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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:45pm On Jul 23, 2018
afrodoc2:


Bayern sef no want am, not on their bench and not in their boardroom.

Absolute football great, but like has been alluded to earlier he is yesterday's man. Ozil was either politically and socially tone deaf or just plain naive.

And at the root of all this is not race or religion, but the power dynamic between Putin and the West compared to that between Erdogan and the West.

This is the main point, Anytime a famous player makes a bone headed decision the first point is to call racism just like Yaya Toure did a few weeks ago

If you dont want political or religious backlash stay out of controversial political and religious issues. Emre Can was also invited and he stylishly declined

Germany and Turkey have political issues, Ozil is Turkish-German, representing Germany, wearing German jersey and posing with a Turkish ruler calling him "My president"

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by neezar: 5:00pm On Jul 23, 2018
diggz:

Thank God..

How d nurses?
which nurses u dey talk about

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 5:05pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


I dont understand how Ozil was tone deaf.

Ozil is a turk.

Erdogan was in London to visit the queen and theresa may.

Both of them took pictures with him.

No outrage.

Ozil took pictures with a fellow Turk - wahala

President of German FA didnt even want to take him to WC.

Uli Hoenness came out after the WC and said this:

For me Mesut Özil has been a poor excuse for a footballer for years,” he said. “He should ask himself when he last won a tackle

Ozil? Winning Tackle?

Ozil?!

To me, it speaks volumes about the institutional racism in Germany.

Meanwhile Mattahus a German legen is cavorting with Putin - No noise
ozil only gave edrogan arsenal jersey..It's was actually gundogan that captioned the My president tag
I guess ozil was the scape goat for the overall poor performance. That old fool hoe nness can't explain why hummels was missing chances that ozil created
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 5:16pm On Jul 23, 2018
sod09:
ozil only gave edrogan arsenal jersey..It's was actually gundogan that captioned the My president tag
I guess ozil was the scape goat for the overall poor performance. That old fool hoe nness can't explain why hummels was missing chances that ozil created
You can imagine.

Meanwhile Dayo has been shouting here that Ozil is the one that wrote 'my President'

So all he did was take a picture.

Don't mind Hoeness.

He won't talk about how useless Muller was at the world cup. instead he's complaining Ozil of all people does not tackle.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 5:22pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:

You can imagine.

Meanwhile Dayo has been shouting here that Ozil is the one that wrote 'my President'

So all he did was take a picture.

Don't mind Hoeness.

He won't talk about how useless Muller was at the world cup. instead he's complaining Ozil of all people does not tackle.
and why is no one blaming gundogan? He was also involved
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 5:35pm On Jul 23, 2018
laumdeuter….. dem say you be hypocrite cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 5:35pm On Jul 23, 2018
neezar:

which nurses u dey talk about


d nurses wey u dey kolobi... grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:39pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
You can imagine.
Meanwhile Dayo has been shouting here that Ozil is the one that wrote 'my President'
So all he did was take a picture.
Don't mind Hoeness.
He won't talk about how useless Muller was at the world cup. instead he's complaining Ozil of all people does not tackle.

Gundogan was equally criticized and actually whistled while on the field in Berlin, He didnt play much and he has not come out to make the type of statement Ozil made,

If Muller comes out to say his criticism of his performances were based on the fact that they dont like him, then you can expect Ulli to blast him too

Too often when people say you are not doing a good job, the first thing people default to is that its racism just like Yaya Toure claimed racism was why him at 35yrs isnt playing regular football

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On Jul 23, 2018
sod09:
and why is no one blaming gundogan? He was also involved

Gundogan is also blamed attacked and was actually whistled on the field, Let Gundogan also come out and release his own retirement and make his allegations then you will see the response

Hoeness simply told Ozil that he has been shit for many years and shouldnt use the picture to cover his mediocrity, In that same time too, I know many Arsenal fans who have criticized Ozil for being non challant and uncaring

Is it also because Arsenal fans were racists and islamophobe?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 5:47pm On Jul 23, 2018
neezar:

I am Bro

The day I wanted 2 be baptised.....The bus left me
So, how are you a Christian without being baptized?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:54pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


When I told roland17 that it was islamophobia that was driving the vitriol aimed at Ozil, he thought i was being mischievous.

