Dranoid:


Wow, how was your CUSAS though?

UgwuKristian:
Let them come to UNN, Most of the 1st class graduates won't see 2², � .

hustla:


This is POVERTY MENTALITY
Nigerians love and think you have to suffer head before you get anything in life

I went to this same CU and there has been only 1 first class graduate from the Department of Mass Communication till date (I'm not sure that has changed)

How can u easily have a first class in public universities when

-Cultists will chase you up and down
-No conducive environment, hostels look like where they rear Pigs
-Classes are meh, 200 students in a hall that's supposed to accommodate 90 students
-Lecturers are interested in sleeping with students or selling textbooks. Some don't even Come to class
- You can not walk up to your HOD /VC to have a discussion
- Lecturers see themselves as God
- Lecturers use the same outdated material year in year out

If you have ever left Naija, you'll see how real education is supposed to look like and you'll see how far Covenant University has Come.

During My IT while I was in 200 Level, I was assigned to Hnd Polytechnic students to help in correcting their English before it goes on air (news articles).. Those students made me thank my stars for the school I went to.

Quote me if I have lied anywhere in my Reply

deewhydoski:

Chemistry doesn't hard for me try to understand that... You didnt study the course so I won't argue with u, is like say someone did 70 courses and had 69 A's and 1B, that can only happen in waec.....oga forget that thing it can only happen in private universities and don't forget say we did some crazy practicals. If the guy come to unilorin am very sure that he will make first class but that 4.99 is not fucking possible.

SpoiltVirgin:
35. Jamb was excellent too. Made English and Maths in WAEC but didn't make Chemistry. Waiting for NECO. Already changed my course tho. But why do I even need chemistry for computer engineering? I've changed it tho.

LordIsaac:

Sir, just leave them....it can only happen in private schools. Let them visit chem dept here in Unijos....

hustla:


Do it in Asia, you'll never regret it
Did some courses in India, na make them cut my head put book inside remain

Lecturers were offering to come to your house and stay back after class just to make sure you understand everything

Nigeria no be country I swear, we are worse than stagnant

TruthinAction:
The best way to validate this first class degree is to establish professional schools like the School of Law which should be made compulsory for all graduants before they can seek for gainful employment. This will reveal the calibers of graduates these schools are turning out. You can have first class in one school and not even make second class upper in another school in the same field of study.

We should have school of Engineering.
Medical School.
etc.

to properly test these graduants and brush them up before releasing them to the labour market.

HigherEd:
We had a 15% First class turnout! But I believe CU would have done better If they had implemented the third semester system which was initially proposed by the former VC. This would have ensured that people with failed courses could retake the courses during holidays(summer) rather than piling failed courses for people during new sessions.

CU should understand that students who failed during normal semesters are usually too demoralized to learn anything in carryover classes. Plus this carryover classes, especially the likes of CHM212(physical chemistry) are usually overbloated with carryover students that it makes learning uncomfortable for everyone.

Lastly on piling carryovers. The consequences of pilling carryovers in a public uni might be minute and limited but in a private school it is devastating, especially to middle class families who have to dole out an extra 1 million naira.

And for anyone who thinks that CU is producing too much First class degrees please chew on this. There is no telling what people can do if giving the right environment to succeed. And yes some of the numerous people who make First Class degrees in UK universities may find it difficult to replicate in OAU. But that doesn't make OAU better than Lancaster or University Of Edinburgh, but a reflection of a choking system in the Nigerian University System which prioritises difficulty and stress over learning.

Codetemplar

CChillz:
Its not about graduating first class. How many of this first class graduate can boast of employment after graduation and service? How many of them will be awarded with jobs, or money to start up a business? Only about 5% may be able to boast abou jobs after their service year, but people like ex BBnaija housemates that promoted porn on national TV will be getting millions and awarded contracts. What's the way forward in this our "beloved Nigeria"?

jedisco:


In a progressive country, such place would not be more than a primary school. The role of a university/lecturer is not to brag about their failure rate but rather get fulfilment in producing better members of the society.

What's even more annoying are the young students who brag about such poor records rather than being angry about it and asking for a change. Is it Stockholm syndrome or what?

LordIsaac:

Sir, just leave them....it can only happen in private schools. Let them visit chem dept here in Unijos....

deewhydoski:

Nice one bro.....am now staying in Jos.
I'm planning to start my Msc next year in unijos

jedisco:


If you can afford it, go for a masters in Europe or North America. You would see what functional and result based education is like.

I used to brag about how difficult my school was until I started taking foreign exams. That was when I saw what good education is

deewhydoski:

Chemistry doesn't hard for me try to understand that... You didnt study the course so I won't argue with u, is like say someone did 70 courses and had 69 A's and 1B, that can only happen in waec.....oga forget that thing it can only happen in private universities and don't forget say we did some crazy practicals. If the guy come to unilorin am very sure that he will make first class but that 4.99 is not fucking possible.

afobam:
you're not sure bro. You only hazard a guess!

darkid1:
Guess who Issa new graduate today? Meee...

