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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:22pm On Jun 16, 2018
ChrisKels:


So how exprienced was Keshi's team?

By the way, Musa and Echiejile have been to the world cup before.
Keshi's team played Afcon and confed cup. Remember guys like Osaze and Emenike were in that team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nihilstjnr: 11:23pm On Jun 16, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


That is his job. He would have done the same for Tyrone. Shehu was never exposed name your moment of frailty so I can go back and check.

An example of Moses playing RB after Shehu was caught upfield by Perisic

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:24pm On Jun 16, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Shehu did good and people are still making up lies about him being poor just to get Ebuehi in the squad.
My only problem was starting Ekong over Omerou and leaving Mikel on the pitch so long. We have to come to terms that Uzoho will make a mistake every match.

Why would you start Omeruo ahead of Ekong?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:24pm On Jun 16, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


That is his job. He would have done the same for Tyrone. Shehu was never exposed name your moment of frailty so I can go back and check.
They want to make Shehu their escape goat. Very pathetic reasoning by people posing as analysts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:24pm On Jun 16, 2018
Icon4s:


The Team as a unit lacks tournaments experience.

Do you know how many tournaments that Croatian team has played together?

Do you know how many tournaments the 94 team played together before the 94 WC? Same goes for the 98 lads.

The boys played well overall but school boys mistakes cost us.


So how many tourneys did Keshi's team play? How many did panama of 2014 play? How many did Algeria of 2014 play?

My man u no get yarns

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nedville: 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
adetoya234:
Super eagles are cursed.

Truth be told this is the situation

We are neither lucky or good enough....the worst combo one can get

Be it foreign, be it local....I don't see any coach who would have changed Nigeria's fortunes..

If our best player is wing back at a club....why did we have much expectations to begin with?

Siasia wouldn't have done anything...rohr couldn't have done anything....the players are crappy but we were expecting a miracle....Argentina is not Algeria, Croatia is not Cameroon and Iceland is no Zambia....qualifiers deceived us....we were the least best team in the group as soon as the world cup draw was made

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
Joebie:
Hahaha.. u too give up early. Abi he talk say we go beat Croatia before?

Noooo I have not given up. Not at all. My problem is that the team lacks believe in itself. Without faith in themselves no tactics will help them.

Farah the falcon don predict am jare. Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
ChrisKels:


Na u give am injury wey make am unfit? Shut up if u no get wetin to talk. Na Balogun wey pass let fitness test. Ebuehi was never injured at any point. He only had a simple nose bleeding about 4 days ago
abeg help me ask am o. How long does nose bleeding takes to heal?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
ChrisKels:


U fit tell me one mistake Uzoho made?

So gawking at the first goal as it went in was not a mistake.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nihilstjnr: 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
There was even one time Iwobi had to leave left wing to come and cover Shehu at RB

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:25pm On Jun 16, 2018
goldfish80:

Keshi's team played Afcon and confed cup. Remember guys like Osaze and Emenike were in that team.

That is the tournament experience I am talking about.

This Rohr's team as a unit does not have a tournament experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 11:26pm On Jun 16, 2018
Icon4s:


Did Iceland not play in Euro 2016?Even reaching the Quarter finals.

Which tournament has this Rohr assembled team played?

Bros, I'm talking about WC and not Euro.

The WC is a totally different affair
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:26pm On Jun 16, 2018
goldfish80:

Keshi's team played Afcon and confed cup. Remember guys like Osaze and Emenike were in that team.

Good, oya tell me, how many of Keshi's afcon winning squad made it to Brazil 2014?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:26pm On Jun 16, 2018
Martz101:


moses was our best player today, how do you watch your own football
hope it has down on you...that rohr is a very smart coach....?
sometimes you guys think every light skin person is in the calibre of being a god and all knowing....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:26pm On Jun 16, 2018
Firstly I will call out Rohr.

Rohr did make some silly decisions.

After we fell a goal down, you know we needed goals and you had a goalscorer on the bench in Iheanacho. Why wait till we conceded a second off an Ekong error before doing the needful. We needed more movements upfront... We needed a player who can shoot even with a half chance. Nacho came in and did more in those 20mins than what Ighalo offered throughout the time he was on.

To be fair, Ighalo did make some nice touches in the first half but mehn... He didn't threaten enough. We needed more menaching movement. Nacho came on and alongside Musa we saw some better urgency. Even Etebo at a point started outshining Odogwu Mikel.



To the errors....

1. Yes, Etebo cause us an own goal but it was really an unlucky event. It was hard on the young man. He was one of our best players on the pitch today and did almost everything right save for that costly error which was not deliberate.