This is Lotthar Matthaus with Public Enemy number 1 as far as the west is concerned



Zero outrage

If you look closely, you would also observe Rio Ferdinand and the great P. Schmeichel in the picture. I would love to imagine that they all exchanged pleasantries and handshakes with president Putin and none of them disrespected the office of their country or their country of citizenship. This has nothing to do with Islamophobia because that narrative is cheap and an easy way out for Ozil to defend himself.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 5:56pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:

You can imagine.

Meanwhile Dayo has been shouting here that Ozil is the one that wrote 'my President'

So all he did was take a picture.

Don't mind Hoeness.

He won't talk about how useless Muller was at the world cup. instead he's complaining Ozil of all people does not tackle.
Hoeness ’ response to Mesut Ozil’s international retirement is nothing short of
horrifying. What was the need?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 5:56pm On Jul 23, 2018
raumdeuter:


I disagree with this post. It has nothing to do with Islamophobia, it has more to do with a footballer inserting himself into a political tensed conversation

A president who is at odds with the Nation you represent and you think its the right thing to meet him and present him as "My President". This will be like an Iraqi-American Athlete meeting Saddam in 2003 and presenting him as "My president" or a Russian-American athlete meeting Breshnev in 1979 and presenting him with a jersey of "My president"

Ozil could have met Erdogan in 2010 and nothing would be made of it, Boateng today can meet the president of Ghana and nothing would be made of it, Khedira can meet the Tunisian president and nothing will happen

Ozil as a footballer involved himself in a political standoff, Emre Can was also invited and declined the invite, Its called using common sense

Religion and Politics evoke sentiments and if you are not trying to put yourself in the middle of it as a public figure you will be wise to avoid all such

Excellent post Dayo.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:04pm On Jul 23, 2018
sod09:
and why is no one blaming gundogan? He was also involved

Baba,

You know I am an ardent Gunner to the bone, I follow my team religiously but I have no problem telling anyone that cares to listen that Ozil is only trying to divert and distort the narrative regarding his retirement and the backlash. While Ozil is not the major reason why Germany failed as that is at the door steps of the German FA and J. Low, Ozil was poor even before the world cup. Remember a section of Arsenal fans criticized him for choosing games he wants to play in after we were eliminated from the Europa? There are other German players who practice Islam in the German national team so Ozil, off the top of my head I can mention Khedira, E. Can (who I think will get more opportunities) and Gundagon, so his camp can stop that nonsense.

Here is my question, why did Ozil keep quiet until after a shambolic world cup? If he did not write it, why did he not distance himself from the comment or the idea behind the comment? This is very simple.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:05pm On Jul 23, 2018
Roland17:


If you look closely, you would also observe Rio Ferdinand and the great P. Schmeichel in the picture. I would love to imagine that they all exchanged pleasantries and handshakes with president Putin and none of them disrespected the office of their country or their country of citizenship. This has nothing to do with Islamophobia because that narrative is cheap and an easy way out for Ozil to defend himself.
what about xhaka and shakiri that used Switzerland the country they represent to cause a bad blood against Serbia.
What they did is more of politics compare to ozil
I think the Germans were looking for scapegoat for the poor outing and ozil was unfairly judged, everyone knows he's lazy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 6:05pm On Jul 23, 2018
Melvyn11:

Hoeness ’ response to Mesut Ozil’s international retirement is nothing short of
horrifying. What was the need?