Go CU!

Youngjohnosas:
there is nothing we can do about it life goes on, I wouldn't stereotype my life to a university degree and there and are some things u probably cannot change.. its obvious they ave an ulterior motive and are dangerous as well u fight them u pay d supreme Price.. this is Nigeria.

jedisco:


And that is why ur unijos is nothing more than a glorified secondary school who has continually retrogressed.
Can you point to any leading worldwide research or breakthrough conducted by your "difficult unijos"? You're here comparing a stagnant entity with an institution who have Nobel laureates as lecturers

Even the government recently admitted that the future of tertiary education in Nigeria lies with private schools. If care is not taken, very soon sending your child to a public university would be like sending him to an LEA school.
BTW, just so you know, I am a product of a Top Federal University

HigherEd:
Yeah I think it is better for you to be on the safe side. What was your second choice university? And
What course did you change to in CU?

deewhydoski:

Sure about what?

afobam:
him making First Class in ilorin.

Allstrasse:
Sadly, backwardness of the contemporary Nigerian graduate is captured in many of the posts here.

A most disappointing debacle. That some people actually have the temerity to suggest that these excellent students would do lesser in the seedy,demotivated and puerile environments that our public universities have become is really sad. With the benefit of having been on graduate recruitment panels I make bold to state here and unequivocally so that the graduates of Covenant University are indeed what they are; Eagles and can only soar higher.

I have had the singular privilege of employing an Industrial Chemistry graduate of this institution who spent just one year with our client before leaving for further studies in Sweden and I can testify till today that the man is still nostalgic about the experience......and she only had a 2.2.

I may also add that some years back, we had a brief from one the major banks in this country to recruit entry level graduates. Apart from the official correspondence from the HR department I still have a private email sent to me by the MD of that bank requesting that we should employ ALL the applicants from Covenant and Babcock Universities irrespective of their disciplines and grade of pass.

Truth be said, some of the private universities have brought about a paradigm shift. As it stands now, evidences abound that the standard bearers in tertiary education are going to be the private universities. It shouldn't come as a surprise though as private capital and resources has already redefined the standards in secondary education.

By the way, is there any Nairalander here who has his children in a public primary or post primary school[i] by choice?[/i]

LordIsaac:

Forget it...just like Nigerians do better outside Nigeria, anybody can do better in your private school. I am only of the opinion that, you can never compare yourself with someone who goes through the rigours of school in a public University and still excels, albeit with a 2:1. Dare me and take up a session over here, I'm sure you'd end up dropping out. Listen to the voice of logic !

LordIsaac:

Forget it...just like Nigerians do better outside Nigeria, anybody can do better in your private school. I am only of the opinion that, you can never compare yourself with someone who goes through the rigours of school in a public University and still excels, albeit with a 2:1. Dare me and take up a session over here, I'm sure you'd end up dropping out. Listen to the voice of logic !

asuustrike2009:

Seriously!

jedisco:


Something can be done and already some public universities are changing although slowly e.g UI. The success of CU and the fact that the top people in the society now overlook them and send their wards to CU are making them see that there's no benefit holding back what someone merits or making the environment unconducive.
It only put their graduates at a disadvantage when compared to the outside world. The world is now a global village.

jedisco:


You're funny. Seems you didn't read my post fully.
Like I said, I'm a product of a top rated federal university and read one of the most competitive and regulated courses in a region of the country known for its educational prowess. So if there was a bragging right associated with that, I'm well qualified

Like I mentioned earlier, I used to brag about the so called difficulty of state owned higher institutions until I got myself exposed to how stuff works in a progressive society. I then saw the folly in my previous belief. I still remember one of my lecturers bragging that he cannot set an mcq and more than 10% would get upto 50%. In a functional system, that would have been his last day as a lecturer. But guess what, he's a "top" professor in Nigeria. Lecturers should want their students to pass and succeed brilliantly. The sad thing is nat most of the sadistic lecturers are hardly available to teach.
The fact is that the system present in most public institutions make them unfit to be called universities in the first place. That a university like CU is embracing the right order puts it ahead of virtually all public universities.

It's just like the Cameroonian FA and National team claiming to be better than their French counterparts because Mbape couldn't make the Cameroonian team (as his father didn't have the money to pay for bribes) but where as made the French team with minimal effort. A chaotic system would always be beneath a system that does things right.

I guess you're still an undergraduate and really feel pained reading you post. You should read up Stockholm syndrome and see how it applies to you.
There is no glory in backwardness