How did it happen? He left the post he was supposed to guard and went in early to try stop a mandzukic header that was already going wide off the mark. If only he had been slow to react... But how was he to do that? What if he didn't react and the header went in... Won't we all still be calling him out for not charging his man down?? See? So I won't blame Etebo much coz he put in a string shift in midfield today and gets my nod to keep benching Onazi.

We should try clearing those aerial balls at first sight... And not allowing it to cause mayhem which can lead to mistakes within the 18 yard box. Balogun, Ekong and Mikel even Ndidi should be first to those aerials from set pieces with also about two of them super alert for second balls after first aerial challenges.

Set pieces was our biggest undoing today again but I saw a few improvements to have hope. But mehn... Iceland are set piece and long throw kings too... We will face hell on Wednesday trust me... A hell we must try walk out if unscathed. But I still stand by this team. It is not over yet.


2. The fear of conceding another set piece goal made Ekong wrestle Mandzukic to the ground and sadly the ref spotted it and viola, that was the moment we lost the game.
Ekong knew that he should have done better. It is sad. The boys matched the Croatians but were undone by two errors which killed off our chances... We cannot afford any more of those against the Might of the Vikings

It was always gonna be hard coming back against the Croatians from 2 goals down. This is a game we could have drawn or even won but that second goal killed our changes big time.
Just minutes before that second goal I was desperately hoping Rohr brings in an Ebuehi for Shehu, and Iheanacho for Ighalo. Etebo was still ballling and Mikel and Ndidi still gave us a fighting chance in midfield. We needed those changes to push our adventure further and try nick that goal to get back on level terms but lo and behold, it was not to be until another error buried us for good.
Nacho came in immediately after that goal went in but it was already too late. Etebo kept fighting... His driving runs, skills and ball winning saw us win more freekicks in midfield but we needed that killer touch upfront... Nacho did spark some fires upfront a bit with Musa but it was already too late.

I hope Rohr understands that with two games left, now is the time for rugged and brave decisions to salvage our World cup. We have the players to thrive in a formation that can hurt teams but our conservative approach by accomodatijg Ighalo's goal drought and Shehu's non-adventurous style is seriously holding us back. We need our very best... Not our most capped players in the WCQs... Our very best to get the job done is what we need.






[b]At least Rohr was brave enough on this one count to bench Onazi... But Rohr should have taken his bravery further by also realising that an Attack being led by Ighalo won't yield much goals compared to a twin attack led by both Nacho and Iwobi... See how quiet Iwobi was in the game save for a few moments he got on the ball and had his goalbound shot blocked. Iwobi didn't show up today as he did against England and Czech and we needed that Monster Iwobi version. Maybe the occasion overwhelmed him a bit.. His first world cup game but mehn.. Those Icelandic Norse lords didn't give a sh*t and gave their all. It will be hard against them... Really really hard. That is a tougher game than the Argentina game.
Also, Rohr should have gone with an Ebuehi but started Shehu. Now Shehu put in a decent shift but offensively he was as flat as a concrete floor. On few occasions when he joined the attack to offer us outlets of penetration, he was not adventurous enough. On two occasions he could have easily crossed or ran into the right channel as an overlapping fullback will do, he hesisaltated and chose to turn and pass... He was scared to cross and be adventurous. YOU DON'T WIN WC GAMES NY BEING TOO CAREFUL ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE TIMES FOR MAD ADVENTURE. I need Ebuehi in this team. We need results... No more time to honor or play loyalty or longevity. This is the time to honor and play THE BEST and MOST GOALS-ORIENTED EFFECTIVE Talents FOR EACH ROLE.
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I will surely tip us to cause another twist in this group against Iceland but we (Rohr actually) must be brave in our selections and be ready to stand up against those giants called the Vikings and their defensive DOOR (Halldorsson).

I could say so much but fact is we have lost and it is time to move on to the next game. Whinning and lamenting for so long is for wimps.... We don't have much time. We must rise from this. After all, we are not out just yet. Our destiny in Russia still rests in our hands.


#SoarSuperEagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bunique: 11:27pm On Jun 16, 2018
Rohr has done well for us let's not forget. we did very well aside the errors we made. we only need to build from here, i would say we retain Rohr and let him continue the building of the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:27pm On Jun 16, 2018
Hahaha u don enter Farrah market.
Mujtahida:

Noooo I have not given up. Not at all. My problem is that the team lacks believe in itself. Without faith in themselves no tactics will help them.

Farah the falcon don predict am jare. Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:27pm On Jun 16, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
We can still qualify in my mind. I expected this loss although I would never openly accept defeat. Croatia is the best team is a our group and I am sure they can at least draw Argentina. Our destiny is still in our hands. We must still believe in our boys they didn't lose talent they must still be supported.
We believe in them. How do we get them to believe in themselves? How?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:28pm On Jun 16, 2018
Icon4s:


Did Iceland not play in Euro 2016?Even reaching the Quarter finals.