Is Hoeness not the ex-convict. A man that defrauded his own country. Ozil is a
better German than him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:07pm On Jul 23, 2018
Roland17:


Baba,

You know I am an ardent Gunner to the bone, I follow my team religiously but I have no problem telling anyone that cares to listen that Ozil is only trying to divert and distort the narrative regarding his retirement and the backlash. While Ozil is not the major reason why Germany failed as that is at the door steps of the German FA and J. Low, Ozil was poor even before the world cup. Remember a section of Arsenal fans criticized him for choosing games he wants to play in after we were eliminated from the Europa? There are other German players who practice Islam in the German national team so Ozil and his camp can stop that nonsense.

Here is the issue, why did Ozil keep quiet until after a shambolic world cup? If he did not write it, why did he not distance himself from the comment or the idea behind the comment? This is very simple.
yeah that's true gundogan remove himself after a friendly match in which he was booed...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 6:08pm On Jul 23, 2018
Roland17:


If you look closely, you would also observe Rio Ferdinand and the great P. Schmeichel in the picture. I would love to imagine that they all exchanged pleasantries and handshakes with president Putin and none of them disrespected the office of their country or their country of citizenship. This has nothing to do with Islamophobia because that narrative is cheap and an easy way out for Ozil to defend himself.

And Ozil disrespected Germany how again?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neymar1095(m): 6:12pm On Jul 23, 2018
Melvyn11:

Hoeness ’ response to Mesut Ozil’s international retirement is nothing short of
horrifying. What was the need?
My friends sit down. Brutal and spot on from Uli Hoeness . No bs or propaganda, just straight to
the point.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 6:12pm On Jul 23, 2018
raumdeuter:


Gundogan is also blamed attacked and was actually whistled on the field, Let Gundogan also come out and release his own retirement and make his allegations then you will see the response

Hoeness simply told Ozil that he has been shit for many years and shouldnt use the picture to cover his mediocrity, In that same time too, I know many Arsenal fans who have criticized Ozil for being non challant and uncaring

Is it also because Arsenal fans were racists and islamophobe?



All Ozil did was take a picture, same as the German holding Putin's hand in the picture I posted.

Yet Roland17 can see that Ozil is disrespecting Germany while Matthaus is not.

In fact, Russia is embroiled in a diplomatic row with the UK as we speak, over the Novichok poisonings.

Somehow Roland17 says Rio Ferdinand is not disrespecting UK by being in the pics, but Ozil was disrespectful to Germany.

Yall niggas need Jesus

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:17pm On Jul 23, 2018
sod09:
what about xhaka and shakiri that used Switzerland the country they represent to cause a bad blood against Serbia.
What they did is more of politics compare to ozil
I think the Germans were looking for scapegoat for the poor outing and ozil was unfairly judged, everyone knows he's lazy

Naaaaa, every country is different and the values are different. Do you know the amount of backlash Xhaka and Shaqiri's caused especially knowing how volatile the situation is with the countries involved? Both players were fined heavily by FIFA and rightfully so, they also received stern warnings from their coach and the Swiss FA. Don't forget, Croatia fired their own assistant coach after they booked a ticket to the semi-finals for making a pro Ukrainian.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 6:18pm On Jul 23, 2018
Alice Weidel, co-leader of far-right Alternative für Deutschland, on Monday criticised Özil as “a typical example of the failed integration of far too many immigrants from Turkish Muslim cultural circles”.


Note the person that said this a currently serving German senator, but no, Ozil is playing the race card
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:27pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:




All Ozil did was take a picture, same as the German holding Putin's hand in the picture I posted.

Yet Roland17 can see that Ozil is disrespecting Germany while Matthaus is not.

In fact, Russia is embroiled in a diplomatic row with the UK as we speak, over the Novichok poisonings.

Somehow Roland17 says Rio Ferdinand is not disrespecting UK by being in the pics, but Ozil was disrespectful to Germany.

