have to wait till 2nd half to do the needful changes?

5 friendlies and we are yet to sort out a workin and meaningful midfield and yet we keep talking goalkeeper. Even if Rohr is trying sooo much not to reveal his game plan to opponents watching,... any fool already knows that his ultimate pattern is 3-5-2. Who is he kidding? I am not gonna talk about players who goofes today because right abt nw is not the time for any experimentation. The whole reason why we are in this mess, if truth be told is Rorh's conservative approach. The moment he noticed us losing the battle in the midfield, he shd have drafted Mikel to the deep to shut down things.

Waiting till 2nd half to do necessary changes might be too late in some games. We might not be sooo lucky to recover. I hear a lot of people saying we seem intimidated in the first 30 minutes. But the question I have is does it mean we cant at least string accurate passes just to kill the time and pressure? We dont need to even try and score... at least boss the midfield .... frustrate the opponent a little. I dont think that should be too hard? If pressure is what is the problem, then we have to devise a means of soaking that up. Learn to pass accurately and keep it tight. No need goin forward! Shikena.

The earlier our gaffer starts playing accordin to his team's strength, the beta. Enough of this player cannot be benched for that player. Oh... and one more thing.... if reactionary tactics is how Rorh gets his results, then we gotts be ready to be coming from behind a lot at the mundial. I hope it works

A big challenge we have when Onazi plays in the hole between the defence and midfield is his reluctance to shield and be part of the defensive shape. This does not only help the defence but also helps in build-up plays. I wonder after all these while Rohr decided to start this game with Onazi instead of John Ogu who gives us more stability in defence and build-up plays.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:00am On Jun 03, 2018
edi287:

LCB you mean
Yes. Ogu played there today

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