Which tournament has this Rohr assembled team played?

Alright Euro is a big tourney, so what experience had Iceland before that Euro yet they did so well?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:28pm On Jun 16, 2018
I really hope against that as a fan. But as an analyst, I think Croatia can get a point off Argentina. They have the better midfield than the Argentines and a better defence.

The Argentine defence is wack.

Mujtahida:

Argentina will win this yeye Croatia that we just played.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:28pm On Jun 16, 2018
Icon4s:


That is the tournament experience I am talking about.

This Rohr's team as a unit does not have a tournament experience.
please stop trying to create excuses for that rohr ineptitude and cluelessness...
you have no point to start lingering....on..
so because we have not been assembled to play any tourney prior now is a justification for the team loss tonight?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:28pm On Jun 16, 2018
Henceforth,no more pics from camp update


Aw many goals scored, assist created


No more formation display by peeps here again grin grin till further notice


We don too deceive, over hype dis team from page 0-4120,e don' do abeg grin grin grin


Cc..tbaba1234

TheSupernerd and all oda nairaland tactical coaches grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:29pm On Jun 16, 2018
The bigger reality is this:

Nigeria is still in the world cup. We are not out just yet. This is football.


Sportilitica:

Haaaaaa!!!!!. Are you really serious. Let's face reality, there is something wrong somewhere that we don't know about for now. But deep within us we know we are out. We need to stop hoping and start doing something about our situation. There are issues with this team. Big issues!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:29pm On Jun 16, 2018
ChrisKels:


So how many tourneys did Keshi's team play? How many did panama of 2014 play? How many did Algeria of 2014 play?

My man u no get yarns

Keshi's team played 2013 AFCON and Confederations Cup.

Which Panama are you talking about? A debutante for this WC?

Did Algeria not part in AFCON before the WC?

This team under Rohr is taking part in its first tournament. It is not the sole reason we lost but it is also a factor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:29pm On Jun 16, 2018
Joebie:
Hahaha u don enter Farrah market.
Hahahaha hahahaha. Omo make we laugh jare. But Joebie national team football is the thin thread tieing me to football. The game is boring to me. It's like I've outgrown football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:30pm On Jun 16, 2018
angry

Kai...

Bunique:
Rohr has done well for us let's not forget. we did very well aside the errors we made. we only need to build from here, i would say we retain Rohr and let him continue the building of the team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:30pm On Jun 16, 2018
Icon4s:


Why would you start Omeruo ahead of Ekong?

Omerou is better in the air, especially against set pieces

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:31pm On Jun 16, 2018
Me sef follow. At least we still get Golden Eaglets when we dey use take comfort ourselves from time to time.

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha. Omo make we laugh jare. But Joebie national team football is the thin thread tieing me to football. The game is boring to me. It's like I've outgrown football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:31pm On Jun 16, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Firstly I will call out Rohr.

Rohr did make some silly decisions.

After we fell a goal down, you know we needed goals and you had a goalscorer on the bench in Iheanacho. Why wait till we conceded a second off an Ekong error before doing the needful. We needed more movements upfront... We needed a player who can shoot even with a half chance. Nacho came in and did more in those 20mins than what Ighalo offered throughout the time he was on.

To be fair, Ighalo did make some nice touches in the first half but mehn... He didn't threaten enough. We needed more menaching movement. Nacho came on and alongside Musa we saw some better urgency. Even Etebo at a point started outshining Odogwu Mikel.



To the errors....

1. Yes, Etebo cause us an own goal but it was really an unlucky event. It was hard on the young man. He was one of our best players on the pitch today and did almost everything right save for that costly error which was not deliberate.

How did it happen? He left the post he was supposed to guard and went in early to try stop a mandzukic header that was already going wide off the mark. If only he had been slow to react... But how was he to do that? What if he didn't react and the header went in... Won't we all still be calling him out for not charging his man down?? See? So I won't blame Etebo much coz he put in a string shift in midfield today and gets my nod to keep benching Onazi.

We should try clearing those aerial balls at first sight... And not allowing it to cause mayhem which can lead to mistakes within the 18 yard box. Balogun, Ekong and Mikel even Ndidi should be first to those aerials from set pieces with also about two of them super alert for second balls after first aerial challenges.

Set pieces was our biggest undoing today again but I saw a few improvements to have hope. But mehn... Iceland are set piece and long throw kings too... We will face hell on Wednesday trust me... A hell we must try walk out if unscathed. But I still stand by this team. It is not over yet.