Yall niggas need Jesus

If he did not write or believe in the post and comment why has he not distanced himself from Gundogan's post? Would he denying his Turkish heritage by denouncing the ideology behind the comment "My President"? Is it also a co-incidence that Gunda shares similar Turkish heritage with Ozil? Maybe Ferdinand, Mathaus and Schmeichel share similar heritages, who knows, they may have Russian backgrounds.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neymar1095(m): 6:33pm On Jul 23, 2018
sod09:
ozil only gave edrogan arsenal jersey..It's was actually gundogan that captioned the My president tag
I guess ozil was the scape goat for the overall poor performance. That old fool hoe nness can't explain why hummels was missing chances that ozil created
This is as pathetic and ignorant a comment as Özil's
in his Tweet where he says that "My job is as a
football player, not as a politician, and a meeting
was not an endorsement of any policies.
He can't be so ignorant and foolish as to not
realise what kind of a message it sends out to the
world when someone of his fame and profile meets
Erdogan so warmly for a public press opportunity
shortly before the Turkish elections?!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:34pm On Jul 23, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
Alice Weidel, co-leader of far-right Alternative für Deutschland, on Monday criticised Özil as “a typical example of the failed integration of far too many immigrants from Turkish Muslim cultural circles”.

Note the person that said this a currently serving German senator, but no, Ozil is playing the race card

You quoted a far right politician as evidence? Like quoting the leader of KKK as evidence of US govt relationship on Black people or quoting Shekau as evidence of Nigerian govt attitude towards western education

If a player born in Germany schooled all his life in Germany but the time of Germany Turkish impasse chose to identify with Erdogan as "My president" If he didnt want the backlash then don't insert yourself into political and religious conversation cos they bring raw emotions in people

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:37pm On Jul 23, 2018
raumdeuter:


You quoted a far right politician as evidence? Like quoting the leader of KKK as evidence of US govt relationship on Black people or quoting Shekau as evidence of Nigerian govt attitude towards western education

If a player born in Germany schooled all his life in Germany but the time of Germany Turkish impasse chose to identify with Erdogan as "My president" If he didnt want the backlash then don't insert yourself into political and religious conversation cos they bring raw emotions in people



I concur...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:41pm On Jul 23, 2018
Skimpledawg:

So, how are you a Christian without being baptized?

no mind neezar…. him no b xtian
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 6:42pm On Jul 23, 2018
What is this

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 6:45pm On Jul 23, 2018
raumdeuter:


You quoted a far right politician as evidence? Like quoting the leader of KKK as evidence of US govt relationship on Black people or quoting Shekau as evidence of Nigerian govt attitude towards western education

If a player born in Germany schooled all his life in Germany but the time of Germany Turkish impasse chose to identify with Erdogan as "My president" If he didnt want the backlash then don't insert yourself into political and religious conversation cos they bring raw emotions in people


You definitely beat me to this comment because I was going to say exact thing. Germany is probably the most accommodating nation in Europe so this narrative by Ozil, his camp and apologists is ridiculous. My argument remains, if he did not write the comment, why did he fail to distance himself from such comment or the ideology behind that comment? Would he be denying Erdogan?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 6:53pm On Jul 23, 2018
Perth 0-1 Chelsea: What we learnt from Maurizio Sarri's first game in charge
Blues off to winning start under Italian
Last Updated: 23/07/18 4:31pm



Ross Barkley impressed during Chelsea's win over Perth

The Maurizio Sarri era at Chelsea began with a comfortable 1-0 win over Perth Glory on the west coast of Australia on Monday - but what did we learn from the Italian's first game in charge?
Pedro found the net just five minutes in to the friendly contest but, despite Chelsea's dominance for the remainder of the match, they were unable to find a second against the A-League side.
Here, we pick out some of the early signs of how Sarri's Chelsea are shaping up…

The return of 4-3-3
When Antonio Conte switched from a 4-3-3 to 3-4-3 early in his first campaign, it was heralded as the tactical change which put the Blues on course for the Premier League title. It was Conte's favoured formation and he set about drilling his team to play his style of football.

