goldfish80:

The report clearly stated "in the ethnic group observed" which didn't include sub Saharan African. Since that time, 4 Ghanaian 15/16yr old boys have failed the test. Even a USA born 15yr old Nigerian boy have failed the test. Where does this peg your 0.9% near perfect claims?

goldfish80:

LOL.. They told us Mbappe will be benched at Man city just like Kelechi ... Nothing person never hear for this thread.

goldfish80:

The report clearly stated "in the ethnic group observed" which didn't include sub Saharan African. Since that time, 4 Ghanaian 15/16yr old boys have failed the test. Even a USA born 15yr old Nigerian boy have failed the test. Where does this peg your 0.9% near perfect claims?

TheGoodJoe:


Accuracy of overage players not passing the test. That is the point.

TheGoodJoe:


We are more concerned with overage players passing the test. That is what sparked the debate and to a very high degree, we are yet to witness claims of overage players passing it. So talking about players of 14/15/16 failing the test proves the strictness of the process and emphasises it.

TheGoodJoe:


Do you think Mbappe will keep Aguero on the bench? I doubt. Gabriel Jesus is also debatable when you keep in mind Guardiola saying Gabriel Jesus is the best when it comes to an attacker defending.

So far I am impressed and I see Mbappe improving. However it is deceptive to use his current form to rate the yardstick of his first game against Manchester City.

Finally, I will still not rate him as good as a young Ronaldo De Lima. Keep in mind, by this age, De Lima was clearly the best player in the World.

Finito.

goldfish80:

LOL.. They told us Mbappe will be benched at Man city just like Kelechi ... Nothing person never hear for this thread.

goldfish80:

LOL..

goldfish80:


The current Australian Federal Police practice of using X-rays of the hand/wrist to assess the age of Indonesian crew members of boats bringing refugees to Australia is based on a method developed in the 1950s. The technique is outdated, inaccurate and raises ethical concerns.

If the crew members, who claim to be under 18, are found to be adults, they must face mandatory five-year jail terms under people smuggling laws.

Hand/wrist X-ray examination was designed as a tool to assess the general physical development of children rather than to determine chronological age, and its degree of error is unknown but likely to be quite large.

Biological variation in human development means that any assessment of age based on analysis of anatomical growth markers is only an estimate, and will inevitably contain a degree of error.

While there’s no foolproof way to determine the exact age of an individual without verified birth date documentation, there are better methods available.

The size of inherent error in determining age depends, in large measure, on the estimation methods used so it behoves the government to use better tools in what is a determination with very serious ramifications.

The inherent fallibility of hand/wrist x-rays
Hand/wrist X-rays rely on an anatomical atlas of standard hand/wrist X-rays taken of a group of 1000 middle-class American children from birth to nineteen years in the 1930s and 1940s

This atlas displays standard skeletal development at three-month intervals during the first year of life; six-month intervals from one to five years; and one year intervals thereafter, up to 19.

At no point does this technique claim to be able to determine chronological age; it was designed as a tool for health workers to better assess children’s skeletal development and overall growth.

Quite clearly, the major drawback when using this technique today is that individuals included in the atlas grew up on the other side of the world more than 60 years ago. The economic circumstances and general public health then aren’t comparable to what prevails now.

It’s clearly unlikely an American child in the 1940s developed at the same rate at which an Iraqi, Afghani, Indonesian or indeed an Australian child will develop today.

Even if the atlas accurately reflected current growth trends, it would still be of limited use in predicting chronological age.

The variability inherent in the model means that for a boy predicted to be 17 years old, there is a standard deviation of 15.4 months. This means that the boy’s age could have the possible range of 17 plus or minus two-and-a-half years. He could therefore, be aged anywhere from 14.5 to 19.5 years.

Plainly, if the question being asked is whether or not this person is an adult or still a minor, this method cannot possibly provide an accurate answer.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/bone-of-contention-can-wrist-x-rays-really-reveal-the-age-of-people-smugglers-2049

The above report was written by Richard Bassed, a forensic dentist and PhD student.
I urge you to do more research on this topic on your own. Don't be a one way army kind of guy

ChrisKels:
Neymar should be studying Mbappe because Mbappe is everything Neymar wishes to be.

Dude is class

goldfish80:


The current Australian Federal Police practice of using X-rays of the hand/wrist to assess the age of Indonesian crew members of boats bringing refugees to Australia is based on a method developed in the 1950s. The technique is outdated, inaccurate and raises ethical concerns.

If the crew members, who claim to be under 18, are found to be adults, they must face mandatory five-year jail terms under people smuggling laws.

Hand/wrist X-ray examination was designed as a tool to assess the general physical development of children rather than to determine chronological age, and its degree of error is unknown but likely to be quite large.

Biological variation in human development means that any assessment of age based on analysis of anatomical growth markers is only an estimate, and will inevitably contain a degree of error.

While there’s no foolproof way to determine the exact age of an individual without verified birth date documentation, there are better methods available.

The size of inherent error in determining age depends, in large measure, on the estimation methods used so it behoves the government to use better tools in what is a determination with very serious ramifications.

The inherent fallibility of hand/wrist x-rays
Hand/wrist X-rays rely on an anatomical atlas of standard hand/wrist X-rays taken of a group of 1000 middle-class American children from birth to nineteen years in the 1930s and 1940s

This atlas displays standard skeletal development at three-month intervals during the first year of life; six-month intervals from one to five years; and one year intervals thereafter, up to 19.