2. The fear of conceding another set piece goal made Ekong wrestle Mandzukic to the ground and sadly the ref spotted it and viola, that was the moment we lost the game.
Ekong knew that he should have done better. It is sad. The boys matched the Croatians but were undone by two errors which killed off our chances... We cannot afford any more of those against the Might of the Vikings

It was always gonna be hard coming back against the Croatians from 2 goals down. This is a game we could have drawn or even won but that second goal killed our changes big time.
Just minutes before that second goal I was desperately hoping Rohr brings in an Ebuehi for Shehu, and Iheanacho for Ighalo. Etebo was still ballling and Mikel and Ndidi still gave us a fighting chance in midfield. We needed those changes to push our adventure further and try nick that goal to get back on level terms but lo and behold, it was not to be until another error buried us for good.
Nacho came in immediately after that goal went in but it was already too late. Etebo kept fighting... His driving runs, skills and ball winning saw us win more freekicks in midfield but we needed that killer touch upfront... Nacho did spark some fires upfront a bit with Musa but it was already too late.

I hope Rohr understands that with two games left, now is the time for rugged and brave decisions to salvage our World cup. We have the players to thrive in a formation that can hurt teams but our conservative approach by accomodatijg Ighalo's goal drought and Shehu's non-adventurous style is seriously holding us back. We need our very best... Not our most capped players in the WCQs... Our very best to get the job done is what we need.






[b]At least Rohr was brave enough on this one count to bench Onazi... But Rohr should have taken his bravery further by also realising that an Attack being led by Ighalo won't yield much goals compared to a twin attack led by both Nacho and Iwobi... See how quiet Iwobi was in the game save for a few moments he got on the ball and had his goalbound shot blocked. Iwobi didn't show up today as he did against England and Czech and we needed that Monster Iwobi version. Maybe the occasion overwhelmed him a bit.. His first world cup game but mehn.. Those Icelandic Norse lords didn't give a sh*t and gave their all. It will be hard against them... Really really hard. That is a tougher game than the Argentina game.

Also, Rohr should have gone with an Ebuehi but started Shehu. Now Shehu put in a decent shift but offensively he was as flat as a concrete floor. On few occasions when he joined the attack to offer us outlets of penetration, he was not adventurous enough. On two occasions he could have easily crossed or ran into the right channel as an overlapping fullback will do, he hesisaltated and chose to turn and pass... He was scared to cross and be adventurous. YOU DON'T WIN WC GAMES NY BEING TOO CAREFUL ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE TIMES FOR MAD ADVENTURE. I need Ebuehi in this team. We need results... No more time to honor or play loyalty or longevity. This is the time to honor and play THE BEST and MOST GOALS-ORIENTED EFFECTIVE Talents FOR EACH ROLE.
[/b]


I will surely tip us to cause another twist in this group against Iceland but we (Rohr actually) must be brave in our selections and be ready to stand up against those giants called the Vikings and their defensive DOOR (Halldorsson).

I could say so much but fact is we have lost and it is time to move on to the next game. Whinning and lamenting for so long is for wimps.... We don't have much time. We must rise from this. After all, we are not out just yet. Our destiny in Russia still rests in our hands.


#SoarSuperEagles
my brother take it from me...
rohr killed this team....he is definitely not a smart coach.....
very conservative...watch him repeat same mistakes against Iceland and Argentina

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:32pm On Jun 16, 2018
ChrisKels:


Good, oya tell me, how many of Keshi's afcon winning squad made it to Brazil 2014?
Much more than the number that started today.
We are talking of a staring line up of Emenike, Osaze and Musa, a midfield of Onazi and Mikel, Yobo and Omerua, Enyeama and Efe Ambrose. Also add Victor Moses.
Can you compare their experience with Ekongs, Baloguns, Idowus, Shehus, Iwobis and Ighalos, plus Uzoho.
The difference is clear Bro, except we want to play the ostrich as usual.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:32pm On Jun 16, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


So gawking at the first goal as it went in was not a mistake.

U know nothing about the goal keeping profession. He was moving to catch the ball but suddenly Etebo diverted it to the opposite direction and u wanna blame him?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:33pm On Jun 16, 2018
True, this is the new generation's first major tournament as a team. It is indeed a factor but I won't use that to say "Okay then, let us lose all games and come home... It was our first major tournament after all and it is a heavy big baptism for us"....

No way! This team have it in them to fight and fight they must.



Icon4s:


Keshi's team played 2013 AFCON and Confederations Cup.

Which Panama are you talking about? A debutante for this WC?

Did Algeria not part in AFCON before the WC?

This team under Rohr is taking part in its first tournament. It is not the sole reason we lost but it is also a factor.

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