The system didn't click as effectively in season two - although an FA Cup win ensured there was more silverware - and new boss Sarri has wasted no time in refreshing Chelsea's set-up in his first match in charge, fielding a 4-3-3 in Perth. With full-backs Marcos Alonso and Davide Zappacosta in slightly deeper roles than their more familiar wing-back positions, the onus was on Chelsea's wide forwards to work the flanks and youngster Callum Hudson-Odoi caught the eye on the left, while Pedro enjoyed success drifting in off the right to support Alvaro Morata in the box.

Chelsea set out to play with a high tempo, with Ross Barkley and Cesc Fabregas conducting the play ahead of new signing Jorginho in the midfield trio during the first-half. While substitutions affected the flow in the second period, this felt like a distinctly different approach to performances last season under the more cautious Conte.

Callum Hudson-Odoi was a threat throughout the first half

Stationed on the left of the Blues' front three in the first-half, Hudson-Odoi proved to be a real handful for Perth's right-back Scott Neville, confidently running at his marker at every opportunity. He had almost instant success when he beat Neville and crossed for Pedro to volley in Chelsea's opener. The youngster had weaved his way into space again a few minutes later, but sent his cross deep when his team-mates had come to the near post, while he just over-hit a through ball for Pedro after leading a rapid counter-attack. A selection of tricks, flicks and dummies through the opening 45 underlined his confidence.

Off the ball, Hudson-Odoi looked to come in off the side-line and run in behind the Perth defence - on one occasion David Luiz almost sent him through on goal - while his pace will be a vital attribute down that flank. Sarri, who substituted him at the break, will have been encouraged.

David Luiz is back

Between a knee injury and falling out of favour, David Luiz played just 839 minutes of Premier League football last season. The indication from this opener in Australia was he is fit and ready to play a more important role this time around.

David Luiz missed much of last season with a knee problem
The Brazilian, who missed the World Cup, marshalled the Blues' largely untroubled backline alongside 17-year-old Ethan Ampadu and showed off some of the positive passing which previously persuaded Jose Mourinho to play him in central midfield.There was one reckless moment, when a rash and off-target challenge on Fabio Ferreira earned Luiz a yellow card, but the signs are the centre-back is back in contention for 2018/19.

Jorginho slots in on debut

Jorginho was an integral part of Sarri's Napoli and the £50m signing slotted straight into a holding role in Chelsea's midfield on Monday. Jorginho controlled Chelsea's tempo in the first 45 minutes....Dictator rather than destroyer, the Italian, who has been likened to Andrea Pirlo and made more passes than any other player in Europe's top leagues last season, shuttled the ball from Chelsea's defence to their more creative attackers.

Jorginho rarely strayed ahead of midfield partners Fabregas and Barkley in Perth, but was the central figure until his half-time substitution, instigating the Sarri style on the pitch.

Barkley makes his mark

Ross Barkley was considered one of the bargains of the January transfer window when Chelsea signed him for £15m from Everton. But come May, after form and fitness had limited him to just two Premier League appearances for his new club, Barkley's future at Chelsea was far from certain. Barkley excelled in an advanced position in the second period...… A new manager has given him a fresh start, though, and the 24-year-old looked desperate to seize his chance in Australia. After an encouraging first-half, Barkley became the Blues' main man after the break when he was pushed into a more advanced position.From one of his many surging forward runs he scuffed a shot against the post before twice seeing efforts blocked in the box. Throughout the match Barkley's passing looked sharp as he fed the ball through the Perth defence, handing Pedro, Morata and substitute Mario Pasalic the chance to try their luck.

He really should have capped the performance with a goal, poking wide after a smart turn in the area, but Barkley did more than enough to show Sarri he deserves opportunities this season...


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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jul 23, 2018
abeg this one that Jorginho is collecting passes from defenders and organizing play, how would he click with Kante?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:06pm On Jul 23, 2018
Afolabi6046:
abeg this one that Jorginho is collecting passes from defenders and organizing play, how would he click with Kante?
Kante and the third man will play slightly ahead of him. He'll play almost like a third midfielder. And he's no pusssy defensively too.

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