At no point does this technique claim to be able to determine chronological age; it was designed as a tool for health workers to better assess children’s skeletal development and overall growth.

Quite clearly, the major drawback when using this technique today is that individuals included in the atlas grew up on the other side of the world more than 60 years ago. The economic circumstances and general public health then aren’t comparable to what prevails now.

It’s clearly unlikely an American child in the 1940s developed at the same rate at which an Iraqi, Afghani, Indonesian or indeed an Australian child will develop today.

Even if the atlas accurately reflected current growth trends, it would still be of limited use in predicting chronological age.

The variability inherent in the model means that for a boy predicted to be 17 years old, there is a standard deviation of 15.4 months. This means that the boy’s age could have the possible range of 17 plus or minus two-and-a-half years. He could therefore, be aged anywhere from 14.5 to 19.5 years.

Plainly, if the question being asked is whether or not this person is an adult or still a minor, this method cannot possibly provide an accurate answer.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/bone-of-contention-can-wrist-x-rays-really-reveal-the-age-of-people-smugglers-2049

The above report was written by Richard Bassed, a forensic dentist and PhD student.
I urge you to do more research on this topic on your own. Don't be a one way army kind of guy

TheGoodJoe:


Nothing here disproves my point. So I wonder why you took the trouble posting it.

The variability inherent in the model means that for a boy predicted to be 17 years old, there is a standard deviation of 15.4 months. This means that the boy’s age could have the possible range of 17 plus or minus two-and-a-half years. He could therefore, be aged anywhere from 14.5 to 19.5 years.

tglobal:



In other words, those who pass the test cannot be more than 20? If that is the case there is no cause for alarm then

TheGoodJoe:


There are people like you who deliberately bury your head not to see the truth to make yourself feel good.

The point was simple. There was so much hype about Mbappe being as good as a young Ronaldo and some said he was better than Nacho.

Monaco was to play City and I said I would watch him in the game. In that game, Mbappe was not prolific, probably being a high profile match for a young man and also him playing the striking position in that game. I think Falcao was not fit for the game.

I hinged on his performance and said that from what I had seen, I was not convinced if he was worth the hype. I also made it very clear that I need to watch him more to make my verdict.

I wonder how I have to repeat the same thing over again and you fail to comprehend the point.

Using the current form to judge is also myopic because the young man has clearly improved. It is funny as if you are making it look like if he played this way in the game against City.

cc: elyte89

goldfish80:

Maybe you because you chose to over look this.

goldfish80:

Do you want me to post his stats against City? Lol
I remember very well there were about 4 of you who made that silly argument that Kelechi was better than him. If I start posting those comments, e no go end well oh.. Stop shaking this table.

TheGoodJoe:


How does this disprove my point. That is the estimate but we get 14,15 and 16 years old players failing the test and hardly get players above 17 passing it. Even though there is a margin of a possibility of those above passing it.

The explanation is so clear. There is no need clutching on any thing to try to sell a false point.

Like those myopic people who tried to make it look as if Uzoho had a child of seventeen years. It is clear people like that do not have an idea of the science of the MRI scan.

Finito.

goldfish80:

Do you want me to post his stats against City? Lol
I remember very well there were about 4 of you who made that silly argument that Kelechi was better than him. If I start posting those comments, e no go end well oh.. Stop shaking this table.

goldfish80:

A false point which proves that a 19.5 yr old has as much chance of failing the test as a 14.5yr old?
I thought you said only under age have been proved to fail the test.
Was this not your post?

goldfish80:

A false point which proves that a 19.5 yr old has as much chance of failing the test as a 14.5yr old?
I thought you said only under age have been proved to fail the test.
Was this not your post?
Do you know 86 Ghanaian boys were sampled and the result returned a failure rate of 46%? Lol

TheGoodJoe:


As I know you do not really know how to watch and make opinions about players performances without reading stats, let me make it easy for you.

Bernado Silva and Lemar were more explosive than Mbappe in that game.

goldfish80:

How do I convince an anonymous person over the internet without using stats? Your word against mine, like we are in elementary school? Lol
Lemar and Silva sold about 1/3 of Mbappe's transfer fee. That says it all... Lol

TheGoodJoe:


Can you show me reports of overage players proven to pass the test? Na wa for you. The point is so clear. Margin of error does not mean records show 19 year olds are passing the test.

The test is so strict that 14 year olds are reported to have failed but we hardly ever get criticism of overage passing.

Gerrit?

ChrisKels:
Neymar should be studying Mbappe because Mbappe is everything Neymar wishes to be.

Dude is class

goldfish80:


It can't be reported when an overage player passes the test. For instance, do you expect an Uzoho to come out and say "oh I'm over age and I passed the MRI test". Do you expect individuals to report on themselves?

goldfish80:
Mbappe plays like a 27yr old seasoned pro. Unbelievable how good he is at just 19.

Icon4s:


Person wey go run enter toilet go dey celebrate this night.

goldfish80:



Biological variation in human development means that any assessment of age based on analysis of anatomical growth markers is only an estimate, and will inevitably contain a degree of error.

TheGoodJoe:


How does Transfer fees equate to performance in a game? Na wa. The incoherence... ...

Please get a simple point. Stats does not tell everything.

I repeat, Bernardo Silva and Lemar were more explosive than Mbappe in that game.

goldfish80:


Coming from the same guy who claimed he didn't watch the game. Lol
You're such a piece of work. Hahah

goldfish80:


Coming from the same guy who claimed he didn't watch the game. Lol
You're such a piece of work. Hahah